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darsy

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Nov 25, 2006, 2:47:54 PM11/25/06
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more musico recommendo

(not electronica this time)

Through The Window Pane - Guillemots

Voices of Animals and Men - Young Knives

Raise the Alarm - Sunshine Underground

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Brownz (Mobile)

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Nov 25, 2006, 3:23:06 PM11/25/06
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I like The Young Knives, seen them play at the Zodiac in Oxford.


Well.... I'm just off out to see Steaming Wolf Penis (1) at The Port Mahon
in Oxford.

(1) I have no idea, and am not quite sure what I've been talked into here
either .......


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darsy

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Nov 25, 2006, 3:34:42 PM11/25/06
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:23:06 GMT, "Brownz \(Mobile\)"
<someo...@microsoft.com> wrote:

>darsy wrote:

>> Voices of Animals and Men - Young Knives

>I like The Young Knives, seen them play at the Zodiac in Oxford.

you know, I haven't been to a proper gig in years and years. Or to a
club.

God, I'm old.

That said, provisionly I've booked my departments's Xmas do @
BarRumba.
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ogden

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Nov 26, 2006, 7:57:53 AM11/26/06
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darsy wrote:
>
> you know, I haven't been to a proper gig in years and years. Or to a
> club.
>
> God, I'm old.
>
> That said, provisionly I've booked my departments's Xmas do @
> BarRumba.

It doesn't matter where you go, the fact that it'll be a departmental
christmas do for a load of bank employees will automatically negate any
hipness inferred by the venue.

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darsy

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Nov 26, 2006, 8:03:35 AM11/26/06
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:57:53 +0000, ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:

>darsy wrote:
>>
>> you know, I haven't been to a proper gig in years and years. Or to a
>> club.
>>
>> God, I'm old.
>>
>> That said, provisionly I've booked my departments's Xmas do @
>> BarRumba.
>
>It doesn't matter where you go, the fact that it'll be a departmental
>christmas do for a load of bank employees will automatically negate any
>hipness inferred by the venue.

a) it's not an official company do &
b) I don't work for a bank[1]

[1] though you're closer than Kenyons insulting suggestion that I work
an insurance company.
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Champ

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Nov 26, 2006, 2:21:56 PM11/26/06
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"whatever"

You'll not be surprised to hear that I like Kasabian's debut album.
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Nov 26, 2006, 4:22:34 PM11/26/06
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In message <m9qjm2thhp0rtp293...@4ax.com>, Champ
<ne...@champ.org.uk> writes

>
>You'll not be surprised to hear that I like Kasabian's debut album.

Giz a borrow, mate
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darsy

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Nov 26, 2006, 5:35:10 PM11/26/06
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:21:56 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:47:54 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>more musico recommendo
>>
>>(not electronica this time)
>>
>>Through The Window Pane - Guillemots
>>
>>Voices of Animals and Men - Young Knives
>>
>>Raise the Alarm - Sunshine Underground
>
>"whatever"

you might actually like some of the above - they're like, you know,
"rock", complete with guitars and everything.

>You'll not be surprised to hear that I like Kasabian's debut album.

would you like more beige with that, sir?
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Champ

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Nov 26, 2006, 6:53:14 PM11/26/06
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:35:10 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:21:56 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:47:54 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>more musico recommendo
>>>
>>>(not electronica this time)
>>>
>>>Through The Window Pane - Guillemots
>>>
>>>Voices of Animals and Men - Young Knives
>>>
>>>Raise the Alarm - Sunshine Underground
>>
>>"whatever"
>
>you might actually like some of the above - they're like, you know,
>"rock", complete with guitars and everything.

Unlike some around here, I'm not wedded to music with guitars and
stuff. I do generally like "songs" rather than soundscapes, tho - the
nearest I get to that is probably Radiohead's Kid A.

>>You'll not be surprised to hear that I like Kasabian's debut album.
>
>would you like more beige with that, sir?

Nicely done. If Mark Bolan were alive he'd be suing them over "Shoot
the Runner".

ginge

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Nov 26, 2006, 7:08:06 PM11/26/06
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In article <b4akm2pu7nmv7412k...@4ax.com>, Champ says...

> On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:35:10 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:21:56 +0000, Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

> >>You'll not be surprised to hear that I like Kasabian's debut album.
> >
> >would you like more beige with that, sir?
>
> Nicely done. If Mark Bolan were alive he'd be suing them over "Shoot
> the Runner".

That's off their 2nd album, y'know..

zym...@technologist.com

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Nov 26, 2006, 7:10:06 PM11/26/06
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darsy wrote:
> Brownz wrote:

> >darsy wrote:
>
> That said, provisionly I've booked my departments's Xmas do @ BarRumba.

Mine's at the Europa !

HTH,

Paul.

Wicked Uncle Nigel

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Nov 26, 2006, 7:13:44 PM11/26/06
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,
zym...@technologist.com typed

Cool. Hope it goes with a bang.

Oh... Wait...

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vulgarandmischevious

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Nov 26, 2006, 10:50:05 PM11/26/06
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Champ wrote:

> If Mark Bolan were alive

I tell you who I'd like to be alive - so that I could kill him. Jim
cunty Morrison. I heard "light my fire" on the radio yesterday. It's
fucking dreadful. Shithead cunt.


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porl

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Nov 26, 2006, 11:07:56 PM11/26/06
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vulgarandmischevious wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>
> > If Mark Bolan were alive
>
> I tell you who I'd like to be alive - so that I could kill him. Jim
> cunty Morrison. I heard "light my fire" on the radio yesterday. It's
> fucking dreadful. Shithead cunt.

Mr Ono for Imagine.

porl

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Nov 26, 2006, 11:20:47 PM11/26/06
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I thought we'd done baggy already.. it can't be time for a revival
already ffs.

vulgarandmischevious

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Nov 27, 2006, 1:20:40 AM11/27/06
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porl wrote:

Agreed. Tiresome dirge.


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porl

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Nov 27, 2006, 1:44:38 AM11/27/06
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Talking about tiresome dirge I have to hand it to Mike Patton for his
views on Wolfmother.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r98WLLWMq3o

Eiron

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Nov 27, 2006, 3:32:55 AM11/27/06
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vulgarandmischevious wrote:

> Champ wrote:
>
>
>>If Mark Bolan were alive
>
>
> I tell you who I'd like to be alive - so that I could kill him. Jim
> cunty Morrison. I heard "light my fire" on the radio yesterday. It's
> fucking dreadful. Shithead cunt.

Three other blokes had a hand in it and are still alive.
Was it the music or the lyrics and singing that annoyed you?
Are you sure you were listening to The Doors? Could it have been
"Relight My Fire" by Take That? The Doors were really quite good
in parts.

--
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Bear

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Nov 27, 2006, 5:33:06 PM11/27/06
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:50:05 -0700, vulgarandmischevious said ...

> Champ wrote:
>
> > If Mark Bolan were alive
>
> I tell you who I'd like to be alive - so that I could kill him. Jim
> cunty Morrison. I heard "light my fire" on the radio yesterday. It's
> fucking dreadful. Shithead cunt.

You've missed the point; JM's vocals encourage participation, in the
same way as the Punk era did, on the basis you couldn't do any worse
yourself.

And I *like* The Doors.
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Bear

ogden

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Nov 28, 2006, 8:34:06 AM11/28/06
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darsy wrote:
>
> a) it's not an official company do &
> b) I don't work for a bank[1]
>
> [1] though you're closer than Kenyons insulting suggestion that I work
> an insurance company.

You say financial protection, he say insurance. Let's call the whole
thing a bank.

darsy

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Nov 28, 2006, 8:48:31 AM11/28/06
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ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:

>darsy wrote:
>>
>> a) it's not an official company do &
>> b) I don't work for a bank[1]
>>
>> [1] though you're closer than Kenyons insulting suggestion that I work
>> an insurance company.
>
>You say financial protection, he say insurance. Let's call the whole
>thing a bank.

I don't say "financial protection" at all. That's also not what we do.
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vulgarandmischevious

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Nov 29, 2006, 2:15:05 AM11/29/06
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darsy wrote:

>I don't say "financial protection" at all. That's also not what we do.

It's "we" now, is it? You corporate whore.

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darsy

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Nov 29, 2006, 2:43:49 AM11/29/06
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:15:05 -0700, vulgarandmischevious
<vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:

>darsy wrote:
>
>>I don't say "financial protection" at all. That's also not what we do.
>
>It's "we" now, is it? You corporate whore.

I've worked here now longer than I've worked continuously at any other
firm. It's a worry.
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Ace

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Nov 29, 2006, 4:00:00 AM11/29/06
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You're worried? I've been at one place for six years now, 4.5 of them
in essentially the same role.

Before that the longest I'd ever done in one job was 18 months.
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Nov 29, 2006, 4:11:29 AM11/29/06
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On Nov 29, 10:00 am, Ace <see...@virgin.net> wrote:

> >I've worked here now longer than I've worked continuously at any other
> >firm. It's a worry.

>You're worried? I've been at one place for six years now, 4.5 of them
> in essentially the same role.

I've been with my current lot, <counts> 9 and a bit years now.
Admittedly there's been 5 or 6 different roles and 3 relocations.

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ginge

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Nov 29, 2006, 4:17:32 AM11/29/06
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In article <7uiqm2hg79lb1eh3i...@4ax.com>, Ace says...

> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:43:49 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:15:05 -0700, vulgarandmischevious
> ><vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>darsy wrote:
> >>
> >>>I don't say "financial protection" at all. That's also not what we do.
> >>
> >>It's "we" now, is it? You corporate whore.
> >
> >I've worked here now longer than I've worked continuously at any other
> >firm. It's a worry.
>
> You're worried? I've been at one place for six years now, 4.5 of them
> in essentially the same role.

I've been in this job for the past 5.5 years, very worrying as on day 2
I decided I'd only do it for a year or so to force myself to get better
at dealing with all the paperwork and politics stuff I so hated.

darsy

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:35:33 AM11/29/06
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Ace <see...@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:43:49 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:15:05 -0700, vulgarandmischevious
>><vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>darsy wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't say "financial protection" at all. That's also not what we do.
>>>
>>>It's "we" now, is it? You corporate whore.
>>
>>I've worked here now longer than I've worked continuously at any other
>>firm. It's a worry.
>
>You're worried? I've been at one place for six years now, 4.5 of them
>in essentially the same role.
>
>Before that the longest I'd ever done in one job was 18 months.

the worry is that I've been here a tad under 4 years, despite the fact
for the first 6 months I kept telling myself that I had to leave, or
I'd go mad.

You work it out.

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Ace

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:41:21 AM11/29/06
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:35:33 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:

>the worry is that I've been here a tad under 4 years, despite the fact
>for the first 6 months I kept telling myself that I had to leave, or
>I'd go mad.

Yes, I can see why that wou;d be of concern. I had exactly yhe
opposite - after 30 or so employers over the years, I was convinced I
wanted to stay here after just a couple of months.

>You work it out.

So when't the leaving do?

ginge

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:42:55 AM11/29/06
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In article <gioqm254kbn6o8fke...@4ax.com>, darsy says...

> the worry is that I've been here a tad under 4 years, despite the fact
> for the first 6 months I kept telling myself that I had to leave, or
> I'd go mad.
>
> You work it out.

I feel your anguish.


darsy

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:53:45 AM11/29/06
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Ace <see...@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:35:33 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>the worry is that I've been here a tad under 4 years, despite the fact
>>for the first 6 months I kept telling myself that I had to leave, or
>>I'd go mad.
>
>Yes, I can see why that wou;d be of concern. I had exactly yhe
>opposite - after 30 or so employers over the years, I was convinced I
>wanted to stay here after just a couple of months.

I felt like that about my last permanent employer. Unfortunately in
that case the company had changed beyond recognition after two years.

The positive side of having stayed here is that I *haven't* just done
the same thing the whole time, I've had 5 different job titles, and my
role and responsibility changes quite frequently.

>>You work it out.
>
>So when't the leaving do?

Good question. I'll see how this years bonus pans out.

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d.

darsy

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:55:46 AM11/29/06
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ginge <the.gin...@THIS.gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been in this job for the past 5.5 years, very worrying as on day 2
>I decided I'd only do it for a year or so to force myself to get better
>at dealing with all the paperwork and politics stuff I so hated.

Similar for me, though I took this job as a way of moving back to
permanent from contracting, because I wanted to move away from
development into more general IT management. It's not so much a
problem that this place is a corporate (I've worked for other
corporates that were completely different); it's more that the way the
French "organise" things is completely counter-intuitive to someone
used to using things like "logic", "reality", "common sense" and
"reason" in a business environment.

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ginge

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Nov 29, 2006, 6:15:09 AM11/29/06
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In article <5mpqm2h1ca6chc0jf...@4ax.com>, darsy says...

It sounds to me like the French and the Americans can be quite similar,
thinking back to when I worked for a UK corporate it was very
differently run, and common sense wasn't feared.

I've had a taste of management here too, and decided I sure as hell
don't want to be doing it in the outsourcing division of the company,
it really is the shittiest end of a very shitty stick. Perhaps if I
move divisions and get into one of the technology or consultancy
practices I'd give it a go, the culture is different there.

Alison Hopkins

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Nov 29, 2006, 1:36:37 PM11/29/06
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"darsy" <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5mpqm2h1ca6chc0jf...@4ax.com...

> Similar for me, though I took this job as a way of moving back to
> permanent from contracting, because I wanted to move away from
> development into more general IT management. It's not so much a
> problem that this place is a corporate (I've worked for other
> corporates that were completely different); it's more that the way the
> French "organise" things is completely counter-intuitive to someone
> used to using things like "logic", "reality", "common sense" and
> "reason" in a business environment.
>

Ah. I worked for Bull. This sounds all too familiar.

Ali


sweller

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Nov 29, 2006, 2:07:41 PM11/29/06
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Champ wrote:

> You'll not be surprised to hear that I like Kasabian's debut album.

Sounds to me like an unholy alliance between The Stone Roses, Happy
Mondays and The Glitter Band.

"The band who sound like someone else".

--
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Champ

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Nov 29, 2006, 2:29:13 PM11/29/06
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On 29 Nov 2006 11:07:41 -0800, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

Almost all bands sound like a combination of other stuff.
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sweller

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Nov 29, 2006, 2:35:45 PM11/29/06
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Champ wrote:

> >> You'll not be surprised to hear that I like Kasabian's debut album.
> >
> >Sounds to me like an unholy alliance between The Stone Roses, Happy
> >Mondays and The Glitter Band.
> >
> >"The band who sound like someone else".
>
> Almost all bands sound like a combination of other stuff.

Yes, but Kasabian are Dad Rock and strangely empty. If they were a
pudding it'd be Butterscotch Instant Whip.

FWIW, I can think of one contemporary band who are anything but
derivative...

--
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Champ

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Nov 29, 2006, 3:41:10 PM11/29/06
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On 29 Nov 2006 11:35:45 -0800, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>Champ wrote:
>
>> >> You'll not be surprised to hear that I like Kasabian's debut album.
>> >
>> >Sounds to me like an unholy alliance between The Stone Roses, Happy
>> >Mondays and The Glitter Band.
>> >
>> >"The band who sound like someone else".
>>
>> Almost all bands sound like a combination of other stuff.
>
>Yes, but Kasabian are Dad Rock and strangely empty. If they were a
>pudding it'd be Butterscotch Instant Whip.

heh - Butterscotch Instant Whip would probably count as my favourite
pudding ever.

>FWIW, I can think of one contemporary band who are anything but
>derivative.

Who?

sweller

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Nov 29, 2006, 3:45:50 PM11/29/06
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Champ wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2006 11:35:45 -0800, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Champ wrote:

> >Yes, but Kasabian are Dad Rock and strangely empty. If they were a
> >pudding it'd be Butterscotch Instant Whip.
>
> heh - Butterscotch Instant Whip would probably count as my favourite
> pudding ever.

It's even the right fucking colour.


> >FWIW, I can think of one contemporary band who are anything but
> >derivative.
>
> Who?

<fx: drumroll>

The Fall

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Champ

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Nov 29, 2006, 4:47:33 PM11/29/06
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On 29 Nov 2006 12:45:50 -0800, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>Champ wrote:
>> On 29 Nov 2006 11:35:45 -0800, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Champ wrote:
>
>> >Yes, but Kasabian are Dad Rock and strangely empty. If they were a
>> >pudding it'd be Butterscotch Instant Whip.
>>
>> heh - Butterscotch Instant Whip would probably count as my favourite
>> pudding ever.
>
>It's even the right fucking colour.

I can't really describe the colour. Sort of yellowy brown, I suppose.
It's years and years since I've had it <makes note on shopping list>

>> >FWIW, I can think of one contemporary band who are anything but
>> >derivative.
>>
>> Who?
>
><fx: drumroll>
>
>The Fall

Good lord - are they still going?

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porl

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:16:56 PM11/29/06
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You can only say that because they've been going so long doing the same
thing.

All music is derivative to a degree. What's important is what spin is
brought to the table. For instance take Kings of Leon and Wolfmother.
They're both hideously derivative and yet KoL makes it sound like
they're not and Wolfmother sounds like what was scraped off the remains
of the plane that Lynyrd Skynyrd crashed in.

platypus

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Nov 29, 2006, 5:57:38 PM11/29/06
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An antipodean posting style?

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porl

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Nov 29, 2006, 6:40:49 PM11/29/06
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Er...that's it!

(Thanks Platy)

CT

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Nov 30, 2006, 4:16:06 AM11/30/06
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sweller wrote:

<small voice>
I like Kasabian and am going to see them at Earls Court on the 19th.
</sv>

It won't be as good as their gig at Brixton.
The Killers (Brixton, Monday night) rocked though.
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darsy

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Nov 30, 2006, 4:56:12 AM11/30/06
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"Alison Hopkins" <fn...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

the real worry is that I'm getting used to it.

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darsy

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Nov 30, 2006, 4:56:32 AM11/30/06
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Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On 29 Nov 2006 12:45:50 -0800, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Champ wrote:
>>> On 29 Nov 2006 11:35:45 -0800, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Champ wrote:
>>
>>> >Yes, but Kasabian are Dad Rock and strangely empty. If they were a
>>> >pudding it'd be Butterscotch Instant Whip.
>>>
>>> heh - Butterscotch Instant Whip would probably count as my favourite
>>> pudding ever.
>>
>>It's even the right fucking colour.
>
>I can't really describe the colour. Sort of yellowy brown, I suppose.
>It's years and years since I've had it <makes note on shopping list>

beige, duh.

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darsy

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Nov 30, 2006, 4:57:25 AM11/30/06
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dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:

> vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
><vqcqm2hi4mlkmhpm1...@4ax.com>:


>
>>darsy wrote:
>>
>>>I don't say "financial protection" at all. That's also not what we do.
>>
>>It's "we" now, is it? You corporate whore.
>

>That's a bit of a giveaway.

it is, isn't it?

>It indicates the absorbtion of the self into the 'mass' for the greater
>good.

I wouldn't say that, however.
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Champ

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Nov 30, 2006, 6:30:58 AM11/30/06
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:56:32 +0000, darsy <da...@sticky.co.uk> wrote:

>>>> >Yes, but Kasabian are Dad Rock and strangely empty. If they were a
>>>> >pudding it'd be Butterscotch Instant Whip.
>>>>
>>>> heh - Butterscotch Instant Whip would probably count as my favourite
>>>> pudding ever.
>>>
>>>It's even the right fucking colour.
>>
>>I can't really describe the colour. Sort of yellowy brown, I suppose.
>>It's years and years since I've had it <makes note on shopping list>
>
>beige, duh.

oh yeah. duh.
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