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Ian Vincent
Blimey, that was a rare sight. A productive and positive TV programme about
a motorcycle subject (theft in this case).
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Alan W. Frame
Ged Martin <g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Later on, in a different clip, another
> policeman explained how it was entirely possible for an unsuspecting
> punter to buy a ringer without realising it. You may have noticed that
> they didn't explain if the bloke and pillion they'd chased were done
> for anything.
There was a bit in one of the bike mags a while back about
a cop that got his bike nicked from a police station pound
- it was then ringed and sold on to *another* Met. plod...
rgds, Alan
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John Munro
In article <19971001.E2...@binny.demon.co.uk>,
i...@fospam.demon.co.uk (Ian Vincent) wrote:
#Blimey, that was a rare sight. A productive and positive TV programme
about
#a motorcycle subject (theft in this case).
#
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised too, I thought we were in for the usual
crap.
<thinks>
I bet it was sponsored by a fuckin insurance company..
</thinks>
John
VFR750FR-soon to be YZF1R :-)))
NX650 Dominator
Tim Puffett
In article <34375ab0...@news.demon.co.uk>, Ged Martin
<g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 20:26:43, Ian Vincent scribbled:
>
>>Blimey, that was a rare sight. A productive and positive TV programme about
>
>that the fucking police force who claimed a victory for stopping a
>little kid out on his kosher road-legal bike seemed to be a complete
>bunch of tossers.
>
<snip, etc.>
>Er, I think I need to have a lie down now....I may be turning in
>Matt!!!!
>
Funny you should say this right at the end, as I read your first
paragraph I actually looked at the sig to check it was Matt!!
Tim BOF#009
VTR1000
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Tim Puffett
sh...@sahart.demon.co.uk
On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 11:58:04 GMT, g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk (Ged Martin)
wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 21:37:20 +0100, John Munro scribbled:
>
>><thinks>
>>I bet it was sponsored by a fuckin insurance company..
>></thinks>
>
>I thought it was an advert for Sold Secure and the fucking police.
>
Bottom line is...
Is there any one type of lock which will beat beat the thieves?
Last time I went on holiday without the bike, I took the back wheel
off it and left the wheel round a mates.
Ian Vincent
Ged Martin (g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:11:23 +0100, Tim Puffett scribbled:
:
: >Funny you should say this right at the end, as I read your first
: >paragraph I actually looked at the sig to check it was Matt!!
: Scary, isn't it???? Next thing you know, I'll start saying things like
: "Oh moi beauty" and wittering on about tractors and parsnips and
: RS250's and the usual bollocks.
:
: Anyway, there wuz oi riding my RS250 down the fucking road, when oi
: spied a lovely Massey-Ferguson MF450 with a back-hoe been driven in a
: dangerous manner boi some straw-chewin' farmer. Sez oi to the farmer
: "What you'm doin' moi beauty?" "Oi's just getting the parznip crop
: dugs up", sez he. "Well moi old cocker, you'm best watch out for them
: dang coppers, won't ee? Loike as not, they'll have ee afore the
: magistrate afore ee can say "What you doin' moi beauty?"".
:
: This week I have been mostly talking bollocks.
No kidding, what accent was that supposed to be? Dick Van Dyke?
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In article <34349274...@news.demon.co.uk>, sh...@sahart.demon.co.uk
writes
Round a mates what? neck? willy?
We should be told.
Barry
>
>This week I have been mostly talking bollocks.
>
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bruce
sh...@sahart.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
> On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 11:58:04 GMT, g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk (Ged Martin)
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 21:37:20 +0100, John Munro scribbled:
> >
> >><thinks>
> >>I bet it was sponsored by a fuckin insurance company..
> >></thinks>
> >
> >I thought it was an advert for Sold Secure and the fucking police.
> >
> Bottom line is...
>
> Is there any one type of lock which will beat beat the thieves?
>
U-locks are quite good for beating theives, especially if you beat them
round the head with it.
Bruce
Martin Sheil
Ged Martin (g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: This week I have been mostly talking bollocks.
Week?
Martin
Barry
>I think she quite likes looking after it - it gives her a purpose in
>life and also gives her something different to talk to ;-)
>
>
It's probably a good talking point when other old dears pop in for a cup
of tea.
od1 ' mornin', hows the wheel today then?'
od2 ' it still hasn't touched the milk I put down for it.'
od1 ' oh well, put the kettle on you silly old bag'.
Mick Whittingham
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 21:37:20 +0100, John Munro scribbled:
>>
>>><thinks>
>>>I bet it was sponsored by a fuckin insurance company..
>>></thinks>
>>
>>I thought it was an advert for Sold Secure and the fucking police.
>>
>Bottom line is...
>
>Is there any one type of lock which will beat beat the thieves?
>
his bay window. He has had several attempted theft attempts until he
tried a rather good anti theft device.
He fitted a large ring bolt to the front wall of his house under the
window. A ordinary heavy chain loops round the bike and is padlocked to
this. What makes it work is the side standrests on a naff plastic disc
the sort to stop the stand sinking in. The ring bolt is set in an epoxy
resin and is electrically isolated from the house.
It is connected to the mains via a current limiting device that
switches the power off after it detects a surge. At the same time it
turns an alarm on in the house.
The police turned up after the alarm went off on one occasion. (Plus a
lot of screams.)
The thieves had phoned the police and complained. The guy goes out and
shows them you could move the bikewith no problem and that there were no
wires attached. They went away happy.
--
Mick Whittingham
FJ1200 ABS 'BOF #006'
Professional 'Old Fart'
sh...@sahart.demon.co.uk
>In article <34349274...@news.demon.co.uk>, sh...@sahart.demon.co.uk
>writes
>snip
>>
>>Last time I went on holiday without the bike, I took the back wheel
>>off it and left the wheel round a mates.
>>
>
>Tim replied: Round a mates what? neck? willy?
>We should be told.
>
>--
>Tim Puffett
Round a mate's grandma's house. It's brilliant - she can't go out (if
you hide her zimmer frame) so she is always there to guard it and when
I got the wheel back last time, she'd knitted it a nice purple and
yellow tire warmer.
Trevor Dennis
Ian Vincent <i...@fospam.demon.co.uk> said
>Ged Martin (g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>: This week I have been mostly talking bollocks.
>
>No kidding, what accent was that supposed to be? Dick Van Dyke?
Now you've gone and woken up another west country bumpkin Ged. ;-)
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Mick Whittingham <Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> said
>It is connected to the mains via a current limiting device that
>switches the power off after it detects a surge. At the same time it
>turns an alarm on in the house.
You're the last person I'd accuse of a FOAF story Mick, but it seems to
me that a modern bike has too many voltage/polarity sensitive devices to
make 240V AC a user friendly option.
Mick Whittingham
In article <GjEnshAo...@tdennis.demon.co.uk>, Trevor Dennis
<tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> writes
>Mick Whittingham <Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> said
>
>>It is connected to the mains via a current limiting device that
>>switches the power off after it detects a surge. At the same time it
>>turns an alarm on in the house.
>
>You're the last person I'd accuse of a FOAF story Mick, but it seems to
>me that a modern bike has too many voltage/polarity sensitive devices to
>make 240V AC a user friendly option.
If I remember right it was an old Honda 4 something. No plastic and
probably no clever electrics. Location is between Ladywell and Lewisham.
The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
of the thief.)
There are several reported incidents of high cost cars with lots of
nasty expensive electrics being fitted with electric fence units and
they run at 5 to 7 thousand volts.
--
Mick Whittingham
'and I will make it a felony to drink small beer.'
William Shakespeare, Henry VI part 2.
Mick Whittingham
In article <343bb73d...@news.demon.co.uk>, Keir Giles <russ-
s...@NOSPAM.avnet.co.uk> writes
>On Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:13:05 +0100, Mick Whittingham
><Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>If I remember right it was an old Honda 4 something. No plastic and
>>probably no clever electrics. Location is between Ladywell and Lewisham.
>>The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
>>thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
>>system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
>>of the thief.)
>
>suspicion deepens in the mind of an ex-Asylum resident on Lewisham
>High Street. Are such things possible in SE13?
>
I was dragged up in Catford as a yoof. I wouldn't recognise the place
now.
Keir Giles
Sue Johnson
On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 08:23:11 GMT, g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk (Ged Martin)
wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Oct 1997 19:34:33, Ian Vincent scribbled:
>
>>No kidding, what accent was that supposed to be? Dick Van Dyke?
>
>'Cor luv'a'duck Mary Poppins and no mistake!!!!
>
AAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!
Windy
NGG sick bay
Mark Powell
>The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
>thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
>system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
>of the thief.)
I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
--
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Cortek Data Systems Limited
cor...@globalnet.co.uk
Mick Whittingham
In article <343950...@127.0.0.1>, Mark Powell <postm...@127.0.0.1>
writes
>>The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
>>thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
>>system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
>>of the thief.)
>
>I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
>
>
One of the worst electrical burns/shocks I have ever had was while
helping launch a ski boat. I was up to my arms in salt water holding on
to a grab rail at the stern of the boat when the owner hit the start
button. The prat who owned the boat had the out board casing connected
to the negative terminal of the starter battery and the boats metal bits
connected to the positive side so his old CB set with positive earth
would work. He got away with it because the two bits were not
electricaly connected. The starter was a double pole unit to reduce
electrolitic action. I couldn't let go of the grab rail and ended up
with a burn on my hand about 2 inches long.
It hurt like a hurting thing that hurts a lot.
DGB
Mark Powell wrote:
>
> >The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
> >thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
> >system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
> >of the thief.)
>
> I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
>
>
True, 100milli amps is enough to stop the human heart, although if its a
bike thief 100 amps should fry the wanker quite nicely thank you!
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IA. Nichols
DGB (ian_t...@jpmorgan.com) wrote:
: Mark Powell wrote:
: > I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
:
: True, 100milli amps is enough to stop the human heart, although if its a
: bike thief 100 amps should fry the wanker quite nicely thank you!
Ain't no-one heard of Ohm's law, then? You need enough volts to drive the
desired number of amps through the load, which varies according to how
sweaty the miscreants palms are (amongst other things).
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Mark Powell <postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
> >thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
> >system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
> >of the thief.)
>
> I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
Indeed, but the limiting factor is the resistance of the human bod. It
takes a fair voltage to push a dangerous current through you, inles you
take special steps (like standing in salt water, as Mick mentionsin
another branch)
--
ap
Too much is seldom enough. Try http://thrustSSC.digital.co.uk
Mick Whittingham
In article <EHox1...@fsa.bris.ac.uk>, "IA. Nichols"
<cp...@mail.bris.ac.uk> writes
>DGB (ian_t...@jpmorgan.com) wrote:
>: Mark Powell wrote:
>
>: > I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
>:
>: True, 100milli amps is enough to stop the human heart, although if its a
>: bike thief 100 amps should fry the wanker quite nicely thank you!
>
>Ain't no-one heard of Ohm's law, then? You need enough volts to drive the
>desired number of amps through the load, which varies according to how
>sweaty the miscreants palms are (amongst other things).
>
they get suspicious. If you could get that close maybe a bucket of
petrol.
Matthew Cull
In article <3442b68e...@news.demon.co.uk>, Ged Martin
<g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:11:23 +0100, Tim Puffett scribbled:
>
>>Funny you should say this right at the end, as I read your first
>>paragraph I actually looked at the sig to check it was Matt!!
So did I, bloody scary!!
>Scary, isn't it???? Next thing you know, I'll start saying things like
>"Oh moi beauty" and wittering on about tractors and parsnips and
>RS250's and the usual bollocks.
>
>Anyway, there wuz oi riding my RS250 down the fucking road, when oi
>spied a lovely Massey-Ferguson MF450 with a back-hoe been driven in a
>dangerous manner boi some straw-chewin' farmer. Sez oi to the farmer
>"What you'm doin' moi beauty?" "Oi's just getting the parznip crop
>dugs up", sez he. "Well moi old cocker, you'm best watch out for them
>dang coppers, won't ee? Loike as not, they'll have ee afore the
>magistrate afore ee can say "What you doin' moi beauty?"".
Apart from the obvious likeness to Dick Van Dyke, very funny. You now
owe me a new keyboard 'cos this one is a bit aticky!!
>This week I have been mostly talking bollocks.
Huum, these norvern dick'eds have absolutely no idea of time.....
--
Matt - Bremen.
OT #4. TSTF2. AWA #3.
It only takes two-strokes to get me excited.
Chris Des Clayes
On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 21:57:36 +0100, Mark Powell
<postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
>>thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
>>system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
>>of the thief.)
>
>I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
Don't take it too literally. You don't get amps without
volts, unless we're talking about superconductivity.
Static electricity, which happily destroys CMOS electronics,
generally has high voltage and minimal current except in the
form of lightning, when both are too high for comfort.
Chris.
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Barry
>There are several reported incidents of high cost cars with lots of
>nasty expensive electrics being fitted with electric fence units and
>they run at 5 to 7 thousand volts.
>
volts thrill, mills kill
meaning it's not the volts that whack your heart into submission but the
current. At a couple of microamps it'll make you dance around like a
member of the Tracy family in thunderbirds, A couple of milliamps, and
you are pushing up the daisies. So just be careful with the mains the
normal 13 amp fuse can mean your dead long before it blows.
Ian Vincent
Chris Des Clayes (CDes_...@compuserve.com) wrote:
: On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 21:57:36 +0100, Mark Powell
: <postm...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
:
: >>The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
: >>thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
: >>system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
: >>of the thief.)
: >
: >I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
:
: Don't take it too literally. You don't get amps without
: volts, unless we're talking about superconductivity.
:
: Static electricity, which happily destroys CMOS electronics,
: generally has high voltage and minimal current except in the
: form of lightning, when both are too high for comfort.
It used to, CMOS technology is a bit more hardy now (not indestructable
though).
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Matthew Cull
In article <34375ab0...@news.demon.co.uk>, Ged Martin
<g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk> writes
>Er, I think I need to have a lie down now....I may be turning in
>Matt!!!!
Well if you're turning in me, I hadn't noticed, you must have a typical
norvern appendage.
You go and have a nice lie down, that is what I'm gonna do now!!
Philip Luke
What about a bol-lock! :-)
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In article <HjZn8eAc...@tdennis.demon.co.uk>, Trevor Dennis
<tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> writes>>: This week I have been mostly talking bollocks.
>>
>>No kidding, what accent was that supposed to be? Dick Van Dyke?
>
>
.......... Who's bin makin all that noise out there!
VeggieDave
In article <DopH$jABG8...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk>, Matthew Cull
<ma...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Huum, these norvern dick'eds have absolutely no idea of time.....
Times an abstract concept - I prefer a watch.
Stupid southern twats - how bleeding obvious can you get?
Veggie Dave
Martin Sheil
Matthew Cull (ma...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <343ce...@news.dmu.ac.uk>, Martin Sheil <msh...@dmu.ac.uk>
: writes
: >Trevor Dennis (tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: >
: >: But when it comes to human flesh you need volts to really hurt someone.
: >
: >: Loath as I am to give my age away again, the scariest electrical
: >: components I have dealt with were the 3KV PSUs for RF valve amplifiers,
: >: (they also had an "adequate" current capability). These would not just
: >: burn you but turn your flesh to jelly.
: >
: >....and they can be obtained from...?
: You can buy a 150KV 1.2A generator from Philips in Hamburg. I did the
: software for it so it prolly won't work now but when it did it used to
: scare me shitless.
...and will it fit discretely in a topbox....?
Martin
Matthew Cull
In article <19971009001...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, VeggieDave
<veggi...@aol.com> writes
Dunno, wot wos the question??
Martin Sheil
Trevor Dennis (tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: But when it comes to human flesh you need volts to really hurt someone.
: Loath as I am to give my age away again, the scariest electrical
: components I have dealt with were the 3KV PSUs for RF valve amplifiers,
: (they also had an "adequate" current capability). These would not just
: burn you but turn your flesh to jelly.
....and they can be obtained from...?
Martin
Matthew Cull
In article <343d0...@news.dmu.ac.uk>, Martin Sheil <msh...@dmu.ac.uk>
writes
>: >....and they can be obtained from...?
>
>: You can buy a 150KV 1.2A generator from Philips in Hamburg. I did the
>: software for it so it prolly won't work now but when it did it used to
>: scare me shitless.
>
>...and will it fit discretely in a topbox....?
In a word, yes, if you ride a Lead Wing!
Mike Fleming
In article <nmZ$9SBXXM...@tdennis.demon.co.uk>, Trevor Dennis
<tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> writes:
> Loath as I am to give my age away again, the scariest electrical
> components I have dealt with were the 3KV PSUs for RF valve amplifiers,
> (they also had an "adequate" current capability). These would not just
> burn you but turn your flesh to jelly.
So you took up electronics as a hobby when you retired?
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Trevor Dennis <tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Loath as I am to give my age away
Sorry, no takers
--
'ric
PHRG #1
Martin Sheil
Matthew Cull (ma...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <343e0...@news.dmu.ac.uk>, Martin Sheil <msh...@dmu.ac.uk>
: writes
: >: >
: >: >: You can buy a 150KV 1.2A generator from Philips in Hamburg. I did the
: >: >: software for it so it prolly won't work now but when it did it used to
: >: >: scare me shitless.
: >: >
: >: >...and will it fit discretely in a topbox....?
: >
: >: In a word, yes, if you ride a Lead Wing!
: >It's radioactive?
: In a word, yes, it's for generating X-Rays!
: To test it we used to X-Ray a chicken. The chicken hung there for bloody
: years and never started to smell or rot.
But did it cure the chicken of any desire to steal bikes?
Martin
IA. Nichols
Tim Puffett (t...@puffett.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: My favourite piece of
: factory kit was the salt bath, huge bath of molten salt at some
: horrendous temp (circa 600 degrees C, ???) which if you were to chuck in
: a milk bottle full of water, we were reliably informed, the resulting
: explosion would level most of the factory. Armed with that knowledge you
: always had great respect for the salt bath.
If it was salt as in sodium chloride, it would have to be hotter than that
- IIRC the mp is over 1000 deg C.
Trevor Dennis
Martin Sheil <msh...@dmu.ac.uk> said
>...and will it fit discretely in a topbox....?
I'll tell you what will fit in a top box... A screen washer bottle with
integral pump.
With rear facing jets and the bottle filled with &*%｣#@, you could make
a person very sorry for their road rage.
--
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The Polite Brit / , \( _______ )/ , \ tden...@ford.com
OGH #1 ___/ /_\ /`"-------"`\ /_\ \___ Southern England
jgs`~//^\~_`\ <__ __> /`_~/^\\~`
`~//^\\~`~//^\\~`
Trevor Dennis
Tim Puffett <t...@puffett.demon.co.uk> said
>
>Also used to work on rf welders for welding plastic sheets
I thought they were for fucking up radio reception.
>Tim BOF#009 (and not a mention of bikes)
You'll have the new uk.r.m net cops after you matey boy.
Tim Puffett
In article <EHuIG...@fsa.bris.ac.uk>, "IA. Nichols"
<cp...@mail.bris.ac.uk> writes
>Tim Puffett (t...@puffett.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>
>: My favourite piece of
>: factory kit was the salt bath, huge bath of molten salt at some
>: horrendous temp (circa 600 degrees C, ???) which if you were to chuck in
>: a milk bottle full of water, we were reliably informed, the resulting
>: explosion would level most of the factory. Armed with that knowledge you
>: always had great respect for the salt bath.
>
>If it was salt as in sodium chloride, it would have to be hotter than that
>- IIRC the mp is over 1000 deg C.
Dunno what is was, other than fuckin' hot!. It was used to heat treat
huge ally sheets used for making aircraft. It was called the 'salt'
bath but I never ever saw any Saxa lorries arrive.
Tim BOF#009
VTR1000
--
Tim Puffett
Martin Sheil
Matthew Cull (ma...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <343d0...@news.dmu.ac.uk>, Martin Sheil <msh...@dmu.ac.uk>
: writes
: >
: >: You can buy a 150KV 1.2A generator from Philips in Hamburg. I did the
: >: software for it so it prolly won't work now but when it did it used to
: >: scare me shitless.
: >
: In a word, yes, if you ride a Lead Wing!
^^^^
It's radioactive?
Martin
andy the pugh
Tim Puffett <t...@puffett.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> My favourite piece of
> factory kit was the salt bath, huge bath of molten salt at some
> horrendous temp (circa 600 degrees C, ???) which if you were to chuck in
> a milk bottle full of water, we were reliably informed, the resulting
> explosion would level most of the factory.
Pish and tosh. It would merely have made anyone in the room very unhappy
(especially if it was a cyanide or flouride bath). I had my very own
molten sodium hydroxide (600C) bath for one for my research projects (it
is a really good quenchant). I still have the marks to show what happens
when you drop in a damp specimen.
I also have a scar from where they dug a specimen out of my abdomen
after it fractured in the rolling mill..
Dangerous game, metallurgy.
andy the pugh
IA. Nichols <cp...@mail.bris.ac.uk> wrote:
> If it was salt as in sodium chloride, it would have to be hotter than that
> - IIRC the mp is over 1000 deg C.
They are generally a Pottasium Nitrate/Sodium Nitrite Eutectic, mp about
280C. For higher quenching rates you can use Flinak (KF/NaF/LiF) but
that is a bit of a problem H&S wise.
NaOH is used in some places too, it is very good (High heat capacity,
high infra red transparency)[1]. A company I worked for once had to
change the NaOH in their bath because it silted up, 4 tonnes of NaOH to
be chipped out with a pneumatic drill. No thanks.
[1] These baths are used to quench steel from a high temperature to a
lower one very quickly, but without going below the MS temperature (380C
or less, depending on composition)
Matthew Cull
In article <343e4...@news.dmu.ac.uk>, Martin Sheil <msh...@dmu.ac.uk>
writes
>Matthew Cull (ma...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>: In article <343e0...@news.dmu.ac.uk>, Martin Sheil <msh...@dmu.ac.uk>
>: writes
>: >: >
>: >: >: You can buy a 150KV 1.2A generator from Philips in Hamburg. I did the
>: >: >: software for it so it prolly won't work now but when it did it used to
>: >: >: scare me shitless.
>: >: >
>: >: >...and will it fit discretely in a topbox....?
>: >
>: >: In a word, yes, if you ride a Lead Wing!
>: >It's radioactive?
>
>: In a word, yes, it's for generating X-Rays!
>
>: To test it we used to X-Ray a chicken. The chicken hung there for bloody
>: years and never started to smell or rot.
>
>But did it cure the chicken of any desire to steal bikes?
I fink you'll prolly find it cured it of any desires!
Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility
Tim Puffett <t...@puffett.demon.co.uk> waxed mellifluously:
>In article <EHuIG...@fsa.bris.ac.uk>, "IA. Nichols"
><cp...@mail.bris.ac.uk> writes
>>Tim Puffett (t...@puffett.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>>: My favourite piece of
>>: factory kit was the salt bath, huge bath of molten salt at some
>>: horrendous temp (circa 600 degrees C, ???) which if you were to chuck in
>>: a milk bottle full of water, we were reliably informed, the resulting
>>: explosion would level most of the factory. Armed with that knowledge you
>>: always had great respect for the salt bath.
>>If it was salt as in sodium chloride, it would have to be hotter than that
>>- IIRC the mp is over 1000 deg C.
>Dunno what is was, other than fuckin' hot!. It was used to heat treat
>huge ally sheets used for making aircraft. It was called the 'salt'
>bath but I never ever saw any Saxa lorries arrive.
Ally, eh? This would exclude the possibility of NaOH that aTp
mentioned elsewhere!
--
Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH. re...@psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD. SI=2.66 "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484
JKLO# 003, 005 WP7# 3000 UKMC#00009
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
Mick Whittingham
In article <xlMbsGAQ...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk>, Matthew Cull
<ma...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <p+1JdAA0...@puffett.demon.co.uk>, Tim Puffett
><t...@puffett.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In article <nmZ$9SBXXM...@tdennis.demon.co.uk>, Trevor Dennis
>><tre...@tdennis.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>
>>>Loath as I am to give my age away again, the scariest electrical
>>>components I have dealt with were the 3KV PSUs for RF valve amplifiers,
>>>(they also had an "adequate" current capability). These would not just
>>>burn you but turn your flesh to jelly.
>>
>
><snip more tales of lectrick stuff>
>
>I was an apprentice at the UK Atomic Energy site at Winfrith now that
>mother was powerful, mega-watts! I was also there when one of the
>turbines went wrong and took off through a concrete wall - awesome!
>
You didn't by chance meet up with an ex Marconi apprentice called Blud-
Nut, on account of his exceptionally red/ginger hair. Alan Holmes I
think his name was.
On the electrical bike mains powered thief fryer. I contacted the guy
(Tall Dave) and asked some questions. He ran the out put to the bike
through a differential circuit breaker which he described as a little
out of spec.
The out put from the circuit breaker also powered a small relay which
when the power went off set off the alarm in the house.
Matthew Cull
In article <jm4GuFAM...@mjwc.demon.co.uk>, Mick Whittingham
<Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> writes
>You didn't by chance meet up with an ex Marconi apprentice called Blud-
>Nut, on account of his exceptionally red/ginger hair. Alan Holmes I
>think his name was.
Nope :-)
Sue Johnson
>In article <34349274...@news.demon.co.uk>, sh...@sahart.demon.co.uk
>writes
>>Is there any one type of lock which will beat beat the thieves?
>
>What about a bol-lock! :-)
Meaning you remove yours and do what exactly? Or are you saying beat
them round the head with it?
Windy
NGG very confused
Martin Sheil
Matthew Cull (ma...@mdsmccl.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <343e4...@news.dmu.ac.uk>, Martin Sheil <msh...@dmu.ac.uk>
: writes
: >: >: >
: >: >: >: You can buy a 150KV 1.2A generator from Philips in Hamburg. I did the
: >: >: >: software for it so it prolly won't work now but when it did it used to
: >: >: >: scare me shitless.
: >: >: >...and will it fit discretely in a topbox....?
: >: >: In a word, yes, if you ride a Lead Wing!
: >: >It's radioactive?
: >: In a word, yes, it's for generating X-Rays!
: >: To test it we used to X-Ray a chicken. The chicken hung there for bloody
: >: years and never started to smell or rot.
: >
: >But did it cure the chicken of any desire to steal bikes?
: I fink you'll prolly find it cured it of any desires!
So the world has a device that can cure bike thieves and possibly
Jehovah's Witnesses as well. Why has this been kept secret until now?
Martin
Dan Nitschke
Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility wrote:
> Ally, eh? This would exclude the possibility of NaOH that aTp
> mentioned elsewhere!
I don't know about you, but I'd *want* Noah as my ally.
(Especially with "El Niño" on the way.)
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And he waits; but he will not see the falling of the rain.
-- Billy Joel, "Falling of the Rain"
Paul Friday
>On the electrical bike mains powered thief fryer. I contacted the guy
>(Tall Dave) and asked some questions. He ran the out put to the bike
>through a differential circuit breaker which he described as a little
>out of spec.
>The out put from the circuit breaker also powered a small relay which
>when the power went off set off the alarm in the house.
How about using an old photographic flashgun? They use a bit of
electronics to charge a large capacitor, that discharges to fire the
flash tube. Substitute thief for tube. Flash guns are also easy to find,
small and low voltage.
Anyone know how to wire one up? A flashgun is fired by making contact
between the two conductors of the hotshoe fitting or trigger cable. To
make this work as a 'fryer' you would need to use something like the
capacitance sensor used in a touch-sensitive switch. You would also have
to ensure that the kilovolt output did not destroy the trigger circuit.
What we need is a tame sparky and a captive bike thief to experiment
with.
----------------------------
Paul Friday
To reply remove the junk from the address.
Time's fun when you're having flies - Kermit.
Chris Mac
Is it your ambition to join every killfile in the known universe?
You want a boatbuilder as your ally when you're worried about drought?
Why don't you stop wasting our time with these inane pseudo-profound
comments and quotes?
--
"There aint no devil,
it's just god when he's drunk."
Dan Nitschke
Chris Mac wrote:
>
> Dan Nitschke wrote:
> >
> > Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility wrote:
> >
> > > Ally, eh? This would exclude the possibility of NaOH that aTp
> > > mentioned elsewhere!
> >
> > I don't know about you, but I'd *want* Noah as my ally.
> > (Especially with "El Niño" on the way.)
> >
> > /* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
> >
> > Dan Nitschke <> peDA...@best.com <> nits...@redbrick.com
> > |.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.
> > He is a fool, and his mind is filled with hopeless dreams.
> > And he waits; but he will not see the falling of the rain.
> > -- Billy Joel, "Falling of the Rain"
>
> Do you really get a kick from seeing this mindless drivel posted?
Yes. (I thought that was obvious.)
> Is it your ambition to join every killfile in the known universe?
At least to be in more than Janice in NYC; after that,
I'll take it on the road and see what it can do.
> You want a boatbuilder as your ally when you're worried about drought?
Around *here*, El Niño is supposed to bring the wettest
winter in the last 150 years. (Of course, they said that
*last* year, so those predictions are about as accurate
as a two-dollar watch.) If they're right, Noah would be
quite an ally.
> Why don't you stop wasting our time with these inane pseudo-profound
> comments and quotes?
Because I have a compulsion, and a Mystic Responsibility (tm)
to make everyone else seem relevant by comparison. It's
working.
/* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
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-* *--* *--* *--* *--* *--* *--* *--* *--* *--* *--* *-
Sometimes we take too long to get around to questioning
our assumptions. -- Nathaniel Branden
Andy Woodward
>> >Is it your ambition to join every killfile in the known universe?
>>
>I'm still working up to your level. I must leave
>myself *something* to aspire to.
So. Why am I not in YOUR killlfile >:-[
Dan Nitschke
Sol wrote:
>
> After intense thought Chris Mac <ch...@large.in.za> wrote:
>
> >No. Just long enough to get pissed at Dan and to enjoy Ged's postings.
Well, then I'm doing *something* right; if you enjoyed
_both_ my stuff and Ged's, then the Cosmic Balance (tm)
would be upset, and The World As We Know It Would Come
To An End (tm).
> So what exactly is it that you are getting pissed at ... Dan's
> inordinately higher level of whit,
^^^^
Err, Sol... that's "wit". And I'll have you know I've
not writ one whit of wit, to wit: nitwit git.
> or your own inability to counteract
> his learned sarcasm [1]....
You cannot counteract it. Either deal with it or give
it a proper burial.
> or do you always opt for the simpler
> things, like your apparent wish to associate youself with Ged's
> relatively simplistic humour!
We all know Ged is simple. I'm the complex one. That's
why I want 2i + 7 as my UKMC number.
> [1] It must be learned .... murrican's don't get it naturally you
> know!
They can't learn, either, so you've just posted an
oxymoron. (That's the British for you.)
/* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
Dan Nitschke > > peDA...@best.com < < nits...@redbrick.com
================================================================
I'm a cosmopolitan sophisticate of culture and intelligence; the
culmination of technology and civilized experience. --Billy Joel
Maxine Wesley
On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:02:13 +0100, Mick Whittingham
<Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <343950...@127.0.0.1>, Mark Powell <postm...@127.0.0.1>
>writes
>>>The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
>>>thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
>>>system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
>>>of the thief.)
>>
>>I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
>>
>>
>100% correct (To the thief that is)
>One of the worst electrical burns/shocks I have ever had was while
>helping launch a ski boat.
So are you suggesting we immerse our motorcycles in water to keep them
safe?
Maxine
NGG UKMC#9
Dan Nitschke
Sol wrote:
>
> After intense thought Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com> wrote:
>
> >Err, Sol... that's "wit". And I'll have you know I've
> >not writ one whit of wit, to wit: nitwit git.
>
I make it a point to keep my moons covered. Modesty
über alles.
> >We all know Ged is simple. I'm the complex one. That's
> >why I want 2i + 7 as my UKMC number.
>
> Why would a moron want a complex number? Oxymoronic?
I'll take whatever flavor of moronic I can get.
/* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
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-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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want, or you can just get old. -- Billy Joel
Sol
After intense thought Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com> posted:
[1]
>I make it a point to keep my moons covered. Modesty
>über alles.
Modesty over all others? Don't the others mind?
>I'll take whatever flavor of moronic I can get.
Pfa ... your word play doesn't fool me .... they don't do 'oxy'
flavor!
[1] Don't forget to play 'Find the misspell!"
--
Sol
\\||/ MAG#94151 UKMC#501 DoD#50117 RB#01 YI#1 SI#11.21
^ ~ Semper in excretum, nil profundum variat.
(` @ @) Non illigitimum carburundum!
` .. Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum
\ ~ http://www.spirant.demon.co.uk/
"' Updated October 1997
Chris Mac
Sol wrote:
>
> After intense thought Chris Mac <ch...@large.in.za> wrote about
> Dan-Dan the Quote Man:
>
> >Do you really get a kick from seeing this mindless drivel posted?
>
>
> >comments and quotes?
>
>
> >Have a cigarette and calm down.
>
> [psuedo quote mode on]
>
> " It is a greater man than I, who in the face of adversity, can give
> advice to which he knows himself unable to adhere"
>
> [psudeo quote mode off]
>
> Or in other words ... you haven't been round here that long have you!
>
No. Just long enough to get pissed at Dan and to enjoy Ged's postings.
> Sol
> \\||/ MAG#94151 UKMC#501 DoD#50117 RB#01 YI#1 SI#11.21
> ^ ~ Semper in excretum, nil profundum variat.
> (` @ @) Non illigitimum carburundum!
> ` .. Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum
> \ ~ http://www.spirant.demon.co.uk/
> "'
--
Dan Nitschke
Andy Woodward wrote:
>
> >Is it your ambition to join every killfile in the known universe?
>
I'm still working up to your level. I must leave
myself *something* to aspire to.
/* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
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@>----------------------------------------------------<@
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing. -- Wm. Shakespeare
Dan Nitschke
Andy Woodward wrote:
> So. Why am I not in YOUR killlfile >:-[
Netscape. No killfiles. No can do.
And I like you.
/* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
Dan Nitschke ~>/ peDA...@best.com \<~ nits...@redbrick.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Just forget the words and sing along. All you need to understand
is: everything you know is wrong! -- 'Weird Al' Yankovic
Andy Woodward
Dan Nitschke
He did not. He'd never say something so small.
> >I make it a point to keep my moons covered. Modesty
> >über alles.
>
> Modesty over all others?
Modesty over everything.
> Don't the others mind?
Trust me -- *nobody* minds if I overdo modesty. My
ugliness knows no bounds. (Have we so soon forgotten
that Dan is The Least Sexually-Attractive Being In
The Known Universe (tm) ?)
> >I'll take whatever flavor of moronic I can get.
>
> Pfa ... your word play doesn't fool me .... they don't do 'oxy'
> flavor!
OK. Can I have neopolitan instead?
> [1] Don't forget to play 'Find the misspell!"
I got it! It's your inconsistent use of quotation
marks!
/* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
Dan Nitschke - peDA...@best.com - el...@redbrick.com
-=.=-:-=.=-:-=.=-:-=.=-:-=.=-:-=.=-:-=.=-:-=.=-:-=.=-
A liar needs a good memory. -- Quintilian
Tim Puffett
In article <34435C...@large.in.za>, Chris Mac <ch...@large.in.za>
writes
<snip>
>> Dan Nitschke <> peDA...@best.com <> nits...@redbrick.com
>> |.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.
>> He is a fool, and his mind is filled with hopeless dreams.
>> And he waits; but he will not see the falling of the rain.
>> -- Billy Joel, "Falling of the Rain"
>Do you really get a kick from seeing this mindless drivel posted?
>Is it your ambition to join every killfile in the known universe?
>You want a boatbuilder as your ally when you're worried about drought?
>Why don't you stop wasting our time with these inane pseudo-profound
>comments and quotes?
He writes this!
>--
>"There aint no devil,
>it's just god when he's drunk."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Then this crap!
Who's the wanker here??
Mick Whittingham
In article <AGFwAAAd...@devce.demon.co.uk>, Paul Friday <Paul.Frida
y...@devce.JUNK.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>How about using an old photographic flashgun? They use a bit of
>electronics to charge a large capacitor, that discharges to fire the
>flash tube. Substitute thief for tube. Flash guns are also easy to find,
>small and low voltage.
>
>Anyone know how to wire one up? A flashgun is fired by making contact
>between the two conductors of the hotshoe fitting or trigger cable. To
>make this work as a 'fryer' you would need to use something like the
>capacitance sensor used in a touch-sensitive switch. You would also have
>to ensure that the kilovolt output did not destroy the trigger circuit.
>
>What we need is a tame sparky and a captive bike thief to experiment
>with.
>
>----------------------------
>Paul Friday
Having mended an electronic flash gun on one occasion, I thought it
prudent to check the main capacitor was discharged before I went
further, by sliding an instrument screwdriver across the caps terminals.
It remained fixed in my memory that after the load bang, the end of the
screw driver had disappeared. The flash gun did not appear affected.
What I'm saying is although the effect on the bike thief would be
desirable, there would be the complications of disposing of the body.
Also he would, no doubt, have voided his bowls and bladder all over your
bike.
Andy Woodward
In article <34439e0e...@news.znet.com> er...@remove.znet.com (Eric Dreher) writes:
>From: er...@remove.znet.com (Eric Dreher)
>Subject: Re: CrimeBeat
>Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:30:52 GMT
>On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:43:39 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com>
>wrote:
>>Andy Woodward wrote:
>>
>>> So. Why am I not in YOUR killlfile >:-[
>>
>>Netscape. No killfiles. No can do.
>>
>>And I like you.
>That's all I needed to hear.
>He's in =mine= now!
Keep up the good work, Dan.
Mick Whittingham
In article <34439d19.4403840@news>, Maxine Wesley
<maxine...@port.ac.uk> writes
Chris Mac
Dan Nitschke wrote:
>
> Chris Mac wrote:
> >
> > Dan Nitschke wrote:
> > >
> > > Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ally, eh? This would exclude the possibility of NaOH that aTp
> > > > mentioned elsewhere!
> > >
> > > I don't know about you, but I'd *want* Noah as my ally.
> > > (Especially with "El Niño" on the way.)
> > >
> > >
> > > |.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.|.
> > > He is a fool, and his mind is filled with hopeless dreams.
> > > And he waits; but he will not see the falling of the rain.
> > > -- Billy Joel, "Falling of the Rain"
> >
> > Do you really get a kick from seeing this mindless drivel posted?
>
>
> > Is it your ambition to join every killfile in the known universe?
>
> I'll take it on the road and see what it can do.
>
> > You want a boatbuilder as your ally when you're worried about drought?
>
> winter in the last 150 years. (Of course, they said that
> *last* year, so those predictions are about as accurate
> as a two-dollar watch.) If they're right, Noah would be
> quite an ally.
Maybe there's something in that... US = wet humour, S.A.=dry ??
>
> > Why don't you stop wasting our time with these inane pseudo-profound
> > comments and quotes?
>
> to make everyone else seem relevant by comparison. It's
> working.
>
drivel and miss anything intelligent you might have to say, or I
continue to read them all and get my brain numbed.
DGB
Maxine Wesley wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:02:13 +0100, Mick Whittingham
> <Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >In article <343950...@127.0.0.1>, Mark Powell <postm...@127.0.0.1>
> >writes
> >>>The passage of 240 v ac through the frame and the body parts of the
> >>>thief should have no more detrimental effect than the bikes ignition
> >>>system. (I am reffereing to the bike's electrics and not the well being
> >>>of the thief.)
> >>
> >>I was always told it's not the volts, its the amps that matter.
> >>
> >>
> >100% correct (To the thief that is)
> >One of the worst electrical burns/shocks I have ever had was while
> >helping launch a ski boat.
>
> So are you suggesting we immerse our motorcycles in water to keep them
> safe?
>
No, the bike thief, about 10 minutes should do it.
--
Stuff everything, I've always got my bike. (Ogri)
(To send e-mail back to me please change ian_thomas to thomas_ian)
Martin Sheil
Maxine Wesley (maxine...@port.ac.uk) wrote:
: On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:02:13 +0100, Mick Whittingham
: <Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: >In article <343950...@127.0.0.1>, Mark Powell <postm...@127.0.0.1>
: >writes
: >One of the worst electrical burns/shocks I have ever had was while
: >helping launch a ski boat.
: So are you suggesting we immerse our motorcycles in water to keep them
: safe?
This could cause problems for fair weather riders.
Martin
Chris Mac
Sol wrote:
>
> After intense thought Chris Mac <ch...@large.in.za> wrote:
>
> >No. Just long enough to get pissed at Dan and to enjoy Ged's postings.
>
> his learned sarcasm [1].... or do you always opt for the simpler
> things, like your apparent wish to associate youself with Ged's
> relatively simplistic humour!
>
> know!
find some things amusing and some annoying. IMO sarcasm can't be
counteracted - especially when nothing is actually meaningful.
The point is I like to argue because I'm bored.
Martin Sheil
Dan Nitschke (peDA...@best.com) wrote:
: I'm still working up to your level. I must leave
: myself *something* to aspire to.
If you're trying to get to Adny's level, you're going in the wrong direction.
Martin.
UKMC miner
Dan Nitschke
I was heading toward Belgium. Is this wrong?
> Martin.
> UKMC miner
Does that mean I'm contributing to the delinquency of
a miner? Kewl.
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Dan Nitschke
Chris Mac wrote:
>
> Dan Nitschke wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Do you really get a kick from seeing this mindless drivel posted?
> >
> > Yes. (I thought that was obvious.)
>
> Ok, I'll draw my own conclusions from that.
By Jove, I think he's got it!
> > > Is it your ambition to join every killfile in the known universe?
> >
> > At least to be in more than Janice in NYC; after that,
> > I'll take it on the road and see what it can do.
>
> I suspect it will be blown over.
You mean "overblown". That's an apt description of just
about everything associated with Dan.
> > > You want a boatbuilder as your ally when you're worried about drought?
> >
> > Around *here*, El Niño is supposed to bring the wettest
> > winter in the last 150 years. (Of course, they said that
> > *last* year, so those predictions are about as accurate
> > as a two-dollar watch.) If they're right, Noah would be
> > quite an ally.
>
> Didn't know that. Here in S.A. they're waiting for drought.
We're supposed to get massive flooding. Or, as Jimmy
Buffett says: "I was out in California, where I hear
they have it all: they got riots, fires, and mudslides;
they got sushi in the mall. Water bars, brontosaurs,
Chinese modern lust; shake-'n'-bake life with the 'quake;
the secret's in the crust."
California's a nice place to visit, but you wouldn't
want to live here.
> Maybe there's something in that... US = wet humour, S.A.=dry ??
And Dan = no humo[u]r whatsoever. Why keep reading this
stuff?
> > > Why don't you stop wasting our time with these inane pseudo-profound
> > > comments and quotes?
> >
> > Because I have a compulsion, and a Mystic Responsibility (tm)
> > to make everyone else seem relevant by comparison. It's
> > working.
> >
> For sure, so it looks like I either skip all your posts to avoid
> drivel
That's the ticket!
> and miss anything intelligent you might have to say,
Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'.
> or I
> continue to read them all and get my brain numbed.
My, oh, my. You just hit a home run.
Them's exackatickly the choices. Whatcha gonna do?
/* dan: THE Anti-Ged -- Ignorant Yank (tm) #1, none-%er #7 */
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~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~
The rumors and the stories of my past I can't deny. I'm no
St. Ignatius, but again, I'm no bar fly. -- Jimmy Buffett
Martin Sheil
Dan Nitschke (peDA...@best.com) wrote:
: Martin Sheil wrote:
: >
: > Dan Nitschke (peDA...@best.com) wrote:
: >
: > : I'm still working up to your level. I must leave
: > : myself *something* to aspire to.
: >
: > If you're trying to get to Adny's level, you're going in the wrong direction.
: I was heading toward Belgium. Is this wrong?
Depends on how you feel about the Belgians and, of course, which part of
Belgium you were heading for.
: > Martin.
: > UKMC miner
: Does that mean I'm contributing to the delinquency of
: a miner? Kewl.
Most people think I don't need any help with my deliquency.
Martin
UKMC rogue traveller
Martin Sheil
: > Depends on how you feel about the Belgians
: I'm totally blase'.
: > and, of course, which part of
: > Belgium you were heading for.
: I was following the NGG's directions. I suppose that means
: the part of Belgium I was heading for is in Yorkshire.
Ah, that'll be the Belgian quarter in Harrogate then.
: > : > UKMC miner
: >
: > : Does that mean I'm contributing to the delinquency of
: > : a miner? Kewl.
: >
: > Most people think I don't need any help with my deliquency.
: Your spelling, on the other hand...
Some things, need no help, some need some help, others are beyond any
help at all.
Martin
Windy
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:33:16 +0100, Mick Whittingham
<Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
<SNIP>
>Also he would, no doubt, have voided his bowls
>
So how did he do that? I thought they were solid wood
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(Go on! Take the p*** out of my e-mail address)
Dan Nitschke
>
> You mean you can keep your motorcycles *dry*?!?!?
There are no leaks in my garage (unlike Malcolm's
shed).
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Trevor Dennis
Mick Whittingham <Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> said
>Also he would, no doubt, have voided his bowls
Well I'd certainly avoid his bowls after a nasty scare like that.
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Ben Lovejoy
Mick Whittingham <Mi...@mjwc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Having mended an electronic flash gun on one occasion, I thought it
>prudent to check the main capacitor was discharged before I went
>further, by sliding an instrument screwdriver across the caps terminals.
>It remained fixed in my memory that after the load bang, the end of the
>screw driver had disappeared. The flash gun did not appear affected.
>
>What I'm saying is although the effect on the bike thief would be
>desirable, there would be the complications of disposing of the body.
The council here will collect up to 10 bin-bags full of 'garden or domestic
waste', but I guess this would require a chainsaw and be rather messy.
Also, they tell you to allow 7-10 days for collection - not too bad in
winter, but a bit smelly in summer.
Ben
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Martin Sheil
: >
: > : So are you suggesting we immerse our motorcycles in water to keep them
: > : safe?
: >
: > This could cause problems for fair weather riders.
: Fair weather riders? Speaking.
: You mean you can get motorcycles *wet*?!
You mean you can keep your motorcycles *dry*?!?!?
Martin
Dan Nitschke
>
>
> Depends on how you feel about the Belgians
I'm totally blase'.
> and, of course, which part of
> Belgium you were heading for.
I was following the NGG's directions. I suppose that means
the part of Belgium I was heading for is in Yorkshire.
> : > Martin.
> : > UKMC miner
>
> : Does that mean I'm contributing to the delinquency of
> : a miner? Kewl.
>
> Most people think I don't need any help with my deliquency.
Your spelling, on the other hand...
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Maybe I think too much for my own good. Some people say so;
other people say, "No, no. The fact is, you don't think as
much as you could." Hmm... -- Paul Simon, 'Think Too Much'
Dan Nitschke
Martin Sheil wrote:
>
> Maxine Wesley (maxine...@port.ac.uk) wrote:
>
> : So are you suggesting we immerse our motorcycles in water to keep them
> : safe?
>
> This could cause problems for fair weather riders.
Fair weather riders? Speaking.
You mean you can get motorcycles *wet*?!
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was a child. -- Paul Simon, "That's Why God Made the Movies"
Mick Whittingham
In article <3445bd17...@news.u-net.com>, Windy
<s...@urine.windfalls.u-net.com> writes
>>
>
>--
>~*~*~*~* " W I N D Y" *~*~*~*~
--
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FJ1200 ABS 'BOF #006'
Professional 'Old Fart'
Sol
After intense thought Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com> posted:
>> [1] Don't forget to play 'Find the misspell!"
>
>I got it! It's your inconsistent use of quotation
>marks!
... and the rest?
--
Sol
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(` @ @) Non illigitimum carburundum!
` .. Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum
\ ~ http://www.spirant.demon.co.uk/
"' Updated October 1997
Janice in Cuppochino
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:33:28 LOCAL, a...@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
wrote:
>>Is it your ambition to join every killfile in the known universe?
>
>At LAST. I knew he'd get the hang of it eventually.
Well. Teh great thing about ambition is that it's an unrealistically
ideal state.............................
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Paul M Hounslow
On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:23:36 -0700, Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com>
wrote:
>Sol wrote:
>>
>> After intense thought Dan Nitschke <peDA...@best.com> posted:
>>
>> [1]
>
>He did not. He'd never say something so small.
>
>> >I make it a point to keep my moons covered. Modesty
>> >über alles.
>>
>> Modesty over all others?
>
>Modesty over everything.
>
>> Don't the others mind?
>
>Trust me -- *nobody* minds if I overdo modesty. My
>ugliness knows no bounds. (Have we so soon forgotten
>that Dan is The Least Sexually-Attractive Being In
>The Known Universe (tm) ?)
Dan == Ged?
[...]
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"Isn't the Atlantic ocean a wonderful thing"
- Nick Hancock discussing US 'culture' with Ulrikakaka on Room 101
Chris Mac
Ged Martin wrote:
>
> On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:28:08 -0800, Rat scribbled:
>
> >Yeah, but remember he's also the Prince of Lies(tm).
> >
> >:)
>
> You keep out of this, you're biased.
>
> Right, I want all the women who find me sexually attractive to send me
> a email* now. I will post the results, and a brief synopsis of the
> received emails, if any, on this coming Friday.
>
> *Please include brief personal details such as age, salary and other
> vital statistics - these will be kept purely for research purposes
> only.
>
Wow, I hope you've got a good flak suit when you read your mail!
Steve Pegley
In article <34591157...@news.demon.co.uk>, Ged Martin
<g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:28:08 -0800, Rat scribbled:
>
>>Yeah, but remember he's also the Prince of Lies(tm).
>>
>>:)
>
>You keep out of this, you're biased.
>
>Right, I want all the women who find me sexually attractive to send me
>a email* now. I will post the results, and a brief synopsis of the
>received emails, if any, on this coming Friday.
>
>*Please include brief personal details such as age, salary and other
>vital statistics - these will be kept purely for research purposes
>only.
>
I suggest you keep it open for at least another couple of weeks. The
next edition of The Big Issue is not due out till then, so word will not
get round to your target audience in time.
--
Steve
BOF #007 (licenced to spill)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Still got the K100RS - Still like it.
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DGB
Ged Martin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:05:16 +0000, Steve Pegley scribbled:
>
> >I suggest you keep it open for at least another couple of weeks.
>
> I'll have you know I've already received several emails from women who
> think I'm sexually attractive, so there!!!!
>
> >The next edition of The Big Issue is not due out till then, so word will not
> >get round to your target audience in time.
>
>
Mind you all the women who replied were blind!
Stella J
Ged Martin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:05:16 +0000, Steve Pegley scribbled:
>
> >I suggest you keep it open for at least another couple of weeks.
>
> "Oh really?", he asked questioningly. Well, Mr Smartybottompantses,
> I'll have you know I've already received several emails from women who
> think I'm sexually attractive, so there!!!!
>
> >The next edition of The Big Issue is not due out till then, so word will not
> >get round to your target audience in time.
>
> You're not at all funny, you know.
>
physically attractive to be sexually attractive.
But, I'd still like to seesome pics other than the one showing off your
cool looking undies! Where do I go to see more?
Dan Nitschke
Loretta Martin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:05:16 +0000, Steve Pegley scribbled:
>
> >I suggest you keep it open for at least another couple of weeks.
>
> "Oh really?", he asked questioningly. Well, Mr Smartybottompantses,
> I'll have you know I've already received several emails from women who
> think I'm sexually attractive, so there!!!!
Sweet Loretta Martin _thought_ she was a woman, but she
was another man. All the girls around her say she's got
it coming, but she gets it while she can. Get back; get
back; get back to where you once belonged. Get back; get
back; get back to where you once belonged.
Get back Loretta. Go home.
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and I realized that this poor soul was more confused than me.
-- Eric Woolfson
Windy
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:30:32 GMT, g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk (Ged Martin)
wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:12:08 GMT, Paul M Hounslow scribbled:
>
>>Dan == Ged?
>
>While not wishing to blow my own trumpet in a public forum, I really
>must point out that I _am_ bloody sexually attractive to certain
>members of your species.
>
You're saying that you're attractive to the male members of the
species? Can I take a vote on that please?
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Windy
On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:59:22 GMT, g...@gmartin.demon.co.uk (Ged Martin)
wrote:
>
>Right, I want all the women who find me sexually attractive to send me
>a email* now. I will post the results
on the back of a postage stamp?:)
Windy
On 27 Oct 1997 18:29:52 -0800, wco...@pyrman2.mis.pyramid.com
(William Corona) wrote:
>
>Stunning logic, Ged! Here here!
>
William! If you insist on encouraging him I'm gonna have to have
serious words with you!:)
Steve Melander
Stella J wrote:
>
> Ged Martin wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:05:16 +0000, Steve Pegley scribbled:
> >
> > >I suggest you keep it open for at least another couple of weeks.
> >
> > "Oh really?", he asked questioningly. Well, Mr Smartybottompantses,
> > I'll have you know I've already received several emails from women
> > who think I'm sexually attractive, so there!!!!
Where! <looks around>
There, there goes Jeanie with here new boyfriend.
> >
> > >The next edition of The Big Issue is not due out till then, so
> > >word will not get round to your target audience in time.
> >
> > You're not at all funny, you know.
> >
> Speaking from a females point of view, a person does *not* have
> to be physically attractive to be sexually attractive.
So, wallet size counts, eh?
Steve (puts me *right* out of the picture) 65