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Klaatu

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:08:40 AM12/2/03
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How long will it take to remove ?

Not having aquired the manual yet, I am guessing at
a couple of hours. (1)

1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.

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flashgorman

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:13:43 AM12/2/03
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"Klaatu" <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> wrote in message
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> How long will it take to remove ?
>
> Not having aquired the manual yet, I am guessing at
> a couple of hours. (1)
>
> 1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
> a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.
>
Depends entirely upon the condition of the bike. You could quite easily
while away a couple of hours trying to remove a single salt corroded bolt.
My top tip would be label all loose wires so you stand a chance of
connecting them back again.


CT

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:30:44 AM12/2/03
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"Klaatu" <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> wrote in message
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> How long will it take to remove ?
>
> Not having aquired the manual yet, I am guessing at
> a couple of hours. (1)
>
> 1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
> a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.
>

Yep - two hours. This is how I see it panning out:

Mins Task
1-5: Put bike on lift and raise.
6-10: Have a beer.
11-12: Retune radio from static hiss to R4.
13-14: Turn on heater.
15-20: Have a beer.
21-30: Look at engine mounting bolts, take correct spanner/socket and
attempt to undo but fail.
31-40: Have two beers and fag (optional).
41-50: Take large hammer, bash corrided bolt repeatedly in attempt to
loosen.
51-55: Have a beer.
56-60: Attempt to undo but fail once again.
61-70: Have two beers and fag (optional).
71-75: Retune radio from boring R4 debate and attempt to find some
decent music. Fail.
76-85: Sit down by heater to contemplate next move. Have beer and fag
(optional).
86-95: Apply WD40 to all corroded bolt and wait. Have another beer.
96-100: Find large metal pole, slip over socket handle for more
leverage and attempt to undo bolt.
101-110: Jump up and down repeatedly on metal pole. Still no movment.
111-120: Have a beer and decide that it's easier to 'get a man in'.

HTH

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Chris

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Cab

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:38:04 AM12/2/03
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:13:43 -0000, "flashgorman"
<theflas...@hotmail.com> bored us all completely to death with
wittery prose along the lines of:

<prolly snipped>

Depends upon how fast he drinks the beer too.
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Klaatu

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:46:37 AM12/2/03
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>41-50: Take large hammer, bash corrided bolt repeatedly in attempt to
>loosen.
>51-55: Have a beer.
>56-60: Attempt to undo but fail once again.
>61-70: Have two beers and fag (optional).
>71-75: Retune radio from boring R4 debate and attempt to find some
>decent music. Fail.
>76-85: Sit down by heater to contemplate next move. Have beer and fag
>(optional).
>86-95: Apply WD40 to all corroded bolt and wait. Have another beer.
>96-100: Find large metal pole, slip over socket handle for more
>leverage and attempt to undo bolt.
>101-110: Jump up and down repeatedly on metal pole. Still no movment.
>111-120: Have a beer and decide that it's easier to 'get a man in'.
>
>HTH

Excellent !

Klaatu

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Dec 2, 2003, 6:48:39 AM12/2/03
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:41:12 +0000, dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:

> Klaatu <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> wrote:
>
>>How long will it take to remove ?
>>
>>Not having aquired the manual yet, I am guessing at
>>a couple of hours. (1)
>>
>>1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
>>a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.
>

>What's the alcohol content of the beer?

3. something. It's India Pale Ale

tallbloke

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Dec 2, 2003, 7:48:10 AM12/2/03
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Klaatu <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> spouted the following in
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Use the angle grinder to cut the bolt heads off, *before* you drink all
the beer

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Klaatu

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Dec 2, 2003, 8:01:46 AM12/2/03
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>>>What's the alcohol content of the beer?
>>
>> 3. something. It's India Pale Ale
>
>Use the angle grinder to cut the bolt heads off, *before* you drink all
>the beer

Yesh

WorkTOG

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Dec 2, 2003, 12:17:52 PM12/2/03
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"flashgorman" <theflas...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bqhs5e$21rp34$1...@ID-201048.news.uni-berlin.de>...

What I usually do is get some little pots of paint and put matching
paint dots on the two connectors to be rejoined.

Yes, I know, the loom is colour-coordinated, but you sometimes get
more than one (for example) green wire and occasionally the loom is so
grubby that it's hard to make out the colours anyway.

Klaatu

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Dec 2, 2003, 1:17:32 PM12/2/03
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On 2 Dec 2003 09:17:52 -0800, chateau...@btinternet.com (WorkTOG)
wrote:

Excellent idea.

For the FAQ/WebSite perhaps ?

sweller

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Dec 3, 2003, 11:52:22 AM12/3/03
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Klaatu wrote:

> > What I usually do is get some little pots of paint and put matching
> > paint dots on the two connectors to be rejoined.
> >
> > Yes, I know, the loom is colour-coordinated, but you sometimes get
> > more than one (for example) green wire and occasionally the loom is so
> > grubby that it's hard to make out the colours anyway.
>
> Excellent idea.


No it's not. IMNSHO, it's a fucking mad idea.

How many colours have you got and how long have you got to wait for all
the little dots of paint to to dry? I'll guarantee one won't and it'll
spread itself every where. And there's the problem of the paint wiping
off, which it will do on certain plastic connectors and oily covers.

If you're really worried about which wire goes where, little masking tape
'flags' is quicker, easier and cheaper.

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Simon

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sweller

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Dec 3, 2003, 11:56:31 AM12/3/03
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Klaatu wrote:

> 1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
> a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

IME this is a very bad and very expensive idea. Tea[1] before and
during, beer after.

[1] whatever

Ginge

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Dec 3, 2003, 12:07:55 PM12/3/03
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In article <bql4jv$236cu1$2...@ID-144385.news.uni-berlin.de>, sweller
says...

> Klaatu wrote:
>
> > 1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
> > a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> IME this is a very bad and very expensive idea. Tea[1] before and
> during, beer after.

And no heater, or radio - you'll work harder to stay warm, and get the
job done more quickly..

sweller

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Dec 3, 2003, 12:16:13 PM12/3/03
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Ginge wrote:

> > > 1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
> > > a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > IME this is a very bad and very expensive idea. Tea[1] before and
> > during, beer after.
>
> And no heater, or radio - you'll work harder to stay warm, and get the
> job done more quickly..

Some times I find the radio a distraction.

Radio 4 - I want to ram this screwdriver into someone's head. Dimbleby
and his fuckwit question time phone panel audience. Just because it's
spoken word radio doesn't make it any less Trisha you mindless hand
wringing liberal proud to be British retards.

Radio 3 schools programming can be a bit disturbing sometimes, but on the
whole safer.

CT

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Dec 3, 2003, 12:24:00 PM12/3/03
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"Ginge" <gingeSP...@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote in message

>
> And no heater, or radio - you'll work harder to stay warm, and get the
> job done more quickly..

Is that how you managed to get the SRX finished so quickly? :o)

Ginge

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Dec 3, 2003, 1:03:53 PM12/3/03
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In article <bql66k$23gk5b$1...@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de>, CT says...

> "Ginge" <gingeSP...@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote in message
> >
> > And no heater, or radio - you'll work harder to stay warm, and get the
> > job done more quickly..
>
> Is that how you managed to get the SRX finished so quickly? :o)

SZR you mean?

I've maybe spent 20 or so hours rebuilding the entire thing, but I've
spread the work over....hmm... a year... or two.

It runs fine, but I need to order a new float needle and valve.. and
forgot to do so *again* today.

Klaatu

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Dec 4, 2003, 6:26:15 AM12/4/03
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On 3 Dec 2003 17:16:13 GMT, "sweller" <n...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Ginge wrote:
>
>> > > 1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
>> > > a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.
>> >
>> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >
>> > IME this is a very bad and very expensive idea. Tea[1] before and
>> > during, beer after.
>>
>> And no heater, or radio - you'll work harder to stay warm, and get the
>> job done more quickly..
>
>Some times I find the radio a distraction.
>
>Radio 4 - I want to ram this screwdriver into someone's head. Dimbleby
>and his fuckwit question time phone panel audience. Just because it's
>spoken word radio doesn't make it any less Trisha you mindless hand
>wringing liberal proud to be British retards.

Steady on !

>Radio 3 schools programming can be a bit disturbing sometimes, but on the
>whole safer.

For Radio Fettling I go for Classic FM or R4. When R4 goes flat it
gets powered off.

Klaatu

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Dec 4, 2003, 6:30:37 AM12/4/03
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:07:55 -0000, Ginge
<gingeSP...@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote:

>In article <bql4jv$236cu1$2...@ID-144385.news.uni-berlin.de>, sweller
>says...
>> Klaatu wrote:
>>
>> > 1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
>> > a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> IME this is a very bad and very expensive idea. Tea[1] before and
>> during, beer after.

Actually garage is next to a a pub. The friendly (bike liking)
manager donates crates of beer that are a day or two out
of commission. Which is nice.

I tend to celebrate a days fettling with a beer or two, not during
work: Too many power tools to play with.

>And no heater, or radio - you'll work harder to stay warm, and get the
>job done more quickly..

Have you been outside in the UK in the last 36 hours ?

Ginge

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Dec 4, 2003, 6:42:23 AM12/4/03
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In article <se6usvc3b4i0ta7vd...@4ax.com>, Klaatu says...


> Have you been outside in the UK in the last 36 hours ?

Yes, I went out for 15 mins this morning, in a t shirt.


HTH.

sweller

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Dec 4, 2003, 7:00:12 AM12/4/03
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Ginge wrote:

> > Have you been outside in the UK in the last 36 hours ?
>
> Yes, I went out for 15 mins this morning, in a t shirt.

I had to take my jumper off in my, unheated, workshop about 9pm last
night.

Klaatu

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Dec 4, 2003, 9:15:42 AM12/4/03
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For a "jog" ?

Ginge

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Dec 4, 2003, 9:33:00 AM12/4/03
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In article <fagusvo27ql1kemfo...@4ax.com>, Klaatu says...

> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:42:23 -0000, Ginge
> <gingeSP...@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >In article <se6usvc3b4i0ta7vd...@4ax.com>, Klaatu says...
> >
> >> Have you been outside in the UK in the last 36 hours ?
> >
> >Yes, I went out for 15 mins this morning, in a t shirt.
>
> For a "jog" ?

No. I don't do jogging.

I went out to post something.

Klaatu

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Dec 18, 2003, 6:20:43 AM12/18/03
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:13:43 -0000, "flashgorman"
<theflas...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Klaatu" <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> wrote in message
>news:kurosvca4armbjerq...@4ax.com...
>> How long will it take to remove ?
>>
>> Not having aquired the manual yet, I am guessing at
>> a couple of hours. (1)
>>
>> 1. In a well equipped garage. eg; bike lift, many good tools ,
>> a heater, a radio and two crates of beer.
>>
>Depends entirely upon the condition of the bike. You could quite easily
>while away a couple of hours trying to remove a single salt corroded bolt.

This turned out to be prophetic.

Fucking thing.


flashgorman

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Dec 18, 2003, 6:22:01 AM12/18/03
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"Klaatu" <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> wrote in message
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Anglegrinder YKIMS.


Klaatu

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Dec 18, 2003, 6:47:59 AM12/18/03
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:22:01 -0000, "flashgorman"
<theflas...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Depends entirely upon the condition of the bike. You could quite easily
>> >while away a couple of hours trying to remove a single salt corroded
>bolt.
>>
>> This turned out to be prophetic.
>>
>> Fucking thing.
>>
>Anglegrinder YKIMS.

This is looking like "a good idea"

The bolt in question is the one that holds the crankases together.

It goes through the frame and is seized solidly: Placing
a hydraulic engine jack at the rear of the engine and pushing the
engine up, turns the bolt 16th inch then lifts the whole bike up !

If the blowtorch doesn't do it then it gets cut out
and then some precision drilling will be performed.

All this and it isn't even my bike FFS !

Ever regretted agreeing to do someone a favour ?

Timo Geusch

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Dec 18, 2003, 6:55:20 AM12/18/03
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Klaatu was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

> This is looking like "a good idea"
>
> The bolt in question is the one that holds the crankases together.
>
> It goes through the frame and is seized solidly: Placing
> a hydraulic engine jack at the rear of the engine and pushing the
> engine up, turns the bolt 16th inch then lifts the whole bike up !
>
> If the blowtorch doesn't do it then it gets cut out
> and then some precision drilling will be performed.

Turn the blowtorch up as if you wanted to melt the engine case...

> All this and it isn't even my bike FFS !
>
> Ever regretted agreeing to do someone a favour ?

Often enough.
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tallbloke

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Dec 18, 2003, 3:13:17 PM12/18/03
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Klaatu <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> spouted the following in
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> It goes through the frame and is seized solidly: Placing
> a hydraulic engine jack at the rear of the engine and pushing the
> engine up, turns the bolt 16th inch then lifts the whole bike up !

Split the nut. With a *sharp* chisel.

HTH

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Klaatu

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Dec 22, 2003, 8:07:36 AM12/22/03
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Can't : It's recessed inside the Aluminium frame.


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Klaatu

Pip

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Dec 22, 2003, 8:22:14 AM12/22/03
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:07:36 +0000, Klaatu <Kla...@NewPlanet.com>
wrote:

Drill the head off the fucker then drift it out.

It's time to get technical on it.

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Klaatu

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Dec 22, 2003, 8:34:38 AM12/22/03
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:22:14 +0000, Pip <p...@ukrm.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:07:36 +0000, Klaatu <Kla...@NewPlanet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 18 Dec 2003 20:13:17 GMT, tallbloke <r...@tallARSEDbloke.net> wrote:
>
>>>Split the nut. With a *sharp* chisel.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>
>>Can't : It's recessed inside the Aluminium frame.
>
>Drill the head off the fucker then drift it out.
>
>It's time to get technical on it.

THHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAACK !

As the

THHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAACK !

engine is fucked, (1)cos the dozy twat (2)ran it dry,

THHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAACK !

It doesn't matter, as long as the

THHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAACK !

frame is not damaged.

1. Big ends shot to pieces
2. A Courier.

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tallbloke

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Dec 22, 2003, 6:41:02 PM12/22/03
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Klaatu <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> spouted the following in
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> engine is fucked, (1)cos the dozy twat (2)ran it dry,
>
> THHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAACK !
>
> It doesn't matter, as long as the
>
> THHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAACK !
>
> frame is not damaged.
>

I hope thats the noise of you hitting the courier.

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Klaatu

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Jan 2, 2004, 4:16:26 AM1/2/04
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No, he had to leave the country.

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tallbloke

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Klaatu <Kla...@NewPlanet.com> spouted the following in
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>>> frame is not damaged.
>>>
>>
>>I hope thats the noise of you hitting the courier.
>
> No, he had to leave the country.

Long delivery job?

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