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Eiron

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May 27, 2008, 3:08:00 AM5/27/08
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guig wrote:
> How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for petrol
> and 123.9 for diesel. Took nearly £18 to fill a Bandit last night ....
> and the morons at the Exchequer have only deferred the 2p rise yet to
> come ... oh joy.

Tesco, Coventry, Saturday was 114.9 and 125.9. Where did you fill up?

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Hog

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May 27, 2008, 4:25:34 AM5/27/08
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sweller wrote:
> guig wrote:
>
>> How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for
>> petrol and 123.9 for diesel. Took nearly £18 to fill a Bandit last
>> night .... and the morons at the Exchequer have only deferred the 2p
>> rise yet to come ... oh joy.
>
> Why is it moronic to defer a tax rise designed to change usage,
> currently unnecessary given the high price of oil?

They could scratch the entire idea?
More importantly they could take the net level of taxes gained from fuel
back to the level of 12 months ago.

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ogden

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May 27, 2008, 5:22:54 AM5/27/08
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guig wrote:
>
> How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for petrol
> and 123.9 for diesel. Took nearly £18 to fill a Bandit last night ....
> and the morons at the Exchequer have only deferred the 2p rise yet to
> come ... oh joy.

116.9 for regular unleaded the other day in Surrey. Diesel's been over
130p for a while.

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Gazz

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May 27, 2008, 5:38:40 AM5/27/08
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"ogden" <og...@pre.org> wrote in message news:483BD2EE...@pre.org...

> guig wrote:
>>
>> How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for petrol
>> and 123.9 for diesel. Took nearly £18 to fill a Bandit last night ....
>> and the morons at the Exchequer have only deferred the 2p rise yet to
>> come ... oh joy.

i pay 108.9 for petrol, but that petrol station has just changed to a BP
station, so expecting it to be around 1.30 a litre when i next go there.

Havenet filled the van up with diesel since i got back from germany, so it's
still got the 99 cents a litre bio-diesel in the tanks,

Seen 1.25.9 for petrol and 1.36.9 for diesel near me tho, it's one of those
shitty little independant garages that should have been buldozed decades
ago, still got the 1970's style pumps, so they've made their money on the
equipment, and are now just ripping everyone off, but then again, if people
checked out petrolprices website, they'd see the place i fill up for 108.9
about 4 miles away.

Simian

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May 27, 2008, 6:12:45 AM5/27/08
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Hog wrote:

> sweller wrote:
> > guig wrote:
> >
> > > How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for

> > > petrol and 123.9 for diesel. Took nearly #18 to fill a Bandit last


> > > night .... and the morons at the Exchequer have only deferred the
> > > 2p rise yet to come ... oh joy.
> >
> > Why is it moronic to defer a tax rise designed to change usage,
> > currently unnecessary given the high price of oil?
>
> They could scratch the entire idea?
> More importantly they could take the net level of taxes gained from
> fuel back to the level of 12 months ago.

Oh for goodness sake! Gordon's already had to borrow 2.7 billion to buy
off his back benchers over the budget[1], where's he going to find the
cash to make up for lowering fuel duty/vat?


[1] "Borrowing to fund investment in the future, because I won't have
one unless I do" as Brown might have said.

Hog

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May 27, 2008, 6:25:37 AM5/27/08
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Look at it like this.
They already spend WAY too much fucking money.

I didn't suggest lowering it, but putting receipts back where they were.
If they need more money they should have to admit they are fucking
useless and raise income tax and corporation tax. Taxes right up where
people can see and understand them and vote accordingly.

Buzby

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May 27, 2008, 7:48:47 AM5/27/08
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Gazz wibbled:

Diesel £1.34/l on the A40 yesterday just outside Cheltenham

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Switters

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May 27, 2008, 9:07:25 AM5/27/08
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 07:01:57 GMT, guig <gu...@yerawathame.com> allegedly
wrote:

> How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for petrol
> and 123.9 for diesel.

Yesterday I would have said the same price. Last Thursday it went up from
110.9, and today it went up again to 112.9. I'm pretty sure that only
last month I was still paying 98.9p.

Elly

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May 27, 2008, 9:22:53 AM5/27/08
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:01:57 +0100, guig <gu...@yerawathame.com> wrote:

>How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for petrol

>and 123.9 for diesel. Took nearly £18 to fill a Bandit last night ....
>and the morons at the Exchequer have only deferred the 2p rise yet to
>come ... oh joy.

117.9 for unleaded and 128.9 for diesel here in Flitwick - now costs
over £40 to fill my little Clio up.

18th May we were paying 111.9, 19th it went up to 115.9 and the recent
rise to 117.9 about 3 days ago. It's not been uncommon to have daily
price rises.

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Buzby

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May 27, 2008, 10:12:18 AM5/27/08
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Snowleopard wibbled:

> On 27 May 2008 11:48:47 GMT, "Buzby" <g...@pumpupthe.net> said
>
> > Gazz wibbled:


> >
> >> Seen 1.25.9 for petrol and 1.36.9 for diesel near me tho, it's one
> of >> those shitty little independant garages that should have been
> >> buldozed decades ago, still got the 1970's style pumps, so they've
> >> made their money on the equipment, and are now just ripping
> everyone >> off, but then again, if people checked out petrolprices
> website, >> they'd see the place i fill up for 108.9 about 4 miles
> away.
> >
> > Diesel £1.34/l on the A40 yesterday just outside Cheltenham
>

> Which way?
>
> Big queues at Waitrose again this morning - they're stil 122.9/l
> diesel but Tesco now up to 124.9/l.

Towards Witney

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BGN

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May 27, 2008, 4:52:10 PM5/27/08
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:01:57 +0100, guig <gu...@yerawathame.com> wrote:

>How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for petrol
>and 123.9 for diesel. Took nearly £18 to fill a Bandit last night ....
>and the morons at the Exchequer have only deferred the 2p rise yet to
>come ... oh joy.

I paid 117.9p per litre last week at my local last week for regular
unleaded.
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May 28, 2008, 2:36:57 AM5/28/08
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 07:20:40 +0100, dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:

>>>>> Why is it moronic to defer a tax rise designed to change usage,
>>>>> currently unnecessary given the high price of oil?
>>>>

>>>> My point is that it is moronic to only defer and not cancel the
>>>> increase completely.
>>>
>>> Why? If/when oil prices come down there is still the need for the usage
>>> to change, so the tax increase is just as valid.
>>
>>The annual petrol duty increases are not about change of usage but
>>revenue generation and since the price of petrol is so high the revenue
>>generated is high also but they still insist on smacking more pain on
>>travellers.
>
>Rubbish. Sure the revenue is a useful benefit but taxation is the only
>tool (besides limiting road capacity and direct primary legislation on
>usage) that's available to moderate people's use of fuel.
>
>And it's working too:
>- Tog's bought a scooter...
>- I'm using my daughter's corsa rather than my BMW for short journeys

And mum's X-Reg Ford Escrote 1.6 gets a better MPG than my '04 Triumph
Tiger.

CT

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May 28, 2008, 4:13:28 AM5/28/08
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dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:

> Rubbish. Sure the revenue is a useful benefit but taxation is the
> only tool (besides limiting road capacity and direct primary
> legislation on usage) that's available to moderate people's use of
> fuel.

I haven't seen much of a decrease in traffic over the past year when
fuel has gone up by >30p/litre, so why will another 2p make any
difference?

If anything, the rising costs have proven that 2p/litre fuel duty
*won't* make much difference and whilst the original idea seemed sound,
it is now purely going to be a revenue generator.

> And it's working too:
> - Tog's bought a scooter...
> - I'm using my daughter's corsa rather than my BMW for short journeys

OK - it's a start, I suppose!

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Hog

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May 28, 2008, 6:20:11 AM5/28/08
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dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
> guig <gu...@yerawathame.com> wrote in message
> <2008052807160416807-guig@yerawathamecom>:
>
>> On 2008-05-28 04:38:28 +0100, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>> said:

>>
>>> guig wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Why is it moronic to defer a tax rise designed to change usage,
>>>>> currently unnecessary given the high price of oil?
>>>>
>>>> My point is that it is moronic to only defer and not cancel the
>>>> increase completely.
>>>
>>> Why? If/when oil prices come down there is still the need for the
>>> usage to change, so the tax increase is just as valid.
>>
>> The annual petrol duty increases are not about change of usage but
>> revenue generation and since the price of petrol is so high the
>> revenue generated is high also but they still insist on smacking
>> more pain on travellers.
>
> Rubbish. Sure the revenue is a useful benefit but taxation is the
> only tool (besides limiting road capacity and direct primary
> legislation on usage) that's available to moderate people's use of
> fuel.
>
> And it's working too:
> - Tog's bought a scooter...
> - I'm using my daughter's corsa rather than my BMW for short journeys

Woa there boy. We actually have no need to limit our consumption of oil
for transport. The world has vast reserves of oil. Current theory is
that new reserves may form too. The only issue we have is the use of
fossil fuels for power generation and the various forms of pollution
that generates. If all countries are prevented from generating thus we
and people in the developing world can travel freely, albeit we should
use efficient and clean internal combustion technology.

Yes we should eventually move to a hydrogen fuel cell based world
however that requires another 25-50 years of development of both the end
user technology and the nuclear/tidal/solar generating capacity to crack
the H2O.

Some things, aviation in particular, requiring high performing fuels can
and should always use fuels with very high specific energy. We can grow
the basic feedstock for that.

Colin Irvine

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May 28, 2008, 6:29:35 AM5/28/08
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:20:11 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
squeezed out the following:

>dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:

>> Rubbish. Sure the revenue is a useful benefit but taxation is the
>> only tool (besides limiting road capacity and direct primary
>> legislation on usage) that's available to moderate people's use of
>> fuel.
>>
>> And it's working too:
>> - Tog's bought a scooter...
>> - I'm using my daughter's corsa rather than my BMW for short journeys
>
>Woa there boy. We actually have no need to limit our consumption of oil
>for transport. The world has vast reserves of oil.

... which are getting increasingly difficult and environmentally
unfriendly to extract. The need to limit our consumption of oil for
whatever purpose is as great as it's ever been.

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Hog

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May 28, 2008, 6:52:01 AM5/28/08
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It's just not true. Huge reserves of oil exist which can be extracted at
around $30/barrel and vast reserves at $50/barrel. Take power
generation out of the equation and our consumption is completely
manageable.

Electricity generation by gas, oil and coal is the absolute global
bogeyman dwarfing all other problems combined.
Try this for size
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1257890,00.html

and remember that closure of just 150 generating stations around the
world would exceed our global CO2 targets and put levels into remission
(if indeed that matters). That means with a will we could completely
wipe out the problem in what? 15 years. 5 years planning, 8 years
construction and 2 years commissioning.

It required the termination of all proposed new build plans too
obviously.

So just mull that over for a few minutes. in 15 years, say 20 to allow 5
years of political bickering, global pollution, excessive fossil fuel
consumption and CO2 production could be transformed to beyond
sustainable levels.

IMHO the environmental campaigners, who are in part luddites and in part
self serving are 50% of the problem, sharing space with the oil
companies.

Colin Irvine

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May 28, 2008, 7:22:33 AM5/28/08
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:52:01 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
squeezed out the following:

>Colin Irvine wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:20:11 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
>> squeezed out the following:
>>
>>> dead...@burnt.org.uk wrote:
>>
>>>> Rubbish. Sure the revenue is a useful benefit but taxation is the
>>>> only tool (besides limiting road capacity and direct primary
>>>> legislation on usage) that's available to moderate people's use of
>>>> fuel.
>>>>
>>>> And it's working too:
>>>> - Tog's bought a scooter...
>>>> - I'm using my daughter's corsa rather than my BMW for short
>>>> journeys
>>>
>>> Woa there boy. We actually have no need to limit our consumption of
>>> oil for transport. The world has vast reserves of oil.
>>
>> ... which are getting increasingly difficult and environmentally
>> unfriendly to extract. The need to limit our consumption of oil for
>> whatever purpose is as great as it's ever been.
>
>It's just not true. Huge reserves of oil exist which can be extracted at
>around $30/barrel and vast reserves at $50/barrel.

I'm not arguing about the cost.

>Take power
>generation out of the equation and our consumption is completely
>manageable.

We need power more than we need transport.

ogden

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May 28, 2008, 7:32:32 AM5/28/08
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Elly wrote:
>
> 18th May we were paying 111.9, 19th it went up to 115.9 and the recent
> rise to 117.9 about 3 days ago. It's not been uncommon to have daily
> price rises.

I'm going to move somewhere that has lower inflation. Zimbabwe, maybe.

Hog

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May 28, 2008, 7:32:51 AM5/28/08
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Erm <shakes head> we can easily re-engineer power with current
technology. There is no (non luddite) replacement for personal mobility.

If you took 25% of the vehicles in the world off the road it wouldn't
make a jot of difference. 150 power stations would make *all* the
difference and in reality it should be a process of removing well over a
1000 of them in 20 years and all of the dirty plant within 40. Bingo,
people have the facility to move freely and the world settles down to a
sustainable clean cycle. Well once we cut the global population in half
that is. To which end I found an old cup which may contain the *answer*.

Colin Irvine

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On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:32:51 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
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>To which end I found an old cup which may contain the *answer*.

I think at this point I'm going to fold.

Hog

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May 28, 2008, 7:39:40 AM5/28/08
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Colin Irvine wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:32:51 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
> squeezed out the following:
>
>> To which end I found an old cup which may contain the *answer*.
>
> I think at this point I'm going to fold.

It's between me and the only door now.......

CT

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May 28, 2008, 8:33:40 AM5/28/08
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Hog wrote:

> and remember that closure of just 150 generating stations around the
> world would exceed our global CO2 targets and put levels into
> remission (if indeed that matters). That means with a will we could
> completely wipe out the problem in what? 15 years. 5 years planning,
> 8 years construction and 2 years commissioning.

It appears we've already started:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/may/28/britishenergygroupbusiness

Where's Bonwick at the moment?
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Hog

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May 28, 2008, 8:57:18 AM5/28/08
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Oh *lovely*

Gazz

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May 28, 2008, 10:39:59 AM5/28/08
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"Gazz" <n...@spam.ta> wrote in message
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>
> "ogden" <og...@pre.org> wrote in message news:483BD2EE...@pre.org...
>> guig wrote:
>>>
>>> How much are you guys paying for your petrol? We're at 111.9 for petrol
>>> and 123.9 for diesel. Took nearly £18 to fill a Bandit last night ....
>>> and the morons at the Exchequer have only deferred the 2p rise yet to
>>> come ... oh joy.
>
> i pay 108.9 for petrol, but that petrol station has just changed to a BP
> station, so expecting it to be around 1.30 a litre when i next go there.

Just got the petrolprices e-mail through today, and my formerly cheap petrol
station that's now a bastard BP station is now 1.13 a litre, fucking cunts,
it's a supermarket petrol station, they change fuel brands every year it
seems,
i'll ride out to derby an fill at 1.11 at the wallmart instead, and fuck my
carbon footprint bollox thingy,

an i know i'll burn the savings in the price on the way there and back, but
i dont care, it's about numbers innit.

i'm amazed those numberplates that blank out when power is removed arent
selling like hot cakes, it's an lcd jobbie that goes over the actual plate,
when powers applied it's clear, take power away and it goes all black..
surely wouldent be too hard to make it display a different reg number out of
the lcd bits, say one belonging to gordon brown, then we all just stop
paying for petrol :)

Grimly Curmudgeon

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May 28, 2008, 11:50:45 AM5/28/08
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "CT" <m...@christrollen.co.uk> saying
something like:

That emergency genset catching fire is fucking typical, that is. Health
Boards and other public bodies have been howking out gensets and
skimping on maintenance for years. It used to be that a horspittle
genset would be run up every month to check for things like that.
Apparently it was a blocked exhaust pipe - how fucking basic is that?

>Where's Bonwick at the moment?

Throwing a spammer in the works.
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How much more suspenseful can you get?"
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May 28, 2008, 1:31:54 PM5/28/08
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:32:51 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
wrote:

>Colin Irvine wrote:

snip>

>> We need power more than we need transport.
>
>Erm <shakes head> we can easily re-engineer power with current
>technology. There is no (non luddite) replacement for personal mobility.
>
>If you took 25% of the vehicles in the world off the road it wouldn't
>make a jot of difference. 150 power stations would make *all* the
>difference and in reality it should be a process of removing well over a
>1000 of them in 20 years and all of the dirty plant within 40. Bingo,
>people have the facility to move freely and the world settles down to a
>sustainable clean cycle. Well once we cut the global population in half
>that is. To which end I found an old cup which may contain the *answer*.

Are you suggesting that we should hand over the technology for
building nuclear power stations to any 3rd World country that asks for
it or should that be kept for those that already have it and the rest
can sit in the dark?

Once you've solved that one then start on the idea of where the spent
fuel goes because we can't process it fast enough as things are now
without adding to the problem.

Andy Bonwick

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May 28, 2008, 1:33:35 PM5/28/08
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Fixing a nuclear submarine.

AndrewR

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> On 28 May 2008 12:33:40 GMT, "CT" <m...@christrollen.co.uk> wrote:

>>Where's Bonwick at the moment?
>
> Fixing a nuclear submarine.

CIHAGM?

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On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:52:22 +0100, "AndrewR"
<and...@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>"Andy Bonwick" <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
>news:ko5r3494v03ghftnr...@4ax.com...
>> On 28 May 2008 12:33:40 GMT, "CT" <m...@christrollen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>Where's Bonwick at the moment?
>>
>> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
>
>CIHAGM?

When can you start? We're having a right struggle getting blokes at
the moment so as long as you pass the security checks you've got a
job.

AndrewR

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Oh, right, I just meant take it for a run around the block to see how fast
it goes.

Still, in for a penny. I used to have Cabinet Office security clearance to
top secret level, so that's probably good enough on that front and, this
weekend, I got all of the bodywork[1] off my 6R all by myself[2].

I've got my own hammer as well.

[1] Except the front mudguard, where one of the screws was too tight.
[2] Admittedly I've got plenty of experience of getting the bodywork off
6Rs, but this was a more controlled deconstruction than is usual for me.

Eddie

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AndrewR wrote:
> "Andy Bonwick" <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
>
> CIHAGM?

With *your* reputation?

You'd fit right in!

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Andy Bonwick wrote:

Sign me up then, what's the money like?

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Lozzo wrote:
> Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:52:22 +0100, "AndrewR"
>> <and...@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Andy Bonwick" <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:ko5r3494v03ghftnr...@4ax.com...
>>>> On 28 May 2008 12:33:40 GMT, "CT" <m...@christrollen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Where's Bonwick at the moment?
>>>>
>>>> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
>>>
>>> CIHAGM?
>>
>> When can you start? We're having a right struggle getting blokes at
>> the moment so as long as you pass the security checks you've got a
>> job.
>
> Sign me up then, what's the money like?

Sounds like fun. I might be up for some of that.

ginge

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On 28 May 2008 19:40:57 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>
>Sign me up then, what's the money like?

It's got a picture of the queen on one side, and a big nosed chap on
other.

steve auvache

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<mono...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes

Could be lots of fun. How long to get one of those into French
Territorial Waters?


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On 28 May 2008 19:40:57 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

>Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:52:22 +0100, "AndrewR"
>> <and...@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >"Andy Bonwick" <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:ko5r3494v03ghftnr...@4ax.com...
>> >> On 28 May 2008 12:33:40 GMT, "CT" <m...@christrollen.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Where's Bonwick at the moment?
>> > >
>> >> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
>> >
>> > CIHAGM?
>>
>> When can you start? We're having a right struggle getting blokes at
>> the moment so as long as you pass the security checks you've got a
>> job.
>
>Sign me up then, what's the money like?

About Ł40k plus company van and expenses for a tech if you work a
moderate amount of overtime.

Whatever you fancy earning if you're the boss but I've got that one
stitched up.

The truth is that we just can't get people with good mechanical
engineering experience who are both capable of doing the work and
willing to be away 4 nights per week. It's also surprising how many
people fail the security checks for failure to disclose even though
they'd have passed if they'd admitted to their sins.

Andy Bonwick

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May 28, 2008, 4:21:25 PM5/28/08
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You'd want me as your boss? Idiot.

platypus

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May 28, 2008, 4:31:39 PM5/28/08
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Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 19:45:32 GMT, "platypus"
> <mono...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Lozzo wrote:
>>> Andy Bonwick wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 May 2008 18:52:22 +0100, "AndrewR"
>>>> <and...@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Andy Bonwick" <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ko5r3494v03ghftnr...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On 28 May 2008 12:33:40 GMT, "CT" <m...@christrollen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where's Bonwick at the moment?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
>>>>>
>>>>> CIHAGM?
>>>>
>>>> When can you start? We're having a right struggle getting blokes at
>>>> the moment so as long as you pass the security checks you've got a
>>>> job.
>>>
>>> Sign me up then, what's the money like?
>>
>> Sounds like fun. I might be up for some of that.
>
> You'd want me as your boss? Idiot.

You wouldn't be the worst boss I'd had. I used to be a pit pony, you know.

Grimly Curmudgeon

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May 28, 2008, 4:36:30 PM5/28/08
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Bonwick <nos...@bonwick.me.uk>
saying something like:

>>>>Where's Bonwick at the moment?
>>>
>>> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
>>
>>CIHAGM?
>
>When can you start? We're having a right struggle getting blokes at
>the moment so as long as you pass the security checks

Ah. That might be a problem on account of my MIwhatever dossier.

Hog

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May 28, 2008, 4:56:44 PM5/28/08
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Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:32:51 +0100, "Hog" <hog...@freenetCHIPS.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Colin Irvine wrote:
>
> snip>
>
>>> We need power more than we need transport.
>>
>> Erm <shakes head> we can easily re-engineer power with current
>> technology. There is no (non luddite) replacement for personal
>> mobility.
>>
>> If you took 25% of the vehicles in the world off the road it wouldn't
>> make a jot of difference. 150 power stations would make *all* the
>> difference and in reality it should be a process of removing well
>> over a 1000 of them in 20 years and all of the dirty plant within
>> 40. Bingo, people have the facility to move freely and the world
>> settles down to a sustainable clean cycle. Well once we cut the
>> global population in half that is. To which end I found an old cup
>> which may contain the *answer*.
>
> Are you suggesting that we should hand over the technology for
> building nuclear power stations to any 3rd World country that asks for
> it or should that be kept for those that already have it and the rest
> can sit in the dark?

No problem at all. Only 3 or 4 countries in the world should reprocess and
produce the fuel though.


>
> Once you've solved that one then start on the idea of where the spent
> fuel goes because we can't process it fast enough as things are now
> without adding to the problem.

Pah, waste isn't really an issue.

--
Hog
'03 ST4S '96 Bastard12 '89 R100RS '81 XS650 '78 RD400


Lozzo

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May 28, 2008, 5:28:22 PM5/28/08
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Andy Bonwick wrote:

> About Ł40k plus company van and expenses for a tech if you work a
> moderate amount of overtime.
>
> Whatever you fancy earning if you're the boss but I've got that one
> stitched up.
>
> The truth is that we just can't get people with good mechanical
> engineering experience who are both capable of doing the work and
> willing to be away 4 nights per week. It's also surprising how many
> people fail the security checks for failure to disclose even though
> they'd have passed if they'd admitted to their sins.

So you're looking for qualified engineers...rules me out then.

Lozzo

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May 28, 2008, 5:29:01 PM5/28/08
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Bonwick
> <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> saying something like:
>
> > > > > Where's Bonwick at the moment?
> > > >
> >>> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
> > >
> > > CIHAGM?
> >
> > When can you start? We're having a right struggle getting blokes at
> > the moment so as long as you pass the security checks
>
> Ah. That might be a problem on account of my MIwhatever dossier.

My security status is pretty good, I think.

Andy Bonwick

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May 29, 2008, 1:51:18 AM5/29/08
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On 28 May 2008 21:28:22 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

>Andy Bonwick wrote:
>
>> About £40k plus company van and expenses for a tech if you work a


>> moderate amount of overtime.
>>
>> Whatever you fancy earning if you're the boss but I've got that one
>> stitched up.
>>
>> The truth is that we just can't get people with good mechanical
>> engineering experience who are both capable of doing the work and
>> willing to be away 4 nights per week. It's also surprising how many
>> people fail the security checks for failure to disclose even though
>> they'd have passed if they'd admitted to their sins.
>
>So you're looking for qualified engineers...rules me out then.

We're not as bothered about qualifications as we are about being able
to do the work without direct supervision but without a decent
mechanical background (including working big machines) it's an uphill
struggle.

Andy Bonwick

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May 29, 2008, 1:51:47 AM5/29/08
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On 28 May 2008 21:29:01 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

>Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Bonwick
>> <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> saying something like:
>>
>> > > > > Where's Bonwick at the moment?
>> > > >
>> >>> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
>> > >
>> > > CIHAGM?
>> >
>> > When can you start? We're having a right struggle getting blokes at
>> > the moment so as long as you pass the security checks
>>
>> Ah. That might be a problem on account of my MIwhatever dossier.
>
>My security status is pretty good, I think.

You've mentioned something before that'd have them getting very
twitchy.

platypus

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May 29, 2008, 3:53:56 AM5/29/08
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Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On 28 May 2008 21:28:22 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Andy Bonwick wrote:
>>
>>> About Ł40k plus company van and expenses for a tech if you work a

>>> moderate amount of overtime.
>>>
>>> Whatever you fancy earning if you're the boss but I've got that one
>>> stitched up.
>>>
>>> The truth is that we just can't get people with good mechanical
>>> engineering experience who are both capable of doing the work and
>>> willing to be away 4 nights per week. It's also surprising how many
>>> people fail the security checks for failure to disclose even though
>>> they'd have passed if they'd admitted to their sins.
>>
>> So you're looking for qualified engineers...rules me out then.
>
> We're not as bothered about qualifications as we are about being able
> to do the work without direct supervision but without a decent
> mechanical background (including working big machines) it's an uphill
> struggle.

I've worked big machines. HP1000. Vax 11/780. Aspect 300R.

CT

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May 29, 2008, 4:02:44 AM5/29/08
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platypus wrote:

> Andy Bonwick wrote:
> >
> > We're not as bothered about qualifications as we are about being
> > able to do the work without direct supervision but without a decent
> > mechanical background (including working big machines) it's an
> > uphill struggle.
>
> I've worked big machines. HP1000. Vax 11/780. Aspect 300R.

I've worked at a reprocessing plant at Sellafield.[1]

[1] It wasn't actually built then, but I did help on the geo-physical
survey work.

--
Chris

platypus

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May 29, 2008, 4:14:09 AM5/29/08
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Geo-phys?

Ever appeared on Time Team?

CT

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May 29, 2008, 4:23:46 AM5/29/08
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platypus wrote:

> Geo-phys?
>
> Ever appeared on Time Team?

heh, no.

Did the Conwy Road tunnel though.

Somewhere I have a photo of a JCB (belonged to the local water board
IIRC) that fell into one of our craters[1] as it was negotiating the
estuary on the rising tide and the water covered the hole. The water
just made it to the top of the cab at high tide.

[1] Gelignite a go-go!
--
Chris

frag

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May 29, 2008, 7:23:03 AM5/29/08
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Andy Bonwick scribbled:

Mates with Semtex?

Nude pics of the ex?


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platypus

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May 29, 2008, 8:09:09 AM5/29/08
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frag wrote:
> Andy Bonwick scribbled:
>
>> On 28 May 2008 21:29:01 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>>>
>>>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
>> the >> drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Bonwick
>>>> <nos...@bonwick.me.uk> saying something like:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where's Bonwick at the moment?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fixing a nuclear submarine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CIHAGM?
>>>>>
>>>>> When can you start? We're having a right struggle getting blokes
>> at >> > the moment so as long as you pass the security checks
>>>>
>>>> Ah. That might be a problem on account of my MIwhatever dossier.
>>>
>>> My security status is pretty good, I think.
>>
>> You've mentioned something before that'd have them getting very
>> twitchy.
>
> Mates with Semtex?
>
> Nude pics of the ex?

Shagging policewomen?

Hog

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May 29, 2008, 8:41:53 AM5/29/08
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Likelihood of shagging the boss's wife?

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Hog
'06 ST4-S '03 ST4-S

Lozzo

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May 29, 2008, 11:10:44 AM5/29/08
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platypus wrote:

> Shagging policewomen?

And what's wrong with that?

I'm having dinner tonight with an extremely fit ex-virgin cabin crew
member who is now a police woman. Life is good :-)

Colin Irvine

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May 29, 2008, 12:00:38 PM5/29/08
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On 29 May 2008 15:10:44 GMT, "Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> squeezed out
the following:

>platypus wrote:
>
>> Shagging policewomen?
>
>And what's wrong with that?
>
>I'm having dinner tonight with an extremely fit ex-virgin cabin crew
>member

<g>

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BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

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