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YTC#1

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Apr 25, 2017, 5:51:20 AM4/25/17
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About to change the inner tubes on the Pegs.

As I don't have any paste, and can't see any on the Halfords site.

Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
Or should I gunge up some hand soap and use that ?

I have also heard the nice smelly stuff that comes in dispensers is usable.


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Simon Wilson

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Apr 25, 2017, 5:59:44 AM4/25/17
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On 25/04/2017 10:51, YTC#1 wrote:
> About to change the inner tubes on the Pegs.
>
> As I don't have any paste, and can't see any on the Halfords site.
>
> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
> Or should I gunge up some hand soap and use that ?
>
> I have also heard the nice smelly stuff that comes in dispensers is usable.
>
>

One ingredient in washing up liquid is salt so I wouldn't use that. No
idea what's in hand soap, the tyre stuff I've got does seem very soap-like.

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YTC#1

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Apr 25, 2017, 6:11:34 AM4/25/17
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Ehow recommend "body wash"
http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7165066_make-tire-lube.html

I know, I should have thought of this sooner :-(

Mark Roberts

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Apr 25, 2017, 6:12:55 AM4/25/17
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:51:42 +0100, YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>About to change the inner tubes on the Pegs.
>
>As I don't have any paste, and can't see any on the Halfords site.
>
>Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
>Or should I gunge up some hand soap and use that ?
>
>I have also heard the nice smelly stuff that comes in dispensers is usable.

Fairy liquid will rot your rim. :D
Hand soap will be less harmful but might hang about being slippery.
Tyre paste dries out and stops being a lubricant so you can get the
tyre on and then not have it trying to slide around later.
Nip round to a fitters shop and lob em a couple of quid for a egg cup
full. That'll be enough for a couple of tyres.

I have used wd40, washing up liquid, hand soap, silicon spray, water
and nothing.
But usually on dirt bike tyres that are worn out long before the
rubber gets degraded.
I do need new wheels as the alloy has corroded just because of water
sitting in the rim because of slack mousses.

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YTC#1

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Apr 25, 2017, 6:12:59 AM4/25/17
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On 25/04/2017 10:51, YTC#1 wrote:
> About to change the inner tubes on the Pegs.
>
> As I don't have any paste, and can't see any on the Halfords site.
>
> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
> Or should I gunge up some hand soap and use that ?
>
> I have also heard the nice smelly stuff that comes in dispensers is usable.
>
>

WD40 as an option is getting some hits.

YTC#1

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Apr 25, 2017, 6:16:29 AM4/25/17
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On 25/04/2017 11:12, Mark Roberts wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:51:42 +0100, YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> About to change the inner tubes on the Pegs.
>>
>> As I don't have any paste, and can't see any on the Halfords site.
>>
>> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
>> Or should I gunge up some hand soap and use that ?
>>
>> I have also heard the nice smelly stuff that comes in dispensers is usable.
>
> Fairy liquid will rot your rim. :D

Oo errr :-)

> Hand soap will be less harmful but might hang about being slippery.
> Tyre paste dries out and stops being a lubricant so you can get the
> tyre on and then not have it trying to slide around later.
Ta

> Nip round to a fitters shop and lob em a couple of quid for a egg cup
> full. That'll be enough for a couple of tyres.

This seems the best plan.......
>
> I have used wd40, washing up liquid, hand soap, silicon spray, water
> and nothing.
> But usually on dirt bike tyres that are worn out long before the
> rubber gets degraded.
> I do need new wheels as the alloy has corroded just because of water
> sitting in the rim because of slack mousses.
>



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Pete Fisher

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Apr 25, 2017, 6:20:04 AM4/25/17
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On 25/04/2017 10:59, Simon Wilson wrote:
I've used washing up liquid in an emergency (outside digs on Pahnd
Island). I'd guess liquid soap also contains sodium compounds, but
perhaps less, if any, NaCl. Getting in a lather using a hand might be
the best option.

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sweller

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Apr 25, 2017, 6:32:58 AM4/25/17
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YTC#1 wrote:

> About to change the inner tubes on the Pegs.
>
> As I don't have any paste, and can't see any on the Halfords site.
>
> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
> Or should I gunge up some hand soap and use that ?
>
> I have also heard the nice smelly stuff that comes in dispensers is
> usable.

Most Motor Factors will sell it - this is where I got my big tub.

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c...@openrd.netunix.com

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Apr 25, 2017, 6:37:48 AM4/25/17
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YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
> About to change the inner tubes on the Pegs.
>
> As I don't have any paste, and can't see any on the Halfords site.
>
> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
> Or should I gunge up some hand soap and use that ?
>
> I have also heard the nice smelly stuff that comes in dispensers is usable.

Just ask for tyre soap at any decent motor factor or search eBay.
Twelve quid for a 5Kg bucket including free delivery and a free brush.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131376018688

YTC#1

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Apr 25, 2017, 11:52:02 AM4/25/17
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On 25/04/2017 11:12, Mark Roberts wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:51:42 +0100, YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> About to change the inner tubes on the Pegs.
>>
>> As I don't have any paste, and can't see any on the Halfords site.
>>
>> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
>> Or should I gunge up some hand soap and use that ?
>>
>> I have also heard the nice smelly stuff that comes in dispensers is usable.
>
> Fairy liquid will rot your rim. :D
> Hand soap will be less harmful but might hang about being slippery.
> Tyre paste dries out and stops being a lubricant so you can get the
> tyre on and then not have it trying to slide around later.
> Nip round to a fitters shop and lob em a couple of quid for a egg cup
> full. That'll be enough for a couple of tyres.
>

Done.

Well, 1 bike.

Heidenhau are *very* tight fitting.

Just got to do my bike tomorrow. It has been 7 years since I did any of
this (not counting Kaz as that was Mike's bike and we had a local
helping us).

Benderthe.evilrobot

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Apr 25, 2017, 4:34:55 PM4/25/17
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"Simon Wilson" <siwi...@nodamnspamn.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You can buy a decent sized tub of powdered tyre chalk - its all I've ever
used.

It goes slimy when wet, so that's probably all tyre soap is anyway.


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Apr 25, 2017, 4:43:03 PM4/25/17
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<c...@openrd.netunix.com> wrote in message
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I've always used powdered tyre chalk.

The tyre place I ended up at told me they weren't qualified to fit
motorcycle tyres, they could sell me anything I needed but I'd have to do
the repairs myself.

Among the purchases was a tub of tyre chalk which I still have - that was so
long ago I can't remember the price.

The Older Gentleman

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Apr 27, 2017, 9:16:53 AM4/27/17
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YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:

> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?

It's always worked for me.


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YTC#1

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Apr 27, 2017, 10:30:48 AM4/27/17
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On 27/04/2017 14:16, The Older Gentleman wrote:
> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
>
> It's always worked for me.
>
>

But what about the tyres ?

Stephen Packer

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:31:43 PM4/27/17
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On Thursday, 27 April 2017 15:30:48 UTC+1, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 27/04/2017 14:16, The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
> >
> > It's always worked for me.
> >
> >
>
> But what about the tyres ?

I'd be more worried about the rim. Or the rubber slipping on the rim.

I don't really want to read that again. Wish I hadn't typed it.

The Older Gentleman

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Apr 27, 2017, 12:58:04 PM4/27/17
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Gneuine LOL.

YTC#1

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Apr 27, 2017, 1:31:54 PM4/27/17
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On 27/04/2017 17:58, The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Stephen Packer <stephen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 27 April 2017 15:30:48 UTC+1, YTC#1 wrote:
>>> On 27/04/2017 14:16, The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>>> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
>>>>
>>>> It's always worked for me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> But what about the tyres ?
>>
>> I'd be more worried about the rim. Or the rubber slipping on the rim.
>>
>> I don't really want to read that again. Wish I hadn't typed it.
>
> Gneuine LOL.
>
>

+1

c...@openrd.netunix.com

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Apr 27, 2017, 3:22:33 PM4/27/17
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The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
>
> It's always worked for me.

The salt in it rots the rims so dont do it on a keeper.

Salad Dodger

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Apr 27, 2017, 3:50:23 PM4/27/17
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:22:31 +0000 (UTC), <c...@openrd.netunix.com>
wrote:
There goes the last biscuit.
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YTC#1

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Apr 27, 2017, 4:00:48 PM4/27/17
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On 27/04/2017 20:48, Salad Dodger wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:22:31 +0000 (UTC), <c...@openrd.netunix.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
>>>
>>> It's always worked for me.
>>
>> The salt in it rots the rims so dont do it on a keeper.
>
> There goes the last biscuit.
>

Damn, I was going to have that one

The Older Gentleman

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Apr 27, 2017, 4:37:07 PM4/27/17
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I've used it for four decades, near enough, and not had a rotten rim
yet.

c...@openrd.netunix.com

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Apr 27, 2017, 6:04:11 PM4/27/17
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The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> <c...@openrd.netunix.com> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is washing up liquid still a good option ?
>> >
>> > It's always worked for me.
>>
>> The salt in it rots the rims so dont do it on a keeper.
>
> I've used it for four decades, near enough, and not had a rotten rim
> yet.

Washing up liquid contains a metric arseload of salt so I never let
it get near metal as a matter on prnciple.

Salad Dodger

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Apr 27, 2017, 6:18:29 PM4/27/17
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 22:04:10 +0000 (UTC), <c...@openrd.netunix.com>
You cutlery must be well manky.

http://www.careshop.co.uk/img/cms/PFL5.pdf

The Safety Data Sheet according to Regulation (EC) No. 453/2010,
doesn't mention salt at all.

SECTION 10: Stability and reactivity
10.1. Reactivity
No dangerous reactions known.
10.2. Chemical stability
Stable under normal conditions.
10.3. Possibility of hazardous reactions
Refer to section 10.1 on Reactivity.
10.4. Conditions to avoid
Not required for normal conditions of use.
10.5. Incompatible materials
Not applicable.
10.6. Hazardous decomposition products
None under normal use.

Also:

https://www.morebikes.co.uk/3729/can-clean-bike-fairy-washing-liquid/

Does washing-up liquid damage your vehicle? We asked Dr Bob Eden BSc
MSc PhD MICorr (Member of the Institute of Corrosion) for the truth:

“Washing up liquid does contain a ‘salt’ but this is the active
ingredient and should not be confused with road salt. There is
nothing in a washing-up liquid that will exacerbate corrosion –
there’s no sodium chloride salt to worry about. The issue regarding
corrosion is the ‘chloride’ bit of the salt. In ‘chloride nests’ at
the base of a corrosion pit, the chloride exists as hydrogen chloride,
which in damp conditions creates a solution of dilute hydrochloric
acid, and it’s this acid that does the damage. You need to avoid
‘chloride’ from any and all sources, e.g. seawater, road grit and fish
& chips (but not washing up liquid). When I wash my aluminium bodied
Lea Francis, a dash of Fairy is just fine…”

Apart from that, you're bang on the money.

As always.
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