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OT: There's got to be a H&S guideline that prevents amps from going up to 11 these days

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Timo Geusch

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Jul 5, 2008, 8:07:12 PM7/5/08
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Well either that or I'm getting old *and* deaf, but proper metal ain't as
loud as it used to be when I was a nipper. I mean, the concert ended
less than three hours ago and my hearing is back to normal already.

A nice afternoon/evening was spent at Twickenham Rugby Stadium, starting
with a little Goth music (Within Temptation, who I rate highly and they
didn't disappoint live, either) followed by some Septic noise I didn't much
care for (Avenging Sevenfold, sounded to me about as shite as the name
suggests and one of the guitarists seeming to moonlight at another gig
at the same time didn't help). Oh, and that was followed by a supposedly
popular British beat combo, Iron something or other...

I guess the latter were the reason that the gig was at a stadium, they
would've blown the fucking roof off pretty much any other venue. Good
thing there wasn't any roof in the way. And it's always kind of amusing
to hear several ten thousand voices drown out the singer. Off-key,
too...

Other than that, this sort of music seems to have become entertainment
for the whole family - the folks who, like me, went to this sort of gig
in the eighties are now bringing their kids. At least that gave me some
jailbait to ogle while the stage was rearranged between bands.

It's been a while since I've been to a proper larger outdoor gig with
multiple bands and it was quite interesting to see/hear that modern PA
systems still come with the "make the openers sound really shite"
buttons like they used to do in the eighties.
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Simian

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Jul 6, 2008, 3:14:45 AM7/6/08
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Timo Geusch wrote:

>
> Well either that or I'm getting old and deaf, but proper metal ain't


> as loud as it used to be when I was a nipper. I mean, the concert
> ended less than three hours ago and my hearing is back to normal
> already.

[snip]


> It's been a while since I've been to a proper larger outdoor gig with
> multiple bands and it was quite interesting to see/hear that modern PA
> systems still come with the "make the openers sound really shite"
> buttons like they used to do in the eighties.


Last gig I went to, the penultimate band kept setting off the dB
limiter, so their songs went QUIET BIT, loud bit, QUIET BIT, loud bit.

Really fucking annoying, actually.

I used to take ear plugs to gigs, being a bit sensitive to loud noises,
but these days it doesn't seem worth it - the crowd frequently seem to
drown out the band at anything big. Unfortunately I'm no longer young
and hip enough to know about small bands playing cosy venues.

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Timo Geusch

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Jul 6, 2008, 3:38:33 AM7/6/08
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"Simian" <simian@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> writes:

> Timo Geusch wrote:
>
>>
>> Well either that or I'm getting old and deaf, but proper metal ain't
>> as loud as it used to be when I was a nipper. I mean, the concert
>> ended less than three hours ago and my hearing is back to normal
>> already.
> [snip]
>> It's been a while since I've been to a proper larger outdoor gig with
>> multiple bands and it was quite interesting to see/hear that modern PA
>> systems still come with the "make the openers sound really shite"
>> buttons like they used to do in the eighties.
>
>
> Last gig I went to, the penultimate band kept setting off the dB
> limiter, so their songs went QUIET BIT, loud bit, QUIET BIT, loud bit.
>
> Really fucking annoying, actually.

That I can see. It would certainly annoy me.

> I used to take ear plugs to gigs, being a bit sensitive to loud noises,
> but these days it doesn't seem worth it - the crowd frequently seem to
> drown out the band at anything big.

Well, same here - as I did take the bike, I had earplugs on me anyway
"just in case". I put them in for a few minutes but it was pointless...

> Unfortunately I'm no longer young
> and hip enough to know about small bands playing cosy venues.

Who of us is?

Nige

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Jul 6, 2008, 4:51:09 AM7/6/08
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Dunno, we went to see the Foo Fighters last year & that was *very* fucking
loud indeed.

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Eddie

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Jul 6, 2008, 3:47:51 PM7/6/08
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Timo Geusch wrote:

> "Simian" <simian@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> writes:
>
>> Unfortunately I'm no longer young
>> and hip enough to know about small bands playing cosy venues.
>
> Who of us is?

Me!

Of bands I've seen recently-ish, I particularly remember Fu Manchu being
effing loud in a medium-ish venue.

Motorhead are playing the same place in November; that could *really* be
painful...

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CT

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Jul 7, 2008, 4:43:48 AM7/7/08
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Timo Geusch wrote:
> "Simian" <simian@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> writes:
>
> > Unfortunately I'm no longer young
> > and hip enough to know about small bands playing cosy venues.
>
> Who of us is?

*waves*

The last one was Elbow at Royal Festival Hall which was damned good and
next up is The Zutons at Somerset House. The best venue by far these
days is Brixton Academy, IMO.

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Phil Launchbury

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Jul 7, 2008, 10:44:22 AM7/7/08
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In article <rqydneqXpPt47e3V...@supernews.com>, Simian wrote:
>
> drown out the band at anything big. Unfortunately I'm no longer young
> and hip enough to know about small bands playing cosy venues.

Take up listening to Prog bands. They inevitably play small venues..

Phil

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Whinging Courier

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Jul 8, 2008, 2:47:32 AM7/8/08
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Eddie wrote:
> Timo Geusch wrote:
>> "Simian" <simian@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> writes:
>>
>>> Unfortunately I'm no longer young
>>> and hip enough to know about small bands playing cosy venues.
>> Who of us is?
>
> Me!
>
> Of bands I've seen recently-ish, I particularly remember Fu Manchu being
> effing loud in a medium-ish venue.
>
> Motorhead are playing the same place in November; that could *really* be
> painful...

*Waves*

I'll let you know, I'm going to see them in Hammersmith ;-)

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Eddie

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Jul 8, 2008, 4:10:18 AM7/8/08
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Whinging Courier wrote:

> Eddie wrote:
>>
>> Motorhead are playing the same place in November; that could *really*
>> be painful...
>
> *Waves*
>
> I'll let you know, I'm going to see them in Hammersmith ;-)

Hammersmith is *big*, though. Not in terms of modern arena-style venues,
granted, but certainly a lot bigger than where I'll be seeing them.

Oh, and for extra UST points: Saxon are supporting.

Champ

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Jul 8, 2008, 4:54:22 AM7/8/08
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:10:18 +0100, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:

>Whinging Courier wrote:
>> Eddie wrote:
>>>
>>> Motorhead are playing the same place in November; that could *really*
>>> be painful...
>>
>> *Waves*
>>
>> I'll let you know, I'm going to see them in Hammersmith ;-)
>
>Hammersmith is *big*, though. Not in terms of modern arena-style venues,
>granted, but certainly a lot bigger than where I'll be seeing them.
>
>Oh, and for extra UST points: Saxon are supporting.

Hmmm. How 'seventies' are Saxon, exactly?
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CT

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Jul 8, 2008, 5:55:41 AM7/8/08
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Champ wrote:

> Hmmm. How 'seventies' are Saxon, exactly?

They formed in 1976.

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Champ

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Jul 8, 2008, 6:10:31 AM7/8/08
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On 8 Jul 2008 09:55:41 GMT, "CT" <m...@christrollen.co.uk> wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> Hmmm. How 'seventies' are Saxon, exactly?
>
>They formed in 1976.

But no one heard of them until 1980, did they?

Still, I suppose that fits into the Neal Champion Cultural Decade
Definition as the seventies, all the same:

1960s: 1962 - 1972
1970s: 1973 - 1982
1980s: 1983 - 1992

Whinging Courier

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Jul 8, 2008, 7:29:35 AM7/8/08
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Eddie wrote:
> Whinging Courier wrote:
>> Eddie wrote:
>>> Motorhead are playing the same place in November; that could *really*
>>> be painful...
>> *Waves*
>>
>> I'll let you know, I'm going to see them in Hammersmith ;-)
>
> Hammersmith is *big*, though. Not in terms of modern arena-style venues,
> granted, but certainly a lot bigger than where I'll be seeing them.
>
> Oh, and for extra UST points: Saxon are supporting.

Saxon was the clincher.

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