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antonye

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May 24, 2006, 7:26:43 AM5/24/06
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http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/ghostrider/

(requires Apple Quicktime *spit*)

Starring Nicholas Cage with a wig recycled from Sean Connery's
wardrobe from You Only Live Twice, and lots of special effects.

Looks like that's another decent comic book ruined then.

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Veggie Dave

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May 24, 2006, 8:33:58 AM5/24/06
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antonye <ant...@ukrm.net> wrote the following literary masterpiece:

>http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/ghostrider/
>
>(requires Apple Quicktime *spit*)
>
>Starring Nicholas Cage

I think that's all we need to know. Apart from 8mm, everything he's been
in has been unmitigated shite.

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Krusty

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May 24, 2006, 8:44:59 AM5/24/06
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Veggie Dave wrote:

> antonye <ant...@ukrm.net> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
> > http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/ghostrider/
> >

> > (requires Apple Quicktime spit)


> >
> > Starring Nicholas Cage
>
> I think that's all we need to know. Apart from 8mm, everything he's
> been in has been unmitigated shite.

I thought Lord of War was good.

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antonye

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May 24, 2006, 8:54:43 AM5/24/06
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Veggie Dave wrote:
> antonye wrote the following literary masterpiece:

> >
> >Starring Nicholas Cage
>
> I think that's all we need to know. Apart from 8mm, everything he's been
> in has been unmitigated shite.

Must admit that I did let out a heavy sigh when I read that
he would be the star of the film a couple of years ago.

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Cane

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May 24, 2006, 9:03:20 AM5/24/06
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dwb wrote:

> It can't be any worse than Biker Boyz and what ever that other stupid
> bike movie released recently was called.

With the exception of Easy Rider there has never been a good motorcycle
based movie.

Krusty

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May 24, 2006, 9:13:09 AM5/24/06
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Cane wrote:

On Any Sunday.

darsy

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May 24, 2006, 9:17:55 AM5/24/06
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"Cane" <Cane...@gmail.com> wrote:

"Chopper Chicks in Zombie Town".

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Nicknoxx

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May 24, 2006, 9:16:44 AM5/24/06
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The Motorcycle Diaries?

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Vass

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May 24, 2006, 9:17:22 AM5/24/06
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"dwb" <parc_e...@crossdata.co.uk> wrote in message
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> It can't be any worse than Biker Boyz and what ever that other stupid
> bike movie released recently was called.

Torque
(someone just told me honest)
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Switters

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May 24, 2006, 9:30:41 AM5/24/06
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:16:44 GMT, Nicknoxx
<nick_remove_@sauce_andhere_fx.com> allegedly wrote:

> Cane wrote:


>> dwb wrote:
>>
>>>It can't be any worse than Biker Boyz and what ever that other stupid
>>>bike movie released recently was called.
>>
>>
>> With the exception of Easy Rider there has never been a good motorcycle
>> based movie.
>>
> The Motorcycle Diaries?

*ding* Excellent film.

Loz H

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May 24, 2006, 9:56:12 AM5/24/06
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Cane <Cane...@gmail.com> spewed forth the following...


> With the exception of Easy Rider there has never been a good
> motorcycle based movie.

I Bought a Vampire Motorcycle?

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ogden

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May 24, 2006, 10:41:41 AM5/24/06
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Psychomania (for some very very loose value of good)

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Mark Olson

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May 24, 2006, 10:53:07 AM5/24/06
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You know *nothing*.

"The Wild Angels" starring Peter Fonda, Bruce Dern, and Nancy Sinatra.

"We wanna be free! We wanna be free to do what we wanna do. We wanna
be free to ride. We wanna be free to ride our machines without being
hassled by The Man! ... And we wanna get loaded."

Excellent.

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ogden

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May 24, 2006, 11:25:47 AM5/24/06
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Mark Olson wrote:
>
> "The Wild Angels" starring Peter Fonda, Bruce Dern, and Nancy Sinatra.
>
> "We wanna be free! We wanna be free to do what we wanna do. We wanna
> be free to ride. We wanna be free to ride our machines without being
> hassled by The Man! ... And we wanna get loaded."

Ahh, is that where that sample's from? I always wondered.

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antonye

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May 24, 2006, 11:30:49 AM5/24/06
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Glad it wasn't just me that started humming to that!

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Alex Ferrier

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May 24, 2006, 2:02:17 PM5/24/06
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Can't beat a bit of good old Mudhoney.

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darsy

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May 24, 2006, 2:36:55 PM5/24/06
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"Alex Ferrier" <x@x.x> wrote:

>antonye wrote:
>>
>> ogden wrote:
>>> Mark Olson wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "The Wild Angels" starring Peter Fonda, Bruce Dern, and Nancy Sinatra.
>>> >
>>> > "We wanna be free! We wanna be free to do what we wanna do. We wanna
>>> > be free to ride. We wanna be free to ride our machines without being
>>> > hassled by The Man! ... And we wanna get loaded."
>>>
>>> Ahh, is that where that sample's from? I always wondered.
>>
>> Glad it wasn't just me that started humming to that!
>>
>
>Can't beat a bit of good old Mudhoney.

" "

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ogden

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May 24, 2006, 3:06:13 PM5/24/06
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Boggle-tastic.

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Beav

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May 24, 2006, 3:13:21 PM5/24/06
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"Cane" <Cane...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What?. You've obviously nver seen "Torque" then. Fantastic film full of
realism.

I got a film called "Chopper" as a gift once (don't we all get "biker bot"
films as gifts?). Anyway, eventually I decided to give it a watching only to
discover there wasn't a bike to be seen, but it was a very strangely
watchable piece of shite. Eric Bana was a better Chopper than he was a Hulk
anyroad.


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Beav

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May 24, 2006, 3:15:01 PM5/24/06
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"Alex Ferrier" <x@x.x> wrote in message
news:e5273d$4dl$1$8302...@news.demon.co.uk...

> antonye wrote:
>>
>> ogden wrote:
>>> Mark Olson wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "The Wild Angels" starring Peter Fonda, Bruce Dern, and Nancy Sinatra.
>>> >
>>> > "We wanna be free! We wanna be free to do what we wanna do. We wanna
>>> > be free to ride. We wanna be free to ride our machines without being
>>> > hassled by The Man! ... And we wanna get loaded."
>>>
>>> Ahh, is that where that sample's from? I always wondered.
>>
>> Glad it wasn't just me that started humming to that!
>>
>
> Can't beat a bit of good old Mudhoney.

You can if you've got a stick

sweller

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May 24, 2006, 4:00:25 PM5/24/06
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Cane wrote:

>
> With the exception of Easy Rider there has never been a good motorcycle
> based movie.

Yes there fucking well has. What's more I don't include easy rider as a
good motorcycle based movie.

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sweller

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May 24, 2006, 4:01:22 PM5/24/06
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Switters wrote:

> >> With the exception of Easy Rider there has never been a good
> motorcycle >> based movie.
> >>
> > The Motorcycle Diaries?
>

> ding Excellent film.

Agreed, but just because it has "Motorcycle" in the title does not
necessarily mean it's motorcycle based.

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Pete Fisher

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May 24, 2006, 4:15:22 PM5/24/06
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In message <1278sqj...@corp.supernews.com>, Mark Olson
<ols...@tiny.invalid> writes

>Cane <Cane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> dwb wrote:
>>
>> > > > antonye wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Starring Nicholas Cage
>> > > >
>> > > > I think that's all we need to know. Apart from 8mm, everything he's
>> > > > been in has been unmitigated shite.
>> > >
>> > > Must admit that I did let out a heavy sigh when I read that
>> > > he would be the star of the film a couple of years ago.
>> >
>> > It can't be any worse than Biker Boyz and what ever that other stupid
>> > bike movie released recently was called.
>>
>> With the exception of Easy Rider there has never been a good motorcycle
>> based movie.
>
>You know *nothing*.
>
>"The Wild Angels" starring Peter Fonda, Bruce Dern, and Nancy Sinatra.

"The Wild One" (1953) starring Marlon Brando and Lee Marvin? THE
motorcycle based movie. You can't really count "On Any Sunday" because
it's 'non-fiction'. Still haven't got to see "The World's Fastest
Indian" yet.

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Bear

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May 24, 2006, 4:27:26 PM5/24/06
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On 24 May 2006 20:00:25 GMT, sweller said ...

I find myself in total agreement with the leftie.

There's Little Fauss And Big Halsy, for a start ...

Easy Rider didn't exactly suck, but it's cringeworthy to watch unless
you're heavily herballed. And hearing or reading any interview with
either Hopper or Fonda about it since makes you want to reach for the 12
gauge Hillbilly Helper yourself ... I read some press release one of
them did for the launch of some godawful Hardly ER replica that made me
want to hunt them *both* down, just in case they'd got the name wrong.

I can forgive Hopper though, coz he was surreal in Flashback, a film I
try repeatedly to hate, but can't. Let the pisstaking begin.
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Champ

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May 24, 2006, 4:36:26 PM5/24/06
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"Aggression"

And it's French, too.


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Champ

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May 24, 2006, 4:39:54 PM5/24/06
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:33:58 +0100, Veggie Dave
<Veggie~Da...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>antonye <ant...@ukrm.net> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/ghostrider/
>>
>>(requires Apple Quicktime *spit*)
>>
>>Starring Nicholas Cage
>
>I think that's all we need to know. Apart from 8mm, everything he's been
>in has been unmitigated shite.

I'm sorry, but that's tosh. I had this very argument with Darsy
recently. Now, I'll be the first to admit that he's been in some
*terrible* films (ConAir, The Rock, Gone in 60 Seconds, etc), but the
following are excellent, imo:

Birdy
Raising Arizona
Moonstruck
Wild at Heart
Red Rock West
Leaving Las Vegas
Adaptation


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Grimly Curmudgeon

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May 24, 2006, 5:41:20 PM5/24/06
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Krusty"
<dontw...@nowhere.invalid> saying something like:

>> With the exception of Easy Rider there has never been a good
>> motorcycle based movie.
>
>On Any Sunday.

I Bought a Vampire Motorcycle.
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Veggie Dave

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May 24, 2006, 5:55:10 PM5/24/06
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Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:

>"Aggression"
>
>And it's French, too.

I guess it's this one? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072618/

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Veggie Dave

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May 24, 2006, 5:59:34 PM5/24/06
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Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:

>Birdy
>Raising Arizona
>Moonstruck
>Wild at Heart
>Red Rock West
>Leaving Las Vegas
>Adaptation

I keep writing huge critiques of his abilities, or lack of, then
deleting the lot and starting again. Fuck it. The bloke can't act. He
does one, and only one, character. Like all Hollywood stars, you either
like that one character or you don't.

Champ

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May 24, 2006, 6:29:16 PM5/24/06
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:55:10 +0100, Veggie Dave
<Veggie~Da...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>"Aggression"
>>
>>And it's French, too.
>
>I guess it's this one? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072618/

That's the one. I saw it decades ago, but it's stuck in my mind ever
since. The user comments here
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072618/usercomments match my memory
pretty well.
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Champ

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May 24, 2006, 6:33:40 PM5/24/06
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:59:34 +0100, Veggie Dave
<Veggie~Da...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>Birdy
>>Raising Arizona
>>Moonstruck
>>Wild at Heart
>>Red Rock West
>>Leaving Las Vegas
>>Adaptation
>
>I keep writing huge critiques of his abilities, or lack of, then
>deleting the lot and starting again. Fuck it. The bloke can't act. He
>does one, and only one, character. Like all Hollywood stars, you either
>like that one character or you don't.

I don't like to disagree with someone as agreeable as you, Dave, but
you're really wrong on this one. In Adaptation he plays his own
brother, FFS, and the whole point is that the brothers are utterly
different. The oscar he got for Leaving Las Vegas was a done deal
months before hand, because everyone knew it was easily the single
best piece of film acting that year, and Red Rock West is one of the
most enthralling thrillers I've seen.

Have you actually seen any of the films I've listed? Cos I agree that
in the shit blockbusters he makes, he does just play one standard
character. Like lots of Hollywood stars (cf Tom Cruise) he seems to
make big popcorn movies for the money, and then do smaller more
interesting ones for himself.
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Pete Fisher

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May 24, 2006, 6:57:13 PM5/24/06
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In message <qgn972d0v567695a9...@4ax.com>, Champ
<ne...@champ.org.uk> writes

Can we count moped (well sort of) based movies? If so I nominate Diva
1981 Jean-Jacques Beineix.

The Older Gentleman

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May 25, 2006, 2:40:34 AM5/25/06
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Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Krusty"
> <dontw...@nowhere.invalid> saying something like:
>
> >> With the exception of Easy Rider there has never been a good
> >> motorcycle based movie.
> >
> >On Any Sunday.
>
> I Bought a Vampire Motorcycle.

Made me laugh, that film did.


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darsy

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May 25, 2006, 3:11:43 AM5/25/06
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ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:

I can't begin to understand how he could have confused Primal Scream
with Mudhoney. The ways of the Ferrier are confused.

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Alex Ferrier

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May 25, 2006, 4:12:09 AM5/25/06
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darsy wrote:
>
> ogden wrote:
>
>>darsy wrote:

>>> Alex Ferrier wrote:
>>> >antonye wrote:
>>> >> ogden wrote:
>>> >>> Mark Olson wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > "The Wild Angels" starring Peter Fonda, Bruce Dern, and Nancy
>>> >>> > Sinatra.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > "We wanna be free! We wanna be free to do what we wanna do. We
>>> >>> > wanna
>>> >>> > be free to ride. We wanna be free to ride our machines without
>>> >>> > being
>>> >>> > hassled by The Man! ... And we wanna get loaded."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ahh, is that where that sample's from? I always wondered.
>>> >>
>>> >> Glad it wasn't just me that started humming to that!
>>> >
>>> >Can't beat a bit of good old Mudhoney.
>>>
>>> " "
>>
>>Boggle-tastic.
>
> I can't begin to understand how he could have confused Primal Scream
> with Mudhoney.

I didn't.

Mudhoney used that sample on a track called In 'N' Out of Grace, back
in 1988, two years before PS used it on Loaded.

HTH

darsy

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May 25, 2006, 5:21:33 AM5/25/06
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"Alex Ferrier" <x@x.x> wrote:

>darsy wrote:
>> I can't begin to understand how he could have confused Primal Scream
>> with Mudhoney.
>
>I didn't.
>
>Mudhoney used that sample on a track called In 'N' Out of Grace, back
>in 1988, two years before PS used it on Loaded.
>
>HTH

Oh, OK.

Mudhoney were rubbish, mind.

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Veggie Dave

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May 25, 2006, 8:32:14 AM5/25/06
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Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>I guess it's this one? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072618/
>
>That's the one. I saw it decades ago, but it's stuck in my mind ever
>since.

Sadly it doesn't appear to be available on DVD.

Veggie Dave

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May 25, 2006, 1:02:05 PM5/25/06
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Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>Have you actually seen any of the films I've listed?

Yep. And like I said, I like 8mm. But other than that I find him utterly
dreadful.

Champ

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May 25, 2006, 4:28:19 PM5/25/06
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 18:02:05 +0100, Veggie Dave
<Veggie~Da...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>Have you actually seen any of the films I've listed?
>
>Yep. And like I said, I like 8mm. But other than that I find him utterly
>dreadful.

oh. OK.
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Bear

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May 25, 2006, 4:38:34 PM5/25/06
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:28:19 +0100, Champ said ...

> On Thu, 25 May 2006 18:02:05 +0100, Veggie Dave
> <Veggie~Da...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> >Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
> >>Have you actually seen any of the films I've listed?
> >
> >Yep. And like I said, I like 8mm. But other than that I find him utterly
> >dreadful.
>
> oh. OK.

heh. I'd be somewhere in between the 2 of you [1], hating him in:

Moonstruck
Adaptation (Jesus, what a /minging/ job of "acting" that was ... it
finally cemented most critics as idiots in my eyes)

And quite liking him in:

Birdy (excellent job, possibly coz he wasn't that well known then, so
was trying harder, and hadn't settled into the "playing me" thing)
Raising Arizona
Wild at Heart
Leaving Las Vegas

... so, overall, not bad.

I even quite liked the comedic interplay between him and Connery in The
Rock, crap Hollywood action fare though it was. There's a sequence where
he's trying to explain something technical to Connery that's beautifully
underplayed.

Air Con is possibly one of the worst "action" films ever made, and once
again demonstrated to me that, should I ever get that Malkovich twat
down a dark alley, I'm going to kick the cunt out of him for what he's
made me sit through. Your days are numbered, Malkovich.

[1] yuk :(

Veggie Dave

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May 25, 2006, 4:47:40 PM5/25/06
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Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>Yep. And like I said, I like 8mm. But other than that I find him utterly
>>dreadful.
>
>oh. OK.

It's like any type of art - there's no right or wrong, just personal
taste.

Champ

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May 25, 2006, 5:22:37 PM5/25/06
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:38:34 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Air Con is possibly one of the worst "action" films ever made, and once
>again demonstrated to me that, should I ever get that Malkovich twat
>down a dark alley, I'm going to kick the cunt out of him for what he's
>made me sit through. Your days are numbered, Malkovich.

Hmm. Don't suppose you liked Dangerous Liaisons or Being John
Malkovich, did you?

Bear

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May 25, 2006, 5:28:20 PM5/25/06
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:22:37 +0100, Champ said ...

> On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:38:34 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Air Con is possibly one of the worst "action" films ever made, and once
> >again demonstrated to me that, should I ever get that Malkovich twat
> >down a dark alley, I'm going to kick the cunt out of him for what he's
> >made me sit through. Your days are numbered, Malkovich.
>
> Hmm. Don't suppose you liked Dangerous Liaisons or Being John
> Malkovich, did you?

Hated both. Especially BJM. The worst load of contrived, "look at us,
aren't we clever, come see what we have to say about the human
condition" shite I've ever seen. A luvvy's wet dream.

I honestly believe films like that are made to make the critics cream
themselves, and thus garner ticket sales ... truly great film "sells"
itself.

I utterly despise Malkovich as an actor. I'm sure he's a perfectly
splendid chap IRL, but as an actor he's hammy, up himself, and totally
lacking in subtlety. I'd gladly hack his head off with a rusty carving
knife.

In other words, I'm not a fan.

Veggie Dave

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May 25, 2006, 5:28:16 PM5/25/06
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Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>Hmm. Don't suppose you liked Dangerous Liaisons or Being John
>Malkovich, did you?

Being John Malkovich was excellent.

Sorry Bear...

Bear

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May 25, 2006, 5:31:54 PM5/25/06
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:28:20 +0100, Bear said ...

> On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:22:37 +0100, Champ said ...
> > On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:38:34 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Air Con is possibly one of the worst "action" films ever made, and once
> > >again demonstrated to me that, should I ever get that Malkovich twat
> > >down a dark alley, I'm going to kick the cunt out of him for what he's
> > >made me sit through. Your days are numbered, Malkovich.
> >
> > Hmm. Don't suppose you liked Dangerous Liaisons or Being John
> > Malkovich, did you?
>
> Hated both. Especially BJM.

Forgot to mention; the championing (heh) of BJM by an ex was what first
sowed the seeds of doubt in my mind. I thought "do I want to spend the
rest of my life with someone so easily fooled into buying the emperor's
new clothes?".

Bear

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May 25, 2006, 5:33:16 PM5/25/06
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:28:16 +0100, Veggie Dave said ...

> Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
> >Hmm. Don't suppose you liked Dangerous Liaisons or Being John
> >Malkovich, did you?
>
> Being John Malkovich was excellent.
>
> Sorry Bear...

Hey, I'm not saying everyone has to feel about things the way I do. I
have my opinion, but what you feel is between you and your heart & head.

... you clueless twat ;)

Champ

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May 25, 2006, 6:12:53 PM5/25/06
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:28:20 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:22:37 +0100, Champ said ...
>> On Thu, 25 May 2006 21:38:34 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Air Con is possibly one of the worst "action" films ever made, and once
>> >again demonstrated to me that, should I ever get that Malkovich twat
>> >down a dark alley, I'm going to kick the cunt out of him for what he's
>> >made me sit through. Your days are numbered, Malkovich.
>>
>> Hmm. Don't suppose you liked Dangerous Liaisons or Being John
>> Malkovich, did you?
>
>Hated both. Especially BJM. The worst load of contrived, "look at us,
>aren't we clever, come see what we have to say about the human
>condition" shite I've ever seen. A luvvy's wet dream.
>
>I honestly believe films like that are made to make the critics cream
>themselves, and thus garner ticket sales ... truly great film "sells"
>itself.

You say tomato, etc etc.

I think BJM is one of the most original and inventive films I've ever
seen. But then, similarly, I loved Adaptation, which you've slagged
elsewhere in this thread.

>I utterly despise Malkovich as an actor. I'm sure he's a perfectly
>splendid chap IRL, but as an actor he's hammy, up himself, and totally
>lacking in subtlety. I'd gladly hack his head off with a rusty carving
>knife.
>
>In other words, I'm not a fan.

Clearly. I think he's fairly limited, but what he does works very
well in the right setting, and Dangerous Liaisons was absolutely
perfect with him in it.

Bear

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May 25, 2006, 6:21:54 PM5/25/06
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 23:12:53 +0100, Champ said ...

> On Thu, 25 May 2006 22:28:20 +0100, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >> Hmm. Don't suppose you liked Dangerous Liaisons or Being John
> >> Malkovich, did you?
> >
> >Hated both. Especially BJM. The worst load of contrived, "look at us,
> >aren't we clever, come see what we have to say about the human
> >condition" shite I've ever seen. A luvvy's wet dream.
> >
> >I honestly believe films like that are made to make the critics cream
> >themselves, and thus garner ticket sales ... truly great film "sells"
> >itself.
>
> You say tomato, etc etc.

Oh for sure; I'm not saying those *are* bad films, merely that I hated
them. Others can make their own minds up, obviously. I'm a bit thick, so
possibly the beauty, majesty and intelligence passed me by.



> I think BJM is one of the most original and inventive films I've ever
> seen. But then, similarly, I loved Adaptation, which you've slagged
> elsewhere in this thread.

Well yes, both films are designed to appeal to people like you :)

Wanna buy this lovely vest?

<holds up invisible garment>

> >I utterly despise Malkovich as an actor. I'm sure he's a perfectly
> >splendid chap IRL, but as an actor he's hammy, up himself, and totally
> >lacking in subtlety. I'd gladly hack his head off with a rusty carving
> >knife.
> >
> >In other words, I'm not a fan.
>
> Clearly. I think he's fairly limited, but what he does works very
> well in the right setting, and Dangerous Liaisons was absolutely
> perfect with him in it.

Dreadful film, dire acting, and I can't stand Glen Close either, so a
bit of a non-starter for me :)

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