Sigle sider horror story on my 1200 Bandit!Read it please!
Spencer Clark
services of Metmachex engineering,I hope you all read it carefully and you'll
understand what a horror story it.It's also on visordown.com (thanks Zanx) and
also on sukbog.co.uk (Bloody huge thanks to Muppet)None of it is "made up",its
all
facts,but I have abbreviated some of it because the whole story would take me
hours to type!Here goes:
Around the end of May I visited Metmachex as I was thinking of having a single
sided swing arm fitted to my bike(200 miles plus each way!) .My bike is a K1
model so it's quite a different beast from the older shape.Bill(Boss at
metmachex) looked at my Bandit and said it was the same swing arm as the old
one and they would have no problems fitting a single sider to my bike.I wanted
an extra 20mm on the swing arm length as the back was going to be raised to
accommmadte underseat pipes and I didnt want to shorten the wheelbase.They also
said no problems to that dimension.I agreed to pay £500 deposit for them to
order a Dymag wheel and start work on the swing arm.They said the standard
shock was shite and suggested getting something better.I ordered a top of the
range Ohlins shock ,nearly £600's worth!!
They contacted me a few weeks later and we agreed a date for fitting.So I
travelled the 200 odd miles again for the fitting.I had the shock fitted the
same time as they fitted my swing arm,Once fitted I took it for a spin,the
swing arm clashed with my Brand new shock and damaged it!This was the first
time this shock had ever been used.Went back to their workshop,told them of the
problems,they said they would have to remove the swing arm for some
modifications,A bloke called Geoff Rawson dropped us off in Alfreton to kill
the wait.He told me he didnt work for Metmachex but helped them out sometimes
and gave me a card to call him when we wanted picking up.My girlfriend and I
wandered around Alfreton for a few hours then walked back to the workshop.They
said it was all sorted so I paid the rest of the money (£2300),loaded up the
luggage and girlfriend and started off home.
Once back on the Somerset roads (lumpy and bumpy) I could feel the swing arm
hitting the shock again!
Rang Metmachex,told them of the problems,they said they would make a new
mountong block and send it down for me to fit.I didnt really think I ought to
be fitting things that they should have got right in the first place.I also
found my chain had started to become quite tight.I retensioned the chain and
tightened the pinch bolts closely follwing the instructions I was given (
tighten the bolts up using an allen key so they are hand tight and then just
nip them up with a ring spanner on the end of the allen key).I noticed my chain
kept getting either loose or tight each time I used the bike so I informed
metmachex.I then had my underseat pipes fitted a few days later. I had a
conversation with Bill at Metmachex in regards to having some upside down
Ohlins fitted with some monster alloy yokes.They said they would make a 15-20mm
drop in the yokes to take up some of the 30mm loss of length on the fork
length.I agreed with Bill on this situation and paid £350 deposit for them to
get the forks in for me. I collected the bike a couple of weeks later from the
exhaust place and on the way home on the A303 in heavy traffic my back wheel
seized solid at around 60 odd MPH,skidding through traffic I managed to stop
the bike in the middle of the dual carriageway!!If I'd have touched the front
brake it would have spat me off,too say it got scarey was a bit of an
understatement.The back tyre was like something from a cartoon ie.totally flat
on the bottom!I am surprised it didnt blow out!I waited 2 hours in the fucking
rain,we just so happened to have a lovely thunderstorm when the back wheel
seized.The recovery people had to get my girlfriend to bring out my paddock
stand so we could roll the bike onto their lorry.They dropped my bike off at my
workplace as I couldnt get it into my hallway on the paddock stand.(lucky I
have
a key for the workshop,eh?).My local bike shop collected the bike from my
workplace and checked the engine and gearbox.They said my swing arm was to
blame but the engine and gearbox were OK,thank fuck!
Rang Metmachex on Monday,had a good moan at them and they said they collect my
bike to examine it.I went to see my bike at my local bike shop last thing
before they closed (5.20 ish),when I looked at it,they had put the bike in a
position where there was no way anything was near the front end of it (I say
this for later reasons).The follwing morning a driver (Geoff Rawson) collected
my bike and took it to Metmachex for examination.Metmachex contacted me a few
days later and they admitted they were at fault as they hadnt given correct
instructions for tensioning the chain(torque settings for the pinch bolts) and
they didnt shorten the chain even
though they noticed it wasnt allowing the hub assembly to sit in the correct
position.(Heres when I started to think back to my original visit to Metmachex
when I asked for an extra 20mm on the swing arm,which I obviously didnt get as
it should have made the chain too short not too long) .Bill asked if I still
wanted the forks fitted.He assured me nothing else would go wrong so I agreed
to them doing the work.The front end work was agreed at £2000 minus the £350 I
already paid.This didnt include the carbon fibre mudgaurd which was a further
£110.
A couple of weeks later my bike was returned to me at my workplace.Geoff Rawson
pointed out a few problems regarding the exhaust so I noted them,whilst looking
over the bike I noticed they had scratched the clocks,and one of the riser bolt
caps was missing,I pointed these out to geoff and told him I would have to
contact Bill about it.The mudgaurd hadnt arrived at Metmachex in time so I was
told they would send it to me shortly.I paid the balance of £1760 to Geoff.He
left and I rang Bill about the problems.He agreed to send new clock pods and
riser bolt caps.Fair enough I thought.I finished work,got on the bike and rode
home.Went to lock the bike up and found I couldnt! I examined the headstock and
found the lock pin couldnt locate in the headstock as it was about 25mm too
high.I also noticed my brakes were starting to drag quite badly.I tried to ring
Bill,but as he was away the call was directed to Geoff Rawson. He said "If
you've got problems with the work you need to moan to Metmachex not me".O.K I
thought.I contacted bill on Monday and told him of the problems.He said he
wouldnt collect it but he would put it right when I visited their workshop
again.Not very happy about that,it was all starting to get on my tits now!
I rang My local shop and asked them to book it in to check the brakes as they
dragged once before due to a build up of shit during the winter.My mudgaurd
arrived,I fitted it and rode to my local bike shop (about 2-3 miles).When I
applied the brakes to turn into the bike shop car park the brake hose splitter
box hit the mudgaurd and cracked it.One brand new carbon-fibre mudgaurd
fucked!I rang Metmachex and they said they would send some different hoses to
eliminate the splitter box and also send a new mudgaurd.
I rang my bike shop about a week later and they said "we're not touching your
bike till we have photographic evidence of your brakes"I said "what are you
talking about?" and they told me to come and see the bike.When I looked at the
bike Metmachex had routed the brake hoses through the calipers in such a way
that they had become crushed,the brakes dragged because they were staying on as
the fluid couldnt return.On top of this when the bled the brakes at
Metmachex,they didnt refill the resevoir.They left the fucker nearly
empty.There was a slight film in the bottom of the resevoir,saying it was not
up to the minimum fluid level is a massive under statement.I got the photos of
the evidence thanks to one of the mechanics going home and getting his
camera.(I dont think I can thank the guys at GT Motorcycles too much for all
their help throughout this fiasco as they've been bloody brilliant).The
mechanics said if I had gone any distance on the bike it would have thrown me
off as the disks would expand slightly and bind on.I was now very fucking
pissed off with Metmachex.This was the second time they had left my bike in a
lethal condition.I rang Metmachex,was put on hold and got a very abusive Geoff
Rawson on the phone(who previously denied working for Metmachex).I thought I 'm
not paying for a phone call for him to gob off at me so I switched my phone
off.A short while later I put my phone back on and Geoff had left a message on
my answer phone.He accused me of sabotaging my own brakes and scratching the
clock pods and then blaming them for it.He said I was "taking the piss"
expecting them to fix the problems on the bike and he was not going to collect
it again.He also accused me of being a coward for switching my phone off and
also said he was going to visit me personally,which seemed to me to be more of
a veiled threat than an offer of help.Needless to say I taped the message as it
is possible to use this as evidence in court.After all this shit I decided to
measure my yokes and swingarm.The drop on the yokes was just under 10mm,which
at best is 50%differnet to the agreed depth and the swing arm was shorter than
standard,the opposite of what I wanted,this is why they had to remove 1 and a
half chain links to stop the chain pulling the hub assembly around again.
GT Motorcycles fixed my brakes.I forwarded a letter of complaint to Metmachex.I
got a cheque for just under £25 for GT Motorcycles to fit new hoses (which
Metmachex supplied)No explainations or apologies,just the cheque with a
covernote.
Being a member of Mag,BMF,Streetfighters Owners Club and SUKBOG I forwarded
this story to all of them,I've had a massive response,The MAG top bod wants the
full story so i have to write it out and send it to him,I've sent it to Trading
Standards (who have promised to write to Metmachex this week) and to a
specialist bike solicitor,who will act for me as we are talking over £5000
worth of kit.I have also fowarded the details to a consumer complaint programme
on HTV and also to RIDE Magazine who are also looking in to it.
Any comments would be appreciated from anyone on this site the reads it.
Many thanks,
Spencer.
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Cowman
money to be spending on what is in essence a budget bike! Would it not have
been easier to have bought something better in the first place. Oh and i'm
not slagging off the bandit you will notice from my sig that I own one too
and I can see the point of a one off it just seems rather too much. My list
of mods is somewhat less extreme basically every fastener is stainless,
carbon look bugger, belly pan and fender extender and stainless hoses all
round plus the obligatory immobiliser/alarm.
--
COWMAN
Mr plod, OSOS#8
===========================================================
Current Bikes
KZ550 f1 spectre 1983 (restored)
Suzuki Bandit GSF 1200 N 1999
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Suzuki RG125 gamma
Honda CB125 TDC superdream
Suzuki ZR50x1
Gadget
"Spencer Clark" <gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote
<snipped a wee bit about ruining a perfectly good bike>
You should have got a Ducati has most of them bits as standard.
Ben Sales
<gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Hi all,I am posting this story for the benefit of anybody considering using the
>services of Metmachex engineering,
<snip>
I have to wonder why you carried on paying them to do work on your
bike when work they had already done wasn't to a satisfactory
standard?
I'd have stopped after the first thing f*cked up. Withheld payment
until it was sorted and then look for another company to do the other
work.
Still, I hope you get it sorted and some or all of your money back.
B
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Darren Robinson
<gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote:
<SNIP tale of woe>
>Any comments would be appreciated from anyone on this site the reads it.
>Many thanks,
>Spencer.
Sorry to have to tell you this, Spencer, but you've obviously got (or
perhaps more likely had) more money than sense. If you want an
expensive bike, buy an expensive bike. Hope you get some satisfaction
though.
--
Darren Robinson
Bandit 600, GHPOTHUF#14 and some other stuff I've forgotten.
Knowledge is power, and my batteries are flat.
Darren Robinson
wrote:
>carbon look bugger
TCP application?
Eclipse
wrote:
>I hope you get it all sorted but it does seem a rather excessive amount of
>money to be spending on what is in essence a budget bike! Would it not have
>been easier to have bought something better in the first place. Oh and i'm
>not slagging off the bandit you will notice from my sig that I own one too
>and I can see the point of a one off it just seems rather too much. My list
>of mods is somewhat less extreme basically every fastener is stainless,
>carbon look bugger, belly pan and fender extender and stainless hoses all
^^^^^^
>round plus the obligatory immobiliser/alarm.
Nice.
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Eclipse
wrote:
>On Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:00:50 +0000 (UTC), "Spencer Clark"
><gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi all,I am posting this story for the benefit of anybody considering using the
>>services of Metmachex engineering,
>
><snip>
>
>I have to wonder why you carried on paying them to do work on your
>bike when work they had already done wasn't to a satisfactory
>standard?
>
>I'd have stopped after the first thing f*cked up. Withheld payment
>until it was sorted and then look for another company to do the other
>work.
>
AO fucking L
>Still, I hope you get it sorted and some or all of your money back.
>
>B
Should've bought a nicer bike in the first place, if you've got that
much money.
The Older Gentleman
> Hi all,
<snip>
I just can't be arsed to read a tale of woe that's one bloody humungous
block of text, like a binary, with no paragraphs.
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BigJ
>Hi all,I am posting this story for the benefit of anybody considering using the
>services of Metmachex engineering,I hope you all read it carefully and you'll
>understand what a horror story it.It's also on visordown.com (thanks Zanx) and
<snip what could just be a made up tale>
I'm sure I've read this bafore ?
Have you posted this here before ??
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Alan T Gower
Spencer Clark <gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:0c69838463042d69885...@mygate.mailgate.org...
> Hi all,I am posting this story for the benefit of anybody considering
using the
> services of Metmachex engineering,I hope you all read it carefully and
you'll
You sir are a salesman's dream. You hand over cash willy-nilly, you except
what you're being told. To me it seems a stupid amount of money to spend on
a Bandit in the first place.
Nevertheless, you've been done and there are laws that should protect you.
Did you have anything in writing?
--
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"Nemo repente fuit turpissimus"
Veggie Meldrew
>I'm sure I've read this bafore ?
I don't remember this tale, but you may be confusing it with a number of
complaints against Metmachex's first replacement Bandit swingarms that
used to, allegedly, collapse where the shock bolted to it
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Daz
Older Gentleman) wrote:
<snip>
>I just can't be arsed to read a tale of woe that's one bloody humungous
>block of text, like a binary, with no paragraphs.
<AOL>
--
Daz
CBR900RRY - Pleasure
CB250 - Purpose
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http://highside.d2g.com
Champ
>On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:45:51 +0000, chateau...@btinternet.com (The
>Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>I just can't be arsed to read a tale of woe that's one bloody humungous
>>block of text, like a binary, with no paragraphs.
>
><AOL>
<AOL2>
--
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GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZXR750 Endurance Racer
GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFOT#35 UKRMFBC#2 IHABWTMMJ#3 MCT#5 WG*#1 BONY#40 DFV#8 IbW#17
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Allan Stobart
"Daz" <lewisd35...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ko191uc6bmteah9vf...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:45:51 +0000, chateau...@btinternet.com (The
> Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >I just can't be arsed to read a tale of woe that's one bloody humungous
> >block of text, like a binary, with no paragraphs.
>
> <AOL>
It's worth reading if there is any chance of you going to Metmachex for any
work to be done on your bike or even just buying parts from them.
They're crap in my book - they can't even be bothered to answer simple email
questions about their products.
Stobie
BONY#36
Bandit 600SY
Durham
Eclipse
>Daz <lewisd35...@hotmail.com> coughed and it sounded like:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 07:45:51 +0000, chateau...@btinternet.com (The
>>Older Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>I just can't be arsed to read a tale of woe that's one bloody humungous
>>>block of text, like a binary, with no paragraphs.
>>
>><AOL>
>
><AOL2>
<{ao|nt}lcotseukrm>
I think I'll have to trim off the aontlcotse bit and just put <ukrm>
instead.
steve auvache
<benb...@ukrm.net> writes
>"Spencer Clark" <gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>Any comments would be appreciated from anyone on this site the reads it.
>
>
>Carriage returns are marvellous things.
>
>This is not a site, it's a newsgroup.
Ivan posted a link for me once about that.
--
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fuset...@thecow.org.uk
BOF#41 YSV#01 IbW#06 OSOS#20 DiS
VT500c(breaking) VT500, K100RT
Trike still pending.
Cowman
> >carbon look bugger
>
> TCP application?
>
eddie boy
>Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
the words 9mm
kneecap
and big fuck offhole spring to mind stange that mmmm
??????????????????????????
eddiebhoy
yzfr6
Spencer Clark
The bike was supposed to be a Bandit with decent suspension,see it from a
distance and all looks reasonably normal,get close and you think bloody 'ell
theres a lot of work gone into that.As its the new shape Bandit I think it
looks very pretty and it certainly gets more attention than any of the Ducatis
around here.Also have you ever tried covering hundreds of miles 2 up with a ton
of luggage on a fucking Ducati?!?!
My uncle owns a 916 and tried a trip to France 2 up with kit and said it was
very uncomfortable,Also ever heard of a turbo charged Ducati coz I haven't,and
my final closing comment I think italian bikes are pretty shite for everyday
use,on the track thats different,I appreciate a comfy seat and a reliable
engine,A few of my friends have Italian bikes and to say they suffer from
electrical problems is an understatement.A friends Mille tells him its loosing
power as soon as it rains and he also has had 2 instances where he had to wait
5 weeks for parts.I not Foggy and don't pretend to be I just appreciate things
that are practical (as my missus likes to go the bike as well) and look
pretty,if any of you lot are into specials maybe you will see where I'm coming
from,if not then why waste your time replying to something you have no interest
in,the reason for the message is to warn you of spending money with a company
that really shouldn't be doing work like this,and yes I'd probably agree that I
shouldn't have let Metmachex do the rest of the work,hindsight is a wonderful
thing ain't it?
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Eclipse
fairy nuff,
If nothing else I should think anybody reading that lot would be very
wary of using metmachex.
I still think it's a waste of money tricking up a bandit to that
extent though.
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Simian
"Spencer Clark" <gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Seems like some of you lot are missing the point here,doesn't it.
> The bike was supposed to be a Bandit with decent suspension,see it from a
I got 4 lines into that, and gave up.
What you need is whitespace, to break up the monolithic block of text
into small, easy to manage sections.
Also, spaces after punctuation help enormously. Multiple punctuation
makes you look like an excited 16 year old girl (on usenet, this is a
bad thing).
Ginge
spoke...
> Seems like some of you lot are missing the point here,doesn't it.
But isn't also fair to make the point it appears you have more money
than sense?
I know I'd not go near Metmachex after your story even if the devil were
to posess me and convince me I needed something as ridiculous as a
single sided swingarm on a bandit 12.
--
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Champ
like:
>Multiple punctuation makes you look like an excited
>16 year old girl (on usenet, this is a bad thing).
Who for?
Simian
"Champ" <uk...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> "Simian" coughed and it sounded like:
>
> >Multiple punctuation makes you look like an excited
> >16 year old girl (on usenet, this is a bad thing).
>
> Who for?
Well, reasoning being, that anything that sounds like
an excited 16yo girl in real life probably isn't too
far off actually being an excited 16yo girl.
On usenet, it means that the person will either be
stalked by net weirdos (e.g., most of ukrm) or considered
a twat, while at the same time having a vanishingly small
probibility of really being an excited 16yo girl.
Spencer Clark
If I have plenty of spending money whats that got to do with the issue?
If someone wants to ride a turbo charged Puch Maxi thats their choice,if you
want to dye your pubes green and have pubic topiary to leave them in the shape
of an elephant thats also their choice but it doesn't detract from the story.
Point made?(Yawn)
Hello Stobie,It was nice of you pointing me in the direction of this list,but I
really think I am wasting my time here.
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Ace
<gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>The whole idea behind different concepts of bikes is that people are different.
>If I have plenty of spending money whats that got to do with the issue?
>If someone wants to ride a turbo charged Puch Maxi thats their choice,if you
>want to dye your pubes green and have pubic topiary to leave them in the shape
>of an elephant thats also their choice but it doesn't detract from the story.
>Point made?(Yawn)
>Hello Stobie,It was nice of you pointing me in the direction of this list,but I
>really think I am wasting my time here.
Well unless you learn to quote at least part of the post to which
you're replying, add some white space between paragraphs and generally
stop acting like a ten-year-old, I think you're probably right.
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Veggie Meldrew
literary masterpiece:
>I still think it's a waste of money tricking up a bandit to that
>extent though.
You just have a different criteria for two-wheeled enjoyment. Some of us
enjoy modifying bikes to the point where riding a standard bike appears
just as pointless
Spencer Clark
skeleton might convince you I'm not a 16 year old girl,adding to that the fact
a ride a 210 kilo(dry)1200 Bandit.I also know of no females that can leg-press
330kilos!
The typing may not be up to much but then I'm not a secretary,thats a girls
job(another point made?)
My very girly missus would also vouch that I'm definately not a lass,as she
likes it (very) rough.
I think all of it sums up to :I'm fit,I have a good looking woman ,an unusual
bike and too much spending money.A good recipe for getting jealous reactions I
think!
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Champ
like:
>Maybe a picture of all the tattoos and 14 stone of lean bodyweight on a 5'7
>skeleton might convince you I'm not a 16 year old girl,adding to that the fact
>a ride a 210 kilo(dry)1200 Bandit.I also know of no females that can leg-press
>330kilos!
>The typing may not be up to much but then I'm not a secretary,thats a girls
>job(another point made?)
>My very girly missus would also vouch that I'm definately not a lass,as she
>likes it (very) rough.
>I think all of it sums up to :I'm fit,I have a good looking woman ,an unusual
>bike and too much spending money.A good recipe for getting jealous reactions I
>think!
This is just such a *perfect* example of a trollyfrog
Welcome back, Simes
Champ
>Champ <uk...@champ.org.uk> said:
>
>>"Spencer Clark" <gripp...@btinternet.com> coughed and it sounded
>>like:
>[...]
>
>
>>This is just such a *perfect* example of a trollyfrog
>>
>>Welcome back, Simes
>
>Really?
Dunno. But I can't believe he's for real.
Bagpuss
<ad...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>
>Spencer Clark <gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>news:0c69838463042d69885...@mygate.mailgate.org...
>> Hi all,I am posting this story for the benefit of anybody considering
>using the
>> services of Metmachex engineering,I hope you all read it carefully and
>you'll
>
>
>You sir are a salesman's dream. You hand over cash willy-nilly, you except
>what you're being told.
Wonder if he works for the company buyout part of one of the telcos
;-)
Bagpuss
<gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Maybe a picture of all the tattoos and 14 stone of lean bodyweight on a 5'7
>skeleton might convince you I'm not a 16 year old girl,adding to that the fact
>a ride a 210 kilo(dry)1200 Bandit.I also know of no females that can leg-press
>330kilos!
>The typing may not be up to much but then I'm not a secretary,thats a girls
>job(another point made?)
>My very girly missus would also vouch that I'm definately not a lass,as she
>likes it (very) rough.
>I think all of it sums up to :I'm fit,I have a good looking woman ,an unusual
>bike and too much spending money.A good recipe for getting jealous reactions I
>think!
Heh, top bloke I say, I jellous that you can just throw away 5 grand
on bike mods :-)
I'm 6'4 and 18 stone, unfortuantly I'm not lean anymore.
Bandits are designed to be tricked up.
Pip
news:n2he1u8toqpuheaco...@4ax.com...
> Marc Donovan <spam...@dnrc.co.uk> coughed and it sounded like:
>
> >Champ <uk...@champ.org.uk> said
> >
> >>
> >>Welcome back, Simes
> >
> >Really?
>
> Dunno. But I can't believe he's for real.
He's for real, as is his story concerning his sound ripping off by
Metmachex. I've been following this on the SUKBOG list, see? I should say
"we" actually, as there's a lot of familiar Bandit-owning ukrm regular-type
names that occur over there.
Spencer is just trying to warn anybody else off chucking money at a company
which seems to offer some smart gear for bikes but in reality seems to be
better at fucking them and their owners over. A poorly-formatted, lengthy
post, perhaps, but the intent was better than the content.
Sadly, there appears to be only one way to produce a trick-as-fuck bike -
and that's to throw shedloads of dosh at it. Spencer was willing to do
this, using what appeared to be a reputable firm, but got his fingers
severely and severally burned. I'm obliged to him for sharing the info, as
it'll save me doing the same (as if I could afford to do it anyway).
--
Pip - a Garage Pixie. Bandit 1200S - in black with black bits
WS* DFWAG#0 IbW#27* DIAABTCOD#15 GP#0 EKP FUB#4
ANORAK#8MIRTTH#15Coff#3(EFFA)BOTAFOT#47/34aBONY#13
Eclipse
<semi_evol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
--------8<
>I got 4 lines into that, and gave up.
>
>What you need is whitespace, to break up the monolithic block of text
>into small, easy to manage sections.
>
>Also, spaces after punctuation help enormously. Multiple punctuation
>makes you look like an excited 16 year old girl (on usenet, this is a
>bad thing).
>
Hmm..
Is this why a book seems easier to read than a computer screen?
Actually, after picking up The Two Towers and having a quick peek, it
doesn't appear to be the case, yet there is no doubt that, for me at
least, it is much easier to read text printed on paper.
This despite the fact that my monitor has roughly six times the space
to display a page than a paperback has. perhaps font choice has more
to do with it, I tend to display text in a fixed font, if available.
Ben Sales
<topher.epid...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:12:48 -0000, "Simian"
><semi_evol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>--------8<
>>I got 4 lines into that, and gave up.
>>
>>What you need is whitespace, to break up the monolithic block of text
>>into small, easy to manage sections.
>>
>>Also, spaces after punctuation help enormously. Multiple punctuation
>>makes you look like an excited 16 year old girl (on usenet, this is a
>>bad thing).
>>
>Hmm..
>
>Is this why a book seems easier to read than a computer screen?
Actually that's down to how the flicker caused by the refreshing of
the screen interferes with the way your eye scans across the text.
B
--
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"We take these risks, not to escape from life,
but to prevent life escaping from us."
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Pip
"Ben Blaney" <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
news:1g2f1u48ffivjmte4...@4ax.com...
> "Pip" <gpz...@garagepixies.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >I've been following this on the SUKBOG list, see? I should say
> >"we" actually, as there's a lot of familiar Bandit-owning ukrm
regular-type
> >names that occur over there.
>
> I joined the SUKBOG mailing list, but it was a bit high traffic, and I
> couldn't keep up.
<g>
*cough*600 unread emails*cough*
Since Friday. It can be a bit busy ...
William Grainger
Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>"Pip" <gpz...@garagepixies.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I've been following this on the SUKBOG list, see? I should say
>>"we" actually, as there's a lot of familiar Bandit-owning ukrm regular-type
>>names that occur over there.
>
Don't they talk about pulling wheelies?
--
Dr Will
GPz750turbo
IMC#10 two#7 BOTAFO(F#02|T#58) STB#5 HLR#4 DFVKotL
Eclipse
wrote:
-------8<
>>Hmm..
>>
>>Is this why a book seems easier to read than a computer screen?
>
>Actually that's down to how the flicker caused by the refreshing of
>the screen interferes with the way your eye scans across the text.
>
>B
Is this addressable by adjusting refresh rates then, I have 85hz at
1280X1024 at the moment, I thought that was high enough to prevent
flicker problems?
Ben Sales
<topher.epid...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:08:04 +0000, Ben Sales <sp...@randygerbil.com>
>wrote:
>
>-------8<
>>>Hmm..
>>>
>>>Is this why a book seems easier to read than a computer screen?
>>
>>Actually that's down to how the flicker caused by the refreshing of
>>the screen interferes with the way your eye scans across the text.
>>
>Is this addressable by adjusting refresh rates then, I have 85hz at
>1280X1024 at the moment, I thought that was high enough to prevent
>flicker problems?
No, apparently not.
<fx: toddles off to get a reference>
<fx: toddles back after finding that the book in question is at uni
with his brother>
<fx: toddles off to the web>
This is quite good in general coverage:
http://www.psych.utoronto.ca/~muter/pmuter1.htm
I can't remember the exact terms but it's something to do with how the
eye fixates on points in the text and doesn't jump from one word to
the next but jumps groups of words at a time and always moving
forwards and back. The refresh rate of the monitor causes
imperceptible flicker which interferes with this fixating process
causing you to continually 'lose your place' as it were.
'Human Computer Interaction' by Dix, Beale, Abowd and Finlay
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0132398648/o/qid=1008187940/sr=2-3/ref=sr_bt_3/026-4870407-7250020
covers it very well. Beale was my HCI lecturer at uni.
Colin Smith
><semi_evol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>--------8<
>>I got 4 lines into that, and gave up.
>>
>>What you need is whitespace, to break up the monolithic block of text
>>into small, easy to manage sections.
>>
>>Also, spaces after punctuation help enormously. Multiple punctuation
>>makes you look like an excited 16 year old girl (on usenet, this is a
>>bad thing).
>>
>Hmm..
>
>Is this why a book seems easier to read than a computer screen?
Computer screens are bright, much brighter than the surroundings, paper
isn't. If you reverse your screen intensities, i.e. white on black, you'll
find it much easier to read. I find that mid grey on black is better
still.
--
UCE probe.
Don't send mail to Amaps...@yelm.freeserve.co.uk there's nobody home.
The address captures spammer addresses and /dev/nulls all their mail.
Regards, Colin...@yelm.freeserve.co.uk
Pip
> "Pip" <gpz...@garagepixies.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <SUKBOG>
>
> >*cough*600 unread emails*cough*
> >
> >Since Friday. It can be a bit busy ...
>
Apparently there is - and no, I only lurk there.
And that's just the Tech list, where on topic means just that. I've no idea
how high the throughputs on the Social/Announcement lists are. Fills an
idle moment though.
Alan W. Frame
> Spencer is just trying to warn anybody else off chucking money at a company
> which seems to offer some smart gear for bikes but in reality seems to be
> better at fucking them and their owners over.
Hmm.
I've heard good things about Metmachex in the context of better-than-OE
swingarms for ShiteOldItalian bikes.
the original post says:
>I wanted an extra 20mm on the swing arm length
>as the back was going to be raised to accommmadte underseat pipes and I
>didnt want to shorten the wheelbase.
Possibly mistake number one by our punter.
>They also said no problems to that dimension.
Possibly mistake number two by Metmachex.
I'm not about to re-jig the geometry of any of my bikes to that
extent[0] - I'll leave that to the manufacturer.
rgds, Alan
[0] other than +/- 10mm or so in fork height and using the range of
suspension adjustments that are possible
--
99 Ducati 748BP, 95 Ducati 600SS, 81 Guzzi Monza, 74 MV Agusta 350
"Ride to Work, Work to Ride" SI# 7.067 DoD#1930 PGP Key 0xBDED56C5
Casanunda
tried to sound threatening, but instead just looked silly in silk
pyjamas and fluffy bunny slippers:
>
>
>"Ben Blaney" <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
>news:1g2f1u48ffivjmte4...@4ax.com...
>> "Pip" <gpz...@garagepixies.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >I've been following this on the SUKBOG list, see? I should say
>> >"we" actually, as there's a lot of familiar Bandit-owning ukrm
>regular-type
>> >names that occur over there.
>>
>> I joined the SUKBOG mailing list, but it was a bit high traffic, and I
>> couldn't keep up.
>
><g>
>
>*cough*600 unread emails*cough*
>
>Since Friday. It can be a bit busy ...
Which reminds me. I tried emailing you *that* picture last night, but
p...@ukrm.net doesn't work anymore, so *that* picture is currently
floating around the ether looking for a sympathetic email account to
latch onto. Wanna tell me a working one?
--
Vince,
The exoptable one.
ZX9R, ZZR600
Ex-SKoGA#3, YTC#13
BONY#47, SBS#22, BOTAFOF#26, BOTAFOT#102, MRO#23
IAAaBaBKoTL#1.
When we speak of freedom we mean the freedom
of the opposition, It is no freedom if only
the people who agree with those in power and
with their ways and means are free.
- Mohammad Khatami, President of Iran
Eclipse
<gripp...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Maybe a picture of all the tattoos and 14 stone of lean bodyweight on a 5'7
>skeleton might convince you I'm not a 16 year old girl,adding to that the fact
>a ride a 210 kilo(dry)1200 Bandit.I also know of no females that can leg-press
>330kilos!
Big Deal, Half the blokes on here do this every time they stand up.
and some of the girlies too ;o)
>The typing may not be up to much but then I'm not a secretary,thats a girls
>job(another point made?)
>My very girly missus would also vouch that I'm definately not a lass,as she
>likes it (very) rough.
>I think all of it sums up to :I'm fit,I have a good looking woman ,an unusual
>bike and too much spending money.A good recipe for getting jealous reactions I
>think!
you daft twat, stop boasting about what a man you are, what are you
trying to hide?
Allan Stobart
"Halla" <Ha...@ihateclowns.com> wrote in message
news:hh0g1u47dthf8q0h1...@4ax.com...
> "Spencer Clark" <gripp...@btinternet.com> illuminated our benighted
> existence with these words of wisdom:
>
> >Hello Stobie,It was nice of you pointing me in the direction of this
list,but I
> >really think I am wasting my time here.
>
> *helpful*. ;-)
It was meant to be helpful for the readers of this newsgroup in case someone
else fell into a similar situation with this company, however after the
remarks Spencer has made on this newsgroup and towards me he has shown
himself to be a very immature, 14stone, tattooed person and probably
invited a lot of his problems by his attitude.
This does not negate the fact that he has been treated very badly by the
company in question.
Stobie
BONY#36
Bandit 600SY
Durham
Eclipse
ukrm is not known for being friendly to newbies who don't take great
care to fit in, but what do you expect from a bunch of
pseudointellectual smelly bikers, ffs? a friendly fucking greeting?
That's not to say that you can't be a sheep shagging, mass murderer
with halitosis and communicable leprosy, so long as you don't top post
and trim sig's, you know the "important things" in life.
It's a shame he didn't post when he first had a problem, we might've
saved him some money and some hassle.
Pip
news:odsf1u4s8ma6cb9fd...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:01:43 GMT, "Pip" <gpz...@garagepixies.co.uk>
> tried to sound threatening, but instead just looked silly in silk
> pyjamas and fluffy bunny slippers:
> >
> > It can be a bit busy ...
>
> Which reminds me. I tried emailing you *that* picture last night, but
> p...@ukrm.net doesn't work anymore
It works. Honest. Just the addy it points at was a bit chocka, like. Got
it anyway, TYVM.
<trots off to delete shitloads of email (again)>
--
Pip - a Garage Pixie. Bandit 1200S - in black with black bits
WS* DFWAG#0 IbW#27* DIAABTCOD#15 GP#0 EKP FUB#4
ANORAK#8MIRTTH#15Coff#3(EFFA)BOTAFOT#47/34aBONY#13
Music choice: "Slip-Slidin' Away - The Bandit Back Tyre Band"
William Grainger
Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>wfg...@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote:
>
>>In article <1g2f1u48ffivjmte4...@4ax.com>,
>>Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
>>>I joined the SUKBOG mailing list, but it was a bit high traffic, and I
>>>couldn't keep it up.
>>
>>Don't they talk about pulling wheelies?
>
But it is a B12, so inherantly A Good Thing.
William Grainger
Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>wfg...@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote:
>
>>In article <ek8f1u482lv8phfpn...@4ax.com>,
>>Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
>>>It's not big and it's not clever, Grainger.
>>
>>But it is a B12, so inherantly A Good Thing.
>
>wrong with it. The pile of shit.
heh
"Something wrong with it". Very technical. Have you got
a nice blank cheque for the garage when you turn up and
say 'please fix this, something's wrong with it'?
William Grainger
Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>wfg...@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote:
>
>>"Something wrong with it". Very technical. Have you got
>>a nice blank cheque for the garage when you turn up and
>>say 'please fix this, something's wrong with it'?
>
>
>Getting the poxy thing to the garage: a problem.
>
>It's something to do with the brakes, I think. When I did the 'FOF a
>few weeks back in really shit weather I reckon a load of crap got into
>the brake "things" and bound them on.
Very technical. Just sounds like a strip, regrease and reassemble
(the brakes, not you). Easy enough to do; although I've never done
it myself
William Grainger
Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>wfg...@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote:
>
>>In article <s8dh1uk8lbov2820c...@4ax.com>,
>>Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
>>>It's something to do with the brakes, I think. When I did the 'FOF a
>>>few weeks back in really shit weather I reckon a load of crap got into
>>>the brake "things" and bound them on.
>
>>Very technical. Just sounds like a strip, regrease and reassemble
>>(the brakes, not you). Easy enough to do; although I've never done
>>it myself
>
>touch any other than the seat and the handlebars. FUck that.
No, I'm sorry. You *are* Bear.
William Grainger
Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>wfg...@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote:
>
>>No, I'm sorry. You *are* Bear.
>>
>
<fx: impressed that was ever on it>
Champ
>>It's very cold in my garage, and I've found that you get dirty if you
>>touch any other than the seat and the handlebars. FUck that.
>
>No, I'm sorry. You *are* Bear.
Fucking LOL!
Champ
>It's something to do with the brakes, I think. When I did the 'FOF a
>few weeks back in really shit weather I reckon a load of crap got into
>the brake "things" and bound them on.
Fix it yerself, you poof.
Molly Fletcher
Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> writes:
> wfg...@mrao.cam.ac.uk (William Grainger) wrote:
>
>>"Something wrong with it". Very technical. Have you got
>>a nice blank cheque for the garage when you turn up and
>>say 'please fix this, something's wrong with it'?
>
>
> Getting the poxy thing to the garage: a problem.
>
> few weeks back in really shit weather I reckon a load of crap got into
> the brake "things" and bound them on.
So give them a good whack with a mallet. That oughta free them up enough to
pootle it around to the garage.
--
Molly Fletcher http://www.technodykes.org/molly/
GS850GN Sonja GS850GT Jessy mo...@technodykes.org
DOGMUK TGMCC TCP#5 STB#2 two#13 MSWF#1 BONY#28
Gadget
"Ben Blaney" <benb...@ukrm.net> wrote
>
> >So give them a good whack with a mallet. That oughta free them up enough
to
> >pootle it around to the garage.
>
>
Don't forget to take the mallet with you, just incase you are silly enough
to use the brakes on the way.
Allan Stobart
> Oh aye? Another local then.
I'm in Stanley, where you at like ?
Paul Corfield
<sh...@themoon.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 21:11:35 +0000, amidst the hideous cacophonous
>blare of usenet, the voice of Champ <uk...@champ.org.uk> rang out loud
>and clear:
>
>>Point of order : while I mostly get my bikes dealer serviced nowadays,
>>on account of being able to afford it, I used to do everything myself.
>>I've stripped and rebuilt a *lot* of engines over the years, and built
>>myself a Harris, so I do know one end of a spanner from the other.
>
>Ah... point taken. I was referring more to your fabled reluctance to
>do any diy stuff, erroneously assuming that it indicated a general
>mechanical unwillingness/ineptness/too-bloody-much-money on your part.
>
>I most heartfeltly and humbly apologise if any offence has been caused
>by my previous posting, which any person who doesn't know you might
>take to mean that you are a mechanical numpty. It is now clear that
>you are not. Indeed, I can only prostrate myself and offer obeiscence
>in front of the altar dedicated to El Champino, the fabled builder of
>street machines that make even the followers of the legendary god
>Juggernaut cringe.
>
>(is that enough?)
No - do continue ....
--
Paul C - "the big camp bastard" (tm darsy)
VFR800 | ZX6R | R1150GS (due 2001 if I'm very lucky)|
BOD#5, two#4, BOTAFOT#23, BOTAFOF#4, URMSBC#09, COFF#09
Admits to working for London Underground!
Champ
>On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:53:51 +0000, amidst the hideous cacophonous
>blare of usenet, the voice of Ben Blaney <benb...@ukrm.net> rang out
>loud and clear:
>
>>>Fix it yerself, you poof.
>>
>>I have no mechanical skills and have no interest in acquiring any.
>
>Jesushkerist, if even Champ (who infamously insists on 'getting a man
>in' to do the slightest technical thing) reckons it's the sort of
>thing that's well within the owner's capabilities, then you have no
>excuse to not do it.
Point of order : while I mostly get my bikes dealer serviced nowadays,
on account of being able to afford it, I used to do everything myself.
I've stripped and rebuilt a *lot* of engines over the years, and built
myself a Harris, so I do know one end of a spanner from the other.
Champ
>I most heartfeltly and humbly apologise if any offence has been caused
>by my previous posting, which any person who doesn't know you might
>take to mean that you are a mechanical numpty. It is now clear that
>you are not. Indeed, I can only prostrate myself and offer obeiscence
>in front of the altar dedicated to El Champino, the fabled builder of
>street machines that make even the followers of the legendary god
>Juggernaut cringe.
>
>(is that enough?)
Yes. Now don't do it again :-)