Overcooling Trident
Andy Clews
My Trident 900 seems to run rather cool in this cold weather. The
temperature gauge barely gets off the bottom mark, and it only starts
climbing if I get into a slow moving queue.
Is there any harm in masking off part of the radiator so as to cut down on
the area exposed to the airstream? Any advice on how much of it to mask off?
Or is it OK left as it is? My journey to or from work is about 16 miles, so
I'd prefer the engine to heat through a bit more on such a short run.
Andy
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Wyrm
In the article <5drv1e$8...@newstoo.ericsson.se>
etl...@etlxdmx.ericsson.se spake thus:
>In article 8N9PlAAw...@sislink.demon.co.uk, Grif
> <gr...@sislink.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> I considered this. My Tiger temp gauge never gets off the end stop,
>> unless in London traffic. Then it can indicate well up the gauge, so I
>> thought there was a risk of overheating with a rad muff of some
>> description, as I only look very occasionally at the clocks during the
>> rush hour carnage.
>My Honda Bros used to do the same, but in all weathers....
I've used a bit of cardboard to blank part of the radiator off in the
really cold weather and have had no problem. The Fan is activated
at a certain temperature and should be sufficient even with part of
the radiator blanked off.
>> How has the Trident stood up to the ravages of the shit thats been
>> spread on the roads over the last few months.
>I take it you're not too impressed with your Tiger? A Trident or Speed
>Triple is on the list, but a) people say they're top heavy b) I don't
>know what the resistance to corrosion sort fo build qaulity is like.
In the last 2 years and 10 months, I've done over 51,000 miles in all
weathers and have not had any real problem with corrosion on my
Trident. The secret is to wash it regularly.
Laurence Mee.
Secretary - Surrey Branch TOMCC.
http://www.wyrm.demon.co.uk/tomcc.htm
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Paul Griffiths
In article <5drv1e$8...@newstoo.ericsson.se>, Geoff Adams
<etl...@etlxdmx.ericsson.se> writesSnip
>I take it you're not too impressed with your Tiger? A Trident or Speed
>Triple is on the list, but a) people say they're top heavy b) I don't
>know what the resistance to corrosion sort fo build qaulity is like.
>
It was quite a daunting prospect at first and it has taken me me a
couple of thousand miles to feel completely "at home" with it. It is
indeed 'kin heavy and the C of G appears to be, but obviously can't be,
six inches above the filler cap.
I've also got an XTZ 660 which feels like a C90 after the Tiger. My late
FJ12 was a lot easier to handle. Once underway though - no probs
whatsoever and it's novel to see artics being buffeted about in your
wake on the motorway instead of the other way around. I am also a sad
inadequate bastard who enjoys the macho posturing opportunities.
The engine charcteristics are similar to the FJ, pulls like a steam
train from tickover and you never find yourself in the wrong gear.
Finish wise it's a bit of a curates egg. Silencers, rims and spokes
could be better but the rest appears bombproof. Problems being sorted
without quibble under warranty.
I'd certainly buy another. I read somewhere (Bike?) that a replacement
is in the offing. Anyone know any more?
--
Grif
Geoff Adams
> unless in London traffic. Then it can indicate well up the gauge, so I
> thought there was a risk of overheating with a rad muff of some
> description, as I only look very occasionally at the clocks during the
> rush hour carnage.
My Honda Bros used to do the same, but in all weathers....
> How has the Trident stood up to the ravages of the shit thats been
> spread on the roads over the last few months.
I take it you're not too impressed with your Tiger? A Trident or Speed
Triple is on the list, but a) people say they're top heavy b) I don't
know what the resistance to corrosion sort fo build qaulity is like.
Geoff.///
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Mike Fleming
On 11 Feb 1997 13:38:47 GMT, an...@central.susx.ac.uk (Andy Clews)
wrote:
> My Trident 900 seems to run rather cool in this cold weather. The
> temperature gauge barely gets off the bottom mark, and it only starts
> climbing if I get into a slow moving queue.
They all do that, sir...
I've got two Tridents and have ridden a Daytona and a 750 Trident.
This is perfectly normal behaviour (the temperature, that is, not
riding four Triumphs).
It's worth subscribing to the Hinckley Triumph mailing list - send a
message to majo...@magpie.com with the message
subscribe triumph-digest
in the message body. There, many helpful people will, er, help you.
There's a web page set up by one of the subscribers - it's at
http://www.widgetworks.com/~peter/triumph/
The tuning FAQ and introductory FAQ are on there.
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> I am very impressed by the Tiger. It's a real hoot.
<snip>
> I'd certainly buy another. I read somewhere (Bike?) that a replacement
> is in the offing. Anyone know any more?
MCN suggested a replacement using the T5 frame was in the offing. The
interview with Bruno Tagliaferri and Steve Steward in this month's
Bike says they are experimenting with other T5 models, but nothing
more specific (except that a T5 4-cylinder is on the cards). So a T5
Tiger could be coming - however, the seat height on the T595 is higher
than the old Daytona, so I think they'd have to mess with the rear
subframe to get the seat height back down on a peripheral frame Tiger.
Andy Clews
>> How has the Trident stood up to the ravages of the shit thats been
>> spread on the roads over the last few months.
Mine has done pretty well. But then I cheat, and use my car when the
weather is nasty :-) Actually, I have used the Trident in wet weather a few
times, so I'm not a *complete* wimp. A fair bit of muck gets slung up
on the radiator (and over the rear lamp - wonder if I should get a rear
mudguard extension....)
> In the last 2 years and 10 months, I've done over 51,000 miles in all
> weathers and have not had any real problem with corrosion on my
> Trident. The secret is to wash it regularly.
Agreed. Actually, my Trident did have a fair amount of self-protection from
the road shit, because......it had an oil leak!!?!?! Yes, there was a weep
from the oil-pressure switch, and a fair amount of oil had coated the
underside of the engine, and monoshock. Motovelo of Bolney, West Sussex,
fixed it for me for free, bless them, but then I did spend #217 on a couple
of BT54's.
J Walker
In article <E5Hv6...@flightdata.co.uk>, Wyrm
<laur...@wyrm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>My Trident is used almost every day, and I've done 51,000 miles
>in the two years and 10 months I've had it. Through rain, sleet, snow,
>salt, etc. I've not had any problems with corrosion except for the
>headlight supports which have a few pits here and there. The secret
>is to wash it regularly.
peeling at the footrest hangers, around the carrier and a few other (non
mechanical places). Otherwise it's stood up well to the two winters
it's been through (only 38,00 in nearly three years).
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Micheal Rigby
In article <5dpsp7$h...@infa.central.susx.ac.uk>, Andy Clews
<an...@central.susx.ac.uk> writes
>My Trident 900 seems to run rather cool in this cold weather. The
>temperature gauge barely gets off the bottom mark, and it only starts
>climbing if I get into a slow moving queue.
>
>the area exposed to the airstream? Any advice on how much of it to mask off?
>Or is it OK left as it is? My journey to or from work is about 16 miles, so
>I'd prefer the engine to heat through a bit more on such a short run.
>
>Andy
This is a common problem , especially with earlier models. It's due to
the modular design i.e the rad is off the 1200 . There is no problem
with masking part of the radiator off but it's down to experimenting how
much is required. Best to buy a pile of jap-crap for the winter anyway.
Dont want to throw your pride and joy down the road! See you on the road
this summer.
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Andy Clews
And lo, thus spake Micheal Rigby unto the assembled multitudes:
> This is a common problem , especially with earlier models. It's due to
> the modular design i.e the rad is off the 1200 . There is no problem
> with masking part of the radiator off but it's down to experimenting how
> much is required. Best to buy a pile of jap-crap for the winter anyway.
> Dont want to throw your pride and joy down the road! See you on the road
> this summer.
Ermmmm....actually, I find my Vauxhall Astra does the job for me in the
winter rain (well, actually, the summer rain too now I think about it).
Fair-weather biker and not scared to admit it, specially now I'm over 40 :-)