Fazer, sprog & me down,
Boots Blakeley
Wednesday, Kate's taking Melissa back to University[1] and since
Emily's car failed it's MOT I am dropping her at work on my way.
Approaching here
we're bimbling along between 40 & 50 as the car get to the junction
where the driver looks right/left/right and still goes. Emily reckons
she gave us 20m to stop in, I don't really know other than it wasn't
enough. Anchors hard on, front starts to go at which point the car
appears to stop it's manoeuvre now effectively blocking both sides of
the road. So my view looks similar to
http://www.blakeley.plus.com/Bike/bin/DSCF0085.JPG
more braking, inevitable happens and the front tucks under. The bike
goes into the front of the car and Emily and I hit the road. Slither,
slide, crunch. When the world stops moving I get up[2]remove my helmet
and go to see to Emily. She's conscious, lots of scrapes on her
leathers and the knee seams gone leaving her with a nasty gash on her
left knee.
About 15 seconds after getting to her I realise that I've also damaged
myself. The difficulty when breathing, speaking or focusing being a
bit of a clue. At this point I manage to call Kate on the drivers
mobile before having a bit of a lie down. It's all a bit confused
until the ambulances turn up after 40 minutes, so if you ever plan on
a heart attack avoid rural Sussex. All our gear is cut off, we're onto
spinal boards and away to hospital.
I've got cuts and scrapes, a broken rib T4/T5 and my helmet looks like
this http://www.blakeley.plus.com/Bike/bin/DSCF0088.JPG Emily is still
in hospital, the gash was down to bone and she may have damaged her
cruciate ligaments, an MRI scan hopefully today[3] will prove that one
way or the other. She's due to go to University at the end of the
month, I am hoping that she can still get there although I suspect
she'll be on crutches for a while.
Sussex police turned up during Wednesday in the hospital and
apparently the drivers already told them that she didn't see us[4].
She'd said as much to me, but by admitting to the police it will
hopefully make the insurance claim less delayed than it otherwise
might have been.
[1] Hence using the Zafira, leaving me with her empty car or the bike.
[2] Possibly not the best thing to do in the circumstances.
[3] Should have been yesterday but she got bounced off the queue.
[4] 1/4 ton of red bike, with lights and my lardy carcass.
--
Ian
The Older Gentleman
<Snip>
Shit, at least you're both in the land of the living. Blind bitch.
> Sussex police turned up during Wednesday in the hospital and
> apparently the drivers already told them that she didn't see us[4].
> She'd said as much to me, but by admitting to the police it will
> hopefully make the insurance claim less delayed than it otherwise
> might have been.
I'm afraid that is not an "admission". Hope for a prosecution.
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Daz
<bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
<snip>
Bad luck mate. :o( Hope you both recover OK.
--
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Jackie
typewriters employed by Boots Blakeley <bo...@despammed.com> spewed
forth:
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
<snip blind bat>
GWS to all- guess Kate has now got more important things to do than
come to EOSM.
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BGN
<bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>more braking, inevitable happens and the front tucks under. The bike
>goes into the front of the car and Emily and I hit the road. Slither,
>slide, crunch. When the world stops moving I get up[2]remove my helmet
>and go to see to Emily. She's conscious, lots of scrapes on her
>leathers and the knee seams gone leaving her with a nasty gash on her
>left knee.
That's utterly, utterly crap. I hope you're both back to normal as
quickly as possible.
Being involved in a bin with a pillion must be one of the most horrid
biking moments. I hope to never have to be a part of one.
I do wish you both well and hope for a large insurance payout for both
of you.
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platypus
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Clumsy cunt. Is the bike okay?
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an dem Kreuze lange
Richard A
<bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
<snip>
GWS to both of you.
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> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Fucksocks!
Wik
following gibberish:
>
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Arse. Hope you both GWS and they nail the driver.
Was nearly speared off myself the other day by an old boy who looked to
be about 100. He wore thick, blue, corrective specs and had his gaze
fixed rigidly ahead. It was a biiig roundabout with good viz and every
other cunt managed to spot the hulking outline of me, atop a fugly
R1200RT with matching luggage, with the World's Most Annoying Headlights
[1] ablaze.
He even had his window down which allowed me, by virtue of my wearing my
flip lid, to bellow "OI! YOU BLIND FUCKER!" at him from about 6 feet
away. Didn't bat an eyelid.
--
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[1] Apart from Nidge's.
Boots Blakeley
>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:57:38 +0100, the infinite monkeys with infinite
>typewriters employed by Boots Blakeley <bo...@despammed.com> spewed
>forth:
>
>>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>>
>
><snip blind bat>
>
>GWS to all- guess Kate has now got more important things to do than
>come to EOSM.
I can't see either of us making it at the moment. I am not sure when
Emily will get out of hospital or how mobile she'll be. I've been told
6 weeks or so until I can drive / ribs stop aching.
--
Ian
Boots Blakeley
>Boots Blakeley wrote:
>> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
>Clumsy cunt. Is the bike okay?
From the pictures I've seen no. Auntie Carol are going to give me 1st
crack at the salvage value, I figure it will be worth more to me that
way if I break what's left and Ebay it.
--
Ian
Boots Blakeley
>Being involved in a bin with a pillion must be one of the most horrid
>biking moments. I hope to never have to be a part of one.
I slid on oil with a mate as pillion sometime around '77 but that
wasn't bad. Bouncing my daughter down the road leaves me feeling
really guilty, she keeps telling me there was no way of avoiding it
but the guilt is still there.
--
Ian
Boots Blakeley
Gentleman says:
>Boots Blakeley <bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>
><Snip>
>
>Shit, at least you're both in the land of the living. Blind bitch.
For which I am thankful, well aware it could have been worse
>
>> Sussex police turned up during Wednesday in the hospital and
>> apparently the drivers already told them that she didn't see us[4].
>> She'd said as much to me,
>
>I'm afraid that is not an "admission". Hope for a prosecution.
Not even as she's said so to the Police? Of course I'll need to wait
until the insurance have seen the statements.
--
Ian
MikeH
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
GWS.
My only off with pillion has been after looking at a new car, pulled out
into traffic then stopped dead as the dirty great Abus Granit U-lock
completed its revolution at the back of the forks. Had a great "What
the.." moment followed by toppling over.[1]
[1] My left leg cannot support ms, SO and a K1100RS past 10 degrees.[2]
[2] Is this a legnote instead of a footnote?
--
Mike Hall
R1100S
Jeremy
>
> From the pictures I've seen no. Auntie Carol are going to give me 1st
> crack at the salvage value, I figure it will be worth more to me that
> way if I break what's left and Ebay it.
>
Sorry to hear about the off, GWS to both of you.. didn't your Fazer have
something like 50K miles on it?
--
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'02 Fazer 600 in blue
_______________________________________
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Cab
> Sussex police turned up during Wednesday in the hospital and
> apparently the drivers already told them that she didn't see us[4].
> She'd said as much to me, but by admitting to the police it will
> hopefully make the insurance claim less delayed than it otherwise
> might have been.
>
>
> [1] Hence using the Zafira, leaving me with her empty car or the bike.
> [2] Possibly not the best thing to do in the circumstances.
> [3] Should have been yesterday but she got bounced off the queue.
> [4] 1/4 ton of red bike, with lights and my lardy carcass.
Bugger.
That SMIDSY crap is really fucking stupid. The dozy cunt just didn't
look.
Fucking stick her in an Electric chair and turn the fucker on. You can
claim you didn't see her, when she fries.
--
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> He even had his window down which allowed me, by virtue of my wearing
> my flip lid, to bellow "OI! YOU BLIND FUCKER!" at him from about 6
> feet away. Didn't bat an eyelid.
That seems to be the norm in Paris. The dozy cunts move over, without
looking or if they do, without looking properly. I don't know what it
is. I think it's a "I'm bigger than you, I'm moving over. Whether you
like it or not" case, most of the time.
Lady Nina
<bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Snip.
Binning it with one of the kids on the back is the one that I hope
never happens.
Glad it is not too serious, GWS to both of you.
--
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For a short while longer.
JackH
"Boots Blakeley" <bo...@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:3ov56iF...@individual.net...
> more braking, inevitable happens and the front tucks under.
If only they hadn't fitted the Fazer with the brakes off an R1, eh. ;-)
Bad luck, and hope you both GWS.
--
JackH
RT
"Boots Blakeley" <bo...@despammed.com> wrote in message...
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
That really fucks me off, that statement should be followed automatically by
a "Driving without due care and attention and a danger to other road users"
charge then any extra charges as necessary.
Hope it all ends well for you.
Muck
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
A classic, I was too busy thinking about other stuff rather than driving
type thing. :( 40 minutes for the medics to turn up is not too good
either.
Hope things sort out quickly.
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Paul - xxx
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Shit.
> ... at which point the car appears to stop it's manoeuvre
Why do they do that? Why the fuck don't they just floor it and try to make
room?
> When the world stops moving I get up[2]remove my helmet
> and go to see to Emily. She's conscious, lots of scrapes on her
> leathers and the knee seams gone leaving her with a nasty gash on her
> left knee.
> I've got cuts and scrapes, a broken rib T4/T5
Get well soon, both of you.
Hopefully her insurance will pay out big stylee for you both, not that that
matters much now or when you still hurt, but at least it's an 'honest'
claim, IYSWIM ... ;)
--
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Suze
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
So sorry to hear this. Hope you both have a speedy recovery.
> It's all a bit confused
> until the ambulances turn up after 40 minutes, so if you ever plan on
> a heart attack avoid rural Sussex.
Good grief! Where were they coming from FFS?!
Guess that's one of the benefits of living in/near London.
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Suze
says...
> Boots Blakeley came up with the following;:
> > The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
>
> Why do they do that? Why the fuck don't they just floor it and try to make
> room?
Rabbit in headlights syndrome I suspect.
Mind you, Pedestrians have a nasty habit of running backwards and
forwards which is equally annoying, so just when you think you're aiming
for the gap....
Boots Blakeley
>In article <3ovdttF...@individual.net>, Boots Blakeley says...
>>
>> From the pictures I've seen no. Auntie Carol are going to give me 1st
>> crack at the salvage value, I figure it will be worth more to me that
>> way if I break what's left and Ebay it.
>>
>
>
>Sorry to hear about the off, GWS to both of you.. didn't your Fazer have
>something like 50K miles on it?
Somewhere around 62K, may have been just short of 63, I honestly can't
recall. That of course kills the value, whereas with a car it would be
normal mileage for the age.
--
Ian
Colin Irvine
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Really sorry to hear about that. GWS, and tell Kate to go easy on you!
--
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YZF1000R BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinirvine.co.uk
Pip
<bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:22:28 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, The Older
>Gentleman says:
>
>>Boots Blakeley <bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>>
>><Snip>
>>
>>Shit, at least you're both in the land of the living. Blind bitch.
>
>For which I am thankful, well aware it could have been worse
Aye. If she'd been able to see you she could have reversed over you
while you were having your little lie down.
>>> Sussex police turned up during Wednesday in the hospital and
>>> apparently the drivers already told them that she didn't see us[4].
>>> She'd said as much to me,
>>
>>I'm afraid that is not an "admission". Hope for a prosecution.
>
>Not even as she's said so to the Police? Of course I'll need to wait
>until the insurance have seen the statements.
<sucking eggs mode>
Take pictures. I see you've got one, but get plenty. The scene from
both sides and both viewpoints (yours and hers); the approaches; the
road surface; any marks you may have left on the road; pics of your
damage, clothing damage and that to the bike. Do not throw anything
away - scraped lid, fucked gear - stick it in a box in the loft, 'cos
they may want to see it before they pay out on it.
Get pics of all your (and sprog's) injuries - and 'progress' pics as
you heal and the bruises change colour. Copies (or originals) of
X-rays can be useful too.
Seriously - the more ammo you have and the more angles you can cover,
the more likely they are to roll straight over.
When I had my WVM off, the assessor looked at the bike within a week
and I had the offer of the /full/ market value in two weeks. The TP
InsCo wrote to my insurers within two weeks taking full responsibility
and to me with a cheque for the excess at the same time - my NCB was
restored at that point. It's a good starting point, and the personal
injury claim was pretty much a formality after that - although I
dragged it out for my own benefit (six months of physio on the knee
started six months after the crash, for example).
My sincere commiserations to you both, but especially to sprog. Don't
let it put her off. The very best of luck, mate.
--
Pip: B12
dwb
"Pip" <NOSPAMgi...@OMITTHISgmail.com> wrote in message
news:um9li1pd2875rsrbo...@4ax.com...
>
> Take pictures.
I still think this helped speed up my case more than anything.
The plod had the pics, both insurance companies etc - you couldn't really
argue it :)
Donald
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
Sorry to hear that, get well soon to both of you.
--
Donald
CBR600RR3
K75S
Paul - xxx
> In article <3ovhd8F...@individual.net>, notchec...@hotmail.com
> says...
>> Boots Blakeley came up with the following;:
>>> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>>
>>> ... at which point the car appears to stop it's manoeuvre
>>
>> Why do they do that? Why the fuck don't they just floor it and try to
>> make room?
>
> Rabbit in headlights syndrome I suspect.
>
> Mind you, Pedestrians have a nasty habit of running backwards and
> forwards which is equally annoying, so just when you think you're aiming
> for the gap....
Yeah, as Jasper Carrotts [1] insurance claim joke went ..
".. I had to swerve a number of times before I hit him ...." ;)
[1] I think.
Bear
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Kinell, mate; glad you and she are (mostly) undamaged.
If there's anything I can do just give me a shout.
> Sussex police turned up during Wednesday in the hospital and
> apparently the drivers already told them that she didn't see us[4].
> She'd said as much to me, but by admitting to the police it will
> hopefully make the insurance claim less delayed than it otherwise
> might have been.
Be very careful. Some people try to slippery out of things later on;
make sure Sussex plod know you are making an accusation and you want the
case followed up on.
--
Bear
BMW 740iL - Stately progress for the mature gentleman
darsy
have you been trading tips with Whingeing Courier?
--
d.
Bear
> He even had his window down which allowed me, by virtue of my wearing my
> flip lid, to bellow "OI! YOU BLIND FUCKER!" at him from about 6 feet
> away. Didn't bat an eyelid.
The lights are on, but nobody's home ...
I had one in wales, where I got the living bejeebers cut out of me on a
roundabout under the M4 (across no fewer than /three/ lanes, FFS! And in
the Shaguar, so hardly invisible), and ended up on the inside of said
gimmer, heading up the local dual carriageway. Despite being alongside
him, with both of us having our windows down, it took a /good/ 30
seconds of Bear Ordinary Unleaded Shouty Abuse to even make him look
around, and even then the blind & deaf twat looked in the wrong
direction.
You can't seriously tell me euthanasia wouldn't be a decent option.
Dave
"Paul - xxx" <notchec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3ovhd8F...@individual.net...
> Boots Blakeley came up with the following;:
>> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
> Shit.
>
>> ... at which point the car appears to stop it's manoeuvre
>
> Why do they do that? Why the fuck don't they just floor it and try to
> make room?
Probably one of 2 things:
Rabbit in the lights syndrome (as mentioned elsewhere).
Or
'If I sit still, maybe the poor cunt I'm trying to kill will be able to
decide on the easiest way round this lump of shit I'm sat in'. They simply
don't realise that if you're hard on the stoppers, with a pillion up, there
is practically (absolutely?) NO WAY you're going to be able to steer round
them.
As Bear mantioned, euthanasia can't simply be dismissed in some cases.
GWS both.
TOG@toil chateau.murray@btinternet.com
Best way to do it.
I've just bought an accident damaged GPz550 to rob for parts for mine
(side panels, rack, whatever else is better)
for a song, as you can see. I'm simply going to break it and flog what
I don't want (as you can see, it hasn't got a V5 anyway).
If you have the time and space and tuits to pull the Fazer apart piece
by piece, it's the way to do it.
I really, really hope the blind bitch gets roasted.
TOG@toil chateau.murray@btinternet.com
>
> Binning it with one of the kids on the back is the one that I hope
> never happens.
>
That was the thought that went through my mind when I read this.
Nightmare scenario.
TOG@toil chateau.murray@btinternet.com
> >
> >Sorry to hear about the off, GWS to both of you.. didn't your Fazer have
> >something like 50K miles on it?
>
> Somewhere around 62K, may have been just short of 63, I honestly can't
> recall. That of course kills the value, whereas with a car it would be
> normal mileage for the age.
>
Get another speedo off Ebay, take a hammer to it to "match" the rest of
the bike, and bolt it on. ;-))
Ben
<notchec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Boots Blakeley came up with the following;:
>> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
>Shit.
>
>> ... at which point the car appears to stop it's manoeuvre
>
>Why do they do that? Why the fuck don't they just floor it and try to make
>room?
Rabbit + headlights scenario.
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Jeremy
TOG@toil chateau...@btinternet.com says...
>
> Get another speedo off Ebay, take a hammer to it to "match" the rest of
> the bike, and bolt it on. ;-))
>
Wind it *forward*?
Biz
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Dozy bint.
Is it me, or are the roads suddenly much worse than usual? I found a
biker knocked off his bike the other day, surrounded by a gaggle of
people. I think everyone's going out in what they think may be their
last jolly on cheap fuel. The traffic seems loads worse than usual, and
everyone's really stressed.
Your off was in the cunt'ry, mind, but jeez.
--
cheers
Biz
Kevin Seal
<bo...@despammed.com> writes
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
fully.
--
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FZS600 in Banana
{kevin at the hyphen seal hyphen house dot freeserve dot co dot uk}
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Boots Blakeley
<bo...@despammed.com> saying something like:
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Oooofff.
The blind cunt. Glad you're still alive though, and best wishes to you
and your offspring.
--
Dave
GS850 x2 XS650SE / SE 6a
Nidge
Long story short <snip>
Press the police very hard to prosecute.
This is not (simply) out of spite.
If the cage driver is convicted it simplifies your claim massively. If
she is not bet your donkey her insurers will try and lay some percentage
of teh blame on you. Its obscene, but its what they usually do.
If you have legal cover (and maybe even if you don't) select a lawyer who
specialises in this type of claim - plenty advertise in the bike press but
if anyone has specific recomendations fer him post now if you've not
already.
They should be well able to advise you on the finer points of their being
funded by your legal cover. If you don't have legal cover but are an RAC
or AA member they *used* to include this sort of support a sa freebie, now
they are trying to sell it ..... but ask anyway.
Glad you're both seem fundamentally OK.
Points to inclue in your own statement to the old bill include:
You're headlights were on.
You were wearing a high visibilty whatever.
You were driving well within the limit, saw her and slowed down but did
not brake as she appeared to look at you and you assumed that having seen
you she would behave correctly and not pull out.
You did not sound your horn until you saw her begin to move as it might
have been misinterpreted when she was not moving and have caused her to
think you were OK-ing her to pull out.
--
Nidge
Nidge
check her eye sight.
Seriously, lots of people who need 'em don't.
If she was wearing sunglasses tell 'em that (they may not be prescription
lenses).
--
Nidge
TOG@toil chateau.murray@btinternet.com
> In article <1126875835....@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> TOG@toil chateau...@btinternet.com says...
> >
> > Get another speedo off Ebay, take a hammer to it to "match" the rest of
> > the bike, and bolt it on. ;-))
> >
>
> Wind it *forward*?
Heh. Some years ago I had a set of Kawasaki GT750 clocks for sale.
Perfect nick, all electronics working, and 94,000 miles on the
odometer.
The potential buyer sucked his teeth and muttered something about not
really wanting that sort of mileage showing on his bike, and I pointed
out that in a few months or a year, maybe, it would click over to 00000
again.
Sold.
flash
"Bear" <bastard...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>Despite being alongside
> him, with both of us having our windows down, it took a /good/ 30
> seconds of Bear Ordinary Unleaded Shouty Abuse to even make him look
> around, and even then the blind & deaf twat looked in the wrong
> direction.
>
> You can't seriously tell me euthanasia wouldn't be a decent option.
You're not that ill surely?
Bear
Dan L
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
Makes my blood run cold.
Glad you are both alright-ish, could have been much worse I guess.
Anyhoo, GWS both of you.
--
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My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<bo...@despammed.com> typed
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Oh arse.
Sorry to hear about it mate. GWS to you and sprog.
--
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and Ducati Race Engineer.
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Dan L
I would be very wary of this.
If it turns out she should have been wearing specs her insco could possibly
have a valid exit clause.
Far better to claim off the insco than the driver.
Lady Nina
chateau...@btinternet.com" <chateau...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Is this a good time to remind you that it is less than a year until
our respective eldests head out on their own? Sooner for yours than
mine.
I think a few fingernails will get chewed the first time he's out
playing in the traffic.
--
Lady Nina
For a short while longer.
Lozzo
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:41:58 +0100 in uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN says:
>
> >Being involved in a bin with a pillion must be one of the most horrid
> >biking moments. I hope to never have to be a part of one.
>
> I slid on oil with a mate as pillion sometime around '77 but that
> wasn't bad. Bouncing my daughter down the road leaves me feeling
> really guilty, she keeps telling me there was no way of avoiding it
> but the guilt is still there.
My daughter threw me off the back of her RM125 when she wheelied. I
didn't stop cursing her for weeks as I recovered. It was my fault for
getting on a motocrosser with a slightly unhinged 15 year old girl at
the controls I suppose.
--
Lozzo
Track pixie
GSX-R1000 K1
Lozzo
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
> Emily's car failed it's MOT I am dropping her at work on my way.
> Approaching here
Bugger. Glad injuries are confined to mild orthopedic ones and nothing
more serious. Hope the pair of you get well soon, and don't beat
yourself up about it. It was not your fault.
The same could have happened in the car, and Emily could have been just
as badly hurt. Would you feel as guilty then?
Seriously, you can't blame yourself or feel guilty, but you can't stop
being her dad I suppose, and worrying goes with the territory.
Grimly Curmudgeon
<dann...@yodanet.demon.co.uk> saying something like:
>If it turns out she should have been wearing specs her insco could possibly
>have a valid exit clause.
I thought, in those circumstances, the ins co would cough up and then go
after her for re-imbursement?
There's some principle of insurance law involved, but I can't recall
quite what it is. Something about the ins co having to cover the risk,
and take it on the chin, else insurance becomes meaningless.
The Older Gentleman
>
> Is this a good time to remind you that it is less than a year until
> our respective eldests head out on their own? Sooner for yours than
> mine.
Two months, in fact.
>
> I think a few fingernails will get chewed the first time he's out
> playing in the traffic.
I know. I was chatting to my Ma about it the other night. There is *so
much* he needs to be told about... well, about just knowing when
somebody is going to do something silly.
Like:
When filtering up a line of stationary traffic, stay *right out* in the
other lane (oncoming traffic permitting) because someone *will* get
bored of sitting in the wueue and try to pull a U-turn. The extra couple
of feet give you better visibility and more room to maoeuvre.
In winter, watch for the exhaust plumes. The car's about to pull out
from the kerb, even though it hasn't indicated.
Just because the lights have turned green doesn't mean it's safe to pull
away. People jump the light often these days. Just check before going.
Gravel accumulates in the centre of junctions and is slippery.
Wet leaves are more slippery.
The geezer up there with steamed-up windows can't see you.
And more, and more and more. All the stuff you and I have learned over
the years, when the traffic was lighter and things less 'edgy'.
There's a really good article in Bike this month about risk and how good
aware riders are relaxed and their peripheral vision is taking in
everything and filtering it, and I thought (boasting apart): "That's how
I ride".
And I know he *will* crash because everyone bloody does.....
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The Older Gentleman
> If it turns out she should have been wearing specs her insco could possibly
> have a valid exit clause.
Not for third party damage/injury, I think.
Dan L
My lad didn't crash either the TS50 or the NSR, and was a pretty tidy rider
too.
Bastard now has a car though
The Older Gentleman
> My lad didn't crash either the TS50 or the NSR, and was a pretty tidy rider
> too.
>
> Bastard now has a car though
What a *waste*.
Dan L
> Dan L <dann...@yodanet.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> If it turns out she should have been wearing specs her insco could
>> possibly have a valid exit clause.
>
> Not for third party damage/injury, I think.
You could be right, particularly wrt injury, not sure about damage though (I
left the insurance industry years ago).
ISTR in such instances cover reverted to Road Traffic Act cover only, which
was basically only TP Injuries.
But wibble flip etc.
Bear
> My lad didn't crash either the TS50 or the NSR, and was a pretty tidy rider
> too.
>
> Bastard now has a car though
*sob*
*sniff*
It's always harsh when they go so bad, so young :(
YTC#1
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
GWS etc mate.
It must feel worse than normal with it being your daughter. The injuries
sound pretty harsh for such a low speed spill though. I hope it isn't her
cruciate as that can be a bitch.
--
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Dan L
> Dan L <dann...@yodanet.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> My lad didn't crash either the TS50 or the NSR, and was a pretty
>> tidy rider too.
>>
>> Bastard now has a car though
>
>
> What a *waste*.
I couldn't agree more.
He now has bugger all money, and what he does have gets wasted on more shiny
crap for his car.
I really could cry.
Dan L
> dann...@yodanet.demon.co.uk Dan L says...
>
>> My lad didn't crash either the TS50 or the NSR, and was a pretty
>> tidy rider too.
>>
>> Bastard now has a car though
>
> *sob*
>
> *sniff*
>
> It's always harsh when they go so bad, so young :(
You aren't wrong.
On the upside though, once the NSR is finally sold I'll have more room in my
shed.
Ferger
> When filtering up a line of stationary traffic, stay *right out* in
> the other lane (oncoming traffic permitting) because someone *will*
> get bored of sitting in the wueue and try to pull a U-turn. The extra
> couple of feet give you better visibility and more room to maoeuvre.
I learnt that one the hard way, about 15 years ago.
> Just because the lights have turned green doesn't mean it's safe to
> pull away. People jump the light often these days. Just check before
> going.
And that one, about 5 years ago
> Gravel accumulates in the centre of junctions and is slippery.
And that one, about 5 years ago. At the same time...
> Wet leaves are more slippery.
That one I thought pretty fucking obvious, but teenagers and
common-sense, never the twain shall meet.
> There's a really good article in Bike this month about risk and how
> good aware riders are relaxed and their peripheral vision is taking in
> everything and filtering it, and I thought (boasting apart): "That's
> how I ride".
Well, that's how I ride *now*...
> And I know he *will* crash because everyone bloody does.....
Yep. See above. Just hope he crashes safely, if you know what I
mean...minor injuries and damage are *a good thing*.
--
F
Sprint RS "Big Yellow"
COO#1
Owen
<bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
snip
Hope you both get well in short order... The guilt of offing with an
offspring will prolly go given a little time... It could've been worse
and it wasn't, at least let us be thankfull for that...
--
O
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Beav
"The Older Gentleman" <chateauSPAM...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
message news:1h2z0fo.nd4za8a9dyt0N%chateauSPAM...@dsl.pipex.com...
> Boots Blakeley <bo...@despammed.com> wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
> Shit, at least you're both in the land of the living. Blind bitch.
>
>
>> Sussex police turned up during Wednesday in the hospital and
>> apparently the drivers already told them that she didn't see us[4].
>> She'd said as much to me, but by admitting to the police it will
>> hopefully make the insurance claim less delayed than it otherwise
>> might have been.
>
> I'm afraid that is not an "admission". Hope for a prosecution.
Even that's no guarantee of a speedy end to things. Some blind cunt knocked
my brother off his bike and was prosecuted for driving without due care (and
convicted). That was close on 2 years ago and although he's had "some"
positive response, the case is still plodding along at it's own pace.
Probably because the insco gave him a "courtesy" bike which he had for 7
months, thus running up a bill (to them) in excess of the cost of the bike.
The stupid cow never even told her insurance company that she'd been
prosecuted and convicted for the offense when her insurance came up for
renewal. Smart move THAT was.
--
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changes)
Beav
"Boots Blakeley" <bo...@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:3ov56iF...@individual.net...
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Commiserations and glad to hear you annd the girl chic aren't ready for the
boneyard
>
> Sussex police turned up during Wednesday in the hospital and
> apparently the drivers already told them that she didn't see us[4].
> She'd said as much to me, but by admitting to the police it will
> hopefully make the insurance claim less delayed than it otherwise
> might have been.
Hope springs eternal, but don't hold your breath.
The Older Gentleman
> Just hope he crashes safely, if you know what I
> mean...minor injuries and damage are *a good thing*.
A truer word was never posted on ukrm. Amen.
The Older Gentleman
> Even that's no guarantee of a speedy end to things. Some blind cunt knocked
> my brother off his bike and was prosecuted for driving without due care (and
> convicted). That was close on 2 years ago and although he's had "some"
> positive response, the case is still plodding along at it's own pace.
> Probably because the insco gave him a "courtesy" bike which he had for 7
> months, thus running up a bill (to them) in excess of the cost of the bike.
>
> The stupid cow never even told her insurance company that she'd been
> prosecuted and convicted for the offense when her insurance came up for
> renewal. Smart move THAT was.
Your brother has a crap lawyer, IMHO.
Incidentally, Weggy (if you're reading this) - how's your case coming
along with The Rottweiler?
Paul Corfield
wrote:
>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
[snip]
GWS to you and yours.
--
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>The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Arse. GWS to you and yours.
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platypus
>
> Mind you, Pedestrians have a nasty habit of running backwards and
> forwards which is equally annoying, so just when you think you're
> aiming for the gap....
The "Panic Dance".
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an dem Kreuze lange
Boots Blakeley
chateau...@btinternet.com says:
>Boots Blakeley wrote:
>>
>> From the pictures I've seen no. Auntie Carol are going to give me 1st
>> crack at the salvage value,
>>
><Nods in approval>
>
>Best way to do it.
Swot I figured, they've said if the damage exceed ~£850 then it will
most likely be written off. Currently insured for £1800 but I've no
idea of a realistic value, other than more than they first offer :-)
>I really, really hope the blind bitch gets roasted.
I'll be calling the Police tomorrow to see what the current state of
play is and suggesting that I'd like to see them pursue it.
--
Ian
Boots Blakeley
>Boots Blakeley says...
>>
>> Bouncing my daughter down the road leaves me feeling
>> really guilty, she keeps telling me there was no way of avoiding it
>> but the guilt is still there.
>
>My daughter threw me off the back of her RM125 when she wheelied.
I don't think I'd have minded if she'd been driving and injured me.
--
Ian
Badger
>
> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
Much of what I want to say has been said, such as "arse", "shaft the
bitch with a 'due care and attention'" and GWS, but my main thoughts
were for your feelings of guilt - I frequently take my girls on my
bike, and I know I'd kick myself sore if I allowed anything like that
to happen. Given how I ride, I surely will, too, one day.
My other thought is on account of the fact that Cub#1 is in the
process of learning for her own bike licence, and while she has met
with the inevitable diesel on a roundabout and encountered a U-turning
cunt from a line of stationary traffic, she has yet to encounter
anything *serious*. I'll be pointing her towards this thread for the
various snippets from everyone.
GWS.
--
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NT650V
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Wicked Uncle Nigel
<sp...@housemartin.f9.co.uk> typed
>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:57:38 +0100, Boots Blakeley wrote:
>>
>> The classic, oh I didn't see you.
>
>Much of what I want to say has been said, such as "arse", "shaft the
>bitch with a 'due care and attention'" and GWS, but my main thoughts
>were for your feelings of guilt - I frequently take my girls on my
>bike, and I know I'd kick myself sore if I allowed anything like that
>to happen. Given how I ride, I surely will, too, one day.
Fret ye not, old chap. We'll be here to offer consolation and support to
her when it does.
>My other thought is on account of the fact that Cub#1 is in the
>process of learning for her own bike licence, and while she has met
>with the inevitable diesel on a roundabout and encountered a U-turning
>cunt from a line of stationary traffic, she has yet to encounter
>anything *serious*. I'll be pointing her towards this thread for the
>various snippets from everyone.
Oh. Damn.
--
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and Ducati Race Engineer.
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Beav
> Beav <beavis....@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote:
>
>> Even that's no guarantee of a speedy end to things. Some blind cunt
>> knocked
>> my brother off his bike and was prosecuted for driving without due care
>> (and
>> convicted). That was close on 2 years ago and although he's had "some"
>> positive response, the case is still plodding along at it's own pace.
>> Probably because the insco gave him a "courtesy" bike which he had for 7
>> months, thus running up a bill (to them) in excess of the cost of the
>> bike.
>>
>> The stupid cow never even told her insurance company that she'd been
>> prosecuted and convicted for the offense when her insurance came up for
>> renewal. Smart move THAT was.
>
> Your brother has a crap lawyer, IMHO.
Well he HAD a crap lawyer, so he changed and that's when things started
moving again. He got paid out for the damage to his bike, plus his injuries
(hip and pelvis), but the other fuckers insurance company are after him for
the cost of the courtesy bike they supplied (and apparently forgot about).
They won't get anything, but that doesn't stop 'em mithering. His new
solicitor is dealing with them now though, so hopefully, it'll die a death.
Owen
snip
> and my lardy carcass.
Well if she didn't see that, it must be an open and shut case...
You may wish to consider some personal body-tuning...
;-)
frag
> [1] I skinned my shin slightly in July raising a slight scab. There's
> still a fucking scar on my leg. My regenerative properties have
> really slowed down in the last 10 years.
I've got lots of scars from insect bites.
I think in 10 years time I'd bleed to death from a paper cut :(
--
frag
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The Older Gentleman
>
>
> I think the best place to shift the spare bits may be in a paddock at a
> race meeting.
<VBG>
About the only bits thus shiftable would be the brakes, I think.
You'd have more luck trying to fence MZ bits.
Champ
> "TOG@toil chateau...@btinternet.com"
><chateau...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
><1126874334....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>I've just bought an accident damaged GPz550 to rob for parts for mine
>>(side panels, rack, whatever else is better)
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4574299101&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
>>
>>for a song, as you can see. I'm simply going to break it and flog what
>>I don't want (as you can see, it hasn't got a V5 anyway).
>
>
>I think the best place to shift the spare bits may be in a paddock at a
>race meeting.
heh.
--
Champ
Bear
> 'course I've done this on a bit of private road where I hit my dog with
> both of my kids on a bike with no front brakes... Fortunately the only
> person damaged was me.
I think I remember that one. A quality bin, sir. Was it the 250RS?
--
Bear
BMW 740iL - Stately progress for the mature gentleman
Bear
> When I stop and think about it I'm glad in a way that I did a fair
> amount of tarmac-surfing in my teenage years, it hurt less then and
> damage healed faster[1].
> [1] I skinned my shin slightly in July raising a slight scab. There's
> still a fucking scar on my leg. My regenerative properties have really
> slowed down in the last 10 years.
Unreal innit? I had this with the hole-in-the-leg injury a couple of
years back, which took /months/ to heal, and then again recently with a
cut (done with my ultra-sharp kitchen knife) that took about 3 weeks to
properly heal. I mean, FFS.
Bear
> Bear <bastard...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> <MPG.1d961a0e2...@News.individual.DE>:
>
> >dead...@burnt.org.uk says...
> >
> >> 'course I've done this on a bit of private road where I hit my dog with
> >> both of my kids on a bike with no front brakes... Fortunately the only
> >> person damaged was me.
> >
> >I think I remember that one. A quality bin, sir. Was it the 250RS?
>
Indeedy. In a life, like mine, replete with truly dozy actions, you
excelled yourself that day. Nasty injury too, IIRC.
Boots Blakeley
><sucking eggs mode>
>
>Take pictures. I see you've got one, but get plenty.
Right, I've got a couple more but I'll go back and get some from her
POV.
>Do not throw anything
Most of it's in the garage although I think the hospital chucked some
of it.
>Get pics of all your (and sprog's) injuries - and 'progress' pics
Will do, Emily's home with her leg completely plastered. She had a MRI
today and we're back on Monday for the results and to find out what
else she may need in the way of surgery/treatment. I'll get CIGNA on
the case if it will either improve the outlook or speed up her
treatment.
>Seriously - the more ammo you have and the more angles you can cover,
>the more likely they are to roll straight over.
Aunty Carol's solicitors have written to Emily already and phoned me
this evening so they're on the case.
>My sincere commiserations to you both, but especially to sprog. Don't
>let it put her off. The very best of luck, mate.
Cheers, appreciate the thoughts and all the other folks that I've not
individually replied to.
--
Ian
Bear
> Will do, Emily's home with her leg completely plastered. She had a MRI
> today and we're back on Monday for the results and to find out what
> else she may need in the way of surgery/treatment. I'll get CIGNA on
> the case if it will either improve the outlook or speed up her
> treatment.
Best of luck to her and GWS.
> >Seriously - the more ammo you have and the more angles you can cover,
> >the more likely they are to roll straight over.
>
> Aunty Carol's solicitors have written to Emily already and phoned me
> this evening so they're on the case.
Keep the pressure on; solicitors often start fast, but fade away.
Bear
> IIRC they were a complete shower with getting a scan done so I ended up
> discharging myself a couple of times and returning the following
> morning. The quality of resource and people management in the health
> service is truely shocking. Fuck only knows where they get half of
> their staff from.
heh.
No comment :)
Badger
>
> My regenerative properties have really slowed down in the last 10 years.
"the Mending Apparatus was itself in need of repair."
Andy Bonwick
<dann...@yodanet.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Nidge wrote:
>> If she was *not* wearing glasses tell the old bill that too and ask
>> them to check her eye sight.
>>
>> Seriously, lots of people who need 'em don't.
>>
>> If she was wearing sunglasses tell 'em that (they may not be
>> prescription lenses).
>
>I would be very wary of this.
>
>If it turns out she should have been wearing specs her insco could possibly
>have a valid exit clause.
>
>Far better to claim off the insco than the driver.
I'd just let the police and insurers get on with it in their own way
and only create if the insurers suddenly started throwing problems in
my direction.
Going running to the police and trying to create problems by
commenting on who was wearing glasses and who wasn't isn't something
I'd want done to me in the event of an accident so I'm fucking sure I
wouldn't do it to someone else.
Dr Ivan D. Reid
wrote in <TBGWe.110025$G8.6...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:
> Suze wrote:
>> Mind you, Pedestrians have a nasty habit of running backwards and
>> forwards which is equally annoying, so just when you think you're
>> aiming for the gap....
> The "Panic Dance".
Grr... Had a young kid do that to me in Canberra one night. I
pulled out of the parking spot on the T500R as he and his father reached
the central dividing line (30 feet or so from a ped crossing, IIRC). I
aimed behind them and opened the throttle. Little blighter (10? or so?)
heard the induction roar and exhausts of two 250 cc two-stroke cylinders
-- and ran back across the lane to his mother still on the kerb! All brakes
and squealing tyres I missed him somehow and through a quickly-rising
adrenalin fog screamed at him never, *ever* to run back the way he'd
come.
When I got home a few minutes later, shaking like a leaf, I
discovered my headlight was off...
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sweller
> He even had his window down which allowed me, by virtue of my wearing
> my flip lid, to bellow "OI! YOU BLIND FUCKER!" at him from about 6 feet
> away. Didn't bat an eyelid.
I'd been filtering through traffic and was stationary waiting for the
oncoming traffic to sort itself. The car behind me decided to overtake
the line so it could turn right and nearly skittled me off.
I turned round doing the pointing at my eyes accompanied by various
mouthed 'opinions' [1] I then whacked open the throttle to get out of the
way straight into the path of a bus. Not at all cool and rufty tufty.
[1] Had I been a proper biker I would have gone back to the car and
raped the women; burnt down their houses and sold their children.
--
Simon