Proud Dad!
R C Nesbit
probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
today won a promotion to team leader!
--
Rob_P
UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk
uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl)
FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabriolet (gone)
Looks like Rab C Nesbit.
des
> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would probably
> agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around from the 16yo little
> shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and today won a promotion to team leader!
Is there a compelling reason why you don't have a blog?
--
des
'I want to tell you a terrific story about oral contraception. I asked
this girl to sleep with me and she said "No"'
(Woody Allen)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
Nige
"des" <d...@des.com> wrote in message news:css238-...@yahoo.co.il...
> R C Nesbit <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would probably
>> agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around from the 16yo little
>> shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> Is there a compelling reason why you don't have a log?
Jesus
wessie
> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> today won a promotion to team leader!
>
Hope he has better luck than a neighbour. Promoted to manager then a couple
of weeks later he got to read out the announcement that all 70 staff would
be made redundant, including himself. Meanwhile his predecessor had been
installed in the head office as HR manager and issued the redundancy
notices.
--
wessie at tesco dot net
BMW R1150GS
ogden
>
> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> today won a promotion to team leader!
Stiff competition at ASDA.
--
ogden
gsxr1000 - the gentleman's sports-tourer
ktm duke - the practical cross-town commuter
The Older Gentleman
> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> today won a promotion to team leader!
So he tells the others how to flip the burgers, then?
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250. Only seven bikes now.
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Tim
writes
wrong there Nige. I don't see Des accepting Jesus as the answer.
--
Tim
wessie
@news.eternal-september.org:
> R C Nesbit (sp...@ukrm.net) wrote:
>>
>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>> today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> Stiff competition at ASDA.
>
Wasn't it Chicken Cottage?[1]
[1] the name always makes me chuckle when I see a branch
Nige
"Tim" <t...@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hnZDNoH1...@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk...
even Baby cheeses?
Adrian
were saying:
> Wasn't it Chicken Cottage?[1]
>
> [1] the name always makes me chuckle when I see a branch
You are joking, aren't you? Nobody could... could they?
<pauses, googles carefully>
Oh.
http://www.chickencottage.com/
Bwahahahahaha...
Nige
"wessie" <putmyn...@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9E90C458D...@85.214.73.210...
Like you would do it, you would/could/should start a proper mutiny, burn
some cars etc.
R C Nesbit
> > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> > today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> So he tells the others how to flip the burgers, then?
Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
R C Nesbit
> > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> > today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> Stiff competition at ASDA.
See reply to TOG
Actually it is a proper job, in a proper factory, making high
value high-tec products.
Nige
"The Older Gentleman" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1jwwhsu.i3k6kpiiyxqvN%totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk...
> R C Nesbit <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>> today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> So he tells the others how to flip the burgers, then?
Whilst scraping customers shit off the bog walls.
wessie
@mid.individual.net:
I saw one in Cardiff last week, not far from the train station
Beav
"R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
news:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> today won a promotion to team leader!
You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow out of
them.
Now kicking them in the bollocks is another thing entirely.
--
Beav
Beav
You little ray of light. you.
--
Beav
des
Oops..
<fx: rereads>
Cunt! :-)
--
des
'Kaiser: "Can you prove the existence of G-d?"
Bismarck: "The Jews, your Majesty. The Jews"'
<http://www.palwatch.org/>
Another John
wrote:
> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> today won a promotion to team leader!
Speaking as the father of two sons, now thankfully closer to 30 than 20:
great news for you Rob, and well done to your lad -- doesn't matter
*who* he works for: a step up is a step up, in particular for him and
his own self-esteem. It's a wonderful moment when you can be genuinely
proud of the kid about whom you worried for so long.
I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
J.
Tim
writes
>Ogden spoke:
>> > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>> > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>> > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>> > today won a promotion to team leader!
>>
>> Stiff competition at ASDA.
>
>See reply to TOG
>
>Actually it is a proper job, in a proper factory, making high
>value high-tec products.
>
--
Tim
Tim
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> writes
--
Tim
ogden
>
> I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
Are you new around here or something?
Lozzo
> I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
Fuck off you bender.
I've helped drag up four kids, and none has been close to being thrown
out or in trouble with the police. It's down to parenting.
--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)
R C Nesbit
> >> Wasn't it Chicken Cottage?[1]
> >>
> >> [1] the name always makes me chuckle when I see a branch
> >
> > You are joking, aren't you? Nobody could... could they?
> >
> > <pauses, googles carefully>
> > Oh.
> > http://www.chickencottage.com
> >
>
> I saw one in Cardiff last week, not far from the train station
It must have been a mirage!
http://www.chickencottage.com/restaurants/restaurants.php?postco
de=cardiff
Wicked Uncle Nigel
<lal...@hotmail.com> typed
>
>I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
>simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
<sigh>
Here we go again...
--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"
Contains moderate bullshit and simulated opinions.
wessie
> Wessie spoke:
>> >> Wasn't it Chicken Cottage?[1]
>> >>
>> >> [1] the name always makes me chuckle when I see a branch
>> >
>> > You are joking, aren't you? Nobody could... could they?
>> >
>> > <pauses, googles carefully>
>> > Oh.
>> > http://www.chickencottage.com
>> > Bwahahahahaha...
>> >
>>
>> I saw one in Cardiff last week, not far from the train station
>
> It must have been a mirage!
>
> http://www.chickencottage.com/restaurants/restaurants.php?postco
> de=cardiff
>
that site is fucked - it doesn't find any in London either
R C Nesbit
> > I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> > simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>
> Fuck off you bender.
>
> I've helped drag up four kids, and none has been close to being thrown
> out or in trouble with the police. It's down to parenting.
I really don't know who is more pathetically ridiculous!
You, or the Dinkies who regularly spout parenting drivel.
steve auvache
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>"R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
>news:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>> today won a promotion to team leader!
>
>You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
>realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow out of
>them.
<Thinks about how my kids have changed since they were old enough to have
a personality>
Speaking as one with over a century of parent years under his belt: Nope,
that is just utter fucking bollox that is.
The only difference between the lives that was them then and those that
are them now is that they have to pay back what they borrow and the usurer
they borrowed it from makes a profit on the deal.
--
steve auvache
Another John
"Lozzo" <lo...@lozzo.org.uk> wrote:
> Fuck off you bender.
:-) Fairy nuff.
> I've helped drag up four kids, and none has been close to being thrown
> out or in trouble with the police. It's down to parenting.
Not entirely.
Ogden:
>Are you new around here or something?
No. In fact (on topic): I now remember that I stumbled in here in 2004
when I thought it would be a good place to ask about my son's Cagiva.
I like it here (in this dark, far corner of the room, dropping the odd
fart).
J.
petrolcan
>
> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> today won a promotion to team leader!
So you kicked your son out, he grew up without your influence and now
you're claiming the 'proud dad' routine?
Go fuck yourself!
des
>>Are you new around here or something?
> No. In fact (on topic): I now remember that I stumbled in here in 2004
So you know what's about to happen, then..?
--
des
'If the Arabs laid down their weapons today there would be no more
violence. If the Jews laid down their weapons today, there would be no
more Israel ...'
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
R C Nesbit
> So you kicked your son out, he grew up without your influence and now
> you're claiming the 'proud dad' routine?
Er... he came back 2 years ago!
> Go fuck yourself!
No, you are!
R C Nesbit
> Speaking as the father of two sons, now thankfully closer to 30 than 20:
> great news for you Rob, and well done to your lad -- doesn't matter
> *who* he works for: a step up is a step up, in particular for him and
> his own self-esteem. It's a wonderful moment when you can be genuinely
> proud of the kid about whom you worried for so long.
Cheers for that!
> I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
Now fuck off back under the rock you've crawled from!
;^) BTW
R C Nesbit
> >You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
> >realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow out of
> >them.
>
> <Thinks about how my kids have changed since they were old enough to have
> a personality>
>
> Speaking as one with over a century of parent years under his belt: Nope,
> that is just utter fucking bollox that is.
>
> The only difference between the lives that was them then and those that
> are them now is that they have to pay back what they borrow and the usurer
> they borrowed it from makes a profit on the deal.
I *think* I understand that, and I *think* I agree with you.
R C Nesbit
> So you know what's about to happen, then..?
Does anyone?
des
>
>> So you know what's about to happen, then..?
>
> Does anyone?
Anyone who knows the way UKRM reacts when someone [1] talks back.
[1] someone non-Clique, that is
--
des
'Israeli Arabs have more political rights than any other Arabs in the
Middle East, including their compatriats in the Palestinian Authority'
(Jack Schwartz)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
The Older Gentleman
> Ogden spoke:
> > > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> > > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> > > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> > > today won a promotion to team leader!
> >
> > Stiff competition at ASDA.
>
> See reply to TOG
>
> Actually it is a proper job, in a proper factory, making high
> value high-tec products.
Burger buns.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250. Only seven bikes now.
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
darsy
> In message <8s7uloF8q...@mid.individual.net>, Nige <n...@btinternet.com>
> writes
>
> >"des" <d...@des.com> wrote in messagenews:css238-...@yahoo.co.il...
> >> R C Nesbit <s...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
> >>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would probably
> >>> agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around from the 16yo little
> >>> shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> >Jesus
>
> wrong there Nige. I don't see Des accepting Jesus as the answer.
why not? He was a good Jew-boy after all.
--
d.
darsy
> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote in news:MPG.27c8dda2cb62f3e1989712
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > R C Nesbit (s...@ukrm.net) wrote:
>
> >> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> >> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> >> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> >> today won a promotion to team leader!
>
>
> Wasn't it Chicken Cottage?[1]
>
> [1] the name always makes me chuckle when I see a branch
me too - especially the branded napkins.
Similarly: the old "We're having chicken tonight" ads.
--
d.
darsy
> "R C Nesbit" <s...@ukrm.net> wrote in messagenews:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
>
> > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> > today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> You should never kick your kids out.
probably not. On the other hand, I left home of my own accord when I
was 19. 3rd best thing I've ever done.
--
d.
darsy
> >Similarly: the old "We're having chicken tonight" ads.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOVBXL3Jcz4
"butter and tarragon" - odd flavour for a lube.
I'm a fan of the Body Shop's coconut-scented massage oil myself.
--
d.
Tosspot
>
>
> "des" <d...@des.com> wrote in message news:css238-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>> agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around from the 16yo little
>>> shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and today won a promotion to team leader!
>>
>
>
> Jesus
You called?
stephen...@gonemail.com
> "R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
> news:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
> > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> > today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
> realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow out of
> them.
I don't know about that. But I guess I've been lucky with my kids-
don't smoke, don't take drugs, don't steal etc. (and I'm not being
unaware).
However I couldn't really see the circumstances that would have led me
to kick a 16 year old child out. Looks pretty despicable behaviour to
me really, I certainly wouldn't admit to it if I'd done it.
Beav
"Tim" <t...@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:rl7htUK9...@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk...
I was expecting a "Bad Dad" clip there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUT2modgIVA
--
Beav
Beav
"steve auvache" <dont...@thecow.me.uk> wrote in message
news:n9ntl6tvg6vucvg9b...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:07:47 -0000, "Beav"
> <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
>>news:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
>>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>>> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>>> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>>> today won a promotion to team leader!
>>
>>You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
>>realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow out
>>of
>>them.
>
> <Thinks about how my kids have changed since they were old enough to have
> a personality>
So how old were your kids when you discovered they had a personality?
>
> Speaking as one with over a century of parent years under his belt: Nope,
> that is just utter fucking bollox that is.
You have your opinion, I'll have mine. If you're man enough to father
children, you should be man enough to bring them up properly and not kick
them out when things get rough.
>
> The only difference between the lives that was them then and those that
> are them now is that they have to pay back what they borrow and the usurer
> they borrowed it from makes a profit on the deal.
Yeah, well.
--
Beav
Beav
"darsy" <dar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fcf9f998-a9eb-419a...@m13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
It was your choice though and that's fine. Kids fly the nest when they feel
ready to. When I left home it was because I didn't feel like I was safe or
wanted and that's not something a kid should be faced with. I was 15 at the
time.
My son, who never had a hand raised to him left home when he rented his
first flat at 19. He's still got a key to my place too and he can come back
any time he wants. And he knows it.
--
Beav
Beav
<stephen...@gonemail.com> wrote in message
news:1jwxn4j.17xho8d1lthc1zN%stephen...@gonemail.com...
> Beav <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>> "R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
>> news:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
>> > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>> > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>> > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>> > today won a promotion to team leader!
>>
>> You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
>> realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow out
>> of
>> them.
>
> I don't know about that. But I guess I've been lucky with my kids-
> don't smoke, don't take drugs, don't steal etc. (and I'm not being
> unaware).
If he's ever been to more than one "rave", he's done drugs.
>
> However I couldn't really see the circumstances that would have led me
> to kick a 16 year old child out. Looks pretty despicable behaviour to
> me really, I certainly wouldn't admit to it if I'd done it.
My thoughts exactly.
--
Beav
steve auvache
No he wasn't. As a role model for your averge kyke he was rather a poor
one. He was into peace love and understanding don't forget.
--
steve auvache
steve auvache
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>"steve auvache" <dont...@thecow.me.uk> wrote in message
>news:n9ntl6tvg6vucvg9b...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:07:47 -0000, "Beav"
>> <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
>>>news:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
>>>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>>>> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>>>> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>>>> today won a promotion to team leader!
>>>
>>>You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
>>>realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow out
>>>of
>>>them.
>>
>> <Thinks about how my kids have changed since they were old enough to have
>> a personality>
>
>So how old were your kids when you discovered they had a personality?
Dunno, I don't wear a watch, but probably no more than an hour or so.
>> Speaking as one with over a century of parent years under his belt: Nope,
>> that is just utter fucking bollox that is.
>
>You have your opinion, I'll have mine. If you're man enough to father
>children, you should be man enough to bring them up properly and not kick
>them out when things get rough.
Kin right, never wait until it gets rough, get rid of them as soon as you
can get the right price.
>>
>> The only difference between the lives that was them then and those that
>> are them now is that they have to pay back what they borrow and the usurer
>> they borrowed it from makes a profit on the deal.
>
>Yeah, well.
--
steve auvache
R C Nesbit
> Beav <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
> > realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow out of
> > them.
>
> I don't know about that. But I guess I've been lucky with my kids-
> don't smoke, don't take drugs, don't steal etc. (and I'm not being
> unaware).
>
> However I couldn't really see the circumstances that would have led me
> to kick a 16 year old child out. Looks pretty despicable behaviour to
> me really, I certainly wouldn't admit to it if I'd done it.
Well you don't know the circumstances, do you?
Also, my mistake, he was actually 17 at the time.
Suffice to say that the episode the final straw in a long struggle to keep him
on the level after he fell in with some really bad kids.
The shock actually did him good, he has turned himself around and is currently
living at home - has been for 2 years.
The kids he fell in with are still bad eggs, living off their wits, on the
social, thieving, drugs, etc. and haven't held down a paying job in their
miserable lives.
wessie
news:7s8vl6p7018o8v0g9...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:49:54 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 19, 10:39 am, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:31:59 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> >Similarly: the old "We're having chicken tonight" ads.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOVBXL3Jcz4
>>
>>
>>"butter and tarragon" - odd flavour for a lube.
>>
>>I'm a fan of the Body Shop's coconut-scented massage oil myself.
>
> LOL! - well done. Not quite the response I expected.
can you still get "butter basted chicken" or butterball chciken?
Andy Bonwick
It's well known that my daughter spent a couple of years 'going off
the rails' and at one point we told her she had to stop at her
grandparents house after one of her 'friends' stole something from
here and she refused to say who'd done it. I think she was about 18 or
19 at the time so the ages are obviously different but it's still not
easy to tell them to pack their bags and move out.
A number of people know the background regarding what went wrong for
Jennifer between the ages of about 15 & 19 but she sorted herself out
and is the first to admit that she wasn't a very pleasant person to
deal with on a number of occasions. Kids grow out of their dodgy
periods and you have to hope that any damage caused to the
relationship between them and their parents isn't permanent.
Nige
> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> today won a promotion to team leader!
You're a cunt for throwing him out in the first place & and even bigger cunt
for trying to take credit for how the lad has turned out without your input.
Cunt.
--
Nige,
'That's shot the fox'
Eunos Roadster (for summer)
Grand Cherokee (for winter)
SteveH
> "R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
> news:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
> > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> > today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> You should never kick your kids out.
To be fair, it could be said that being kicked out and being away from
the influence of Rope has turned his life around ;)
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SteveH
darsy
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:49:54 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Feb 19, 10:39 am, Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:31:59 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >Similarly: the old "We're having chicken tonight" ads.
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOVBXL3Jcz4
>
> >"butter and tarragon" - odd flavour for a lube.
>
> >I'm a fan of the Body Shop's coconut-scented massage oil myself.
>
hey, I wasn't even joking.
Not with the current ex-, but with the previous but the ...err, can't
quite remember...4th-ex-ago - the Body Shop stuff got fairly regularly
used[1].
We stayed in a house-share place for a couple of months, rented by my
old mate B. whilst he was back in NI, back in the '80s, in Ilford of
all places, and he complained afterwards that his mattress smelt so
much of coconut, cum, and pussy-juice that he'd had to get rid of it.
[1] when we were quite young (19/18 or so) and experimenting, we'd not
realised lube was required for anal sex - quite a painful wake-up
call. But we soon learned.
--
d.
darsy
> Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote innews:7s8vl6p7018o8v0g9...@4ax.com:
this isn't another gaylord euphemism, is it, like "tea-bagging" or
"docking"[1] or something?
[1] possibly the stupidest sexual act I've ever heard of.
--
d.
darsy
> "Tim" <t...@nospam.osvif.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>
>
>
>
> > In message <8s7uloF8q...@mid.individual.net>, Nige <n...@btinternet.com>
> > writes
>
> >>"des" <d...@des.com> wrote in messagenews:css238-...@yahoo.co.il...
> >>> R C Nesbit <s...@ukrm.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around from the 16yo little
> >>>> shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and today won a promotion to team
> >>>> leader!
>
> >>Jesus
> > I can't be sure on these matters, but it crosses my mind that you're wrong
> > there Nige. I don't see Des accepting Jesus as the answer.
>
'"Cheeses of Nazarath" - a joint production between Kraft and the
Church.'
--
d.
darsy
like Ariel Sharon - exactly!
--
d.
wessie
236ffb...@x1g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 19, 2:37 pm, wessie <putmynameh...@tesco.net> wrote:
>> Paul Corfield <aoo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote
innews:7s8vl6p7018o8v0g90095td
> jiiia...@4ax.com:
>
>> > On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 02:49:54 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>
>> >>"butter and tarragon" - odd flavour for a lube.
>>
>> >>I'm a fan of the Body Shop's coconut-scented massage oil myself.
>>
>> > LOL! - well done. Not quite the response I expected.
>>
>> can you still get "butter basted chicken" or butterball chciken?
>
> this isn't another gaylord euphemism,
Not that I know of. Just the product name amuses me but I never go anywhere
near the frozen chicken section so have no idea if these products are still
available. Amazing to think they were considered premium products at one
time, alongside Berni Inns & prawn cocktail.
--
wessie at tesco dot net
BMW R1150GS
darsy
> prawn cocktail.
it used to be that the height of sophistication at a "dinner party"
was a prawn cocktail starter (on shredded iceberg lettuce, of course),
followed by something like "chille con carne" with rice, and
*shockingly*, in the '70s, *garlic bread*. Followed by Torte, and all
washed down with Blue Nun or Black Tower.
--
d.
Champ
wrote:
>On Feb 19, 3:47 pm, wessie <putmynameh...@tesco.net> wrote:
Wot, no Black Forest Gateau?
--
Champ
We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo
neal at champ dot org dot uk
darsy
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:09:42 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Feb 19, 3:47 pm, wessie <putmynameh...@tesco.net> wrote:
> >> prawn cocktail.
>
> >it used to be that the height of sophistication at a "dinner party"
> >was a prawn cocktail starter (on shredded iceberg lettuce, of course),
> >followed by something like "chille con carne" with rice, and
> >*shockingly*, in the '70s, *garlic bread*. Followed by Torte, and all
> >washed down with Blue Nun or Black Tower.
>
> Wot, no Black Forest Gateau?
If you were lucky. My mum "specialised" in torte. Though if we went
round their friends Richard & Daphne's (what a great '70s name
"Daphne" is) we might get BFG[0], or if they were being lazy, Arctic
Roll.
I remember being allowed to eat the garlic bread that my parents
wouldn't eat (it was OK to serve it, no-one actually ate it) and
playing Richard's Washburn sort-of-strat-replica - fuck me, this must
have been about 1977 or so, 'cos "Star Wars" had just been released,
and I sort of "mastered" the theme tune on said guitar.
And then everyone drove home about 4am, drunk[1].
Great days, the '70s.
[0] we're *Doomed*[2]
[1] the police in NI in the 1970s had other things to worry about
other than drink-driving.
[2] sorry Neal, you may not get this reference.
--
d.
steve robinson
If as they mature the person can see and admit what they did was
wrong then i think the relationship can be far stronger unfortunatly
many can never see thier own faults and get consumed by the anger.
Nige
"Another John" <lal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lalaw44-28C450...@surfnet-nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.196.x.invalid...
> In article <VA.000032f...@ukrm.net>, R C Nesbit <sp...@ukrm.net>
>
> I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
Shut the fuck up you silly cunt.
Champ
wrote:
>> >> prawn cocktail.
>> >it used to be that the height of sophistication at a "dinner party"
>> >was a prawn cocktail starter (on shredded iceberg lettuce, of course),
>> >followed by something like "chille con carne" with rice, and
>> >*shockingly*, in the '70s, *garlic bread*. Followed by Torte, and all
>> >washed down with Blue Nun or Black Tower.
>> Wot, no Black Forest Gateau?
>If you were lucky. My mum "specialised" in torte. Though if we went
>round their friends Richard & Daphne's (what a great '70s name
>"Daphne" is)
Isn't it just!
>we might get BFG[0]
>And then everyone drove home about 4am, drunk[1].
>
>Great days, the '70s.
Finally, you come round my point view!
>[0] we're *Doomed*[2]
>[1] the police in NI in the 1970s had other things to worry about
>other than drink-driving.
>[2] sorry Neal, you may not get this reference.
Sorry, no, I don't.
--
Champ
We declare that the splendour of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
Beav
There was a public bog next to A1 guitars in Manchester in the late 70's
that stunk of coconut oil. The bog was next to a blue movie theatre too, so
I'm thnking there's a connection, but all I know for sure it that oil
*really* stinks.
In those days, getting to use the bogs in a shop was fucking impossible for
a normal punter, but thankfully once you'd been to A1 a time or two
(hundred) they caved and let some of us use theirs and it was either that or
get home with a bursting bladder. Manchester are in the process now of
closing all but one of it's public bogs and I'm thinking the guitar
shop/blue movie bogs are the ones that won't go.
--
Beav
Beav
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:05:40 -0000, "Beav"
> <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"steve auvache" <dont...@thecow.me.uk> wrote in message
>>news:n9ntl6tvg6vucvg9b...@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:07:47 -0000, "Beav"
>>> <beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:VA.000032f...@ukrm.net...
>>>>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>>>>> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>>>>> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>>>>> today won a promotion to team leader!
>>>>
>>>>You should never kick your kids out. Adults should have the maturity to
>>>>realize that kids go through phases and generally speaking, they grow
>>>>out
>>>>of
>>>>them.
>>>
>>> <Thinks about how my kids have changed since they were old enough to
>>> have
>>> a personality>
>>
>>So how old were your kids when you discovered they had a personality?
>
> Dunno, I don't wear a watch, but probably no more than an hour or so.
So "Thinks about how my kids have changed since they were old enough to have
a personality" is basically a load of old bollocks then.
>>> Speaking as one with over a century of parent years under his belt:
>>> Nope,
>>> that is just utter fucking bollox that is.
>>
>>You have your opinion, I'll have mine. If you're man enough to father
>>children, you should be man enough to bring them up properly and not kick
>>them out when things get rough.
>
> Kin right, never wait until it gets rough, get rid of them as soon as you
> can get the right price.
How much did you let yours go for and more importantly, how's the guitar
playing going?
--
Beav
Beav
"SteveH" <itali...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Cunt :-)
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Beav
"Nige" <de...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:8sa4m6...@mid.individual.net...
> R C Nesbit wrote:
>> I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
>> probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
>> from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
>> today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> You're a cunt for throwing him out in the first place & and even bigger
> cunt for trying to take credit for how the lad has turned out without your
> input.
I've been thinking about this and I recall Rob posting various notes about
how Ross has been back home for a fair while now and got past "The Time".
Fuck me, he's even got a legal bike, so although I utterly detest the
thought of parents turfing their offspring out on their ear, Rob did at
least let him come back home and now the boy is heading in the right
direction. I'm of a mind to say "Good on yer Ross", but then follow that up
with "but don't ever kick your own kids out of their home"
--
Beav
steve auvache
<beavis....@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>So "Thinks about how my kids have changed since they were old enough to have
>a personality" is basically a load of old bollocks then.
Would you expect less? My kids haven't changed at all, they are the
people they always.
>How much did you let yours go for and more importantly, how's the guitar
>playing going?
More slowly than I would like. I am having troubles getting motivated
about things at the moment and so am not doing it every day which means
the muscles and the calluses and stuff are not building quickly enough,
which means I lose motivation.... but I can go a little longer before I
get cramp in my picking hand so it is not all bad and I have made me some
carbon picks[1], which sound really quite sweet.
[1] From some 0.8mm carbon sheet I had left over from my aeromodelling
days. Balsa,, even the really expensive competition grade "C" grain
stuff, is fucking crap.
--
steve auvache
stephen...@gonemail.com
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:55:31 +0000, stephen...@gonemail.com wrote:
<snip>
> >However I couldn't really see the circumstances that would have led me
> >to kick a 16 year old child out. Looks pretty despicable behaviour to
> >me really, I certainly wouldn't admit to it if I'd done it.
>
> It's well known that my daughter spent a couple of years 'going off
> the rails' and at one point we told her she had to stop at her
> grandparents house
A little different from how I read kicked out. Told to live somewhere
else but still with a roof over her head.
<snip>
> A number of people know the background regarding what went wrong for
> Jennifer between the ages of about 15 & 19 but she sorted herself out
> and is the first to admit that she wasn't a very pleasant person to
> deal with on a number of occasions. Kids grow out of their dodgy
> periods and you have to hope that any damage caused to the
> relationship between them and their parents isn't permanent.
As I've admitted above, I've been lucky. Long may it remain that way...
Maybe my grandchildren will be more like me than my children.
stephen...@gonemail.com
> Stephen...@gonemail.com spoke:
> > I don't know about that. But I guess I've been lucky with my kids-
> > don't smoke, don't take drugs, don't steal etc. (and I'm not being
> > unaware).
> >
> > However I couldn't really see the circumstances that would have led me
> > to kick a 16 year old child out. Looks pretty despicable behaviour to
> > me really, I certainly wouldn't admit to it if I'd done it.
>
> Well you don't know the circumstances, do you?
You're right, I don't.
> Also, my mistake, he was actually 17 at the time.
>
> Suffice to say that the episode the final straw in a long struggle to keep him
> on the level after he fell in with some really bad kids.
>
> The shock actually did him good, he has turned himself around and is currently
> living at home - has been for 2 years.
Glad it worked out. My fear would have been that he went from bad to
worse if it was one of mine. Still not sure of the circumstances I'd
need to suffer for this to happen. Fortunately it's not been tested.
> The kids he fell in with are still bad eggs, living off their wits, on the
> social, thieving, drugs, etc. and haven't held down a paying job in their
> miserable lives.
As above my fear would have been 'kicking him out' would have pushed him
closer to them, removing my influence.
But as you've pointed out I don't know the circumstances.
Still pretty sure that whatever the circumstances I wouldn't have kicked
one of my children out though.,
stephen...@gonemail.com
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:37:02 +0000, Another John <lal...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> >simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>
> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
Completely different.
stephen...@gonemail.com
> R C Nesbit wrote:
> > I never thought I would say this, and regular readers would
> > probably agree, but #1 son Ross has turned his life around
> > from the 16yo little shit I kicked out 5 years ago, and
> > today won a promotion to team leader!
>
> You're a cunt for throwing him out in the first place & and even bigger cunt
> for trying to take credit for how the lad has turned out without your input.
>
> Cunt.
Say what you're thinking.
R C Nesbit
> You're a cunt for throwing him out in the first place & and even bigger cunt
> for trying to take credit for how the lad has turned out without your input.
>
> Cunt.
Go fuck yourself
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FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabriolet (gone)
Looks like Rab C Nesbit.
R C Nesbit
> I've been thinking about this and I recall Rob posting various notes about
> how Ross has been back home for a fair while now and got past "The Time".
>
> Fuck me, he's even got a legal bike, so although I utterly detest the
> thought of parents turfing their offspring out on their ear, Rob did at
> least let him come back home and now the boy is heading in the right
> direction. I'm of a mind to say "Good on yer Ross", but then follow that up
> with "but don't ever kick your own kids out of their home"
It's a bit like politics, isn't it!
We all moan like fuck when a new gov't gets into power when they renege on
their manifestos, but we don't know the details and circumstances they are
faced with once they get into reality.
R C Nesbit
> > I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> > simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>
> Shut the fuck up you silly cunt.
Look Nige, either come out with something approaching intelligent
conversations, or just STFU. OK?
R C Nesbit
> > >I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> > >simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
> >
> > And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
>
> Completely different.
<Mode: WUN>
Here we go again!
darsy
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:33:50 -0800 (PST), darsy <dar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >we might get BFG[0]
> >[0] we're *Doomed*[2]
> >[2] sorry Neal, you may not get this reference.
>
> Sorry, no, I don't.
it's a video game thing. You mentioned "Black Forest Gateau" which I
referred to as "BFG" which immediately reminded me of the "BFG" in the
(nearly[1]) original 1st-person shooter "Doom" i.e. the "Big Fucking
Gun".
[1] I think Wolfenstein 3D was really the first, certainly it pre-
dated Doom.
--
d.
darsy
> "darsy" <dar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> There was a public bog next to A1 guitars in Manchester in the late 70's
> that stunk of coconut oil. The bog was next to a blue movie theatre too, so
> I'm thnking there's a connection, but all I know for sure it that oil
> *really* stinks.
it really stinks of coconut - which is why it's useful in an anal sex
situation.
--
d.
Nige
Probably a bit harsh, but i could have easily gone the wrong way, kicking me
out would have been the worse thing to do.
--
Nige,
'That's shot the fox'
Eunos Roadster (for summer)
Grand Cherokee (for winter)
Nige
> Nige spoke:
>>> I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
>>> simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>>
>> Shut the fuck up you silly cunt.
>
> Look Nige, either come out with something approaching intelligent
> conversations, or just STFU. OK?
Bit rich coming from you, ffs.
Nige
Do you find he gets shit on his knob?
darsy
> darsy wrote:
> > On Feb 19, 8:21 pm, "Beav" <beavis.origi...@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
> >> "darsy" <dar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> There was a public bog next to A1 guitars in Manchester in the late 70's
> >> that stunk of coconut oil. The bog was next to a blue movie theatre too,
> >> so
> >> I'm thnking there's a connection, but all I know for sure it that oil
> >> *really* stinks.
>
> > it really stinks of coconut - which is why it's useful in an anal sex
> > situation.
>
> Do you find he gets shit on his knob?
who?
--
d.
Nige
whooosh!
72degrees
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:33:10 +0000, stephen.pac...@gonemail.com wrote:
> >Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> >> >simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>
> >> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
>
> >Completely different.
>
> father took and understand why he took them. And adapt those
> decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I don't buy the
> idea that someone with no children cannot have a view on parenting.
Indeed. I sometimes fear that I am turning in to my father, but I
usually realise before it's too late and take a different line with
the lad. Only time will tell whether that's a good thing or not.
Nige
"R C Nesbit" <sp...@ukrm.net> wrote in message
news:VA.0000330...@ukrm.net...
> Nige spoke:
>> You're a cunt for throwing him out in the first place & and even bigger
>> cunt
>> for trying to take credit for how the lad has turned out without your
>> input.
>>
>> Cunt.
>
> Go fuck yourself
>
It's a tasty fish, reel it in :)
Colin Irvine
>I dunno. Now as an adult, I can look at the decisions and actions my
>father took and understand why he took them. And adapt those
>decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I don't buy the
>idea that someone with no children cannot have a view on parenting.
Agreed. Most of my parenting decisions were based on what I thought my
mother would have done had it been her and me.
--
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk
Thomas
> darsy wrote:
> > On Feb 20, 12:25 pm, "Nige" <de...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> darsy wrote:
> >>> On Feb 19, 8:21 pm, "Beav" <beavis.origi...@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
> >>>> "darsy" <dar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>> There was a public bog next to A1 guitars in Manchester in the late
> >>>> 70's
> >>>> that stunk of coconut oil. The bog was next to a blue movie theatre
> >>>> too,
> >>>> so
> >>>> I'm thnking there's a connection, but all I know for sure it that oil
> >>>> *really* stinks.
>
> >>> it really stinks of coconut - which is why it's useful in an anal sex
> >>> situation.
>
> >> Do you find he gets shit on his knob?
>
> > who?
>
> whooosh!
I think it's more of a shlurp.
R C Nesbit
> >> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
> >
> >Completely different.
>
> father took and understand why he took them. And adapt those
> decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I don't buy the
> idea that someone with no children cannot have a view on parenting.
Yes, I'm not denying that, and my own actions have been influenced by
my parent's example - but they were a different generation, with
different values, and my kids are yet another generation with different
values, so to apply the parenting style/rules/whatever of, in my case,
parents born before 1920, to kids born 70 years later requires some
degree of modification.
I like to think I have passed on some of their principles and morals,
but not all, because some are outdated, outmoded, and irrelevant to
today.
steve robinson
> Ben spoke:
> > >> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
> > >
> > > Completely different.
> >
> > I dunno. Now as an adult, I can look at the decisions and
> > actions my father took and understand why he took them. And
> > adapt those decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I
> > don't buy the idea that someone with no children cannot have a
> > view on parenting.
>
> Yes, I'm not denying that, and my own actions have been influenced
> by my parent's example - but they were a different generation, with
> different values, and my kids are yet another generation with
> different values, so to apply the parenting style/rules/whatever
> of, in my case, parents born before 1920, to kids born 70 years
> later requires some degree of modification.
>
> I like to think I have passed on some of their principles and
> morals, but not all, because some are outdated, outmoded, and
> irrelevant to today.
Remembering of course your children will ultimatly pick your nurseing
home
Champ
>>> >I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
>>> >simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>>> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
>>Completely different.
>I dunno. Now as an adult, I can look at the decisions and actions my
>father took and understand why he took them. And adapt those
>decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I don't buy the
>idea that someone with no children cannot have a view on parenting.
I'd go further than that. All (honest) parents admit that you make it
up as you go along, so why is someone without kids disqualified from
having an opinion. In the last 3 1/2 years of being a step-father,
there's been no epiphany moment of "oh, *that's* why parents are all
so smug about it".
--
Champ
We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo
neal at champ dot org dot uk
steve auvache
>On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:50:15 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> >I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
>>>> >simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>
>>>> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
>
>>>Completely different.
>
>>I dunno. Now as an adult, I can look at the decisions and actions my
>>father took and understand why he took them. And adapt those
>>decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I don't buy the
>>idea that someone with no children cannot have a view on parenting.
>
>I'd go further than that. All (honest) parents admit that you make it
>up as you go along, so why is someone without kids disqualified from
>having an opinion.
It has been a while since I had no experience of parenthood but from what
I remember of those days it is not so much a matter of disqualification as
a total lack of it in the first place. Making it up as you go along is
what you do for the first one, learning from experience is what you
(should) do for all the subsequent ones.
> In the last 3 1/2 years of being a step-father,
>there's been no epiphany moment of "oh, *that's* why parents are all
>so smug about it".
Well of course not but had you been there from the start you would almost
certainly have a different view on the matter.
And while we are on about who or what does or doesn't make a good parent
you all seem to be missing the contribution of the mothers and for that
you should all be ashamed of yourselves. As for all the willy waving that
has gone on in this thread there is not one of you who has half the skills
or talents at parenting than the worst of them.
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steve auvache
stephen...@gonemail.com
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:50:15 +0000, Ben <b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
> >>> >I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
> >>> >simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>
> >>> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
>
> >>Completely different.
>
> >I dunno. Now as an adult, I can look at the decisions and actions my
> >father took and understand why he took them. And adapt those
> >decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I don't buy the
> >idea that someone with no children cannot have a view on parenting.
>
> I'd go further than that. All (honest) parents admit that you make it
> up as you go along, so why is someone without kids disqualified from
> having an opinion. In the last 3 1/2 years of being a step-father,
> there's been no epiphany moment of "oh, *that's* why parents are all
> so smug about it".
You're completely right that it's mostly made up whilst one goes
along... at first but, with time, it's built on experience.
Parenting gives you the experience which is completely different from
being parented.
Higgins
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:50:15 +0000, Ben<b...@bensalesDOTME.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>> I'd guess that those displaying the traditional UKRM "hard-man" scorn
>>>>> simply have never [knowingly] had kids.
>
>>>> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
>
>>> Completely different.
>
>> I dunno. Now as an adult, I can look at the decisions and actions my
>> father took and understand why he took them. And adapt those
>> decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I don't buy the
>> idea that someone with no children cannot have a view on parenting.
>
> I'd go further than that. All (honest) parents admit that you make it
> up as you go along, so why is someone without kids disqualified from
> having an opinion.
The key difference is that parents know that they don't know all the answers
R C Nesbit
> >> And yet a lot of us have been sons to fathers.
> >
> >Completely different.
>
> father took and understand why he took them. And adapt those
> decisions and actions to my own son and views. So I don't buy the
> idea that someone with no children cannot have a view on parenting.
Yes, I'm not denying that, and my own actions have been influenced by
my parent's example - but they were a different generation, with
different values, and my kids are yet another generation with different
values, so to apply the parenting style/rules/whatever of, in my case,
parents born before 1920, to kids born 70 years later requires some
degree of modification.
I like to think I have passed on some of their principles and morals,
but not all, because some are outdated, outmoded, and irrelevant to
today.
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