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Wicked Uncle Nigel
Mar 16, 2012, 5:34:38 PM3/16/12
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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Krusty
<dontw...@nowhere.invalid> typed
>sweller wrote:
>
>>
>> These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow
>> over the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier
>> frames - which are currently various shades of the standard military
>> drab.
>>
>> See here for its general colour:
>> http://www.sweller.co.uk/armstrongsnow/#4
>>
>> I reckon RAL6014: http://www.felgendienst.ch/docs/RAL-Farbtabelle.pdf
>>
>> What shade say you?
>
>RAL4010.
No, *you* are.
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<dontw...@nowhere.invalid> typed
>sweller wrote:
>
>>
>> These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow
>> over the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier
>> frames - which are currently various shades of the standard military
>> drab.
>>
>> See here for its general colour:
>> http://www.sweller.co.uk/armstrongsnow/#4
>>
>> I reckon RAL6014: http://www.felgendienst.ch/docs/RAL-Farbtabelle.pdf
>>
>> What shade say you?
>
>RAL4010.
No, *you* are.
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Contains moderate bullshit and simulated opinions.
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zymurgy
Mar 16, 2012, 5:46:29 PM3/16/12
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On Mar 16, 9:06 pm, "sweller" <swel...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Right, the Armstrong will shortly be up for sale but it's going to get
> a bit of a tidy up (as well as a replacement cylinder head) first.
>
> However, there's not a great deal of agreement on what the colour codes
> are for NATO green - does anyone know?
>
> The 1990's era MT350 (I have a 1985 MT500) is apparently is RAL 6020 or
> Field Green 34094:http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/3B482C/#British_Standard_BS381C
Was what my Armstrong was/appeared to be ...
Paul.
> Right, the Armstrong will shortly be up for sale but it's going to get
> a bit of a tidy up (as well as a replacement cylinder head) first.
>
> However, there's not a great deal of agreement on what the colour codes
> are for NATO green - does anyone know?
>
> The 1990's era MT350 (I have a 1985 MT500) is apparently is RAL 6020 or
> Field Green 34094:http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/3B482C/#British_Standard_BS381C
>
> These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow over
> the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier frames
> - which are currently various shades of the standard military drab.
>
> See here for its general colour:http://www.sweller.co.uk/armstrongsnow/#4
>
> I reckon RAL6014:http://www.felgendienst.ch/docs/RAL-Farbtabelle.pdf
>
> What shade say you?
Deep bronze green, just like the (old) NATO Landrovers.
> These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow over
> the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier frames
> - which are currently various shades of the standard military drab.
>
> See here for its general colour:http://www.sweller.co.uk/armstrongsnow/#4
>
> I reckon RAL6014:http://www.felgendienst.ch/docs/RAL-Farbtabelle.pdf
>
> What shade say you?
Was what my Armstrong was/appeared to be ...
Paul.
c...@nospam.netunix.com
Mar 16, 2012, 6:06:19 PM3/16/12
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sweller <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow over
> the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier frames
> - which are currently various shades of the standard military drab.
FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
>
> These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow over
> the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier frames
> - which are currently various shades of the standard military drab.
But this is probaby not what you want.
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zymurgy
Mar 16, 2012, 6:09:50 PM3/16/12
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Green IRR 285)
Paul.
mark
Mar 16, 2012, 6:03:33 PM3/16/12
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In message <9shobd...@mid.individual.net>, sweller
<swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>
>
>What shade say you?
>
The nearest RAL code for Nato Green is 6003.
Might be handy:
http://www.e-paint.co.uk/BS381%20Colourchart.asp
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Mark Roberts
<swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>
>
>What shade say you?
>
The nearest RAL code for Nato Green is 6003.
Might be handy:
http://www.e-paint.co.uk/BS381%20Colourchart.asp
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Mark Roberts
Nige
Mar 16, 2012, 6:12:54 PM3/16/12
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> sweller <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow over
>> the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier frames
>> - which are currently various shades of the standard military drab.
>
> FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
> But this is probaby not what you want.
>
1941
>>
>> These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow over
>> the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier frames
>> - which are currently various shades of the standard military drab.
>
> FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
> But this is probaby not what you want.
>
Thomas
Mar 16, 2012, 10:31:05 PM3/16/12
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:06:53 -0700, sweller <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
> http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/3B482C/#British_Standard_BS381C
>
For someone who spent a fair bit of time in art school and after messing
with color charts, that's an interesting website. I went moseying around
and found this in the 'about' page:
"The content is not entirely usefull. It also includes annoying features,
absolutely useless shit (see an example in the margin), outdated material,
garbage and plain old stupidity. Features may be incomplete, inaccurate,
broken, insane, unstable and/or disfunctional... you get the picture."
wrote:
> http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/3B482C/#British_Standard_BS381C
>
For someone who spent a fair bit of time in art school and after messing
with color charts, that's an interesting website. I went moseying around
and found this in the 'about' page:
"The content is not entirely usefull. It also includes annoying features,
absolutely useless shit (see an example in the margin), outdated material,
garbage and plain old stupidity. Features may be incomplete, inaccurate,
broken, insane, unstable and/or disfunctional... you get the picture."
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steve robinson
Mar 17, 2012, 4:55:20 AM3/17/12
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sweller wrote:
> c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
> > FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
> > But this is probaby not what you want.
>
> Yes, you're quite right that's not what I want.
>
> What I want is for you to use your powers of observation and
> judgement then give a considered reply as to what colour paint
> matches the closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British
> Army of the Rhine Armstrong MT500.
Thats unlikely to be a ral colour, its probably got a BS number
though and any decent paint suppliers should be able to reproduce it
subject to there being no restriction on supply (i.E like the
government owning the rights to that particular shade a little like
the AA and the yellow they use )
> c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
> > FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
> > But this is probaby not what you want.
>
>
> What I want is for you to use your powers of observation and
> judgement then give a considered reply as to what colour paint
> matches the closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British
> Army of the Rhine Armstrong MT500.
Thats unlikely to be a ral colour, its probably got a BS number
though and any decent paint suppliers should be able to reproduce it
subject to there being no restriction on supply (i.E like the
government owning the rights to that particular shade a little like
the AA and the yellow they use )
Buzby
Mar 17, 2012, 6:15:52 AM3/17/12
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I like that.
--
Buzby
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot"
zymurgy
Mar 17, 2012, 7:37:33 AM3/17/12
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On Mar 17, 7:54 am, "sweller" <swel...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Nope, but it was the colour of Mark's/Mine's tank, if you ever saw
his.
Yours looks like the matt IRR green, as per my other post.
Paul.
> zymurgy wrote:
> > > What shade say you?
>
> > Deep bronze green, just like the (old) NATO Landrovers.
>
> Is that the same shade my Armstrong's painted now?
> > > What shade say you?
>
> > Deep bronze green, just like the (old) NATO Landrovers.
>
Nope, but it was the colour of Mark's/Mine's tank, if you ever saw
his.
Yours looks like the matt IRR green, as per my other post.
Paul.
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stephen...@gonemail.com
Mar 17, 2012, 11:15:34 AM3/17/12
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sweller <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
> > > > What shade say you?
> > >
> > > RAL4010.
> >
> > No, you are.
>
> "push me, shove you"
"oh yeah, says who?"
> Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
> > > > What shade say you?
> > >
> > > RAL4010.
> >
>
> "push me, shove you"
"oh yeah, says who?"
Thomas
Mar 17, 2012, 12:53:28 PM3/17/12
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:53:00 -0700, sweller <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
> c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
>> FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
>> But this is probaby not what you want.
>
1. Paint changes color as it weathers. Choosing a color that matches the
current old paint (by number) means as soon as it dries, the color won't
match. Even if you take a sample to a paint shop and have them computer
match it, there will be a slight variation.
2. Every person sees color differently.
3. Color changes as it goes through the different processes of camera,
computer, monitor, etc.
wrote:
> c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
>> FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
>> But this is probaby not what you want.
>
> Yes, you're quite right that's not what I want.
>
> What I want is for you to use your powers of observation and judgement
> then give a considered reply as to what colour paint matches the
> closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British Army of the Rhine
> Armstrong MT500.
Can't happen, for several reasons.
>
> What I want is for you to use your powers of observation and judgement
> then give a considered reply as to what colour paint matches the
> closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British Army of the Rhine
> Armstrong MT500.
1. Paint changes color as it weathers. Choosing a color that matches the
current old paint (by number) means as soon as it dries, the color won't
match. Even if you take a sample to a paint shop and have them computer
match it, there will be a slight variation.
2. Every person sees color differently.
3. Color changes as it goes through the different processes of camera,
computer, monitor, etc.
mark
Mar 17, 2012, 2:02:11 PM3/17/12
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In message <op.wbbqj...@tom-pc.san.rr.com>, Thomas
<keen...@gmail.com> writes
I've seen his bike. Except for the tank (mt350 item) on mine; (was
Zymurgys) it's the same colour.
I have previous with ex-military landrovers (as you have seen; Thomas :)
) which in the eighties were nato green unless camouflage.
My MT500 was Nato Green in my opinion.
Not Olive Drab. Definitely not Bronze Green.
Therefore Swellers MT is Nato Green.
Nato Green is a BS colour.
Best RAL equivalent as seen with my own eyes in daylight on other
repainted Landrovers is as stated above.
You're right about the fading though....
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Mark Roberts
<keen...@gmail.com> writes
Zymurgys) it's the same colour.
I have previous with ex-military landrovers (as you have seen; Thomas :)
) which in the eighties were nato green unless camouflage.
My MT500 was Nato Green in my opinion.
Not Olive Drab. Definitely not Bronze Green.
Therefore Swellers MT is Nato Green.
Nato Green is a BS colour.
Best RAL equivalent as seen with my own eyes in daylight on other
repainted Landrovers is as stated above.
You're right about the fading though....
--
Mark Roberts
gri...@gmail.com
Mar 17, 2012, 5:23:38 PM3/17/12
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On 17 Mar 2012 07:53:00 GMT, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
>as to what colour paint matches the
>closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British Army of the Rhine
>Armstrong MT500.
Hay colour what kids the Russkies into thinking h'its hay bit of tree.
Sah!
wrote:
>as to what colour paint matches the
>closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British Army of the Rhine
>Armstrong MT500.
Sah!
Dan L
Mar 17, 2012, 9:53:48 PM3/17/12
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"sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
>> FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
>> But this is probaby not what you want.
>
> Yes, you're quite right that's not what I want.
>
> What I want is for you to use your powers of observation and judgement
> then give a considered reply as to what colour paint matches the
> c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
>> FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
>> But this is probaby not what you want.
>
> Yes, you're quite right that's not what I want.
>
> What I want is for you to use your powers of observation and judgement
> closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British Army of the Rhine
> Armstrong MT500.
I used to sell paint to MOD bases, but for buildings, not vehicles. The
> Armstrong MT500.
colour chart we used was BS4800, but I can't recall what the code for olive
drab was. Your local decorators merchant might be able to assist, and
knock up a QD Enamel to the requisite shade.
--
Dan L on the move
Mike Ricketts
Mar 18, 2012, 6:14:26 AM3/18/12
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On Mar 18, 2:53 am, Dan L <n...@none.none> wrote:
DEF STAN 80-41 (MATT) IRR paint, air drying, service vehicles etc,
infra-red reflecting (IRR) properties.
You might be able to get it from an ex-military equipment supplier
such as Anchor Supplies at Nottingham. If you just want an
approximate match, a google blast on the DEF STAN (Defence Standard)
number might get a xref to a BS number.
Mike
> "sweller" <swel...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
> >> FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
> >> But this is probaby not what you want.
>
> > Yes, you're quite right that's not what I want.
>
> > What I want is for you to use your powers of observation and judgement
> > then give a considered reply as to what colour paint matches the
> > closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British Army of the Rhine
> > Armstrong MT500.
>
I was in Transport (RAF) and this is the IRR Matt paint that we used:
> > c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
> >> FWIW the correct name for "standard military drab" is Olive Drab.
> >> But this is probaby not what you want.
>
> > Yes, you're quite right that's not what I want.
>
> > What I want is for you to use your powers of observation and judgement
> > then give a considered reply as to what colour paint matches the
> > closest to the existing colour of my 1985 ex British Army of the Rhine
> > Armstrong MT500.
>
DEF STAN 80-41 (MATT) IRR paint, air drying, service vehicles etc,
infra-red reflecting (IRR) properties.
You might be able to get it from an ex-military equipment supplier
such as Anchor Supplies at Nottingham. If you just want an
approximate match, a google blast on the DEF STAN (Defence Standard)
number might get a xref to a BS number.
Mike
Scraggy
Mar 18, 2012, 12:24:03 PM3/18/12
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On 16 Mar 2012 21:06:53 GMT, "sweller" <swe...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
http://www.militaryvehiclepaint.co.uk/index.php
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wrote:
>
>Right, the Armstrong will shortly be up for sale but it's going to get
>a bit of a tidy up (as well as a replacement cylinder head) first.
>
>However, there's not a great deal of agreement on what the colour codes
>are for NATO green - does anyone know?
>
>The 1990's era MT350 (I have a 1985 MT500) is apparently is RAL 6020 or
>Field Green 34094:
>http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/3B482C/#British_Standard_BS381C
>
>
>Right, the Armstrong will shortly be up for sale but it's going to get
>a bit of a tidy up (as well as a replacement cylinder head) first.
>
>However, there's not a great deal of agreement on what the colour codes
>are for NATO green - does anyone know?
>
>The 1990's era MT350 (I have a 1985 MT500) is apparently is RAL 6020 or
>Field Green 34094:
>http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/3B482C/#British_Standard_BS381C
>
>These things came in many different shades and I only want to blow over
>the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier frames
>- which are currently various shades of the standard military drab.
>
>the tank, sidepanels, nose, front mudguard, toolbox and pannier frames
>- which are currently various shades of the standard military drab.
>
>See here for its general colour:
>http://www.sweller.co.uk/armstrongsnow/#4
>
>I reckon RAL6014: http://www.felgendienst.ch/docs/RAL-Farbtabelle.pdf
>
>What shade say you?
I presume you've seen;
>http://www.sweller.co.uk/armstrongsnow/#4
>
>I reckon RAL6014: http://www.felgendienst.ch/docs/RAL-Farbtabelle.pdf
>
>What shade say you?
http://www.militaryvehiclepaint.co.uk/index.php
&
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320668262730&var=510027682019#ht_734wt_905
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