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TOG@Toil

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Feb 22, 2010, 7:03:52 AM2/22/10
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Ordered a used bit more than two weeks ago for my GN250, from an
outfit oop North, that responded to a Partfinder query. Supposed to
have been shipped immediately, but by the time we went off skiing (12
Feb) it hadn't arrived.

And when we got back last night, it wasn't on the mat either. Nor was
there a "We tried to deliver" note from any carrier.

So I called them this morning. "Oh, we've been so busy, we haven't
taken it off the bike yet...."

Bleedin' Nora. Supposedly I'll have it tomorrow.

Blacks Bike Shop, somewhere in Lancashire. Anyone know the outfit?

Nige

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Feb 22, 2010, 7:46:29 AM2/22/10
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Oh fuck me yes, they are SHIT, thieving cunts too.

AVOID.

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Yamaha R1
Range Rover Vogue

sweller

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Feb 22, 2010, 7:48:43 AM2/22/10
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TOG@Toil wrote:

> Blacks Bike Shop, somewhere in Lancashire. Anyone know the outfit?

Yes, sent the wrong type of handlebar switchgear for the GT, it was and
early type without the clutch cut-out switch.

Swapped it no bother and were very helpful but not exactly quick.

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Steve

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Feb 22, 2010, 8:02:34 AM2/22/10
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TOG@Toil wrote:
> So I called them this morning. "Oh, we've been so busy, we haven't
> taken it off the bike yet...."
In other words , "its seized solid and we haven't figured how to get
it off"....

Vass

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Feb 22, 2010, 8:28:23 AM2/22/10
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"TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c3675b6f-d6d9-451c...@a18g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

on the bright side, its not lost.... yet.
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doetnietcomputeren

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On 2010-02-22 13:03:52 +0100, "TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> said:

> Blacks Bike Shop, somewhere in Lancashire. Anyone know the outfit?

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Ha.


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Veggie Dave

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Feb 22, 2010, 9:36:39 AM2/22/10
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"TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote the following literary
masterpiece:

>Blacks Bike Shop, somewhere in Lancashire. Anyone know the outfit?

Everyone up north knows them, and mostly not for good reasons...

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that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine

Fr Jack

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Feb 22, 2010, 10:38:47 AM2/22/10
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"TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> spewed forth:


>Blacks Bike Shop, somewhere in Lancashire. Anyone know the outfit?

Oh dear...
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I hear you talking but the words are kinda strange


YTC#1

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Feb 22, 2010, 11:17:51 AM2/22/10
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Search the NG, been complaints before.
Personally, I find them easier to dela with when on the premises :-)

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DR

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Feb 22, 2010, 12:46:34 PM2/22/10
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TOG@Toil posted:

From my own experience with them I offer only one word of advice.

AVOID.


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Andy Bonwick

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Andy Bonwick

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Feb 22, 2010, 2:00:55 PM2/22/10
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 04:03:52 -0800 (PST), "TOG@Toil"
<totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Ormskirk. Have a look and you'll notice it isn't far from Liverpool.

They haven't nicked the part yet.

The Older Gentleman

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Feb 22, 2010, 2:11:53 PM2/22/10
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DR <motor...@hotmail.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

Thanks all.

Oh well, we'll see. If it doesn't arrive or turns out to be a load of
crap, I'll politely ask for a CC refund.

If they haver *one little bit* I'll tell them that I'm querying the
payment with the CC company. The amount involved is below the �100
Consumer Credit Act amount for joint and several liability *but* when a
payment is contested, the CC companies back-debit the seller �35-odd for
'administration costs'.

I've discovered in the past that pointing this out to dodgy sellers
often results in surprisingly sudden co-operation.


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Lozzo

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Feb 22, 2010, 4:25:59 PM2/22/10
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TOG@Toil wrote:

> Ordered a used bit more than two weeks ago for my GN250, from an
> outfit oop North, that responded to a Partfinder query. Supposed to
> have been shipped immediately, but by the time we went off skiing (12
> Feb) it hadn't arrived.

<snip>


> Blacks Bike Shop, somewhere in Lancashire. Anyone know the outfit?

I ordered a SV fairing main stay from them after I threw my last SV
under a car, it was described as straight and undamaged. I saw some
pink writing on the ebay photo but couldn't read it and thought it
would be where they'd marked it as being from an SV.

The bracket arrives, and thats when I discovered that the pink writing
said..."BENT".

Naturally it was returned and I bought one from elsewhere. I have heard
similar stories so wouldn't bother using them again.

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Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka,
TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details

Nige

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Feb 24, 2010, 1:10:22 PM2/24/10
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Lozzo wrote:
> TOG@Toil wrote:
>
>> Ordered a used bit more than two weeks ago for my GN250, from an
>> outfit oop North, that responded to a Partfinder query. Supposed to
>> have been shipped immediately, but by the time we went off skiing (12
>> Feb) it hadn't arrived.
> <snip>
>> Blacks Bike Shop, somewhere in Lancashire. Anyone know the outfit?
>
> I ordered a SV fairing main stay from them after I threw my last SV
> under a car, it was described as straight and undamaged. I saw some
> pink writing on the ebay photo but couldn't read it and thought it
> would be where they'd marked it as being from an SV.
>
> The bracket arrives, and thats when I discovered that the pink writing
> said..."BENT".
>
> Naturally it was returned and I bought one from elsewhere. I have heard
> similar stories so wouldn't bother using them again.

Marchesini wheels for my 916 that where mint, like fuck they where the lying
cheating fuckrags.

The Older Gentleman

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Feb 24, 2010, 2:35:40 PM2/24/10
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TOG@Toil <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Bleedin' Nora. Supposedly I'll have it tomorrow.

No fucking sign after two days. Ma's funeral tomorrow, so on Friday I
get shouty with them and inform the CC co.

YTC#1

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Feb 24, 2010, 4:59:41 PM2/24/10
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:35:40 +0000, The Older Gentleman wrote:

> TOG@Toil <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Bleedin' Nora. Supposedly I'll have it tomorrow.
>
> No fucking sign after two days. Ma's funeral tomorrow, so on Friday I get
> shouty with them and inform the CC co.

Its all that snow down south, no post can get through.

Switters

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Feb 25, 2010, 7:11:55 AM2/25/10
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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:59:41 GMT, YTC#1 wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:35:40 +0000, The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
>> TOG@Toil <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Bleedin' Nora. Supposedly I'll have it tomorrow.
>>
>> No fucking sign after two days. Ma's funeral tomorrow, so on Friday I
>> get shouty with them and inform the CC co.
>
> Its all that snow down south, no post can get through.

What snow? It's +8C down in Devon, well toasty.

The Older Gentleman

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Feb 25, 2010, 12:58:39 PM2/25/10
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YTC#1 <bdp-s...@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:35:40 +0000, The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> > TOG@Toil <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Bleedin' Nora. Supposedly I'll have it tomorrow.
> >
> > No fucking sign after two days. Ma's funeral tomorrow, so on Friday I get
> > shouty with them and inform the CC co.
>
> Its all that snow down south, no post can get through.

No sign of it still. Rang them this afternoon. Long period on hold,
after I'd told them I wanted a refund on the CC.

"We can either send it today or we can do the refund."

"So you still haven't actually sent it? I'll have the refund."

Allegedly this should be on my statement in three working days. I bet it
isn't.

What a bunch of arseholes.

YTC#1

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Feb 25, 2010, 1:20:42 PM2/25/10
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On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:58:39 +0000, The Older Gentleman wrote:

> YTC#1 <bdp-s...@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:35:40 +0000, The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>
>> > TOG@Toil <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bleedin' Nora. Supposedly I'll have it tomorrow.
>> >
>> > No fucking sign after two days. Ma's funeral tomorrow, so on Friday I
>> > get shouty with them and inform the CC co.
>>
>> Its all that snow down south, no post can get through.
>
> No sign of it still. Rang them this afternoon. Long period on hold, after
> I'd told them I wanted a refund on the CC.
>
> "We can either send it today or we can do the refund."
>
> "So you still haven't actually sent it? I'll have the refund."
>
> Allegedly this should be on my statement in three working days. I bet it
> isn't.
>
> What a bunch of arseholes.

:-)

doetnietcomputeren

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Feb 25, 2010, 1:34:32 PM2/25/10
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On 2010-02-25 18:58:39 +0100, totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) said:
>>>> Bleedin' Nora. Supposedly I'll have it tomorrow.
>>>
>>> No fucking sign after two days. Ma's funeral tomorrow, so on Friday I get
>>> shouty with them and inform the CC co.
>>
>> Its all that snow down south, no post can get through.
>
> No sign of it still. Rang them this afternoon. Long period on hold,
> after I'd told them I wanted a refund on the CC.
>
> "We can either send it today or we can do the refund."
>
> "So you still haven't actually sent it? I'll have the refund."
>
> Allegedly this should be on my statement in three working days. I bet it
> isn't.

Just call the CC company and have them do a chargeback. That way you
know you'll get your money and they'll send frown and administration
charges to the...

> What a bunch of arseholes.

If only you'd have done some research up front eh?

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The Older Gentleman

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Feb 25, 2010, 1:44:41 PM2/25/10
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doetnietcomputeren <doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If only you'd have done some research up front eh?

Troo.

Trouble is, I've used Pathfinder before and they're usually great.

So when someone rings up in answer to a (paid-for) Partfinder search, I
tend to trust them.

TOG@Toil

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<Bad form post>

And the latest. Despite two promises, no credit card refund has been
made. Partfinder has been in touch with them too, and they promised P/
F they'd make the refund. Hah.

MasterCard has placed the payment in dispute.

And this is their eBay negative feedback, just for the last *six
months*

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=blacksbikeshop&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=180

Words fail me.

doetnietcomputeren

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Mar 3, 2010, 4:16:28 AM3/3/10
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Words
>
> fail me.

Me too - you were warned.

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TOG@Toil

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On 3 Mar, 09:16, doetnietcomputeren <doesnotcomp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2010-03-03 10:11:08 +0100, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> said:
>
> > <Bad form post>
>
> > And the latest. Despite two promises, no credit card refund has been
> > made. Partfinder has been in touch with them too, and they promised P/
> > F they'd make the refund. Hah.
>
> > MasterCard has placed the payment in dispute.
>
> > And this is their eBay negative feedback, just for the last *six
> > months*
>
> >http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=blac...

>
> Words
>
>
>
> > fail me.
>
> Me too - you were warned.
>
After the event, but yes, I should have consulted the FOAK first. Like
I said, though, PartFinder's been good in the past. No reason to doubt
they'd have been good this time.

doetnietcomputeren

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On 2010-03-03 10:21:54 +0100, "TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> said:
>>
>> Me too - you were warned.
>>
> After the event, but yes, I should have consulted the FOAK first.

But even after you were watned, you still continued to ask and chase
for a refund that was never going to happen.

> Like
> I said, though, PartFinder's been good in the past. No reason to doubt
> they'd have been good this time.

Only as good as the weakest link.

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TOG@Toil

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On 3 Mar, 09:37, doetnietcomputeren <doesnotcomp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2010-03-03 10:21:54 +0100, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> said:
>
>
>
> >> Me too - you were warned.
>
> > After the event, but yes, I should have consulted the FOAK first.
>
> But even after you were watned, you still continued to ask and chase
> for a refund that was never going to happen.

<Puzzled> Erm, what else is one expected to do? No goods, so of course
you ask for a refund. Actually, they offered it.

So now I've escalated it to a CC dispute, which means a rather better
chance of success for me, and considerable hassle and extra expense
for them, because the CC company charges the vendor for this.


> > Like
> > I said, though, PartFinder's been good in the past. No reason to doubt
> > they'd have been good this time.
>
> Only as good as the weakest link.
>

That's true enough.

doetnietcomputeren

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On 2010-03-03 10:56:02 +0100, "TOG@Toil" <totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> said:

>>>> Me too - you were warned.
>>
>>> After the event, but yes, I should have consulted the FOAK first.
>>
>> But even after you were watned, you still continued to ask and chase
>> for a refund that was never going to happen.
>
> <Puzzled> Erm, what else is one expected to do? No goods, so of course
> you ask for a refund. Actually, they offered it.

Of course they did. How did that work out for you?

> So now I've escalated it to a CC dispute, which means a rather better
> chance of success for me, and considerable hassle and extra expense
> for them, because the CC company charges the vendor for this.

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/34f8b1b64e89da48

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TOG@Toil

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On 3 Mar, 10:05, doetnietcomputeren <doesnotcomp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2010-03-03 10:56:02 +0100, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> said:
>
> >>>> Me too - you were warned.
>
> >>> After the event, but yes, I should have consulted the FOAK first.
>
> >> But even after you were watned, you still continued to ask and chase
> >> for a refund that was never going to happen.
>
> > <Puzzled> Erm, what else is one expected to do? No goods, so of course
> > you ask for a refund. Actually, they offered it.
>
> Of course they did. How did that work out for you?

Nothing


>
> > So now I've escalated it to a CC dispute, which means a rather better
> > chance of success for me, and considerable hassle and extra expense
> > for them, because the CC company charges the vendor for this.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/34f8b1b64e89da48
>

Um, if you go back through the thread, you'll see that I'd actually
raised this as a course of action *before* your posting. But I do like
to give people the chance to deliver on their promises.

Anyway, Mastercard has flagged it as in dispute, Blacks has instantly
come back and said it takes three working days (which both I and
MasterCard agree is bollocks, as CC payments and credits are recorded
instantly), I've told Blacks that we are now *four* days after their
refund offer date anyway and that I'm not prepared to piss around. The
dispute stands. And I've pointed out that it's going to cost them, but
I'll lift the dispute if the refund is made today or tomorrow.

What an utter bunch of arseholes.

TOG@Toil

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Mar 3, 2010, 6:56:22 AM3/3/10
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And the latest. Partfinder, unasked, has refunded me the £3.76 charge
for their service, which puts them to the top of my Good Guys list. I
wonder if they're putting any pressure on Blacks. No refund from
Blacks yet.

YTC#1

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Mar 3, 2010, 7:19:14 AM3/3/10
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What ?

You did not read the negs before buying ? :-)

Oh, and they have been discussed here in the recent past as well.

TOG@Toil

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On 3 Mar, 12:19, YTC#1 <bdp-spam...@ytc1.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:21:54 -0800, TOG@Toil wrote:
> > On 3 Mar, 09:16, doetnietcomputeren <doesnotcomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2010-03-03 10:11:08 +0100, "TOG@Toil"
> >> <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> said:
>
> >> > <Bad form post>
>
> >> > And the latest. Despite two promises, no credit card refund has been
> >> > made. Partfinder has been in touch with them too, and they promised P/
> >> > F they'd make the refund. Hah.
>
> >> > MasterCard has placed the payment in dispute.
>
> >> > And this is their eBay negative feedback, just for the last *six
> >> > months*
>
> >> >http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=blac...
>
> >> Words
>
> >> > fail me.
>
> >> Me too - you were warned.
>
> > After the event, but yes, I should have consulted the FOAK first. Like I
> > said, though, PartFinder's been good in the past. No reason to doubt
> > they'd have been good this time.
>
> What ?
>
> You did not read the negs before buying ? :-)

I didn't buy it on eBay, YTC. :-)


>
> Oh, and they have been discussed here in the recent past as well.
>

Troo. That I missed.

Switters

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Mar 3, 2010, 7:38:01 AM3/3/10
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:05:46 GMT, doetnietcomputeren wrote:

>> So now I've escalated it to a CC dispute, which means a rather better
>> chance of success for me, and considerable hassle and extra expense
>> for them, because the CC company charges the vendor for this.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/34f8b1b64e89da48

Feeling smug, perchance? :)

doetnietcomputeren

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Not at all.


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TOG@Toil

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Mar 3, 2010, 8:53:29 AM3/3/10
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<Baffled>

At repeating what I'd posted earlier in the thread? I doubt it....

<Looks down>

No, it would seem not :-)

Champ

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On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:11:25 +0100, doetnietcomputeren
<doesnot...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2010-03-03 13:38:01 +0100, Switters <m...@privacy.net> said:
>
>> On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:05:46 GMT, doetnietcomputeren wrote:
>>
>>>> So now I've escalated it to a CC dispute, which means a rather better
>>>> chance of success for me, and considerable hassle and extra expense
>>>> for them, because the CC company charges the vendor for this.
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/msg/34f8b1b64e89da48

>> Feeling smug, perchance? :)

>Not at all.

Nice straight bat you've got there :-)
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Andy Bonwick

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That'll teach you to take the piss when I broke down in Germany.

Andy Bonwick

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On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 02:58:19 -0800 (PST), "TOG@Toil"
<totallyde...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

snip>

>What an utter bunch of thieving scousers.

You should have paid more attention to where their shop is.

TOG@Toil

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On 22 Feb, 12:03, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

<snip>

And finally. A credit made to my CC.

YTC#1

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that reminds me .....

<checks acc>
yep, cooker CC transaction refunded
</ca>

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