Motobatt vs Yuasa

[ogden]

Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
on a Motobatt.

--
ogden

990SMT - bouncy orange tractor
GSXR1000 - vintage sports-tourer

[Simon Wilson]

On 06/02/2013 18:06, ogden wrote:
>
> Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> on a Motobatt.
>

I've got a couple of little-used bikes with AGM Motobatts on, the oldest
is probably only 18 months or so though. Ok so far.

--
/Simon

[ogden]

The original's just had a couple off hours on a fast charge and seems
happy now - before it was distinctly asthmatic, now it fires up at the
faintest hint of the button. I'll keep an eye on it though, see if it
holds charge properly.

Fuck knows what was going on with the immobiliser earlier. I wish it'd
fail open while running though - throwing a wobbler and cutting the
engine at 20mph is not my idea of good design.

[c...@nospam.netunix.com]

ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> on a Motobatt.

Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.

--
05 Yamaha YP400 Majesty
75 Suzuki GT750 Kettle
81 Suzuki GT200 X5
++May contain nuts.++

[ogden]

c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> >
> > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> > to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> > on a Motobatt.
>
> Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
> If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
> otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.

Is that your experience of Motobatt products then?

[Wicked Uncle Nigel]

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
<og...@pre.org> typed

>c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>>
>> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
>> > to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
>> > on a Motobatt.
>>
>> Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
>> If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
>> otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.
>
>Is that your experience of Motobatt products then?

Don't knock it, he's provided a definitive answer to your question.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

Contains moderate bullshit and simulated opinions.

[wessie]

ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote in news:MPG.2b7cac0fb4c6e950989ee2
@news.eternal-september.org:

>
> Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> on a Motobatt.
>

Motobatt seem to have a decent reputation with my friends on the internet.
Varta is a similar price for a YTZ14S [1] if you want an established brand.
Westco don't seem to do an equivalent sadly.

[1] came up on a few searches as the OE fitment

[ogden]

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
> <og...@pre.org> typed
> >c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> >>
> >> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> >> > to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> >> > on a Motobatt.
> >>
> >> Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
> >> If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
> >> otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.
> >
> >Is that your experience of Motobatt products then?
>
> Don't knock it, he's provided a definitive answer to your question.

He's hammered out some words on a keyboard, certainly. Calling it a
definitive answer may a bit much.

[Nige]

"ogden" <og...@pre.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.2b7cac0fb...@news.eternal-september.org...

>
> Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> on a Motobatt.

We use a *lot* of batteries at work, we used to use Yuasa, but they went
down in quality about five years ago, yet still cost the same or more in
some cases. The batteries we use on some applications are very fucking
expensive, for central battery units etc.

Bike batteries wise, i just buy a mid range one when i need one & certainly
wouldnt buy a yuasa ever again.

[Nige]

<c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
news:keua82$kil$1...@news.albasani.net...

> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>>
>> Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
>> to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
>> on a Motobatt.
>
> Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
> If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
> otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.
>

Sorry fella, but you are wrong, you'll most likely replace them both like
for like nowadays.

[Krusty]

Nige wrote:

>
>
> "ogden" <og...@pre.org> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2b7cac0fb...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm
> > trying to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa
> > or half that on a Motobatt.
>

> We use a lot of batteries at work, we used to use Yuasa, but they

> went down in quality about five years ago, yet still cost the same or
> more in some cases. The batteries we use on some applications are
> very fucking expensive, for central battery units etc.
>
> Bike batteries wise, i just buy a mid range one when i need one &
> certainly wouldnt buy a yuasa ever again.

I'm glad it's not just me. The last two Yuasas I've had didn't even
last two years.

--
Krusty

Raptor 1000 MV 750 Senna Fantic Hiro 250

[Krusty]

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
> <og...@pre.org> typed
> > c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> > >
> >>ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> > > >
> >>> Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm
> trying >>> to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM
> Yuasa or half that >>> on a Motobatt.
> > >
> > > Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year
> > > intervals ? If you are selling the bike within a few months go
> > > for the Motobatt, otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a
> > > load of hassle.
> >
> > Is that your experience of Motobatt products then?
>
> Don't knock it, he's provided a definitive answer to your question.

Quite. It's particularly ironic given that ogden clearly refers to the
"OEM Yuasa" that's died - on a bike that's what, 18 months old?

[c...@nospam.netunix.com]

ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>
> The original's just had a couple off hours on a fast charge and seems
> happy now - before it was distinctly asthmatic, now it fires up at the
> faintest hint of the button. I'll keep an eye on it though, see if it
> holds charge properly.
>
> Fuck knows what was going on with the immobiliser earlier. I wish it'd
> fail open while running though - throwing a wobbler and cutting the
> engine at 20mph is not my idea of good design.

Hmmm - sounds like you may have ran out of leccy due to a charging problem.
Check the charging circuit - the voltage across the battery should
recover immediately after starting and rise nicely if you rev it
a bit. Expect something over 13v at 3000rpm-ish if the battery is
flat-ish and 14v if fully charged.

[c...@nospam.netunix.com]

ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> >
> > ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> > > to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> > > on a Motobatt.
> >
> > Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
> > If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
> > otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.
>
> Is that your experience of Motobatt products then?

Its many years of experience with many varieties of cheap batteries.
Nowadays I prefer Varta to Yuasa, Yuasa quality seems to have slipped
a bit. My local bike shop sells Rob Hunter batteries which are
cheap but so far seem to be better than most.

[ogden]

c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> >
> > The original's just had a couple off hours on a fast charge and seems
> > happy now - before it was distinctly asthmatic, now it fires up at the
> > faintest hint of the button. I'll keep an eye on it though, see if it
> > holds charge properly.
> >
> > Fuck knows what was going on with the immobiliser earlier. I wish it'd
> > fail open while running though - throwing a wobbler and cutting the
> > engine at 20mph is not my idea of good design.
>
> Hmmm - sounds like you may have ran out of leccy due to a charging problem.

> Check the charging circuit.

I suspect the charging circuit is fine, but the juice being put out by
the alternator while it spends most of its life at tickover while I wait
for lights to turn green is less than the juice required by a headlight
and heated grips, forcing the battery to gradually drain while it makes
up the difference.

[ogden]

Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
> <og...@pre.org> typed
> >c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> >>
> >> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> >> > to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> >> > on a Motobatt.
> >>
> >> Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
> >> If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
> >> otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.
> >
> >Is that your experience of Motobatt products then?
>
> Don't knock it, he's provided a definitive answer to your question.

Doh. I forgot the meme. You are, of course, quite correct.

[ogden]

12 months and 12 days since it rolled out of the showroom.

[Wicked Uncle Nigel]

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
<og...@pre.org> typed
>Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>>
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
>> <og...@pre.org> typed
>> >c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
>> >> > to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
>> >> > on a Motobatt.
>> >>
>> >> Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
>> >> If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
>> >> otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.
>> >
>> >Is that your experience of Motobatt products then?
>>
>> Don't knock it, he's provided a definitive answer to your question.
>
>Doh. I forgot the meme. You are, of course, quite correct.

You're welcome.

[Greybeard]

In article <keua82$kil$1...@news.albasani.net>, c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com
says...

>
> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
> >
> > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> > to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> > on a Motobatt.
>
> Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
> If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
> otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.

Not my personal experience.
There is a Mottbatt AGM on the Harley I sold last year. The guy doesn't
use it much, but it has staretd every time he has wanted it too. The
battery is just over 2 years and since he bought the bike off me in May
last year has never been "optimised". It was always attached to a CTEK
while I had it, he doesn't bother.
I'd buy another without a shaddow os a squibbly.

--
Greybeard

2010 ElectraGlide Ultra,

[Eddie]

Krusty wrote:
>
> I'm glad it's not just me. The last two Yuasas I've had didn't even
> last two years.

Oh, good. I was worried that it was just my bikes that seemed to eat
batteries quicker than they should.

--
Eddie ed...@deguello.org

[Ian Field]

<c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
news:keuk0e$81t$2...@news.albasani.net...

> ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>> c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>> >
>> > ogden <og...@pre.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm
>> > > trying
>> > > to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half
>> > > that
>> > > on a Motobatt.
>> >
>> > Do you want to buy one Yuasa or three Motobatts at two year intervals ?
>> > If you are selling the bike within a few months go for the Motobatt,
>> > otherwise go for the Yuasa and save yourself a load of hassle.
>>
>> Is that your experience of Motobatt products then?
>
> Its many years of experience with many varieties of cheap batteries.
> Nowadays I prefer Varta to Yuasa, Yuasa quality seems to have slipped
> a bit. My local bike shop sells Rob Hunter batteries which are
> cheap but so far seem to be better than most.

I always pay the extra for Varta (compared to the crap available from
dealers in my neck of the woods).

[Ian Field]

"Eddie" <ed...@deguello.org> wrote in message
news:anhftr...@mid.individual.net...

> Krusty wrote:
>>
>> I'm glad it's not just me. The last two Yuasas I've had didn't even
>> last two years.
>
> Oh, good. I was worried that it was just my bikes that seemed to eat
> batteries quicker than they should.

Just go to the local tip and look in the battery bin for what make there's
most of.

[wessie]

"Ian Field" <gangprob...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
news:ybWQs.4068$DQ4...@fx27.fr7:

How does that give reliable results? Go to a bike dealer with a Japanese
franchise, and most of the scrap batteries you see will be Yuasa as they
were OE on the bikes they sell. Go to a BMW dealer and the scrap bin
will contain mainly Exide. Most of the scrap batteries will be 3 or more
years old and will have given good service for their expected life
cycle.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:02:19 +0000, Eddie <ed...@deguello.org> wrote:

>Krusty wrote:
>>
>> I'm glad it's not just me. The last two Yuasas I've had didn't even
>> last two years.
>
>Oh, good. I was worried that it was just my bikes that seemed to eat
>batteries quicker than they should.

Thassa Yuassa bassa.
They used to be the dog's danglies in comparison to the others and I
haven't had a Yuasa fail in less than five years, more commonly seven.

[Fraser Johnston]

On 7/02/13 2:06 AM, ogden wrote:
>
> Any thoughts? I might have killed the battery on the SMT, and I'm trying
> to decide whether to spend a hundred notes on the OEM Yuasa or half that
> on a Motobatt.
>

I put a Motobatt in the VFR and it started the bike after a one month
sit with no problems.

--

Fraser

[Mark Olson]

Why is that remarkable?