Art or design, which is it?
Lozzo
what do you think this is?
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
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ZX-9R
Bear
says...
> As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> what do you think this is?
>
> http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
*nice*
Wasn't there a 6 cylindered Benelli (CBX ripoff) that had similarly
sculptured pipes, but 6 of em?
Maybe I dreamt it.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Neil Young - "Keep On Rockin In The Free World"
Lozzo
> In article <MPG.1c000739b...@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
> says...
> > As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> > what do you think this is?
> >
> > http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
>
> *nice*
>
> Wasn't there a 6 cylindered Benelli (CBX ripoff) that had similarly
> sculptured pipes, but 6 of em?
>
> Maybe I dreamt it.
I seem to recall something as well, but can't find a pic anywhere. The
normal - if you can ever call a Benelli 6 that - 750 SEI and 900 SEI had
pretty average looking pipework from what I've seen.
Eiron
> Wasn't there a 6 cylindered Benelli (CBX ripoff) that had similarly
> sculptured pipes, but 6 of em?
>
> Maybe I dreamt it.
That would be the Benelli Sei, which predated the CBX
by a couple of years.
The little Benelli fours copied the Honda 400/4 engine.
--
Eiron.
Ben Blaney
>As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
>what do you think this is?
>
>http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
*class*
I've got one of them, in a shed in Surrey with a 1965 MGB that hasn't
turned a wheel in 5 years. I hope my bike doesn't have the same fate.
--
Ben Blaney
Sorby
news:MPG.1c000739b...@news.individual.net...
> As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> what do you think this is?
>
> http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
[pipes] Lovely.
I've just remembered I've got some photos on that site from yonks ago...
[pipe and slippers] http://www.bikepics.com/members/sorbitol/96vfr750/
--
Sorby
Lozzo
I always wanted a chrome bumpered MGB GT in BRG. Fuck only knows why, I
just like them.
Ben Blaney
Me too. If that one doesn't turn a wheel for another five years, I
might see the owner is open to an offer.
--
Ben Blaney
^..^ Lone Wolf
Wotcha.
> As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> what do you think this is?
>
> http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
Art - because from a design point of view it's far from perfect ;-)
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The Older Gentleman
> As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> what do you think this is?
>
> http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
Art.
One of the attractions of the 400 Four is that exhaust. One of the most
beautiful ever, ever, ever made IMHO.
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The Older Gentleman
> Bear wrote:
>
>
> > Wasn't there a 6 cylindered Benelli (CBX ripoff) that had similarly
> > sculptured pipes, but 6 of em?
> >
> > Maybe I dreamt it.
>
> That would be the Benelli Sei, which predated the CBX
> by a couple of years.
Four years, actually. Six-into-six pipes, yes. Some team of nutters
raced a brace of them at a 24-hour race (Le Mans or the Bol; I forget
which) with the most *incredible* six-into-one systems. I've got a pic
in an old copy of Bike somewhere.
>
> The little Benelli fours copied the Honda 400/4 engine.
Not really, no. The Benelli 500 four was pretty much a Honda rip-off,
but the 350cc fours, apart from being a transverse four, were... well,
just another four. A bit gutless, by all accounts.
Benelli was racing four-cylinder bikes while Honda was still faffing
with twins, I think.
mb
> Bear says...
8<
>>
>> Wasn't there a 6 cylindered Benelli (CBX ripoff) that had similarly
>> sculptured pipes, but 6 of em?
>>
>> Maybe I dreamt it.
>
> I seem to recall something as well, but can't find a pic anywhere. The
> normal - if you can ever call a Benelli 6 that - 750 SEI and 900 SEI had
> pretty average looking pipework from what I've seen.
I recall the 750 Sei having a 6 into 6 and the 900 Sei having a 6 into 2.
ICBW of course.
--
Mike
FJ1200 (Porky Torquey)
GTS1000 (Best brakes on the road)
Lozzo
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:18:52 +0000, Lozzo wrote:
>
> > Bear says...
> 8<
> >>
> >> Wasn't there a 6 cylindered Benelli (CBX ripoff) that had similarly
> >> sculptured pipes, but 6 of em?
> >>
> >> Maybe I dreamt it.
> >
> > I seem to recall something as well, but can't find a pic anywhere. The
> > normal - if you can ever call a Benelli 6 that - 750 SEI and 900 SEI had
> > pretty average looking pipework from what I've seen.
>
>
> I recall the 750 Sei having a 6 into 6 and the 900 Sei having a 6 into 2.
> ICBW of course.
Nice pics of a 750 SEI here, again the text is in furrin-speak.
http://www.bma-magazin.de/frame.html?
Rubriken/Archiv/Fahrberichte/Benelli/Sei750/sei750.html
The Older Gentleman
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:18:52 +0000, Lozzo wrote:
>
> > Bear says...
> 8<
> >>
> >> Wasn't there a 6 cylindered Benelli (CBX ripoff) that had similarly
> >> sculptured pipes, but 6 of em?
> >>
> >> Maybe I dreamt it.
> >
> > I seem to recall something as well, but can't find a pic anywhere. The
> > normal - if you can ever call a Benelli 6 that - 750 SEI and 900 SEI had
> > pretty average looking pipework from what I've seen.
>
>
> I recall the 750 Sei having a 6 into 6 and the 900 Sei having a 6 into 2.
> ICBW of course.
You're right.
mb
> mb says...
8<
>>
>> I recall the 750 Sei having a 6 into 6 and the 900 Sei having a 6 into 2.
>> ICBW of course.
>
> Nice pics of a 750 SEI here, again the text is in furrin-speak.
>
> http://www.bma-magazin.de/frame.html?
> Rubriken/Archiv/Fahrberichte/Benelli/Sei750/sei750.html
I found a page of photos with something strange...
http://www.mhoff.de/grafik/motorrad/kawa_05.jpg
Wot is it?
Mark Olson
Didn't know you were a fellow sufferer.
I had a 64 and a 65 MGB, I'd have another if I could find one that wasn't
trying desperately to emulate a graham cracker/slice of swiss cheese...
--
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Bear
says...
Have you driven one? The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
Lozzo
> In article <MPG.1c0015a6a...@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
> says...
> > Ben Blaney says...
> > > Lozzo wrote:
> > >
> > > >As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> > > >what do you think this is?
> > > >
> > > >http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
> > >
> > > *class*
> > >
> > > I've got one of them, in a shed in Surrey with a 1965 MGB that hasn't
> > > turned a wheel in 5 years. I hope my bike doesn't have the same fate.
> >
> > I always wanted a chrome bumpered MGB GT in BRG. Fuck only knows why, I
> > just like them.
>
> Have you driven one? The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
> GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
>
> ... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
I've driven loads, you seem to forget I worked in the classic car
trimming and motor accessories trade for donkey's years. Uninspiring is
the way I'd describe the performance, but I still like them.
Pip
> Lozzo says...
>> I always wanted a chrome bumpered MGB GT in BRG. Fuck only knows why, I
>> just like them.
>
>Have you driven one? The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
>GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
>
>... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
I really cannot appreciate the mindset that finds an MGB desirable.
Don't go, don't stop, don't go round corners.
Fucking awful things to work on, too - I still wake up in cold
sweats with trunnions on my mind. The V8 model is a little better in
that it sounds nice and goes a bit, but the otehr caveats still apply
and in fact are compounded by the bit of extra weight over the front
end and those fuckawful to clean alloy wheels that were fitted to
them.
The only MGs that appeal to me are the likes of the TF and its ilk or
perhaps a Midget with a snorty motor in it.
I'd take yer arm off if you offered me a GT6 or a TR6, mind - but one
of my favourite little sportscars was a Spitfire of all things that
one of my mates shoehorned a 2.5 lump into. That sounded well and
went acceptably, although the handling was a little exciting at times.
In order to give him some competition, I dropped an Alfa two litre
twincam motor and box into a Spitty - that was pretty good fun, too.
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platypus
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:04:28 +0000, Lozzo wrote:
>
>> mb says...
> 8<
>>>
>>> I recall the 750 Sei having a 6 into 6 and the 900 Sei having a 6
>>> into 2. ICBW of course.
>>
>> Nice pics of a 750 SEI here, again the text is in furrin-speak.
>>
>> http://www.bma-magazin.de/frame.html?
>> Rubriken/Archiv/Fahrberichte/Benelli/Sei750/sei750.html
>
>
> I found a page of photos with something strange...
> http://www.mhoff.de/grafik/motorrad/kawa_05.jpg
>
> Wot is it?
It's a motorcycle. Google for Allen Millyard.
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platypus
into the blue again
Bear
says...
Indeed, a poseur's toy only. Fuck all use as a sportscar.
The V8's quite entertaining ... the "old" one, I mean, rather than the
"new" one, IYSWIM.
Lozzo
> Bear said:
> > Lozzo says...
> >> I always wanted a chrome bumpered MGB GT in BRG. Fuck only knows why, I
> >> just like them.
> >
> >Have you driven one? The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
> >GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
> >
> >... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
>
> I really cannot appreciate the mindset that finds an MGB desirable.
> Don't go, don't stop, don't go round corners.
> Fucking awful things to work on, too - I still wake up in cold
> sweats with trunnions on my mind. The V8 model is a little better in
> that it sounds nice and goes a bit, but the otehr caveats still apply
> and in fact are compounded by the bit of extra weight over the front
> end and those fuckawful to clean alloy wheels that were fitted to
> them.
Don't care, I still one.
Lozzo
> > trimming and motor accessories trade for donkey's years. Uninspiring is
> > the way I'd describe the performance, but I still like them.
>
> Indeed, a poseur's toy only. Fuck all use as a sportscar.
>
> The V8's quite entertaining ... the "old" one, I mean, rather than the
> "new" one, IYSWIM.
I wouldn't own a BL produced one, I'd have a proper original V8 version
by Costello, if | could find one for sale.
The Older Gentleman
A neighbour, many moons ago, had the C, with the straight six lump. That
always struck me as a nice compromise between the weedy four-cylinder
lump and the V8 which *has* to be too much for the chassis.
Bear
> Bear <bastard...@gmail.com> struggled to ejaculate:
>
> > Lozzo says...
>
> >> I always wanted a chrome bumpered MGB GT in BRG. Fuck only knows why, I
> >> just like them.
> >
> >Have you driven one? The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
> >GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
> >
> >... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
>
> I really cannot appreciate the mindset that finds an MGB desirable.
> Don't go, don't stop, don't go round corners.
They don't even look *that* nice either, which is a crying shame ...
except maybe the convertible.
> Fucking awful things to work on, too - I still wake up in cold
> sweats with trunnions on my mind. The V8 model is a little better in
> that it sounds nice and goes a bit, but the otehr caveats still apply
> and in fact are compounded by the bit of extra weight over the front
> end and those fuckawful to clean alloy wheels that were fitted to
> them.
Rostyles? I forget ...
Yeah the V8 is ... er ... "interesting" in the wet and no mistake.
> The only MGs that appeal to me are the likes of the TF and its ilk or
> perhaps a Midget with a snorty motor in it.
I hate the midget looks, but I did used to know a bloke who tuned
engines for a living and had some sort of mental Cosworth engine in one;
the "old" Cosworth ford lumps, not the new turbo things; it went like
stink up til about 80, then hit a brick wall, IYSWIM.
Still, MGs keeps lots of appalling "flat cap, driving gloves" drivers
off the roads on sunny sundays, so I suppose we shouldn't complain :)
> I'd take yer arm off if you offered me a GT6 or a TR6, mind - but one
> of my favourite little sportscars was a Spitfire of all things that
> one of my mates shoehorned a 2.5 lump into. That sounded well and
> went acceptably, although the handling was a little exciting at times.
> In order to give him some competition, I dropped an Alfa two litre
> twincam motor and box into a Spitty - that was pretty good fun, too.
Oh jesus, if anything the Spitfire was even worse! *Horrible* car, truly
horrible, but the GT6 was miles better, considering it was effectively a
Triumph parts-bin special, designed at mega-short notice.
A mate's dad used to have a Vitesse (Herald) with the 2 litre "sports
six" lump in. Nasty car, nice engine.
Lozzo
> A neighbour, many moons ago, had the C, with the straight six lump. That
> always struck me as a nice compromise between the weedy four-cylinder
> lump and the V8 which *has* to be too much for the chassis.
They don't go that much better than the 1800 though, and weight
distribution is all fucked up because of the really heavy cast iron 6
cylinder engine. The alloy V8 engine weighed about the same as the cast
iron 1800, so the already doubtful handling wasn't affected too much. BL
really fucked up with their version of the V8 because they unnecessarily
oversrung and overdamped all the suspension to allow for the V8.
Costello was far more subtle in his approach.
Pip
to ejaculate:
>Lozzo <lo...@speedyspic.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Bear says...
>> > Have you driven one? The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
>> > GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
>> I've driven loads, you seem to forget I worked in the classic car
>> trimming and motor accessories trade for donkey's years. Uninspiring is
>> the way I'd describe the performance, but I still like them.
>
>A neighbour, many moons ago, had the C, with the straight six lump. That
>always struck me as a nice compromise between the weedy four-cylinder
>lump and the V8 which *has* to be too much for the chassis.
Fuckawful thing, the MGC. The B motor was a heavy old lump, the V8
was huge but at least most of it was alloy - the C had a dinosaur iron
six that weighed shitloads and was hardly quicker than the 1800 four.
Way too much weight over and in front of the front axle,
neccassarily rock-hard front suspension = recipe for disaster. They
were infamous for going straight on round corners, or straight over
roundabouts - literally, I mean.
I can think of five Cs that met their end in hedges and walls after
failing to negotiate bends - two of them took mates with them to the
great scrapyard. Awful cars.
It took BL to take a shite car and make it twice as bad.
Bear
> I can think of five Cs that met their end in hedges and walls after
> failing to negotiate bends - two of them took mates with them to the
> great scrapyard. Awful cars.
> It took BL to take a shite car and make it twice as bad.
Plus of course the cooling on Cs, even when new, was (on a sunny day),
"marginal" at best.
Bear
says...
Yep, and the main problem with the MG V8 had less to do with suspension,
and more to do with tyres; in the wet, on OE tyres, they're a sodding
handful; if they'd had more modern stuff available then it would have
been a much easier vehicle to deal with.
Christofire
> As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> what do you think this is?
>
> http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
Old. Shiny, but old.
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Full throttle for 55 minutes - a hell of a buzz.
Lozzo
> Lozzo wrote:
>
> > As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> > what do you think this is?
> >
> > http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
>
> Old. Shiny, but old.
I don't like modern art.
steve auvache
>The Older Gentleman says...
>
>> A neighbour, many moons ago, had the C, with the straight six lump. That
>> always struck me as a nice compromise between the weedy four-cylinder
>> lump and the V8 which *has* to be too much for the chassis.
>
>They don't go that much better than the 1800 though, and weight
>distribution is all fucked up because of the really heavy cast iron 6
>cylinder engine. The alloy V8 engine weighed about the same as the cast
>iron 1800, so the already doubtful handling wasn't affected too much.
There was fuck all wrong with the handling on my B. Set against its
contemporaries it was really rather good.
--
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MZ TS150: (on holiday in the country) for sale.
Bandit 600 (in a rather fetching blue)
steve auvache
>Bear <bastard...@gmail.com> struggled to ejaculate:
>
>> Lozzo says...
>
>>> I always wanted a chrome bumpered MGB GT in BRG. Fuck only knows why, I
>>> just like them.
>>
>>Have you driven one? The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
>>GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
>>
>>... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
>
>I really cannot appreciate the mindset that finds an MGB desirable.
>Don't go, don't stop, don't go round corners.
> Fucking awful things to work on, too - I still wake up in cold
>sweats with trunnions on my mind.
Piss easy to work on, all you need is small hands. I have got small
enough hands to be able to change the starter motor without lifting the
engine. So there.
The Older Gentleman
> Piss easy to work on, all you need is small hands. I have got small
> enough hands to be able to change the starter motor without lifting the
> engine.
"You have a woman's hands, my lord...."
mb
> mb wrote:
8<
>> I found a page of photos with something strange...
>> http://www.mhoff.de/grafik/motorrad/kawa_05.jpg
>>
>> Wot is it?
>
> It's a motorcycle.
Aah, a connysewer.
> Google for Allen Millyard.
I did, vay interesting. I like the V12 Kawasaki Z 1300, or is that a Z2600?
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Lozzo <lo...@speedyspic.co.uk>
saying something like:
>> A neighbour, many moons ago, had the C, with the straight six lump. That
>> always struck me as a nice compromise between the weedy four-cylinder
>> lump and the V8 which *has* to be too much for the chassis.
>
>They don't go that much better than the 1800 though, and weight
>distribution is all fucked up because of the really heavy cast iron 6
>cylinder engine.
Small commercial lump, afair. Abysmal performance for the size of it.
--
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platypus
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:46:18 +0000, platypus wrote:
>
>> mb wrote:
> 8<
>>> I found a page of photos with something strange...
>>> http://www.mhoff.de/grafik/motorrad/kawa_05.jpg
>>>
>>> Wot is it?
>>
>> It's a motorcycle.
>
> Aah, a connysewer.
>
>> Google for Allen Millyard.
>
> I did, vay interesting. I like the V12 Kawasaki Z 1300, or is that a
> Z2600?
2281cc, so KZ2300, I reckon.
http://motorcyclistonline.com/features/kawv12/
Nigel Eaton
<mono...@blueyonder.co.uk> typed
He does, indeed, have it badged as a Z2300.
Not a KZ, 'cos he's not a Septic.
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Bear
Curmudgeon says...
> It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Lozzo <lo...@speedyspic.co.uk>
> saying something like:
>
> >> A neighbour, many moons ago, had the C, with the straight six lump. That
> >> always struck me as a nice compromise between the weedy four-cylinder
> >> lump and the V8 which *has* to be too much for the chassis.
> >
> >They don't go that much better than the 1800 though, and weight
> >distribution is all fucked up because of the really heavy cast iron 6
> >cylinder engine.
>
> Small commercial lump, afair. Abysmal performance for the size of it.
It's the shit head design and general awfulness of the gas flow that did
for the power output on both the sixes and the fours ... I read a book
on gas flowing the four (B series? can't recall) by someone who *really*
knew their shit and it was the most involved, complex, fiddly and
generally difficult tune work I've seen this side of a formula one
engine ... and all that for a 15 bhp increase :)
Ben Blaney
>In article <MPG.1c0015a6a...@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
>says...
>> Ben Blaney says...
>> >
>> > I've got one of them, in a shed in Surrey with a 1965 MGB that hasn't
>> > turned a wheel in 5 years. I hope my bike doesn't have the same fate.
>>
>> I always wanted a chrome bumpered MGB GT in BRG. Fuck only knows why, I
>> just like them.
>
>Have you driven one?
Of course. The one in the garage with my 400 Four.[0]
>The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
>GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
I haven't driven a V8.
>... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
They are just cute little cars to tool about it.
[0] Lozzo, see, I was paying attention.
--
Ben Blaney
Ben Blaney
>Ben Blaney <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Lozzo wrote:
>>
>>>As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
>>>what do you think this is?
>>>
>>>http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
>>
>> *class*
>>
>> I've got one of them, in a shed in Surrey with a 1965 MGB that hasn't
>> turned a wheel in 5 years. I hope my bike doesn't have the same fate.
>
>Didn't know you were a fellow sufferer.
It's not mine. Yet.
I am into classic cars, though.
>I had a 64 and a 65 MGB, I'd have another if I could find one that wasn't
>trying desperately to emulate a graham cracker/slice of swiss cheese...
heh
--
Ben Blaney
Ben Blaney
>I really cannot appreciate the mindset that finds an MGB desirable.
>Don't go, don't stop, don't go round corners.
They're cute, and the spares are plentiful, and they're cheap, and the
hark back to a simpler time, a time when...
(cont'd p94)
--
Ben Blaney
Lozzo
> Bear wrote:
> Of course. The one in the garage with my 400 Four.[0]
>
> >The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
> >GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
>
> I haven't driven a V8.
>
> >... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
>
> They are just cute little cars to tool about it.
It's the very British shape and the sound of one throttling off with a
standard exhaust that does it for me. In reality I know they're a pretty
crap car to drive, but that doesn't put me off wanting one. It's a bit
like owning classic bikes. They don't do anything anywhere near as well
as modern bikes, but you just love riding them.
> [0] Lozzo, see, I was paying attention.
Good man. Go easy now, or you'll pick up a 'sad' tag, like mine.
Ben Blaney
>It's the very British shape and the sound of one throttling off with a
>standard exhaust that does it for me. In reality I know they're a pretty
>crap car to drive, but that doesn't put me off wanting one. It's a bit
>like owning classic bikes. They don't do anything anywhere near as well
>as modern bikes, but you just love riding them.
Exactly. There are all sorts of classic vehicles I'd like to own.
The good news is that they're all so cheap - relatively speaking. One
of the things I'd like is a Morris Oxford/Austin Cambridge. Don't
know why.
--
Ben Blaney
Lozzo
All ended up on banger tracks, which makes them a bit hard to find now.
Back in 1981/2 our old bike club had a Cambridge as a support vehicle,
we nicknamed it the Battlebus. When it met its demise we scrounged a
very rusty and ratty MK1 Lotus Cortina to replace it. We hand painted
that hammerite black and abused it until it blew to bits, before
throwing a 1600 Kent engine in.
tallbloke
@news.individual.net:
> As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> what do you think this is?
>
> http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
>
>
Art
Because as a design it's heavy, vulnerable and inefficient.
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Ben Blaney
>Ben Blaney says...
>>One
>> of the things I'd like is a Morris Oxford/Austin Cambridge. Don't
>> know why.
>
>All ended up on banger tracks, which makes them a bit hard to find now.
Oh, neg.
Near the top of my list is a series I XJ6 - with the deep grille.
There are a few floating around in good condition, and for sensible
money, too. There's a concours-winning Daimler on autotrader with
34,000 miles for 10K.
>Back in 1981/2 our old bike club had a Cambridge as a support vehicle,
>we nicknamed it the Battlebus. When it met its demise we scrounged a
>very rusty and ratty MK1 Lotus Cortina to replace it. We hand painted
>that hammerite black and abused it until it blew to bits, before
>throwing a 1600 Kent engine in.
heh
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Lozzo
> Near the top of my list is a series I XJ6 - with the deep grille.
> There are a few floating around in good condition, and for sensible
> money, too. There's a concours-winning Daimler on autotrader with
> 34,000 miles for 10K.
Go for the early 4.2 SWB one, very rare now and the bodyshape is so pure
looking compared to the LWB that followed it[1]. The SWB 4.2 was voted
as one of the best cars ever made. I'd like a mid 70s XJ6 Coupe myself,
one of the last cars that Sir William Lyons had a hand in styling.
Just about everything you'll ever need for a Jaguar are available from
specialist suppliers all over the West Midlands. Interior trim is best
sourced from the States, believe it or not.
[1] I know my Jaguars quite well :-)
Ben Blaney
>Ben Blaney says...
>
>> Near the top of my list is a series I XJ6 - with the deep grille.
>> There are a few floating around in good condition, and for sensible
>> money, too. There's a concours-winning Daimler on autotrader with
>> 34,000 miles for 10K.
>
>Go for the early 4.2 SWB one, very rare now and the bodyshape is so pure
>looking compared to the LWB that followed it[1].
And, obviously, the desirable Manual w/Overdrive.
>The SWB 4.2 was voted
>as one of the best cars ever made. I'd like a mid 70s XJ6 Coupe myself,
>one of the last cars that Sir William Lyons had a hand in styling.
Yeah, I like them, too - and they're knocking around at under 10K. A
lot of them came in really shit colours, though. Like, literally, the
colour of shit. Still, that's the 70s for you, I suppose.
>Just about everything you'll ever need for a Jaguar are available from
>specialist suppliers all over the West Midlands. Interior trim is best
>sourced from the States, believe it or not.
>
>[1] I know my Jaguars quite well :-)
Evidently. Series III and newer don't interest me at all (except the
XKR and the 450bhp 1998 XJ6 - I don't remember the model code - that
Racing Green Cars have for sale at 25K).
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Sorby
news:Xns95A176C3273E...@195.149.20.147...
> Lozzo <lo...@speedyspic.co.uk> wrote in news:MPG.1c000739bf350bc2989bc8
> @news.individual.net:
>
> > As the Greeks don't differentiate between the two in their language,
> > what do you think this is?
> >
> > http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/025061/
> >
> >
>
> Art
>
> Because as a design it's heavy, vulnerable and inefficient.
Didn't you mean to post this to the 'Boris Down' thread?
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Lozzo
> Lozzo wrote:
>
> >Ben Blaney says...
> >
> >> Near the top of my list is a series I XJ6 - with the deep grille.
> >> There are a few floating around in good condition, and for sensible
> >> money, too. There's a concours-winning Daimler on autotrader with
> >> 34,000 miles for 10K.
That's a bit steep, but it does have some trophies to bump the price up.
> >Go for the early 4.2 SWB one, very rare now and the bodyshape is so pure
> >looking compared to the LWB that followed it[1].
>
> And, obviously, the desirable Manual w/Overdrive.
Now you're trying to find hens teeth in amongst the rocking horse shit.
> >The SWB 4.2 was voted
> >as one of the best cars ever made. I'd like a mid 70s XJ6 Coupe myself,
> >one of the last cars that Sir William Lyons had a hand in styling.
>
> Yeah, I like them, too - and they're knocking around at under 10K. A
> lot of them came in really shit colours, though. Like, literally, the
> colour of shit. Still, that's the 70s for you, I suppose.
They had some nice ideas, spoilt by bad taste.
> >Just about everything you'll ever need for a Jaguar are available from
> >specialist suppliers all over the West Midlands. Interior trim is best
> >sourced from the States, believe it or not.
> >
> >[1] I know my Jaguars quite well :-)
>
> Evidently. Series III and newer don't interest me at all (except the
> XKR and the 450bhp 1998 XJ6 - I don't remember the model code - that
> Racing Green Cars have for sale at 25K).
I wouldn't touch anything made between 1977 and the arrival of the XK8.
tallbloke
4ax.com:
> A
> lot of them came in really shit colours, though. Like, literally, the
> colour of shit. Still, that's the 70s for you, I suppose.
My Brother has a sludge pea green one. :-)
Grimly Curmudgeon
saying something like:
>It's the shit head design and general awfulness of the gas flow that did
>for the power output on both the sixes and the fours ... I read a book
>on gas flowing the four (B series? can't recall) by someone who *really*
>knew their shit and it was the most involved, complex, fiddly and
>generally difficult tune work I've seen this side of a formula one
>engine ... and all that for a 15 bhp increase :)
Probably Vizard; he really knew his stuff when it came to the A-series,
but istr he did something for the Bs too.
Bear
says...
> Bear wrote:
>
> >In article <MPG.1c0015a6a...@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
> >says...
> >> Ben Blaney says...
> >> >
> >> > I've got one of them, in a shed in Surrey with a 1965 MGB that hasn't
> >> > turned a wheel in 5 years. I hope my bike doesn't have the same fate.
> >>
> >> I always wanted a chrome bumpered MGB GT in BRG. Fuck only knows why, I
> >> just like them.
> >
> >Have you driven one?
>
> Of course. The one in the garage with my 400 Four.[0]
>
> >The only MG I'd ever have considered would be a MGB
> >GTV8; the regular ones are just so ... so ...
>
> I haven't driven a V8.
You should, they're a *hoot* (the original one, not the Rover remake),
but one word of warning; if you try to slide it the way you liked
sliding your 200SX, you *will* die. They have this weird thing where
they begin to slide and you think "ah right, that's the sliding bit,
that's not too bad, what's all the fuss about?" and then, without any
warning whatsoever, they snap like *lightning* and you're going
backwards or sideways ... as Loz mentioned, it's partially down to the
over sprung nature of the stock setup.
I once attended an MG-only race day at Brands; in among all the MGB GTs
and Cs was a V8, built by someone who clearly knew his stuff. The race
distance was 15 laps of the Indy circuit, I.e. not very far, and they
made the V8 start a lap down from the pit lane.
He'd caught up and passed everyone by lap 8.
> >... "limp" is the word that spring to mind.
>
> They are just cute little cars to tool about it.
That's fair comment (although I'm no great fan of the GTs looks; the
convertible is niceish though). But the problem is they need a *lot* of
work to keep them cute.
Bear
says...
> Ben Blaney says...
>
> > Near the top of my list is a series I XJ6 - with the deep grille.
> > There are a few floating around in good condition, and for sensible
> > money, too. There's a concours-winning Daimler on autotrader with
> > 34,000 miles for 10K.
>
> Go for the early 4.2 SWB one, very rare now and the bodyshape is so pure
> looking compared to the LWB that followed it[1]. The SWB 4.2 was voted
> as one of the best cars ever made. I'd like a mid 70s XJ6 Coupe myself,
> one of the last cars that Sir William Lyons had a hand in styling.
<sad fucker hat on>
And there were (IIRC) 67 V12 XJ6 coupes made (to special order only),
but I should imagine most have gone the way of the Red Plague by now, or
are mint and megabucks. One totally mint one came up on autotrader about
a year ago and they were asking £50,000 for it, and would get it I would
think. Can't be more than about 20 left in the world.
> Just about everything you'll ever need for a Jaguar are available from
> specialist suppliers all over the West Midlands. Interior trim is best
> sourced from the States, believe it or not.
Yep. And they don't have the bewildering electrics of the XJ40s, ergo
they're easier to look after, if you ignore the rear brakes :)
Salad Dodger
wrote:
>
>I once attended an MG-only race day at Brands; in among all the MGB GTs
>and Cs was a V8, built by someone who clearly knew his stuff. The race
>distance was 15 laps of the Indy circuit, I.e. not very far, and they
>made the V8 start a lap down from the pit lane.
>
>He'd caught up and passed everyone by lap 8.
My mate Richard had one a few years back.[1]
He attended a track-day thing at Brands, arseing around in Formula
Fords.
Later, the club went round in their own cars: the MGB-V8 was several
seconds faster.
[1] Which I don't remember fondly, having once been transported from
Gillingham to Clapham in the back "seat".
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Salad Dodger
wrote:
>And there were (IIRC) 67 V12 XJ6 coupes made (to special order only),
My first manager had one.
It did most of its miles being driven from the garage onto the drive
for its weekly wash and wax.
In 1980/1 when I saw it, it had less than 10k on the clock.
Bear
Curmudgeon says...
> It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> saying something like:
>
> >It's the shit head design and general awfulness of the gas flow that did
> >for the power output on both the sixes and the fours ... I read a book
> >on gas flowing the four (B series? can't recall) by someone who *really*
> >knew their shit and it was the most involved, complex, fiddly and
> >generally difficult tune work I've seen this side of a formula one
> >engine ... and all that for a 15 bhp increase :)
>
> Probably Vizard; he really knew his stuff when it came to the A-series,
> but istr he did something for the Bs too.
That's the chap.
IIRC his overall advice, apart from cleaning things up generally was
"it's not much of an engine, so just leave it mostly alone"
Bear
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 13:00:28 -0000, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >And there were (IIRC) 67 V12 XJ6 coupes made (to special order only),
>
> My first manager had one.
>
> It did most of its miles being driven from the garage onto the drive
> for its weekly wash and wax.
>
> In 1980/1 when I saw it, it had less than 10k on the clock.
Strewth. I should imagine that would be worth a small fortune now,
although apparently (and I'm no expert on classics), condition is the
major marker, not mileage, but it sounds like he'd win on both counts
... IIRC the £50K one had about 33K miles on, and was *totally* mint and
original.
Bear
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 12:55:33 -0000, Bear <bastard...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >I once attended an MG-only race day at Brands; in among all the MGB GTs
> >and Cs was a V8, built by someone who clearly knew his stuff. The race
> >distance was 15 laps of the Indy circuit, I.e. not very far, and they
> >made the V8 start a lap down from the pit lane.
> >
> >He'd caught up and passed everyone by lap 8.
>
> My mate Richard had one a few years back.[1]
>
> He attended a track-day thing at Brands, arseing around in Formula
> Fords.
>
> Later, the club went round in their own cars: the MGB-V8 was several
> seconds faster.
Yep, once set-up to handle properly and stripped on unnecessary shite
they go like rockets, aided by the fact the Rover V8 is one of the most
tunable engines around, with *heaps* of go-faster bits still readily
available.
The last time I looked (and this was about 3 years ago), reasonable (as
in needing a bit of work, but not too bad, and usable) MGB GTV8s were
going for about £5k, minters for 10k, but the classic market has climbed
a little since then.
> [1] Which I don't remember fondly, having once been transported from
> Gillingham to Clapham in the back "seat".
How you managed that I have no idea; even scrunched up into a foetal
ball I couldn't have fitted for more than 5 mins. You, OTOH ... must
have been like trying to post a giraffe :)
sweller
> > All ended up on banger tracks, which makes them a bit hard to find
> > now.
>
> Oh, neg.
>
> Near the top of my list is a series I XJ6 - with the deep grille.
Mostly ended up on banger tracks as did the pink [1] SII Daimler I owned
The material that followed the venerable Oxford/Cambridge/Westminsters
were Triumph 2000s (both Mk1 and Mk2 2 and 2.5s) and Granadas (Mk1 and Mk
2 - 2.0l being favourite)
[1] Factory colour with matching pink leather.
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> Mostly ended up on banger tracks as did the pink [1] SII Daimler I owned
> >
>
> [1] Factory colour with matching pink leather.
Jesus H Christ.
Mine dew, I saw a brand new shocking pink StreetKa in a Ford dealer last
week. Fuck knows who'd buy a pink car apart from Lady Penelope.
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@news.individual.net:
> Factory colour with matching pink leather.
<retch>
Ben Blaney
>> >Go for the early 4.2 SWB one, very rare now and the bodyshape is so pure
>> >looking compared to the LWB that followed it[1].
>>
>> And, obviously, the desirable Manual w/Overdrive.
A bloke who lives down the road from my Dad bought on a couple of
years ago - 1968, 1 owner from new, 32,000 miles. Paid about 6 grand
for it. I was livid.
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sweller
> > Mostly ended up on banger tracks as did the pink [1] SII Daimler I
> > owned
> >
> > [1] Factory colour with matching pink leather.
>
> Jesus H Christ.
Gird you loins:
http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/sii-front.jpg
http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/sii-interior.jpg
I ran over an East German's possessions with it.
<fx: happy sigh>
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The Older Gentleman
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>
> > > Mostly ended up on banger tracks as did the pink [1] SII Daimler I
> > > owned
> > >
> > > [1] Factory colour with matching pink leather.
> >
> > Jesus H Christ.
>
> Gird you loins:
> http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/sii-front.jpg
> http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/sii-interior.jpg
>
Christ alight.
_Ginge
> Gird you loins:
> http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/sii-front.jpg
> http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/sii-interior.jpg
>
> I ran over an East German's possessions with it.
> <fx: happy sigh>
I'm diggin' the in-dash 8 track.
Lozzo
> > Go for the early 4.2 SWB one, very rare now and the bodyshape is so pure
> > looking compared to the LWB that followed it[1]. The SWB 4.2 was voted
> > as one of the best cars ever made. I'd like a mid 70s XJ6 Coupe myself,
> > one of the last cars that Sir William Lyons had a hand in styling.
>
> <sad fucker hat on>
>
> And there were (IIRC) 67 V12 XJ6 coupes made (to special order only),
A few more than 67 actually. The XJ5.3C, as it was designated, was
always planned to be a standard production car and almost 2000 of them
were built over their 2 year production run. Most were built to special
order as demand for 5.3 litre cars wasn't very high in post fuel-crisis
Britain. A lot of them went to the US and Australia though, very few
remained in the UK. I supplied interior trim for a few of them when I
was with Bartletts. I drove a couple of them too, but I prefer the 6 for
some reason.
I think the figure of 67 models refers to those supplied with manual
gearboxes, standard spec was the Borg Warner auto.
Lozzo
That's a really early one, not many survived. The casulaty rate from
rust was horrific, and those that were left ended up on the banger
tracks.
Bear
says...
I could *well* be wrong, but (looking at the adverts), I reckon it's 67
UK cars made ... could be 67 UK cars *left* mind :)
Anyway, let's agree they're sodding rare in non-fucked condition :)
Dan L
Fuck me, that interior is so..........pink.
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Bear
>
> > > Mostly ended up on banger tracks as did the pink [1] SII Daimler I
> > > owned
> > >
> > > [1] Factory colour with matching pink leather.
> >
> > Jesus H Christ.
>
> Gird you loins:
> http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/sii-front.jpg
> http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/sii-interior.jpg
Yeah I've seen something like that in a SII Jag 4.2 before. At the time
I assumed it was a one-off moment of insanity ... only later did I learn
the factory actually *encouraged* people to do that sort of thing :)
The Pink Panther's got a lot to answer for :)
Lozzo
> I could *well* be wrong, but (looking at the adverts), I reckon it's 67
> UK cars made ... could be 67 UK cars *left* mind :)
>
> Anyway, let's agree they're sodding rare in non-fucked condition :)
http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/-1760919503/
"1873 produced"
I didn't think I'd got it wrong.
Odd Jaguar fact: Only 53 RHD XK140 dropheads were made, all 53 survived
and their whereabouts are known to the 2 main Jaguar clubs.
Bear
says...
> Bear says...
> > In article <MPG.1c01a87af...@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
> > says...
>
> > I could *well* be wrong, but (looking at the adverts), I reckon it's 67
> > UK cars made ... could be 67 UK cars *left* mind :)
> >
> > Anyway, let's agree they're sodding rare in non-fucked condition :)
>
> http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/-1760919503/
>
> "1873 produced"
>
> I didn't think I'd got it wrong.
Ah cool, ta; the ad must have been referring to the number on the Jag
register or manual cars ... I think I've remembered the number right,
but now I need to work out what it was the number *of* :)
> Odd Jaguar fact: Only 53 RHD XK140 dropheads were made, all 53 survived
> and their whereabouts are known to the 2 main Jaguar clubs.
heh.
My fave one of those "how many made?" things was the alta-jaguar (IIRC;
def a hybrid) that turned up at auction with a huge reserve ... the
owner turned down a couple of *big* offers during the viewing days, but
come auction day proper someone from one the Jag registers turned up,
got a bit suspicious over the slightly non-standard dash, ran the
chassis/engine numbers through a laptop based spreadsheet he carried and
then with a bit of detective work discovered said "alta-jaguar" had been
used for racing (at one stage with a helicopter engine in, IIRC), had
crashed and burned out completely, had been totally "re-bodied" and
there was about 2% of the original car left.
Bids were somewhat thin on the ground after that became public
knowledge.
Ben Blaney
>Ben Blaney says...
>>
>> A bloke who lives down the road from my Dad bought on a couple of
>> years ago - 1968, 1 owner from new, 32,000 miles. Paid about 6 grand
>> for it. I was livid.
>
>That's a really early one, not many survived. The casulaty rate from
>rust was horrific, and those that were left ended up on the banger
>tracks.
Criminal.
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sweller
> > That's a really early one, not many survived. The casulaty rate from
> > rust was horrific, and those that were left ended up on the banger
> > tracks.
>
> Criminal.
I had my picture (well, one of my cars) in Practical Classics [1], when
they did a two page spread on the "criminal" banger racers.
[1] I think it was this one; I didn't see it.
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Andy Bonwick
wrote:
More or less criminal than putting any other car on a banger track?
It's only a car and if it provides entertainment on it's way to
destruction then that has to be a good thing.
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Ben Blaney
>Ben Blaney wrote:
>
>> > That's a really early one, not many survived. The casulaty rate from
>> > rust was horrific, and those that were left ended up on the banger
>> > tracks.
>>
>> Criminal.
>
>I had my picture (well, one of my cars) in Practical Classics [1], when
>they did a two page spread on the "criminal" banger racers.
It was you I was thinking of. I may never forgive you for destroying
a SII, even if it was pink.
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Ben Blaney
>On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:06:20 +0300, Ben Blaney <m...@privacy.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Lozzo wrote:
>>
>>>Ben Blaney says...
>>>>
>>>> A bloke who lives down the road from my Dad bought on a couple of
>>>> years ago - 1968, 1 owner from new, 32,000 miles. Paid about 6 grand
>>>> for it. I was livid.
>>>
>>>That's a really early one, not many survived. The casulaty rate from
>>>rust was horrific, and those that were left ended up on the banger
>>>tracks.
>>
>>Criminal.
>
>More or less criminal than putting any other car on a banger track?
More criminal than killing a Mark II Granada, or some other shit like
that.
>It's only a car and if it provides entertainment on it's way to
>destruction then that has to be a good thing.
But it was a Jag, and I like Jags.
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Bear
says...
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:06:20 +0300, Ben Blaney <m...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Lozzo wrote:
> >
> >>Ben Blaney says...
> >>>
> >>> A bloke who lives down the road from my Dad bought on a couple of
> >>> years ago - 1968, 1 owner from new, 32,000 miles. Paid about 6 grand
> >>> for it. I was livid.
> >>
> >>That's a really early one, not many survived. The casulaty rate from
> >>rust was horrific, and those that were left ended up on the banger
> >>tracks.
> >
> >Criminal.
>
> More or less criminal than putting any other car on a banger track?
> It's only a car and if it provides entertainment on it's way to
> destruction then that has to be a good thing.
There's also the point that, if it's got to banger status, it's usually
*so* fucked that you'd have to spend 10 times the eventual value of the
car doing it up.
Fave banger cars, thankfully, are Mk3 & 4 Cortina 2 litres and Mk 1
Granadas, but with the 2 litre Cortina lump in coz the 3 litre doesn't
like impacts, or so I was told ... I always fancied a decent 3 litre Mk
1 Granada, and a mate had one in immaculate condition, but when the time
came for him to sell I had a company car and no space to store a 2nd one
:(
It was about the most mint older car I've ever seen; he was a complete
obsessive about it ... a real missed opportunity on my part, that one :(
Andy Bonwick
wrote:
I had one of those when I was working in SA. It was ok cosmetically
but the auto gearbox had developed a bit of a whine and it tended to
jump straight back into top too quickly when you booted it. Nice car
though.
Bear
says...
I just wish I'd taken some pics at the time; it was in a condition
*miles* better than the day it had rolled out of the showroom, had a
number of sensible performance mods (making about 180 bhp), including
the "sportspack" suspension, uprated brakes, a fully and *beautifully*
refitted cream leather interior ... mid metallic blue, cream vinyl roof
(and normally I don't like those, but this one suited it down to the
ground), spots, "S" alloys, etc ...
... it's in my "one that got away" file :(
Lozzo
> Andy Bonwick wrote:
> >It's only a car and if it provides entertainment on it's way to
> >destruction then that has to be a good thing.
>
> But it was a Jag, and I like Jags.
I look on it from a different point of view. For every snotter that ends
up on the banger track, add 100 quid to the price of a good one. Natural
selection, only the good survive.
Lozzo
> I always fancied a decent 3 litre Mk 1 Granada,
I had an immaculate 1977, Roman Bronze with beige vinyl roof, 3.0 litre
GL auto back in 1990/91. Bought for 400 quid from the local paper, sold
in Practical Classics classifieds for 2200 quid 18 months later, after
towing our caravan all over the UK. All it cost me was a new fuel tank,
which was about 50 quid, cos I managed to puncture the old one on a
campsite and then it virtually fell apart when removing it. I'd always
thought it was a bit heavy on fuel, I hadn't realised that when it was
more than half full the petrol was seeping through where the welded seam
half way up the tank had rusted.
Bear
says...
heh. Having said that, there are some excellent SIII V12s around ATM and
they're making *way* less than they should ... if only I had the space
to store them I'd get one.
Bear
says...
> Bear says...
>
> > I always fancied a decent 3 litre Mk 1 Granada,
>
> I had an immaculate 1977, Roman Bronze with beige vinyl roof, 3.0 litre
> GL auto back in 1990/91. Bought for 400 quid from the local paper, sold
> in Practical Classics classifieds for 2200 quid 18 months later
That magazine is read by a *lot* of very optimistic people :)
Lozzo
> In article <MPG.1c0312093...@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
> says...
> > Bear says...
> >
> > > I always fancied a decent 3 litre Mk 1 Granada,
> >
> > I had an immaculate 1977, Roman Bronze with beige vinyl roof, 3.0 litre
> > GL auto back in 1990/91. Bought for 400 quid from the local paper, sold
> > in Practical Classics classifieds for 2200 quid 18 months later
>
> That magazine is read by a *lot* of very optimistic people :)
The classifieds are the best place to sell any car of that age/type.
Local rags are the best place to buy them.
Bear
> Bear says...
> > In article <MPG.1c0312093...@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
> > says...
> > > Bear says...
> > >
> > > > I always fancied a decent 3 litre Mk 1 Granada,
> > >
> > > I had an immaculate 1977, Roman Bronze with beige vinyl roof, 3.0 litre
> > > GL auto back in 1990/91. Bought for 400 quid from the local paper, sold
> > > in Practical Classics classifieds for 2200 quid 18 months later
> >
> > That magazine is read by a *lot* of very optimistic people :)
>
> The classifieds are the best place to sell any car of that age/type.
> Local rags are the best place to buy them.
And eBay *if* you know what you're looking at ...
... or know someone who does.