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Tim

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Jan 16, 2024, 6:58:13 AMJan 16
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Can someone please explain this auction result?
https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-4---1961-norton-navigator/?lot=20437

I've got one of these, it even appeared in Real Classic, and I know it'd
be a cold day in Valhalla before I got that kind of money for my one.

Boots

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Jan 16, 2024, 8:08:06 AMJan 16
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On 16/01/2024 19:58 Tim penned these words:
Decimal point in the wrong place, should be £72.50
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Tim

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Jan 16, 2024, 9:04:09 AMJan 16
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On 16/01/2024 13:05, Boots wrote:
> On 16/01/2024 19:58 Tim penned these words:
>> Can someone please explain this auction result?
>> https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-4---1961-norton-navigator/?lot=20437
>>
>> I've got one of these, it even appeared in Real Classic, and I know it'd
>> be a cold day in Valhalla before I got that kind of money for my one.
>
> Decimal point in the wrong place, should be £72.50

Even that is too much. I'm wondering if it's the value of the
numberplate? Another odd thing is that it got a MoT pass seven days
after the auction.

Pete Fisher

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Jan 16, 2024, 9:27:30 AMJan 16
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Cherished number sound about right.
Perhaps it was transferred to something capable of passing an MoT and
actually needing one - 196i = Historic, so MoT exempt.
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YTC#1

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Jan 16, 2024, 9:46:23 AMJan 16
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On 16/01/2024 11:58, Tim wrote:
> Can someone please explain this auction result?
Too much is the only answer.
> https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-4---1961-norton-navigator/?lot=20437

oooh, Bangers and Cash :-)
>


> I've got one of these, it even appeared in Real Classic, and I know it'd
> be a cold day in Valhalla before I got that kind of money for my one.

Suck it an see?


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Tim

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Jan 16, 2024, 10:30:05 AMJan 16
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On 16/01/2024 14:46, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 16/01/2024 11:58, Tim wrote:
>> Can someone please explain this auction result?
> Too much is the only answer.
>> https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-4---1961-norton-navigator/?lot=20437
>
> oooh, Bangers and Cash :-)
>>
>
>
>> I've got one of these, it even appeared in Real Classic, and I know
>> it'd be a cold day in Valhalla before I got that kind of money for my
>> one.
>
> Suck it an see?
>
>
I don't think I need to as they turn-up occasionally in the usual places.

Alan Lee

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Jan 16, 2024, 11:46:58 AMJan 16
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On 16/01/2024 14:27, Pete Fisher wrote:
>> Even that is too much. I'm wondering if it's the value of the
>> numberplate? Another odd thing is that it got a MoT pass seven days
>> after the auction.
>
> Cherished number sound about right.
> Perhaps it was transferred to something capable of passing an MoT and
> actually needing one - 196i = Historic, so MoT exempt.


Yes, someone has bought it for the number, but the MOT is a mystery,
maybe it was running, it isnt too difficult to get it running if the
insides are in one piece, but it wouldnt pass with that LH silencer, and
I'm surprised the brakes work, but, 2 days in a workshop, it could be
easily made to pass an MOT. Does a vehicle have to have a MOT to be able
to transfer the Reg. No.?

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Pete Fisher

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Jan 16, 2024, 12:07:16 PMJan 16
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Good question. My guess would be yes, given that registering an import >
3 years old needs an MoT.

<Googles>
Indeed so:
Eligibility
You cannot:

assign a number starting with ‘Q’ or ‘NIQ’
put a private number on a ‘Q’ registered vehicle
use a private number that makes a vehicle look newer than it is - for
example, an ‘07’ registration number on a 2003 registered vehicle
The vehicle must:

be registered with DVLA in the UK
be able to move under its own power
be of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate
be available for inspection - DVLA will contact you if they need to
inspect your vehicle
have been taxed or had a SORN in place continuously for the past 5 years
be taxed currently or have a SORN in place - if it’s had a SORN in place
for more than 5 years, it must be taxed and have an MOT certificate
If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT
certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs.


So in that transfer of numbne scenario, you must get at least one MoT
before you can apply for VHI status, as I read it.

Makes sense I suppose.

What surprised me is the number of people who don't read the VHI stuff
properly and think their machine is eligible as soon as it is 40 years old.

My 1984 CB250RS won;t actually be eligible until 2025.

Tim

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Jan 16, 2024, 12:24:04 PMJan 16
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"be of a type that needs an MOT" but that Navigator is a 1963 model and
is MOT exempt, or am I one of these numpty that doesn't understand.

Pete Fisher

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Jan 16, 2024, 12:44:30 PMJan 16
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On 16/01/2024 17:24, Tim wrote:
> If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT
> certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs.
>

If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT
certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs.

Not sure if that works both way IYSWIM.

Tim

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Jan 17, 2024, 5:18:24 AMJan 17
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On 16/01/2024 17:44, Pete Fisher wrote:
> On 16/01/2024 17:24, Tim wrote:
>> If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current
>> MOT certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs.
>>
>
> If you have a historic (classic) vehicle you’ll also need a current MOT
> certificate, even if your vehicle is usually exempt from MOTs.
>
> Not sure if that works both way IYSWIM.
>
Oh TYVM, my one is SORN'd at the moment so that's another item on the
round tuit.

Lone Wolf

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Jan 22, 2024, 4:25:08 AMJan 22
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On 16/01/2024 14:04, Tim wrote:

Wotcha
That'll be the reason.
A fellow in our club has the reg No. 2 PHA

Twice now he's been contacted by the police asking if he still has that
number on his bike . . . he shows 'em the bike in the garage. It seems
that certain "cherished number" dealers had sold his registration number.

Tim

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Jan 22, 2024, 4:46:29 AMJan 22
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Ouch. At least my one is in the format "123 ABC" and probably not as
valuable.
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