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Christopher Harrop

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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I'm looking for a copy of the Hornby Minitrix catalogue (well leaflet
really) that was published in the seventies illustrating the British N gauge
range. I would like to have a copy for reference purposes and would be
willing to purchase it. Alternatively could someone send me scanned jpg
images of the catalogue, or, loan me a copy for a couple of days so I can
scan it.

I've been told that Minitrix didn't publish a catalogue illustrating the
British range but if they did I would be interested in having this as well,
or scanned images of it.

Chris Harrop
chris-...@vale34.freeserve.co.uk

Anthony New

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Sep 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/7/99
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Christopher Harrop wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a copy of the Hornby Minitrix catalogue (well leaflet
> really) that was published in the seventies illustrating the British N gauge
> range. I would like to have a copy for reference purposes and would be
> willing to purchase it. Alternatively could someone send me scanned jpg
> images of the catalogue, or, loan me a copy for a couple of days so I can
> scan it.
>

I'm not familiar with "Hornby Minitrix", but I have a Triang-Wren
N-gauge catalogue of 1970 with the products made for them by Lima - is
this by any chance the same range?

Or is it the range now sold by Graham Farish? Ranges seemed to change
hands so often it's difficult to keep up with them!

> I've been told that Minitrix didn't publish a catalogue illustrating the
> British range but if they did I would be interested in having this as well,
> or scanned images of it.
>

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Christopher Harrop

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Sep 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/8/99
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> I'm not familiar with "Hornby Minitrix", but I have a Triang-Wren
> N-gauge catalogue of 1970 with the products made for them by Lima - is
> this by any chance the same range?
>
> Or is it the range now sold by Graham Farish? Ranges seemed to change
> hands so often it's difficult to keep up with them!

Triang-Wren isn't the same range as Hornby-Minitrix, nor is it Farish. I
wasn't aware that Lima N gauge products were originally marketed by
Triang-Wren but they were marketed under the name of Wren-Lima prior to Lima
marketing them under their own name then dropping the whole range as they
did with O gauge. Hang on to the catalogue though it might become a
collectors item.

A similar situation applied to the Hornby-Minitrix range. This was the
British outline products made by the German manufacturer Trix whose N gauge
range was called Minitrix. Included in the range was a 9F in black and green
version as Evening Star, a Britania, a Warship diesel, a Class 26/27 diesel,
an Ivatt tender loco and I think an Ivatt tank, and an A4. There were some
more but I don't remember what at the moment. No doubt some one else can
supply a complete list. There was also a range of wagons and coaches. All
the models were made to the continental N scale of 1:160 and were therefore
small in comparason to British N at 1:148. The models used existing chassis
(usually from models of German locomotives) but had black wheels and British
outline bodies fitted. Some were pretty good and the mechanisms were usually
of high quality. However, some had glaring faults especially the 9F. To
start with the Evening Star version only has a single chimney instead of a
double and some of the dimensions were way off. Models can still be found on
the second hand market. I've seen a mint Evening Star commanding a premium
price of 85 pounds and the black version 65. The Ivatt tender usually goes
for 40-45 pounds and a Warship for 30-45.

As far as I know Trix have never published a catalogue of British outline
but for a short time Hornby published a leaflet consisting of a couple of
sheets. It's this leaflet that I'm trying to get hold of.

Chris.


Dave Fossett

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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Christopher Harrop <chris-...@vale34.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...

> As far as I know Trix have never published a catalogue of British outline
> but for a short time Hornby published a leaflet consisting of a couple of
> sheets. It's this leaflet that I'm trying to get hold of.

Excuse me for butting in midway, but I used to have a Hornby-Minitrix N gauge
catalogue. I think it was around 1981.
My memory is a bit hazy now, but it was more than just a leaflet. If I recall
correctly, it was roughly A5 size, full colour and stapled. The range of models
wasn't that huge, so there couldn't have been many pages to it though.

--
Dave Fossett
Saitama, JAPAN


David Haire

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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Dave Fossett wrote in message <7r7jun$dsp$1...@news.telewaynet.ad.jp>...

I also had a copy of that catalogue, although my recollection of the date
is sometime in the late '70's as it disappeared about that time, coinciding
with a house move.

Your description accords with my memory of the leaflet and I agree that the
range of models was limited to the five or six locos. I also seem to
remember it included a small range of PO wagons, but no passenger vehicles;
however, my memory isn't what it was and I could be mistaken.

David Haire

Tim Hall

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 22:47:25 +0100, "Christopher Harrop"
<chris-...@vale34.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>All
>the models were made to the continental N scale of 1:160 and were therefore
>small in comparason to British N at 1:148

There were actually 1:148 (sort of), not 1:160, although many of the
models were so inaccurate (like that 9F) that the precise scale was
academic.

Best models were the Gresley coaches, HAA coal hopper and
(surprisingly for it's age) the BR brake van, is far more accurate
than the Peco version.

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Tim Hall, timjh (at) csi.com
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Bill Foote

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Sep 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/10/99
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Minitrix is still very much alive and well (belongs to Märklin
these days, with Gaugemaster as the U.K. agent as they are for
_all_ Märklin Group products)

At one time Hornby (Margate) were the U.K. importers/distributors,
using the name "Hornby Minitrix" - IIRC this was after the period
when Wrenn were the U.K. agents for Lima N - after all it is not
usual for one group of companies to be the agent for two competing
product ranges

Anthony New wrote:
>
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with "Hornby Minitrix", but I have a Triang-Wren
> N-gauge catalogue of 1970 with the products made for them by Lima - is
> this by any chance the same range?
>
> Or is it the range now sold by Graham Farish? Ranges seemed to change
> hands so often it's difficult to keep up with them!
>

Philip Saunders

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Sep 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/10/99
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I have a copy of one of the Hornby Minitrix catalogues. Dated about
1985, or there abouts (the catalogue number is N.640/85). It is
A5-ish size and four pages (i.e. 8 sides). It covers Locos, rolling
stock, track and some buildings. Before the well reviewed Gresley
coaches though.

Sandy Saunders
Worcester

Anthony New

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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Christopher Harrop wrote:
>
> > I'm not familiar with "Hornby Minitrix", but I have a Triang-Wren
> > N-gauge catalogue of 1970 with the products made for them by Lima - is
> > this by any chance the same range?
> >
> > Or is it the range now sold by Graham Farish? Ranges seemed to change
> > hands so often it's difficult to keep up with them!
>
> Triang-Wren isn't the same range as Hornby-Minitrix, nor is it Farish. I
> wasn't aware that Lima N gauge products were originally marketed by
> Triang-Wren but they were marketed under the name of Wren-Lima prior to Lima
> marketing them under their own name then dropping the whole range as they
> did with O gauge. Hang on to the catalogue though it might become a
> collectors item.
>
(snip)

Thanks, Chris, for the interesting info. I realised they were different
when I got around to reading the appropriate chapter of "The Rovex
Story" (Vol 2). But can anyone tell me about the other N-gauge makers? I
had some "Lone Star" solid-metal trains as a boy, and saw the electric
"treble-0" versions on sale. I understand Rovex were offered them but
refused, before marketing the Lima range under the Wren brand for a
while, but what happened to Lone Star after that? And what about the
Farrish range - did they start that from scratch?

I also found a website covering Trix, which lists the Minitrix
catalogues made. Perhaps you've seen it?

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/9346/trixhist.html

Best wishes.

Pete Donohue

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Sep 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/14/99
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I have most of the 'N' catalogues from around that era. Two are Hornby
Minitrix :-
1) A4 sized 4 page folder, all British dated "1st Edition-1973", their words
not mine - probably the one you're looking for.
2)Smaller (8 1/4 x 7 3/4") 32 page stapled, dated 1982.

Make me an offer and it's yours. Anybody else looking for anything
around that time let me know, I might have it. I'm not a collector but just
don't throw anything away. Into American HO now after a long spell with US
'n'.

Cheers Pete Donohue.

Anthony New

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Sep 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/14/99
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Pete Donohue wrote:
>
> I have most of the 'N' catalogues from around that era. Two are Hornby
> Minitrix :-
> 1) A4 sized 4 page folder, all British dated "1st Edition-1973", their words
> not mine - probably the one you're looking for.
> 2)Smaller (8 1/4 x 7 3/4") 32 page stapled, dated 1982.
>
> Make me an offer and it's yours. Anybody else looking for anything
> around that time let me know, I might have it. I'm not a collector but just
> don't throw anything away. Into American HO now after a long spell with US
> 'n'.
>
> Cheers Pete Donohue.
>

I'm looking for Triang Railways Catalogues no.s 11 and 12, and any
before edition 9 (which I have). I'd also love to find a Hornby Dublo
catalogue (preferably from 1963 or 1964) and a Wren catalogue from
fairly late. Would you have these by any chance?

Thanks

Pete Donohue

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Sep 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/15/99
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Anthony New wrote in message <37DE2D...@wsi.no.junk>...

>
>I'm looking for Triang Railways Catalogues no.s 11 and 12, and any
>before edition 9 (which I have). I'd also love to find a Hornby Dublo
>catalogue (preferably from 1963 or 1964) and a Wren catalogue from
>fairly late. Would you have these by any chance?
>

Anthony,
You're in luck on one, I've got the 11th. edition including price list,
not mint but OK. Wow, this takes me back. The Blue Pullman, the
Frontiersman, Triangs version of a Budd RDC.
The only other 2 are a Triang/Hornby catalogue dated 1966 and a Hornby
Railways edition 19 dated 1973. The only Wren I have is 'N' gauge -
Triang/Wren N1/70 - I assume this might be the date 1970. Email me if
interested and make an offer, it's time I had a clearout.
I've also got a few bits of unused 'OO' stock from around 1970ish (a
guess) - an Airfix Brush A1A (unused in box) and some unbuilt Peco wagon
kits and unbuilt Airfix. If the group is interested I'll put a list up.
Nothing of great value or rarity which is why I haven't bothered
advertising.

Cheers, Pete Donohue.

Graeme Hearn

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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Below is my webpage for Catalogues I do have a lot of others not listed in a
lot of scales and brand names please E-mail me with any special wants.
Graeme Hearn

http://www.wagga.net.au/~ironhorse/stock/Triang_Hornby_Catalogues.html

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> I'm looking for a copy of the Hornby Minitrix catalogue (well leaflet
> really) that was published in the seventies illustrating the British N
gauge
> range. I would like to have a copy for reference purposes and would be
> willing to purchase it. Alternatively could someone send me scanned jpg
> images of the catalogue, or, loan me a copy for a couple of days so I can
> scan it.
>

> I've been told that Minitrix didn't publish a catalogue illustrating the
> British range but if they did I would be interested in having this as
well,
> or scanned images of it.
>

> Chris Harrop
> chris-...@vale34.freeserve.co.uk
>
>
>
>

Anthony New

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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Graeme Hearn wrote:
>
> Below is my webpage for Catalogues I do have a lot of others not listed in a
> lot of scales and brand names please E-mail me with any special wants.
> Graeme Hearn
>

Interesting site. You seem to have a lot of TH catalogues available, but
the prices seem high by UK standards. Most of the post-Triang Hornby
catalogues sell for about 2 to 3 UKP, which would be about 8 - 10
Australian dollars at 2.5 dollars/pound. Are they much more rare in
Aussieland?
Are they actually the same catalogues, anyway? ISTR Triang-Hornby used
to do different catalogues for each market.

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