Marklin stores in London or Oxford??
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next month. Are there any good used Marklin stores that anyone can
recommend?
Thanks,
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P.S. reply applies throughout the U.K., not just London and
Oxford (there is no significant market for Märklin in the
U.K. - do not even bother to try the official importer - his
stocks are poor and grossly overpriced)
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David E. Belcher
RoyaltyFreePhotos.com wrote:
> I will be in London and Oxford on business for a few days the middle of
> next month. Are there any good used Marklin stores that anyone can
> recommend?
>
>
Not very well up on Continental HO matters, but the one of the main
shops for overseas models in London is Victors of 166 Pentonville Rd.,
Islington (tel. 0207 278 1019). Could be worth a try.
Hope this helps,
David E. Belcher
Dept. of Chemistry,
University of York
Nick Beard
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Mark Ayliffe
> RoyaltyFreePhotos.com wrote:
>
>> I will be in London and Oxford on business for a few days the middle
>> of next month. Are there any good used Marklin stores that anyone
>> can recommend?
>>
>>
>
> Not very well up on Continental HO matters, but the one of the main
> shops for overseas models in London is Victors of 166 Pentonville Rd.,
> Islington (tel. 0207 278 1019). Could be worth a try.
Victors closed a year or two back. And they never sold Marklin I think.
But I'm more into US than continental outline. Try:
http://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/counties/model_shop_directory.html
It says British outline in the titles, but I see MG Sharp is listed & I
don't think they do any such.
Mark
Bill Foote
is new (the original post enquired about second hand)
BTW when did Hamleys move from _Regent_Street_?
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Bill Foote
ago, when Bernie finally retired
Sadly missed (even though he never stocked Märklin)
"David E. Belcher" <deb...@york.ac.uk> wrote >
David E. Belcher
Mark Ayliffe wrote:
>
> Victors closed a year or two back. And they never sold Marklin I think.
> But I'm more into US than continental outline.
Hadn't realised that; they still popped up on a few web directories,
complete with new-style dialling code.
Mark Ayliffe
>>
>> Victors closed a year or two back. And they never sold Marklin I
>> think. But I'm more into US than continental outline.
>
> Hadn't realised that; they still popped up on a few web directories,
> complete with new-style dialling code.
I think Bernard sold the name to someone who intended to sell mail order &
via the 'net. Nothing much seems to have come from it though.
Mark
Bill Foote
into books than anything else - certainly nothing like the
real thing
"Mark Ayliffe"
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wheels of steel, bond st tube, have s/h marklin stocks
ring them on:
44 (0) 7 629 2813 or (0)20 8505 0750, jeff williams.
You may do better to look on ebay.de!
Bill Foote
Pearce (the guy who runs a model shop in Abingdon) claiming
that he has comprehensive stocks of Miniclub - I have asked
him to supply me with his current stocklist of items
available for immediate "over the counter" delivery, which I
await with interest (my experience of most so-called M.
dealers in the U.K. is that they hold sweet FA stock, and
end up offering to "we will get it for you, Sir, come back
next week when we _might_ have it"
Regardless of anything that one or two U.K. Märklin dealers
might have in stock, my advice remains, i.e. "Do not bother
to attempt to buy Märklin in the U.K. - there is negligible
trade in second hand items, and prices for new are so
inflated that you will save considerable sums buying by mail
order from Germany"
As an example of the price inflation in the U.K., I recall
buying a Märklin H0 train consist at an ordinary toy shop
(NOT a discount dealer) in Germany - when I received my
Credit Card statement the total sum debited, inclusive of
exchange costs, etc., was £104 - the U.K. list price was
given by Gaugemaster as £270 - need I say more
P.S. If anybody is interested in seeing Miniclub in action
in the U.K. come to the Village Hall at Radley (as it
happens just outside Abingdon) on Saturday June 8th where
there is a model railway day, to raise funds for a local
Hospice, that will include a little Miniclub layout
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>RoyaltyFreePhotos.com wrote:
>
>> I will be in London and Oxford on business for a few days the middle of
>> next month. Are there any good used Marklin stores that anyone can
>> recommend?
>>
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Try Osborn's Models 2-4 Marcham Road, Abingdon, OX14 1AA Tel 01235 522700
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Bill Foote
Pearce, to whom I made reference earlier - he has NOT
produced a stock list despite my request!
I repeat my advice - do NOT buy new Märklin in the U.K. -
use reputable German Mail Order outlets such as ETS
Waiblingen (http://www/modeleisenbahn.com) and save
substantial sums of money
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> Miniclub ONLY (and probably only NEW) - Osborn's = Maurice
> Pearce, to whom I made reference earlier - he has NOT
> produced a stock list despite my request!
>
> I repeat my advice - do NOT buy new Märklin in the U.K. -
> use reputable German Mail Order outlets such as ETS
> Waiblingen (http://www/modeleisenbahn.com) and save
> substantial sums of money
Yes, we keep hearing your advice but surely just because
thats your opinion it shouldnt stop other people offering
theirs?
John Watson
Steve Thomas
One or two things to clear up - firstly I live close-ish to Abingdon and
know Maurice P. As far as I'm aware he has good stocks of Z gauge (I've
personally seen quite a bit of it), and Fleischmann and Minitrix continental
N, as well as what can be got of Grafar/Bachmann N (UK-prototype), and Kato
(various prototype countries).
Although he does stock some OO and HO - a decent selection - MP. is a
specialist in the smaller scales and those of us who dabble / have dabbled
in these smaller scales have good reason to be glad he's there. I have not
known him to whinge any more than the rest of us and he's given me plenty of
help and advice over the last year or two while I've been building an N
gauge layout. The shop is an offical Maerklin "mini-club centre" and
although this in itself doesn't guarantee enormous stocks, there's also
American Z (and N) to be seen there. I try and visit when I can, am usually
offered a cuppa, and always enjoy the experience. So (leaving this argument
over stock apart), Maurice is exactly the type of enterprising local dealer
we should all be supporting - usual disclaimers apply, I speak only as a
satisfied customer. BTW, not every dealer in the UK is used to providing
stock-lists - this varies and is not necessarily an indication either way.
Bahnhof (below) certainly do this, but by and large most others don't.
When it comes to M* HO, I completely agree about the Importers (Gaugemaster
in Arundel) and wouldn't bother with them unless I was passing (very)
nearby. Nevertheless, unless you take Bill's very hard line on price (in the
US on the Maerklin lists they are having the same sorts of arguments about
their prices, BTW), I would recommend an excursion to "Bahnhof for Marklin"
which is in Mildenhall in Suffolk. As it's a family concern it's necessary
to phone first (see Ads in every Continental Modeller), but they do their
own discounts, which helps with cost, plus (usually) an interesting
selection of good second-hand items. Again I know Brian Lockwood, the
proprietor, and again you will be made welcome. Lastly (nearer Oxford), a
visit to "The Marlow Donkey" in Cookham. Berks. is usually very worthwhile.
So whilst I agree that UK prices (certainly the official RRPs) are generally
high-ish, and that London is disgracefully bereft of Marklin, and indeed any
other decent model railway dealers, not all is gloom. If we NEVER support
any of these guys, who are trying hard in a difficult market, it will just
get even worse.
Just my tuppence-worth
Steve Thomas
--
"To be free, to be who you are"
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MartinS
> Lastly (nearer Oxford), a
> visit to "The Marlow Donkey" in Cookham. Berks. is usually very
> worthwhile.
>
What's the best way to Cookham?
Slowly, over a candle. (Ken Dodd)
Likewise: What's the best way to Oldham?
One in each hand.
--
Martin S.
Anthony New
>
> >
> > Victors closed a year or two back. And they never sold Marklin I think.
> > But I'm more into US than continental outline.
Model Masters (?) in Weston-super-mare stock most of the foreign stuff,
I think. Good range of Fleishmann, anyway.
Anthony.
Bill Foote
Marlow Donkey (and the various other names he trades under)
had, or was about to, stopped handling Märklin, as sales had
been disappointing
So, at least give him a call before travelling
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Models demanding that I withdraw my advice against buying
Märklin from U.K. dealers - I shall _not_ be complying in
the foreseeable future - read on for the reasons
He has quoted me some stock levels (without fully
identifying the stock concerned, let alone quoting prices),
and does state that he has some second hand items, which
would appear to be supported by Steve's report, and he has
attempted to excuse the higher prices charged in the U.K.
(he seems to think the whole problem would vanish if the
U.K. adopted the Euro in place of the Pound)
In the absence of any prices being quoted by Maurice, I can
only assume that he is asking the same sort of (Gaugemaster
Retail List) prices as I observed at another local dealer
only yesterday, and compare them with the prices currently
being quoted by one of the leading German Mail Order dealers
(conversion rate used €1 = £0.64) as follows
[BTW make sure that you have Euro support installed before
reading further (to check type "Alt Gr + 4" and you should
see a Euro symbol thus : €)]
Mä8895 (2-6-0T, class BR75) £71 in U.K., €68.69 (£44) in
Germany
Mä8878 or 8879 (BR218 Diesel) £112 in U.K. €97.61 (£62.47)
in Germany
I rest my case, and will continue to recommend any
interested parties NOT to deal with U.K. Märklin dealers,
but to make their purchases from one or more of the
reputable German dealers who are only too happy to supply at
their much more reasonable prices
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Steve Thomas
Aside from my notes re various good UK retailers (below) I really have no
problem with the notion expressed that Marklin is more cheaply obtained
in/from Europe, particularly from Germany. Obviously, there are the usual
things that make people think twice about MO - you can't see it run first
etc., but in general it has to be said that the leading German shops are in
the main very efficient, pack items well, and apart from a few weird
bank-type charges, offer a tempting service.
My own view on the Euro is merely that when (or if ever) we eventually
become a "full euro" country, than at least straight comparisons can be
made - as I presume they can already in Holland (whose economy has long
shadowed the DM anyway), France and Belgium. I also believe that in a truly
"common" market prices would be harmonised, the only variables being
shipping and possibly VAT - but we are (unfortunately IMHO) far from there
yet.
I have very little time for G'master except that they bring the stuff in,
which is good as far as it goes. None of the Marklin importers over the
years have done a great deal for the brand, and it has to be said that
prices apart, Gm. have done better than the others in supporting it, though
their advertising is not by any means "exciting". BTW, I believe that
Maurice, (like the Bahnhof certainly does) deals direct and not through Gm.
but I am not sure. Regarding Cookham, yes the proprietor has at least once
told me he intends to stop doing Marklin - though so far since then I've
always seen new Marklin items when I've visited there. Again, this may have
changed recently.
I think we pays our money and we takes our choice(s) - I'm aware of Bill's
view, which does make economic sense in terms of buying price alone, and I
would not expect him to change it, or recommend other than what he honestly
feels. He also knows that I am somewhat "on the fence" on this issue - I
would very, VERY much like to see Marklin doing well in this country and see
people getting the benefits of its quality, and so I do continue to
patronise (in the nice sense!) a few dealers I've come to know over the
years. On the other hand I've been over to Berlin buying Marklin, and have
also used German MO establishments. There are more decent pieces of Marklin
for sale in the classified ads of the average German local paper than you'd
see in 5 years in the UK, unless by accident you found somewhere like
Bahnhof.
Actually, this reminds me that there is (or was) a shop on Willesden High
St. which occasionally carries a little old s/h Marklin - might well be
worth a look if passing that way, but of course chances of finding something
"tasty" are random.
So there you have it. One can't honestly say that Britain is a place the
"collector at large" would ever, EVER visit to find Marklin - BUT if the
addiction is strong and a "fix" of M* HO is needed, the Bahnhof is the best
bet - in fact in my view it's nearly "the only (good) game in town". Z is
different and can be found in all sorts of places (many are "mini-club
centres"), though older stock and s/h is of course rare. My endorsement of
Maurice in this sense is wholehearted - there are not many specialists in
imported N and Z scale (US, Japanese as well as German) in this country, and
he should be appreciated for this, as should a couple of other shops, eg.
"Plus Daughters".
Cheers
Steve
"To be free, to be who you are"
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