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outerhome

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Sep 20, 2001, 6:14:52 PM9/20/01
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I have just bought a colleagues model railway items and amongst the
collection is a Hornby loco I would like to know more about. It looks
American in style, is an 040 and has the number R254 020 on the body. The
body and chassis are genuine plastic and the engine is rather a crude model
all round, but it works well in a lunging, wobling humming sort of way which
isnt bad after 10 years in a loft. I am seriously considering rebodying it
as IVOR though if it isnt a rare and valuable item. Can any one shed any
further light on this loco?

Alan Pitt


Elliott Cowton

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Sep 21, 2001, 4:25:13 PM9/21/01
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According to my Triang Hornby Book of Trains, R254 is the Steeple Cab
locomotive introduced to coincide with the introduction of the
catenary system in 1959; this model appears to have been intended for
the Dutch market. I have one somewhere which was in BR green with a
coaching stock roundel (and very tatty) when I bought it, but is now
BR blue with double arrows. The book says withdrawn in 1963.


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Sep 22, 2001, 2:37:30 AM9/22/01
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And if it is the steeple cab electric it is relatively sought after.

Alastair
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Hammond

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Sep 22, 2001, 5:15:56 PM9/22/01
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The number R254 was used on two 0-4-0 locos at different times. It was
first used for the Tri-ang Steeple Cab electric loco in 1959 but later
on the Hornby International Tank dating from 1975. The mystery,
however, is the number you say your model carries. There is no record
of the model ever carrying the number '020'. The normal numbers were
'254' or '256'. I am interested to know more about your model and
particularly whether the number it carries is original or has been put
on by someone after purchase.

Pat Hammond

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Sep 23, 2001, 5:12:03 AM9/23/01
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Hammond <P...@mremag.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>The number R254 was used on two 0-4-0 locos at different times. It was
>first used for the Tri-ang Steeple Cab electric loco in 1959 but later
>on the Hornby International Tank dating from 1975. The mystery,
>however, is the number you say your model carries. There is no record
>of the model ever carrying the number '020'. The normal numbers were
>'254' or '256'. I am interested to know more about your model and
>particularly whether the number it carries is original or has been put
>on by someone after purchase.

Hornby have / had a habit of moulding of catalogue number followed by
a part identifier into the parts. I suspect what is referred to is
R254*020 and not a livery number.

Mike Parkes
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Hammond

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Sep 23, 2001, 6:24:27 AM9/23/01
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Of course, Mike, you are right. I should have seen that!

In that case it will be the International tank and the model is
reasonably common. Just under 7,000 were made numbered '254' and a
further 6,600 were made numbered '256'.

Pat

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>Hornby have / had a habit of moulding of catalogue number followed by
>a part identifier into the parts. I suspect what is referred to is
>R254*020 and not a livery number.
>
>Mike Parkes
>mi...@mphgate.demon.co.uk

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Anthony New

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Sep 23, 2001, 3:14:05 PM9/23/01
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Ha! Hornby strikes again!
Specifically, their practise of re-using old numbers. If the loco is a
steam-outline loco it is the Hornby "International" tank loco of the
mid-1970's, a horrible and unloved thing of little value.

The Steeple-cab loco was an early Triang thing based apparently on swiss
electric locos but actuallt bearing a good resemblance to early UK
battery electric locos. :-)

outerhome

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Sep 23, 2001, 6:32:59 PM9/23/01
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Thankyou all who replied. I never even noticed the number on the side was
the same as the part number!!! (254)
It really is an awful piece of kit with square axles in round plastic holes
and the previous owners paint job hasnt helped. So I shall re body it with
some surgery as IVOR the Engine.

Alan


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Hammond

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Sep 24, 2001, 7:21:04 AM9/24/01
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Alan,

I gather that it was also unpopular in the factory and this was one of
the reasons it was dropped. It was replaced with the Holden 0-4-0 tank
in 1978 which was produced in hundreds of thousands (and many
variations) and this was followed by the 0-4-0ST Caledonian Pug in 1980
which was equally popular and found in many liveries. The tools for
both these have gone out to China.

Pat

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>Thankyou all who replied. I never even noticed the number on the side was
>the same as the part number!!! (254)
>It really is an awful piece of kit with square axles in round plastic holes
>and the previous owners paint job hasnt helped. So I shall re body it with
>some surgery as IVOR the Engine.
>
>Alan

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