re-wheeling old Triang/Hornby power bogies
David
power bogies - both DMU & Hymek. I need to rewheel them to go through
Peco Streamline turnouts.
Does anyone know of a source of ready-geared wheels & axles? ...or am
I going to have to make them up myself?
Thanks in advance,
David
David
David
DE Belcher
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David wrote:
> Does anyone know of a source of ready-geared wheels & axles? ...or am
> I going to have to make them up myself?
>
I believe that Millholme Models used to supply the appropriate brass
wheels for press-fitting on to the plastic Triang gear/axle assemblies,
but not sure what the current supply situation is; sorry I can't be of
more help. If you're feeling adventurous and have access to a pillar
drill with a suitably-sized bit, you could try drilling out the
all-metal type of wheel used for Ringfield-type bogies (available from
good Hornby spares dealers), though the loco will need a bit of extra
ballast to make up for the loss of traction. I did actually try this on
a Hymek once, but with an ordinary electric drill, so the end result was
somewhat wobbly. Still, it's all good experience!
Regards,
David E. Belcher
Dept. of Chemistry,
University of York
Dave Smith
Have done many of these myself but it only works if you have the metal
axles. The gear type doesn't matter, brass or plastic.
Push off the old wheels and push fit new 'Diesel Wheels' from the Mike
Sharman range. They do all sizes but beware that if you fit the correct size
as per the prototype, you may find the loco rides too high.
Measure the Hornby tyre diameter and get the matching size from Sharmans.
New pick ups will be needed, of course, as these wheels have plastic
centres.
I could take a piccy and send it if you like.
Cheers
--
David Smith. Copthorne W. Sussex. UK
d...@copthorne.freeserve.co.uk
"David" <da...@neal.u-net.com> wrote in message
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> I have a number of sturdy/robust MTK models driven by Triang Hornby
> power bogies - both DMU & Hymek. I need to rewheel them to go through
> Peco Streamline turnouts.
>
> Does anyone know of a source of ready-geared wheels & axles? ...or am
> I going to have to make them up myself?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> David
>
>
Anthony New
>
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, David wrote:
>
> > I going to have to make them up myself?
(snip)
> If you're feeling adventurous and have access to a pillar
> drill with a suitably-sized bit, you could try drilling out the
> all-metal type of wheel used for Ringfield-type bogies (available from
> good Hornby spares dealers)
Alternatively, you could try cutting the point checkrails instead to
reduce the back-to-back necessary, and skimming the wheel flanges down
in a lathe or drill if they bump along the sleepers (only the early ones
do on code-100 rail). I find this works very well, though there are
those who will condemn it :-)
To me, the trains are much more valuable than the track, and changing
the wheels not only ruins most of the value (if that matters to you) but
often ruins the running qualities as well. My particular Bete Noir is
perfectly nice old Triang stock which has been butchered to fit
near-scale wheels. I often have to fit the originals back to make them
run properly, even on Peco points I *haven't* fiddled with. Doubtless
there are nicely converted examples somewhere which run perfectly on
appropriate track, but the ones I get are usually dead cheap.
But each to his or her own :-)
Anthony.
David
I see your point about not butchering a 'collectable' model, but I
used the dmu & Hymek bogies in the 1970's & early 80's to power MTK
kits. All I want to do is make them run better. Ultimately, I suppose
I should replace the power bogies themselves, but I was hoping for a
cheaper option in the meantime ;)
David
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:45:11 +0100, Anthony New <a...@nojunk.co.uk>
wrote:
Jonathan Hall
>
> I have a number of sturdy/robust MTK models driven by Triang Hornby
> power bogies - both DMU & Hymek. I need to rewheel them to go through
> Peco Streamline turnouts.
>
> I going to have to make them up myself?
In the October issue of Railway Modeller, Model Spares advertise 'Triang
EMU/DMU/PULLMAN replacement pairs of finer driving wheels, per axle with
gears, £2.95' Page 36a middle column, about 3/4 of the way down the
list.
I would be interested in a review hould you take this route.
Jonathan
--
Jonathan Hall
Thames Ditton
My railway website is at http://www.jonhall.mcmail.com/Railways.htm
David
wrote:
>In the October issue of Railway Modeller, Model Spares advertise 'Triang
>EMU/DMU/PULLMAN replacement pairs of finer driving wheels, per axle with
>gears, £2.95' Page 36a middle column, about 3/4 of the way down the
>list.
Great! This is just what I'm looking for ... rather embarassing that I
hadn't seen the advert myself ;)
David
Stuart Pearce
>
>In the October issue of Railway Modeller, Model Spares advertise 'Triang
>EMU/DMU/PULLMAN replacement pairs of finer driving wheels, per axle with
>gears, £2.95' Page 36a middle column, about 3/4 of the way down the
>list.
>
>
Another choice is Ultrascale, who make replacement wheelsets for all the
Tri-ang motor bogies.
Their website is at
http://www.ultrascale.co.uk/ultrascale.htm
Their prices are, however, much higher than the 'Model Spares' option quoted
above.
Stuart
Christopher A. Lee
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Stuart Pearce wrote:
> Another choice is Ultrascale, who make replacement wheelsets for all the
> Tri-ang motor bogies.
>
> Their website is at
>
> http://www.ultrascale.co.uk/ultrascale.htm
>
> Their prices are, however, much higher than the 'Model Spares' option quoted
> above.
But very high quality. I used their wheels in my 00 days.
Bill Campbell
writes
>I have a number of sturdy/robust MTK models driven by Triang Hornby
>power bogies - both DMU & Hymek. I need to rewheel them to go through
>Peco Streamline turnouts.
>
>Does anyone know of a source of ready-geared wheels & axles? ...or am
>I going to have to make them up myself?
>
>
>David
>
>
You don't - just adjust the back-to-back measurement!
Works fine.
--
Bill Campbell
Anthony New
With respect, that depends on both the models concerned and the track
used. Triang/Hornby changed the depth of their flanges at least twice
over the decades, and though most from the 1960's onward will cope with
Peco code-100 track when back-to-back measurements are adjusted (not
easy on some), many aren't really happy with code-70 track and scale
clearances.
I'm a great fan of Triang stuff, but let's be blunt about it - some of
the items at least were really toys and some were built down to a price;
much of the rolling stock from the 1970's and 1980's came fitted with
one-piece plastic wheelsets having square axles that often weren't
straight to begin with and didn't noticeably straighten themselves over
time. At least these are relatively easily changed for others more
suitable for finescale 00 track (if you don't consider that to be an
oxymoron <g>).
And let us not forget also that some people take exception to tyre
treads a scale foot or two wide. Despite my earlier comments, I concede
there is on occasion good reason to want to change wheelsets when the
originals cannot be adjusted or are otherwise unsuitable.
Anthony.
David
Modelspares option on Monday and they arrived Tuesday. Swapped the
wheels that evening and found they do exactly what I wanted.
Everything runs so well that I'll get on and finish my last kit -
before 'Lim-achmann-by' brings out an r-t-r ;)
David