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fusi...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/18/98
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Hello

I've just started modelling 7mm 0-9 narrow gauge and I know of the excellent
Black Dog Mining Company accessories, but looking back at my Narrow Gauge
South West program I see that a company called Blackberry Way and Bramble
Line are listed but there's no address or phone number. Does anyone know
where I can contact them?

Does anyone know of any other companies who produce 0-9 equipment?

Allan Jones

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Nigelshoo

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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In article <981018142945....@mail.clara.net>, Arthur Budd
<bu...@clara.net> writes:

>>Hello
>>
>>I've just started modelling 7mm 0-9 narrow gauge and I know of the excellent
>>Black Dog Mining Company accessories, but looking back at my Narrow Gauge
>>South West program I see that a company called Blackberry Way and Bramble
>>Line are listed but there's no address or phone number. Does anyone know
>>where I can contact them?
>>
>>Does anyone know of any other companies who produce 0-9 equipment?
>>
>>Allan Jones
>
>

>Hi Allan
>
>Blackberry Way Models who supply kits under both their own and the Bramble
>Line
>brand are at:
>
>38 Leopold Avenue
>Handsworth Wood
>Birmingham
>B20 1ES
>
>A review of the Bramble Line wagon kits is in Narrow Lines no. 104 and an
>article about building a Blackberry Way diesel loco is in N.L. no. 111.
>
>Regards
>
>Arthur Budd
>
>

Just an aside...
I am quite new to "proper" railway modelling, only previous experience being
with Hornby Dublo "train set" level back when 2-rail was new. I am a bit
confused with the profusion of scale designations, especially in my interest
area of narrow gauge modelling. For example, in the above, I understand what
7mm narrow is, but what is 0-9? Other 'scales' I don't understand include 00n3
and H0n3 and other similar sounding names; and another with the number 12 (?)
in it - can't remember the full designation. I know what EM is, but what is S?

Any guidance anyone. Is there a definitive list available anywhere?

Cheers all

Nigel

Robert Pearce

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 Nigelshoo informed uk.rec.models.rail that :

>Just an aside...
>I am quite new to "proper" railway modelling, only previous experience being
>with Hornby Dublo "train set" level back when 2-rail was new. I am a bit
>confused with the profusion of scale designations, especially in my interest
>area of narrow gauge modelling. For example, in the above, I understand what
>7mm narrow is, but what is 0-9? Other 'scales' I don't understand include 00n3
>and H0n3 and other similar sounding names; and another with the number 12 (?)
>in it - can't remember the full designation. I know what EM is, but what is S?

Ok, here goes nothing....

OO-9 (not O-9 btw) is narrow gauge in OO "scale" (4mm to the foot) on
9mm gauge (smae as N-gauge standard track) giving 2ft 3in gauge

Similarly O-16.5 is narrow gauge in O on HO gauge track (2ft 4in gauge)

OOn3 is 3 foot gauge modelled in OO scale, 1:76
HOn3 the same but 1:87

S gauge (according to Freezer) is 1:64 scale, 3/16in to the foot. He
describes it as "strictly for the scratchbuilder"
--
Rob Pearce
Chief Engineer of the Sump, Laisse and Huneausware Railway

Visit my web site at http://www.bdt-home.demon.co.uk/

jde...@acslink.net.au

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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> Ok, here goes nothing....
>
> OO-9 (not O-9 btw) is narrow gauge in OO "scale" (4mm to the foot) on
> 9mm gauge (smae as N-gauge standard track) giving 2ft 3in gauge

HOn30 (or in Europe, HOe) is 1:87 on the same 9mm track, giving 2ft 6in gauge.

> Similarly O-16.5 is narrow gauge in O on HO gauge track (2ft 4in gauge)
>
> OOn3 is 3 foot gauge modelled in OO scale, 1:76
> HOn3 the same but 1:87

In this case, OOn3 and HOn3 are not the same. OOn3 uses 12mm track, while
HOn3 uses 10.5mm track gauge. The HO designation for 12mm gauge track is HOm
(for metre) in Europe, or HOn42 (HOn3 1/2) in Australia. It equates to 3ft
5in or 1044mm - not too far off either metre gauge or Cape gauge 3ft 6in.

> S gauge (according to Freezer) is 1:64 scale, 3/16in to the foot. He
> describes it as "strictly for the scratchbuilder"

Cheers...JD
--

John Dennis
Home of the Dutton Bay Tramway
http://www.acslink.net.au/~jdennis/dbt.html

Gareth Alun Evans

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Robert Pearce wrote in message ...

>OO-9 (not O-9 btw) is narrow gauge in OO "scale" (4mm to the foot) on


O-9 is narrow gauge in O "scale" (7mm to the foot) on 9mm
(n gauge) track, simulating the many British 15" gauge railways.


ABantock

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Hey, just to add to your confusion what about 1/32 scale NG on 16.5mm gauge!

Want to know more? Try:

http://members.aol.com/abantock/fs32ngmr/home.html

Shameless plug for website alert!


Andrew J Bantock

Robert Pearce

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 informed uk.rec.models.rail that :
(I wrote)

>> OOn3 is 3 foot gauge modelled in OO scale, 1:76
>> HOn3 the same but 1:87
>
>In this case, OOn3 and HOn3 are not the same. OOn3 uses 12mm track, while
>HOn3 uses 10.5mm track gauge.

Yes, but I never said they used the same track. I said they modelled the
same real gauge. Quick use of a calculator will show that our two
statements agree.

>The HO designation for 12mm gauge track is HOm
>(for metre) in Europe, or HOn42 (HOn3 1/2) in Australia. It equates to 3ft
>5in or 1044mm - not too far off either metre gauge or Cape gauge 3ft 6in.

--

jde...@acslink.net.au

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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In article <QXQhVCAi...@bdt-home.demon.co.uk>,

Robert Pearce <reply...@bdt-home.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 informed uk.rec.models.rail that :
> (I wrote)
> >> OOn3 is 3 foot gauge modelled in OO scale, 1:76
> >> HOn3 the same but 1:87
> >
> >In this case, OOn3 and HOn3 are not the same. OOn3 uses 12mm track, while
> >HOn3 uses 10.5mm track gauge.
>
> Yes, but I never said they used the same track. I said they modelled the
> same real gauge. Quick use of a calculator will show that our two
> statements agree.

Absolutely. I was simply stating that whereas OO9 and HOn30 share the same
modelled gauge of 9mm, OOn3 and HOn3 don't. Just to avoid confusion for a
neophyte :-) Maybe we have used the word "same" in too many places.

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