Leylandii for burning?
John L
A bit late to ask because I've just finished sawing up about half a ton!
However there is another ton to come.
What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
I'm not intending using it until next winter.
Cheers
John
nm...@cam.ac.uk
John L <lal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>A bit late to ask because I've just finished sawing up about half a ton!
>However there is another ton to come.
>
>What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
Open fire - awful - it spits, like most conifers.
Wood burner - no problem.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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huge high flames,
not very eco though.
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Andy Dingley
> What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
Great, possibly too great. It's very resinous, so it burns like
crazy. Make sure you're capable of burning it safely. If you've
burning logs, dry them a year first, then do it in something with a
lid. They can go off like a grenade when green.
Efficient burning needs a Norwegian box stove, with enough secondary
combustion chamber to cope with burning the producer gas from
conifers. It's also likely to coat your flue with tars and creosote.
NT
if its a few inches across, better option:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Leylandii_Wood
NT
Andrew Gabriel
A friend burned a very large pile of Leylandii clippings.
Brilliant bonfire, followed by a sodding great insurance
claim to have various neighbours' cars repainted, including
one brand new one. The ash destroys modern car paintwork.
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Clint Sharp
<dd52953c-e596-4bec...@q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Andy
Dingley <din...@codesmiths.com> writes
>Efficient burning needs a Norwegian box stove, with enough secondary
>combustion chamber to cope with burning the producer gas from
>conifers. It's also likely to coat your flue with tars and creosote.
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Christina Websell
"John L" <lal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Absolutely not. It's full of resin or some sort of stuff that spits like
crazy which is dangerous in an open fire.
I have a woodburner and I don't even use conifer wood in that - it can spit
out of the dampers on the front even if open a half inch and set the carpet
on fire whilst you are out of the room for a few minutes.
So my advice is don't use it for fuel in your house.
The foliage makes a good starter for a bonfire even when green but stand
well back if you don't want to lose your eyebrows..
Tina
Tina
Bill Grey
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Getting the green stuff off theboughs is a real pain - hardly worth the
effort for theamount of useable timber available. The green fronds burn
ferociously and care is needed. As for the logs, can't say as I've never
used them for house heating. On a garden fire the logs do not burn very
well at all.
Bill
Steve Firth
> What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
Fine for wood burner as others have said.
Christina Websell
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> John L <lal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
>
> Fine for wood burner as others have said.
I would say be very careful, I would not describe it as "fine" for a
woodburner if you have a sliding damper on the front of your stove. It will
spit out of it across the room, in my experience.
I tried conifer wood once, I'm glad I was not out for a few hours, it
sparked out from the tiny hole in the damper and set my carpet on fire when
I was upstairs. Never again.
Tina
Steve Firth
> I would say be very careful, I would not describe it as "fine" for a
> woodburner if you have a sliding damper on the front of your stove. It will
> spit out of it across the room, in my experience.
I burn leylandii in a wood burner without problems. The woodburner has a
sliding damper on the front. Since the damper is within an anclosure
that is made of the same steel as the woodburner it is hard to see how
it could be "spit out of it across the room".
> I tried conifer wood once, I'm glad I was not out for a few hours, it
> sparked out from the tiny hole in the damper and set my carpet on fire when
> I was upstairs. Never again.
Yew is a conifer.
Gib Bogle
> Christina Websell <ti...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I would say be very careful, I would not describe it as "fine" for a
>> woodburner if you have a sliding damper on the front of your stove. It will
>> spit out of it across the room, in my experience.
>
> I burn leylandii in a wood burner without problems. The woodburner has a
> sliding damper on the front. Since the damper is within an anclosure
> that is made of the same steel as the woodburner it is hard to see how
> it could be "spit out of it across the room".
"spit out of it" is not the same as "spit it out"
It's the burning wood that spits out.
The Natural Philosopher
They do when dry, I once burned a stump out that way.,
After a couple of years.
The key is that conifers are nowt special, except the sap contains tars
and resins that will in combinatiuo9n with water, spit like fuck and
carry tars up in the smoke. Once dry, without the water, they burn just
fine.
after all, ordinary constructin timber is coniferous.
> Bill
>
>
The Natural Philosopher
I suppose it might be...at that.
I burn lots of coniferous stuff. builidng wopod scraps, douglas fir,
scots pine, odd bits of spruce. once dry its not the worst spitter in
the world by a long chalk. Willow and polar just as bad if not worse.
bobharvey
wrote:
> > What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
> geat for bonfires, even when freshly cut,
I'll tell you a tale about that.
I felled 6 leylandii whilst on leave once. The day I was supposed to
be rejoining the ship I spent the morning burning the last of the
branches. I was in a hurry, and threw a big pile on the fire, from
which the volatiles were obviously evaporating. I then threw a second
bundle on, which disturbed the equilibrium and caused the vapour to
ignite. There was a huge fireball - a flash burn - that lasted a
second or so, and when it was over my glasses were irretrevabley
frosted and all my hair and beard had burned off. I was otherwise
unharmed, although the smell of burning hair inside my nose persisted
for a week.
I had to go straight to the ship with a slightly pink face and no hair
of any sort.
tin...@isbd.co.uk
seasoned. All the complaints about it posted here indicate that it
hasn't been dried well enough. We have been felling a row of *big*
Leylandii at our house over the past ten years and burning them on our
wood burner with no problems. They need to be stored for a good
twelve months before burning though.
Leylandii is *much* better than pine and other similar softwood for
burning, although it is technically a softwood it doesn't really
behave like one, it's much denser and tougher.
--
Chris Green
tin...@isbd.co.uk
Only if it's not properly dried before burning and that applies to
*any* wood you burn. Tar/creosote is produced by burning wood of *any*
sort with high water content.
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Muddymike
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Like all wood Leylandi needs seasoning well before burning. I try
to never burn anything under two years old, and have burned a lot
of Leylandi over the years. It's not good firewood, but hey when
its free I'll burn it. If you need the damper far enough open
that sparks can fly out then that's a sure sign that the wood
inside is not ready to be burnt. Another sure sign that you are
burning wood too early is when the glass in the door tars up. I
have often been asked how we clean the glass in ours and the
answer is that we don't. It stays clear when burning well
seasoned wood.
See
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Housechanges/Muddymike.10666
Mike
Andy Dingley
> There was a huge fireball - a flash burn -
I posted the E-type Jag story ages ago...
Pete
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> I burn lots of coniferous stuff. builidng wopod scraps, douglas fir, scots
> pine, odd bits of spruce. once dry its not the worst spitter in the world
> by a long chalk. Willow and polar just as bad if not worse.
Yes - I have had trouble with polar as well.
Not a lot of heat comes out in my experience (:-(
Regards
Pete (:-)
Pete
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> Despite GW?
There is quite a bit of hot air talked in gardeners world - I'll grant you
!
Pete
Rusty Hinge
Fine. Most cypress is, though some can spit. I've never had that problem
with Leyland cypress though.
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Rusty Hinge
Carbon neutral. If you discount the stored carbon in the roots, that is.
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Rusty Hinge
That'll teach you not to garden au naturelle...
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Rusty Hinge
Only if you burn the wood green.
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Rusty Hinge
> "John L" <lal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Cross-posted to DIY and to Gardening:
>>
>> A bit late to ask because I've just finished sawing up about half a ton!
>> However there is another ton to come.
>>
>> What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
>>
>> I'm not intending using it until next winter.
>>
>
> Absolutely not.
Give another year, under some sort of cover.
> It's full of resin or some sort of stuff that spits like
> crazy which is dangerous in an open fire.
Only when green, and IME,green Leylandii doesn't spit much anyway.
> I have a woodburner and I don't even use conifer wood in that - it can spit
> out of the dampers on the front even if open a half inch and set the carpet
> on fire whilst you are out of the room for a few minutes.
> So my advice is don't use it for fuel in your house.
My house is heated almost exclusively with wood fires, and I have never
experienced those problems.
> The foliage makes a good starter for a bonfire even when green but stand
> well back if you don't want to lose your eyebrows..
--
Rusty
Rusty Hinge
> Leylandii is *much* better than pine and other similar softwood for
> burning, although it is technically a softwood it doesn't really
> behave like one, it's much denser and tougher.
Yes indeed - consider that balsa is technically a hardwood,,,
--
Rusty
Rusty Hinge
> Yew is a conifer.
And burns like asbestos...
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Muddymike
"Rusty Hinge" <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote in message
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I have a 10ft long 15 to 20 inch diameter yew trunk I scavenged
from the woods next door when they were cleared last year.
Still debating whether to cut it up for logs or offer it to a
wood turner. Yew does make for a very good fire.
Mike
Andy Dingley
> I have a 10ft long 15 to 20 inch diameter yew trunk I scavenged
> from the woods next door when they were cleared last year.
> Still debating whether to cut it up for logs or offer it to a
> wood turner. Yew does make for a very good fire.
If it's that size, don't waste it on turning but use it for cabinetry.
It's a bit skinny, but as it's yew there's still a market for it.
Tim Streater
Nah. The roots decay and give off the same CO2 as if you burnt them.
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Rusty Hinge
> On 29/01/2010 14:49, Rusty Hinge wrote:
>> Carbon neutral. If you discount the stored carbon in the roots, that is.
>
> Nah. The roots decay and give off the same CO2 as if you burnt them.
Takes a long time. Meantime, several generations of privet have come and
gone.
Forestry, with the mature timber used and the stumps left in are a great
combination for absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and storing it.
True, the stumps and roots rot, releasing some of the farandaway even
<Shed> worserer </Shed> glasshouse (non-green) gas, methinks, methane.
TAAAW, I don't send paper for recycling - mature conifers are largely
carbon neutral, and sometimes worse. Young conifers OTOH, absorb copious
quantities of carbon dioxide as they grow. So, paper is turned into
fuel, which is, again, carbon neutral, if you discount the energy which
went into its manufacture.
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Rusty
Rusty Hinge
IME it makes for rather cold comfort. I'd give it to me, if I were you -
or sell it.
A piece of yew that size is worth rather a lot.
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Rusty
Christina Websell
> Christina Websell <ti...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I would say be very careful, I would not describe it as "fine" for a
>> woodburner if you have a sliding damper on the front of your stove. It
>> will
>> spit out of it across the room, in my experience.
>
> I burn leylandii in a wood burner without problems. The woodburner has a
> sliding damper on the front. Since the damper is within an anclosure
> that is made of the same steel as the woodburner it is hard to see how
> it could be "spit out of it across the room".
My dampers do not have an enclosure so if they are open they are open to the
room, if you see what I mean: therefore if I have spitting wood, it can and
does come out of the damper.
>
>> I tried conifer wood once, I'm glad I was not out for a few hours, it
>> sparked out from the tiny hole in the damper and set my carpet on fire
>> when
>> I was upstairs. Never again.
>
> Yew is a conifer.
OK. Point taken. I should have phrased it better.
Far be it from me to put anyone off burning leylandii if they want to, I
just thought I'd share my experience of it so the OP could make an informed
decision.
Tina
Christina Websell
"Muddymike" <MikeR...@mattishall.org.uk> wrote in message
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sell it. You can use the money to buy far more wood for burning than you
would get from the yew.
Tina
Muddymike
"Christina Websell" <ti...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
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Anyone want to buy a yew trunk ?
I looked on Ebay and woodturning blanks just 2 inched thick of
the diameter I have are selling for several pounds!!! But what
makes for a "woodturning blank" ?
Mike
Steve Firth
> Yew is so slow growing
Tell that to the yew tree that has grown in my garden over the last five
years.
The Natural Philosopher
if you get it planked, its worth a fair bit. If split already, burn it.
> Mike
>
>
Andy Dingley
> Anyone want to buy a yew trunk ?
Yes, where are you, and have you got photos?
Rod
Didn't MH Thatcher have a shorter version?
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Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Rod <poly...@ntlworld.com> saying
something like:
>So maybe the leylandii's not for burning, but the yew is for turning?
Yew! Coat, now.
>Didn't MH Thatcher have a shorter version?
She's been out of her tree for years.
Rusty Hinge
For several of ponds, not a very big bit. Enough to make a small bowl or
big cup, perhaps.
Nah, you know you want me to have it for making a gunstock, and
turning/carving the rest, don't you?
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Rusty
Rusty Hinge
Burn the witch?
D&RFC
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Muddymike
"Rod" <poly...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> On 29/01/2010 20:14, Muddymike wrote:
>> "Christina Websell"<ti...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> message news:7sgs47...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>> position I would sell it. You can use the money to buy far
>>> more wood for burning than you would get from the yew.
>>>
>>
>> Anyone want to buy a yew trunk ?
>>
>> I looked on Ebay and woodturning blanks just 2 inched thick of
>> the diameter I have are selling for several pounds!!! But what
>> makes for a "woodturning blank" ?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
> So maybe the leylandii's not for burning, but the yew is for
> turning? Didn't MH Thatcher have a shorter version?
Te he.
Mike
Muddymike
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I am in North Yorkshire, no photos at present but can do
tomorrow.
Mike
alan.holmes
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> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:41:36 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:39:43 +0000 (GMT), nm...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
>>
>>>In article
>>><lalaw44-29D2CA...@surfnet-nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.196.x.invalid>,
>>>John L <lal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>A bit late to ask because I've just finished sawing up about half a ton!
>>>>However there is another ton to come.
>>>>
>>>>What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
>>>
>>>
>>>Wood burner - no problem.
>>
>>In the film Ripley's Game there is a demo of how well they burn in situ.
>
> We burn Leylandii logs regularly on an open fire. Doesn't burn as well
> as hardwood, but it does burn. Never had a problem with spitting, in
> fact I would say it doesn't spit and I'm surprised to hear others say
> it does, but ours is well dried under cover, like at least 6 months.
Can we use walnut on a fire indoors?
SWMBO seems to think it is ot a good idea.
Alan
>
> --
>
> Chris
>
> Gardening in West Cornwall overlooking the sea.
> Mild, but very exposed to salt gales
>
> E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net
Rusty Hinge
> "Chris Hogg" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:41:36 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:39:43 +0000 (GMT), nm...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article
>>>> <lalaw44-29D2CA...@surfnet-nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.196.x.invalid>,
>>>> John L <lal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> A bit late to ask because I've just finished sawing up about half a ton!
>>>>> However there is another ton to come.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's leylandii like as a fuel (open fire, and/or wood burner)?
>>>> Open fire - awful - it spits, like most conifers.
>>>>
>>>> Wood burner - no problem.
>>> In the film Ripley's Game there is a demo of how well they burn in situ.
>> We burn Leylandii logs regularly on an open fire. Doesn't burn as well
>> as hardwood, but it does burn. Never had a problem with spitting, in
>> fact I would say it doesn't spit and I'm surprised to hear others say
>> it does, but ours is well dried under cover, like at least 6 months.
>
> Can we use walnut on a fire indoors?
>
> SWMBO seems to think it is ot a good idea.
It burns, but I'm told, not too well.
Much better used for carving or woodturning. English walnut is OK for
rifle stocks, but not, a gunsmith tells me, for shotgun stocks.
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nm...@cam.ac.uk
Rusty Hinge <rusty...@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>alan.holmes wrote:
>>
>> Can we use walnut on a fire indoors?
>>
>> SWMBO seems to think it is ot a good idea.
>
>It burns, but I'm told, not too well.
>
>Much better used for carving or woodturning. English walnut is OK for
>rifle stocks, but not, a gunsmith tells me, for shotgun stocks.
It burns perfectly well. You need heartwood for woodwork, and I
have used both a rotten walnut and (large) prunings for firewood.
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
K
>
>
>Can we use walnut on a fire indoors?
Are you getting rid of your tree? It's what I always think of whenever I
think of you ;-)
>
>SWMBO seems to think it is ot a good idea.
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