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Janet Baraclough
from "Barry and Iris McCanna" <beti.m...@wanadoo.fr> contains
these words:
> <adult...@adultsonly.org.uk> wrote a message I won't quote
> Sent to SpamCop
> Iris McCanna
Hi Iris. This is the second time the offensive ng spam issue has
been raised this week. Like others, I have a newsreader which
automatically deletes it. By re-quoting the text you succeeded where
the spammer failed, and sent it to those of us who had not previously
seen it. For those who had already seen it,you also gave the spammer
double coverage of his sex advert.
Another time could you please edit such messages of yours in a way
which avoids compounding the spammer's work? It would be much appreciated.
Janet
wallace.gromit
Janet Baraclough <janet.a...@zzzetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:200104121...@zzzetnet.co.uk...
>
> Another time could you please edit such messages of yours in a way
> which avoids compounding the spammer's work? It would be much appreciated.
>
Just an observation, and no offence intended, but by replying directly
without editing the offending url out, you've just done exactly the same.
The search robots pick up on urls posted in newsgroups, so PLEASE if you're
posting that you've reported the spammer to SpamCop or whoever, SNIP THE
URL!
Reported to SpamCop also. Have a nice day everyone.
Mike
David Rance
On 12 Apr 2001, Janet Baraclough wrote:
JB> The message <9b4idj$bc5$1...@wanadoo.fr>
JB> from "Barry and Iris McCanna" <beti.m...@wanadoo.fr> contains
JB> these words:
>> <adultsonly@**********.org.uk> wrote a message I won't quote
>> Sent to SpamCop
>> Iris McCanna
JB> Hi Iris. This is the second time the offensive ng spam issue has
JB> been raised this week. Like others, I have a newsreader which
JB> automatically deletes it.
I think I'd rather have spam than not be able to send to people using
certain ISPs. I'm having difficulty in sending e-mail via Demon to people
using skynet.be because they are registered with an organisation called
orbs.com. They bounce all e-mails coming from ISPs that are not registered
with Orbs and have a history of propagating spam. Since some of these are
business e-mails I get rather cross!
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Steve Heaven
>
> I think I'd rather have spam than not be able to send to people using
> certain ISPs. I'm having difficulty in sending e-mail via Demon to people
> using skynet.be because they are registered with an organisation called
> orbs.com. They bounce all e-mails coming from ISPs that are not registered
> with Orbs and have a history of propagating spam. Since some of these are
> business e-mails I get rather cross!
As someone who administers an ISPs mail system I can say that the
ORBS system is a wonderfully helpful tool, which is run for the
benifit of the Internet community for no profit.
Put pressure on your business contacts to either pressure their ISPs
to act responsibly or change ISP. If those ISPs who dont take
spamming seriously start losing business then maybe they will act.
Steve
--
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Phone: 01454 854413
Fax: 01454 854412
http://www.thornet.co.uk
David Simpson
<ad...@thornet.co.uk> writes
>David Rance wrote:
>>
>> I think I'd rather have spam than not be able to send to people using
>> certain ISPs. I'm having difficulty in sending e-mail via Demon to people
>> using skynet.be because they are registered with an organisation called
>> orbs.com. They bounce all e-mails coming from ISPs that are not registered
>> with Orbs and have a history of propagating spam. Since some of these are
>> business e-mails I get rather cross!
>
>As someone who administers an ISPs mail system I can say that the
>ORBS system is a wonderfully helpful tool, which is run for the
>benifit of the Internet community for no profit.
>Put pressure on your business contacts to either pressure their ISPs
>to act responsibly or change ISP. If those ISPs who dont take
>spamming seriously start losing business then maybe they will act.
>
>Steve
>
ORBS?, if its the latter why should they? there seem to be an increasing
number of ISP's wanting to provide an extra 'service' for the community
as a whole, surely the result of that is a fragmented system that will
consist of lots of self serving intranets.
--
David Simpson
Barry and Iris McCanna
Janet,
If by reporting this pornographic spam I gave you offence, then I am sorry.
I was anxious to ensure that they were reported asap. As it happens it was
new porn spam and SpamCop will deal with them.
To me it is far more important to get rid of these people than my small
error or accidentally repeating their message.
It seems a great pity that you have to criticise someone who, yes made a
mistake, but is merely trying to do good in the long run.
Iris
Janet Baraclough
> If by reporting this pornographic spam I gave you offence, then I am sorry.
> I was anxious to ensure that they were reported asap.
Of course; nobody disputes that.I was discussing your follow up to urg.
> To me it is far more important to get rid of these people than my small
> error or accidentally repeating their message.
An "I've reported this" message to urg plays what role in getting
rid of them ?
> It seems a great pity that you have to criticise someone who, yes made a
> mistake, but is merely trying to do good in the long run.
Sauce for the goose, Iris. I did exactly the same as you; took
steps to prevent repetition of a kind of post which is unwelcome to
myself and others. I don't think anyone could have construed my
courteous explanation and request as criticism of you? Anyone can
make a mistake and learn from it; as I did in the same thread. I was
not in the least offended to have my own quoting mistake corrected.
Too bad about losing the urg brownie badge for public service, innit :~}
Janet.
> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.a...@zzzetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:200104121...@zzzetnet.co.uk...
> > Hi Iris. This is the second time the offensive ng spam issue has
Mike Crowe
<janet.a...@zzzetnet.co.uk> writes
>
> Too bad about losing the urg brownie badge for public service, innit :~}
>
> Janet.
>
So we only post to gain Brownie Points do we?
What a sad world when we are unable to do 'something for nothing'.
Brownies, you can have the points for the posting I gave about the
Gardeners Hymn. I thought it might interest someone.
Mike
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"Carpe Diem" My old School Motto. Seize the opportunity.
I have. Will you? Join a winning team.
Make your life richer in more ways than one.
eMail me for details.
BAC
Mike Crowe wrote in message ...
>In article <200104131...@zzzetnet.co.uk>, Janet Baraclough
><janet.a...@zzzetnet.co.uk> writes
>
>>
>> Too bad about losing the urg brownie badge for public service, innit :~}
>>
>> Janet.
>>
>So we only post to gain Brownie Points do we?
>
>What a sad world when we are unable to do 'something for nothing'.
>
>Brownies, you can have the points for the posting I gave about the
>Gardeners Hymn. I thought it might interest someone.
>
Chill out, please, folks - it ain't worth falling out over.
Mike Crowe
<cass...@dircon.co.uk> writes
>
>
>Chill out, please, folks - it ain't worth falling out over.
>
>
Janet Baraclough
from Mike Crowe <mi...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> So we only post to gain Brownie Points do we?
That was a dry aside to Iris, after we had both tried to do the
same thing and missed. I can't answer for what you hope to gain from
your posts.
> What a sad world when we are unable to do 'something for nothing'.
Only a real loser would end that sermon with a sig canvassing for
his own financial advantage, btw.
Janet.
Mike Crowe
>his own financial advantage, btw.
>
'Make your life richer'
"YOUR", please read and understand if you are going to be picky.
My life is rich enough thank you.
Kind regards.
BAC
Mike Crowe wrote in message <6M$sdpA1m...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk>...
>In article <muGB6.19$mr4....@news.dircon.co.uk>, BAC
><cass...@dircon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>
>>Chill out, please, folks - it ain't worth falling out over.
>>
>>
>Chilling out with the St Matthew passion on Radio 3 :-)))
>
That's one of my favourites, too.
Mike Crowe
<cass...@dircon.co.uk> writes
>
>>>
>>Chilling out with the St Matthew passion on Radio 3 :-)))
>>
>
>
>That's one of my favourites, too.
>
>
'What' can follow it?
Nothing!!
Janet Baraclough
from Mike Crowe <mi...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> "YOUR", please read and understand if you are going to be picky.
Pick? A shovel would be more appropriate.
So, your sig is nothing to do with trying to recruit more team mates
and earn more money for yourself for doing so?
Janet
su3971
but (most) of the posts are quite amusing, if not informative.
Jane
(any anyway, I hate cross words!)news:200104140...@zzzetnet.co.uk...
David Rance
On 13 Apr 2001, David Simpson wrote:
DS> Are we saying that Demon propagate spam or just haven't registered
DS> with ORBS?, if its the latter why should they? there seem to be an
DS> increasing number of ISP's wanting to provide an extra 'service' for
DS> the community as a whole, surely the result of that is a fragmented
DS> system that will consist of lots of self serving intranets. --
They haven't registered with Orbs and every time someone complains about
spam which originated through a Demon server then the server in question is
blacklisted with Orbs. Seems that Demon have just let the situation build
up until most of their servers were blacklisted. This means that innocent
people like me can't get my e-mails through to Orbs-registered ISPs.
For non-techie people like myself it took a determined effort on my part to
find out just what was happening since Demon wouldn't admit to anything
being wrong. Indeed, they told me to take it up with Skynet.be - but didn't
give me an address to write to and the phone number they gave me was wrong.
I agree with you when you ask why they should register. But the fact
remains that Orbs is there to cut down on spam and Demon have to go along
with it or their customers run the risk of having their e-mails bounced
back. I must say that the way Demon have handled this problem makes them go
down in my estimation. Now that I've reported which servers were
blacklisted I seem to be able to get my mails through. But I resent the
amount of time I've had to spend on it finding out what was wrong.
David Rance
On 13 Apr 2001, Barry and Iris McCanna wrote:
BaIM> If by reporting this pornographic spam I gave you offence, then I am
BaIM> sorry. I was anxious to ensure that they were reported asap. As it
BaIM> happens it was new porn spam and SpamCop will deal with them.
Apparently by blacklisting the server rather than doing anything to the
anonymous person who sent the spam in the first place!
David Rance
On 13 Apr 2001, Steve Heaven wrote:
>> I think I'd rather have spam than not be able to send to people
>> using certain ISPs. I'm having difficulty in sending e-mail via
>> Demon to people using skynet.be because they are registered with
>> an organisation called orbs.com. They bounce all e-mails coming
>> from ISPs that are not registered with Orbs and have a history of
>> propagating spam. Since some of these are business e-mails I get
>> rather cross!
SH> As someone who administers an ISPs mail system I can say that the
SH> ORBS system is a wonderfully helpful tool, which is run for the
SH> benifit of the Internet community for no profit.
SH> Put pressure on your business contacts to either pressure their ISPs
SH> to act responsibly or change ISP. If those ISPs who dont take
SH> spamming seriously start losing business then maybe they will act.
Reply in e-mail. Suffice it to say here that the fault appears to have lain
with Demon. Most of their servers seem to have been on the Orbs blacklist
during the last couple of weeks or so but they wouldn't admit it to me.
That's why I was doing a passable imitation of the Ouslem bird (ever seen
one, Andy?) trying to find out just *why* my mails were being bounced back
from Skynet!
Jenny Cockshull
"su3971" <su3...@eclipse.co.uk> wrote
> Pleeeeese can we get back to gardening subjects???? I'm only a
'lurker'
> but (most) of the posts are quite amusing, if not informative.
> Jane
> (any anyway, I hate cross words!)
We have these flair up in URG now and then Jane !
Bit like sun spots, they come and go........don't let it put you off,
they'll soon be able to diffuse their energy soon by getting out in
the garden as soon as the weather warms up :~)))
Jenny
Mike Crowe
<janet.a...@zzzetnet.co.uk> writes
It would appear that you too know nothing of MLM when it is applied with
'Team Effort'. Where it is in my interest, yes, to see that YOUR
earnings are far greater and far more successful than what I get out of
it. In fact there is one element of the Team Work where we forsake our
gain for the benefit of the whole team. But you wouldn't want to
understand that would you?
Never mind, your loss not mine :-(
Kay Easton
<beti.m...@wanadoo.fr> writes
>
>"Janet Baraclough" <janet.a...@zzzetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:200104121...@zzzetnet.co.uk...
>> been raised this week. Like others, I have a newsreader which
>> automatically deletes it. By re-quoting the text you succeeded where
>> the spammer failed, and sent it to those of us who had not previously
>> seen it. For those who had already seen it,you also gave the spammer
>> double coverage of his sex advert.
>>
>> Another time could you please edit such messages of yours in a way
>> which avoids compounding the spammer's work? It would be much appreciated.
>>
>
>Janet,
>
>If by reporting this pornographic spam I gave you offence, then I am sorry.
>I was anxious to ensure that they were reported asap. As it happens it was
>new porn spam and SpamCop will deal with them.
>To me it is far more important to get rid of these people than my small
>error or accidentally repeating their message.
>It seems a great pity that you have to criticise someone who, yes made a
>mistake, but is merely trying to do good in the long run.
>
to get the spam stopped you had inadvertantly broadcast it to some of us
who had been free of it the first time around - how do we learn from
mistakes if no-one points them out?
Keep up the good work!
--
Kay Easton
Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/
Janet Baraclough
> "su3971" <su3...@eclipse.co.uk> wrote
> > Pleeeeese can we get back to gardening subjects???? I'm only a
> 'lurker'
> > but (most) of the posts are quite amusing, if not informative.
> > Jane
"We" ??? Sorry, lurker, the contributing posters are not at your
beck and call.You chose to read this thread beyond the first post; if
it isn't to your taste, why not choose one about gardening ?
Janet.
Traci Good
personal spam visit www.spamcop.net its a free service that works out where
your spam has come from and sends out a report / complaint on your behalf. I
have been using it for a few months now and it seems to work.
*runs and hides so the heated debate may resume*
Traci
--
You miss 100% of the shots you never take
remove your pants to reply to this posting
--
Ade
you can use to lay a patio / garden path on?? :-))
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