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MallowKat

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Mar 19, 2004, 9:01:15 AM3/19/04
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My mother has seen a blue daisy like flower with a greeny yellow centre growing
a few inches tall in Yorkshire. Can anyone tell me what it might be?
Thanks

Spider

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Mar 19, 2004, 11:59:09 AM3/19/04
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MallowKat <mall...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Where did she see it - in the wild .. in a garden ? Any information on
local habitat? .. leaves?
Spider


Kay Easton

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Mar 19, 2004, 12:08:59 PM3/19/04
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In article <20040319090115...@mb-m16.aol.com>, MallowKat
<mall...@aol.com> writes

>My mother has seen a blue daisy like flower with a greeny yellow centre growing
>a few inches tall in Yorkshire. Can anyone tell me what it might be?

Anemone blanda?

--
Kay Easton

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MallowKat

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Mar 19, 2004, 2:44:54 PM3/19/04
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It was growing in a hotel garden.

She said she thought it had anemone type leaves! So, I think you might be
right, Kay. However, the googled images seem rather purpley-blue, and she said
it was a clear blue.

Thankyou for the help :o) I will pass the info on.

Cereus-validus

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Mar 19, 2004, 3:21:09 PM3/19/04
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Felicia bergeriana

http://www.anniesannuals.com/signs/d%20-%20g/felicia_bergeriana_CS.htm


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Cereus-validus

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Mar 19, 2004, 3:22:16 PM3/19/04
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Oh ye of little knowledge.

Try Felicia bergeriana.


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Kay Easton

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Mar 19, 2004, 4:05:29 PM3/19/04
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In article <YDI6c.37291$676....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>, Cereus-
validus <fashizzl...@spam.net> writes

>Oh ye of little knowledge.
>
>Try Felicia bergeriana.
>
Felicia bergeriana is extremely unlikely to be in flower atm.

Anemone blanda is in flower, is widely planted, and to a non-gardener,
non-botanist looks extremely daisy like. The fact the OP goes on to say
that the unidentified plant has 'anemone like leaves' is a further
suggestion that it is Anemone blanda.

Please be less free with your insults.

Pam Moore

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Mar 19, 2004, 5:40:15 PM3/19/04
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:05:29 +0000, Kay Easton
<k...@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Felicia bergeriana is extremely unlikely to be in flower atm.

I cut mine back under 2 weeks ago after a heavy frost. It had been
flowering up to then.
They grow more than 3 inches high. My immediate thought was anemone
blanda.

Pam in Bristol

Sacha

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(top posting changed)


> Oh ye of little knowledge.
>
> Try Felicia bergeriana.
>

In March? In Yorkshire? Please - tell me you're not a garden designer.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds to email me)


Kay Easton

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Mar 19, 2004, 5:55:19 PM3/19/04
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In article <8ctm5010juu87rr6u...@4ax.com>, Pam Moore
<pamdo...@NOSPAMvirgin.net> writes

You're in Bristol, the OP is in Yorkshire. I'd be surprised if any
annual would make it through to now, but I could be wrong.

Sacha

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Pam Moore19/3/04 10:40
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But Pam, you're in Bristol! The original question came from someone in
Yorkshire. You are in the west country - they are not.
This remark isn't directed at you, Pam but when people give
advice/opinions/information here, it might be a good thing if they
considered where the OP lives. That's why many of us ask newbies where they
live - it makes a HUGE difference. Here in S. Devon we have customers who
live on Dartmoor, in Plymouth, Salcombe and Torquay and many permutations of
all of those. All will experience totally different conditions in this small
area and some will just not know enough. Only last week I stopped a young
couple making their first garden from buying a Hardenbergia because they
liked the colour! Horticultural heartbreak would have followed as the night
the day.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Rodger Whitlock

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Mar 19, 2004, 5:57:40 PM3/19/04
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:08:59 +0000, Kay Easton wrote:

> In article <20040319090115...@mb-m16.aol.com>, MallowKat
> <mall...@aol.com> writes
> >My mother has seen a blue daisy like flower with a greeny yellow centre growing
> >a few inches tall in Yorkshire. Can anyone tell me what it might be?
>
> Anemone blanda?

Considering the time of year, that's a good possibility. It might
be A nemorosa or A appenina, though the latter is rather rare in
gardens.


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Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

Cereus-validus

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Mar 20, 2004, 12:48:25 AM3/20/04
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Tell that to all the exhibitors at the flower shows.

Insults are free for the taking.
If they stick on you, that's your fault.
Especially if you have the hubris to think you think you are such a psychic
garden expert.

With fiends like you, who needs bland anemones?


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Eur Ing John Rye

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Mar 20, 2004, 3:55:10 AM3/20/04
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Hello All

In article <JWQ6c.37440$%S7....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,

Calm down folks. There is another less common possibility, and that is
Hepatica trannilvanica. This is flowering nicely in my garden at the moment.

John

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Jane Ransom

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In article <BC812AD5.17A3C%sac...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
<sac...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes

>
>In March? In Yorkshire? Please - tell me you're not a garden designer.

Shim's a troll !
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Jane Ransom

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Mar 20, 2004, 4:45:54 AM3/20/04
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In article <eoc2qiKZ...@scarboro.demon.co.uk>, Kay Easton
<k...@scarboro.demon.co.uk> writes

>
>Please be less free with your insults.

Kay, read this shim's offerings to the various crossposted groups that
shim has replied to.
Shim is a troll :(

Pam Moore

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Mar 20, 2004, 6:43:30 AM3/20/04
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:07:59 +0000, Sacha
<sac...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>But Pam, you're in Bristol! The original question came from someone in
>Yorkshire. You are in the west country - they are not.

Reprimand accepted!
I must read more carefully.
I've never had felicia last this long before, and we have had some
quite heavy frosts.

Pam in Bristol

Sacha

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Pam Moore20/3/04 11:43
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> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:07:59 +0000, Sacha
> <sac...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> But Pam, you're in Bristol! The original question came from someone in
>> Yorkshire. You are in the west country - they are not.
>
> Reprimand accepted!

Well, it wasn't meant to be a reprimand, more of a heads up to all of us, me
included. I've been guilty of many such sins, I'm sure, e.g. recommending
Escallonia for hedging to people who couldn't hope to keep it, or so I'm
told! Virtually all my gardening life has been in the Channel Islands or
Devonshire, so my experience of climate is narrow and I have to remember
that!

> I must read more carefully.
> I've never had felicia last this long before, and we have had some
> quite heavy frosts.
>

I've kept several things that are supposed to die at the first hint of a
breath of frost, through winters in Jersey but IME, such plants succumb if
there's prolonged frost, rather than frost that goes off quite quickly
during the day, if you see what I mean. For example I had Tibouchina and
Polygala and Leonotis in one garden for a few years until we had a very
unusual 3 or 4 days of continuous frost which finished them off.
We tried leaving a Polygala outside last year and it was killed off while
Leonotis survived.
I'll try to remember to leave some Felicia out this year to over winter and
see if it survives because we do like to experiment with things.
When I first moved to Devon, David Poole very kindly gave me a few choice
things for my garden, though acknowledging I was his 'experiment'! He lives
in Torquay and has a walled garden, I lived only 3 or 4 miles away back
then but I was in a frost pocket and a lot of what he gave me was wiped out
in one winter. It was interesting, if sad.
We've had some sharp frosts but only one day when the ice on the fish pond
didn't melt entirely. I think that day was down to -5 or -6. We were
worried about a few things but so far, so good. The Grevillea rosmarifolia
which some think tender is flowering its socks off now but I must remember
to inspect the Cytisus battandieri!

Cereus-validus

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Mar 20, 2004, 8:03:05 AM3/20/04
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The only person who matters in this thread is the original poster asking the
question and that is Mallowkat.

The irrelevant lame guesses from the rest of you, especially egomaniacal
know-it-all Kay Easton, don't mean a thing. I wouldn't bet money on any of
you biddies being correct.


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Kay Easton

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Mar 20, 2004, 9:45:50 AM3/20/04
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In article <BC81ED73.17A93%sac...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
<sac...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes

>We've had some sharp frosts but only one day when the ice on the fish pond
>didn't melt entirely.

!!!

We've had whole weeks when the ice on the fish pond didn't melt at all!
(and I do mean this winter)

When we were up in Northumbria a couple of weeks back, the river was
freezing every night, and had sheets of ice drifting slowly down it all
day.

Sacha

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Kay Easton20/3/04 2:45
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> In article <BC81ED73.17A93%sac...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk>, Sacha
> <sac...@gardenweeds506.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>
>> We've had some sharp frosts but only one day when the ice on the fish pond
>> didn't melt entirely.
>
> !!!
>
> We've had whole weeks when the ice on the fish pond didn't melt at all!
> (and I do mean this winter)
>
> When we were up in Northumbria a couple of weeks back, the river was
> freezing every night, and had sheets of ice drifting slowly down it all
> day.

Just the right weather to see Felicia in Yorkshire, then? ;-))

--

Sacha

Franz Heymann

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"Cereus-validus" <fashizzl...@spam.net> wrote in
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> Felicia bergeriana

That is unlikely. I think it is much more likely to be
Anemone blanda, which is just flowering now here in the
Yorkshire Dales, where I have not yet seen any F bergeriana
in flower yet The OP did say that the leaves were
anemone-like. The F bergeriana leaves are not particularly
anemone-like.
I think Kaye's original suggestion was right.

I hope you don't mind my relocating your contribution to the
recommended position in the thread.

Franz


Franz Heymann

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"Rodger Whitlock" <toto...@atlanticcoast.invalid> wrote in
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> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:08:59 +0000, Kay Easton wrote:
>
> > In article
<20040319090115...@mb-m16.aol.com>, MallowKat
> > <mall...@aol.com> writes
> > >My mother has seen a blue daisy like flower with a
greeny yellow centre growing
> > >a few inches tall in Yorkshire. Can anyone tell me what
it might be?
> >
> > Anemone blanda?
>
> Considering the time of year, that's a good possibility.
It might
> be A nemorosa or A appenina, though the latter is rather
rare in
> gardens.

Hold it! A nemorosa is white-flowered. Or am I behind the
times?

Franz

Cereus-validus

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Yada, Yada, Yada.

Go chase yourself, Broccoli.

Are you challenging me to a bitch slapping duel? Nobody doubts that you
would win. I would never touch a rabid dog.

You and your nasty Sapphic friends hurled the first insults and you continue
to do so.

The arrogant holier-than-thou attitude of you repressed prissy fusspot
biddies in this group passing for knowledge leaves much to be desired. Doubt
whether you menstruating clowns are fooling many people here. If you want to
take a dump in your own playground, you should at least admit your own shit
stinks.

You should get off the pot and go back to abusing yourself with phallic root
vegetables like you usually do, Trollina. You are obviously so frustrated
you are about to explode.


"Janet Baraclough.." <janet.a...@flobalobzetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The message <JWQ6c.37440$%S7....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>
> from "Cereus-validus" <fashizzl...@spam.net> contains these words:


>
> > Tell that to all the exhibitors at the flower shows.
>
> > Insults are free for the taking.
> > If they stick on you, that's your fault.
> > Especially if you have the hubris to think you think you are such a
psychic
> > garden expert.
>

> You're unlikely to get away here, with the kind of behaviour you indulge
> in at home in rec.gardens. Urg gardeners don't practise or appreciate
> gutter or playground abuse, and we generally tend to be smarter with
> newsreader software than many rec.gardens posters.
>
> Of course, KF occupants still have the trolls to talk to. Urg's trolls
> use polite language but know (and care) less than nothing about plants,
> gardens and horticulture so you might find them even less congenial than
> the gardeners.
>
> Your choice.
>
> Janet.


Cereus-validus

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Mar 20, 2004, 6:27:44 PM3/20/04
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Like I said, Franz:

The only person who matters in this thread is the original poster asking the
question and that is Mallowkat.

Whatever the plant turns out to be depends on what she says and nobody else.

Any opinions from the rest of you in the peanut gallery is totally
irrelevant and a waste of time, that especially includes Kaye's opinions.

Got it? Get it. Good!

If you find top-posting annoying, I will continue to do so!


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Franz Heymann

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"Cereus-validus" <fashizzl...@spam.net> wrote in
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> Like I said, Franz:
>
> The only person who matters in this thread is the original
poster asking the
> question and that is Mallowkat.
>
> Whatever the plant turns out to be depends on what she
says and nobody else.
>
> Any opinions from the rest of you in the peanut gallery is
totally
> irrelevant and a waste of time, that especially includes
Kaye's opinions.
>
> Got it? Get it. Good!
>
> If you find top-posting annoying, I will continue to do
so!

Frankly, I did not expect anything else from you.

[snip]

Franz

Franz Heymann

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"Cereus-validus" <fashizzl...@spam.net> wrote in
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[snip]

I intend to use the snipped contents of the contibution from
"cereus-validus" to lodge an abuse message to
ab...@prodigy.net.
I suggest other urglers use this, and a whole lot of
previous messages from this man as evidence in similar abuse
messages.

Franz


Cereus-validus

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Oh what a gutless wonder you are, Franz.

Did you run off to your mommy and cry about it too?

Did she change your poopy diaper yet?

Seems maybe what you need is a girlfriend or maybe in your case a boyfriend
so you can get yourself something else to fritter away your time instead of
worrying about some lame newsgroup?


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Rodger Whitlock

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:42:30 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

> Hold it! A nemorosa is white-flowered. Or am I behind the
> times?

You are behind the times. Martha Stewart announced that white
anemone nemorosa is passe and only pale pastel blue will do in
today's hard hitting dog eat dog world of finance and petty
dishonesty. Get with the program.

(To which the guru replies pastel plants for pastel people.)


Less jokingly: afaik, most A. nemorosa cultivars are pale blue.
Good whites are less common. There are a few pink- and
purple-tinged forms.

But what do I know? The plant isn't native here, and it may be
that bluish forms are rarer than white in the wild, hence favored
for bringing into gardens.

Franz Heymann

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"Rodger Whitlock" <toto...@atlanticcoast.invalid> wrote in
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> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 22:42:30 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann
wrote:
>
> > Hold it! A nemorosa is white-flowered. Or am I behind
the
> > times?
>
> You are behind the times. Martha Stewart announced that
white
> anemone nemorosa is passe and only pale pastel blue will
do in
> today's hard hitting dog eat dog world of finance and
petty
> dishonesty. Get with the program.
>
> (To which the guru replies pastel plants for pastel
people.)
>
>
> Less jokingly: afaik, most A. nemorosa cultivars are pale
blue.
> Good whites are less common. There are a few pink- and
> purple-tinged forms.
>
> But what do I know? The plant isn't native here, and it
may be
> that bluish forms are rarer than white in the wild, hence
favored
> for bringing into gardens.

Well, the only ones I have ever seen are the wild
windflowers and wood anemones, which are white A nemorosa.
I am not aware of any cultivated cqrieties , so I must be
out of date.

Franz


Janet Galpin and Oliver Patterson

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> Franz

Roger is right about bluish forms, but they are a very pale blue, not at
all like the bright blue of Anemone blanda. There are two quite commonly
available bluish varieties, both of which are quite vigorous: A.
nemorosa 'Robinsoniana' and A. nemorosa 'Allenii'.
However, I wouldn't say there are more blue cultivars than white; there
are some quite large-flowered white forms available as cultivars too
and, of course, the species itself which is an excellent plant in its
own right.

Janet G

Franz Heymann

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"Janet Galpin and Oliver Patterson"
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That's interesting. Thanks for confirming what Roger said..
I, too, like the ordinary white form, and have a smallpatch
of them under a tree.

Franz

Jaques d'Alltrades

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from "Franz Heymann" <notfranz...@btopenworld.com> contains these words:

> That's interesting. Thanks for confirming what Roger said..


> I, too, like the ordinary white form, and have a smallpatch
> of them under a tree.

The wild variety?

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Janet Tweedy

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>In article <YDI6c.37291$676....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>, Cereus-
>validus <fashizzl...@spam.net> writes
>>Oh ye of little knowledge.
>>
>>Try Felicia bergeriana.
>>
>Felicia bergeriana is extremely unlikely to be in flower atm.

Well not so sure young Kay, I've just found some of last years petunias
that were in a large pot behind the greenhouse and they are all quite
happily surviving if a trifle straggly!
Never known those to survive the winter inside let alone outside.
janet

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Franz Heymann

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"Jaques d'Alltrades" <creaki...@foobar.zetnet.co.uk>
wrote in message
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> The message <c3mjlk$su5$5...@sparta.btinternet.com>
> from "Franz Heymann" <notfranz...@btopenworld.com>
contains these words:
>
> > That's interesting. Thanks for confirming what Roger
said..
> > I, too, like the ordinary white form, and have a
smallpatch
> > of them under a tree.
>
> The wild variety?

I did not collect them from the wild. {:-( I acquired
a few from a nursery, many years ago. I have no idea where
they got them from.

Franz


Jaques d'Alltrades

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from "Franz Heymann" <notfranz...@btopenworld.com> contains these words:
> "Jaques d'Alltrades" <creaki...@foobar.zetnet.co.uk>
> wrote in message
> news:200403221...@foobar.zetnet.co.uk...
> > The message <c3mjlk$su5$5...@sparta.btinternet.com>
> > from "Franz Heymann" <notfranz...@btopenworld.com>
> contains these words:
> >
> > > That's interesting. Thanks for confirming what Roger
> said..
> > > I, too, like the ordinary white form, and have a
> smallpatch
> > > of them under a tree.
> >
> > The wild variety?

> I did not collect them from the wild. {:-( I acquired
> a few from a nursery, many years ago. I have no idea where
> they got them from.

Oh. I asked because I'm after some seeds of the wild wood anemone. And
some Ransomes. Nostalgia Rules.....

Kay Easton

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In article <bm+AAJOK...@ukonline.co.uk>, Janet Tweedy
<j...@lancedal.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <eoc2qiKZ...@scarboro.demon.co.uk>, Kay Easton
><k...@scarboro.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In article <YDI6c.37291$676....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>, Cereus-
>>validus <fashizzl...@spam.net> writes
>>>Oh ye of little knowledge.
>>>
>>>Try Felicia bergeriana.
>>>
>>Felicia bergeriana is extremely unlikely to be in flower atm.
>
>Well not so sure young Kay, I've just found some of last years petunias
>that were in a large pot behind the greenhouse and they are all quite
>happily surviving if a trifle straggly!
>Never known those to survive the winter inside let alone outside.

But you are slightly south of the OP! ;-)

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