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H Ryder

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Apr 3, 2006, 5:09:44 AM4/3/06
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Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)

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Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

Sacha

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Apr 3, 2006, 7:32:19 AM4/3/06
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H Ryder wrote:
> Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
> front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
> seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)
>
Apparently, they can get to 30' but goodness knows how long that
takes! They like deep, fertile soil and full sun, so your 'some sun'
and clay probably won't hack it. ;-(
My own experience of these has been disappointing, I must admit, so I'm
probably a bit biased but I think they're more 'talk' than 'action', if
you see what I mean!
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk

K

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Apr 3, 2006, 10:27:56 AM4/3/06
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Sacha <sac...@garden506.fsnet.co.uk> writes

>
>H Ryder wrote:
>> Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
>> front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
>> seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)
>>
>Apparently, they can get to 30' but goodness knows how long that
>takes!

Less than 25 years to get to about 20ft from my father's experience.
They tend to lean and spread with low branches, so have quite a large
'footprint' - not the sort of tree which you walk around under.

> They like deep, fertile soil and full sun, so your 'some sun'
>and clay probably won't hack it. ;-(

My father's was in an orchard on clay, though probably with more sun
than your north facing garden will get.


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Kay

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Emery Davis

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Apr 3, 2006, 5:22:39 PM4/3/06
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On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:07:05 +0100
Janet Baraclough <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> The message <sD5Yf.42353$u31....@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>
> from "H Ryder" <hayley.ry...@tesco.net> contains these words:


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> > Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
> > front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
> > seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)
>

> I have the purple-leafed form called Forest Pansy which is gorgeous,
> but quite slow growing so far..about 6" per year. I'm growing that in
> full sun for best colour.
>

Isn't that a Cercis canadensis cultivar? Actually (although I know
it's a pretty plant) that's what I'm hoping I _don't_ have, as I don't
need another reddish bush where I've put it. Should find out soon! :)

I'm always a bit embarrassed when I buy these "generic" plants
on impulse, then try to figure it out afterwards...

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Sacha

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Apr 3, 2006, 6:07:00 PM4/3/06
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Emery Davis wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:07:05 +0100
> Janet Baraclough <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > The message <sD5Yf.42353$u31....@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>
> > from "H Ryder" <hayley.ry...@tesco.net> contains these words:
> >
> > > Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
> > > front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
> > > seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)
> >
> > I have the purple-leafed form called Forest Pansy which is gorgeous,
> > but quite slow growing so far..about 6" per year. I'm growing that in
> > full sun for best colour.
> >
>
> Isn't that a Cercis canadensis cultivar? Actually (although I know
> it's a pretty plant) that's what I'm hoping I _don't_ have, as I don't
> need another reddish bush where I've put it. Should find out soon! :)
>
> I'm always a bit embarrassed when I buy these "generic" plants
> on impulse, then try to figure it out afterwards...

If you have Forest Pansy and decide you don't want it, make sure you
sell it for a good price!! It's highly desirable and some nurseries
are selling it for £45.00 and more. Would that be an impulse buy for
you? ;-)
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Emery Davis

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Apr 3, 2006, 6:21:23 PM4/3/06
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On 3 Apr 2006 15:07:00 -0700
"Sacha" <sac...@garden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

Nope, not quite! Forest Pansy is pretty widely available, and
for awhile was the only Cercis I saw at the local nurseries/centres.
Mine actually came from a DYI where the plants are usually
in awful condition, but I always have a look while buying light bulbs.
(Old tri-phase and 440V power, we go through light bulbs.) This
was huge, easily 2.5 m, I barely stuffed it into the car. It was 24 EU,
so I know that even though Cercis doesn't like to be moved large,
if it dies it won't be too big a hit. Anyway if it is Forest Pansy I'm
sure I'll find a way to live with it. :)

Actually every time I buy something from one of these places
I swear it's the last time, then I see another "great deal,"
and off I go. Oh well.

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Emery Davis

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Apr 4, 2006, 9:47:11 AM4/4/06
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On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:42:28 +0100
Janet Baraclough <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> The message <20060404002...@loki.domain.org>
> from Emery Davis <laer...@esserda.oc.ku> contains these words:


>
>
> > Mine actually came from a DYI where the plants are usually
> > in awful condition, but I always have a look while buying light bulbs.
> > (Old tri-phase and 440V power, we go through light bulbs.) This
> > was huge, easily 2.5 m, I barely stuffed it into the car. It was 24 EU,
> > so I know that even though Cercis doesn't like to be moved large,
> > if it dies it won't be too big a hit.
>

> I'd heard they hated root disturbance too, but mine moved with us
> from the last garden, where it had been planted out on the edge of a
> copse for around two years. Before the house was marketed I dug FP up
> again , losing a fair bit of root to fit the rootball into a big pot. It
> lived there for nine months before being replanted about 3 years ago. No
> problems at all.
>

Thanks. There's hope yet. :) The most annoying thing about
mine was the plastic basket it was growing through/around,
that hard plastic already strangling some roots. Took me
a solid half hour to cut the thing away.

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