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john

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May 17, 2001, 4:52:15 PM5/17/01
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Are holly trees in a cemetery protected by order of the church or by tree
preservation ? As our cemetery has knot weed and our parish council has
employed a man to spray but it will kill everything thing including two
health variegated holly trees? Reply urgent as they are spraying soon.


rick martin

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May 17, 2001, 5:01:06 PM5/17/01
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Hi

as a landscape contractor i would like to offer the following advice to you.

the man you say who is going to spray the areas with herbicide over the knot
weed is he :

employed by a company who is working on behalf of the church
has he got a PA1 PA6A herbicide certificate ( if not he is breaking the law
along with the church for employing him )
what herbicide is he using in what quantities


this is now the most effective time to control knot weed using roundup pro
( glysophate ) at the rate of 500ml to 15 litres of water, applied to the
folliage of the weed, now and another application in July.

i doubt their been any conservation orders on the holly trees unless your in
a conservation area ?, have you chaecked with your local council / tree
officer ?, have you checked the details of the man spraying, are you going
to reported them to the council if he has no herbicide certificate ?, are
you going to ask him to see the certificate ?, its more of a health problem
also if he dont know what he is doing ?

Our local council gave a local church a grant to help control the weed, as
growing it is illegal !

lets know the result please

rick


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May 18, 2001, 12:38:08 AM5/18/01
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In reply to:
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There is no blanket order on about not killing any type of tree
as far as I Know it purely depends on whether your local
coucil, has placed a protection oder on that particular tree or
trees in that particular area. protection orders are more
common in towns / cities or "Historic pretty villages" if you're
out in the countryside in a "non tourist" area it would be
unlikely there would be such an order.
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Jon Rouse

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May 18, 2001, 9:25:32 AM5/18/01
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john wrote in message ...


Call the tree person at your local planning department. If they are old
enough and mature enough he can spot list them, unless they are part of a
hedgerow.

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Tumbleweed

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May 19, 2001, 5:35:47 PM5/19/01
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"Jon Rouse" <jon.rouse@(nospam)postoffice.co.uk (omit nospam to reply)>
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> john wrote in message ...
> >Are holly trees in a cemetery protected by order of the church or by tree
> >preservation ? As our cemetery has knot weed and our parish council has
> >employed a man to spray but it will kill everything thing including two
> >health variegated holly trees? Reply urgent as they are spraying soon.
>
>
> Call the tree person at your local planning department. If they are old
> enough and mature enough he can spot list them, unless they are part of a
> hedgerow.

Why do you think that two easily replaced trees take precedence over
eliminating an alien invasive weed, that will probably, by smothering native
plants, kill many times more wildlife than the holly trees will sustain (if
any, my one appears totally barren of all animals)
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Jon Rouse

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May 21, 2001, 9:39:48 AM5/21/01
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Tumbleweed wrote in message <9e6p3i$82t$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>...

>
>"Jon Rouse" <jon.rouse@(nospam)postoffice.co.uk (omit nospam to reply)>
>wrote in message news:99019238...@igateway.postoffice.co.uk...

>> Call the tree person at your local planning department. If they are old
>> enough and mature enough he can spot list them, unless they are part of a
>> hedgerow.
>
>Why do you think that two easily replaced trees take precedence over
>eliminating an alien invasive weed, that will probably, by smothering
native
>plants, kill many times more wildlife than the holly trees will sustain (if
>any, my one appears totally barren of all animals)


Please indicate which aspect of my response leads you to assume I think
thus?

Tumbleweed

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May 22, 2001, 4:16:16 PM5/22/01
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"Jon Rouse" <jon.rouse@(nospam)postoffice.co.uk (omit nospam to reply)>
wrote in message news:99045244...@igateway.postoffice.co.uk...

> Tumbleweed wrote in message <9e6p3i$82t$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> >
> >"Jon Rouse" <jon.rouse@(nospam)postoffice.co.uk (omit nospam to reply)>
> >wrote in message news:99019238...@igateway.postoffice.co.uk...
>
>
> >> Call the tree person at your local planning department. If they are old
> >> enough and mature enough he can spot list them, unless they are part of
a
> >> hedgerow.
> >
> >Why do you think that two easily replaced trees take precedence over
> >eliminating an alien invasive weed, that will probably, by smothering
> native
> >plants, kill many times more wildlife than the holly trees will sustain
(if
> >any, my one appears totally barren of all animals)
>
>
> Please indicate which aspect of my response leads you to assume I think
> thus?

Well, my assumption (a dangerous thing I admit) was that by not spraying
around the trees some knotweed will survive. If the herbicide is foliar
based only, and not a complete 'pathclear' type weedkiller, then I fail to
see why the holly trees would be sprayed at all, and thus why they would
need protection?

Jon Rouse

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May 23, 2001, 8:19:21 AM5/23/01
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Tumbleweed wrote in message <9eehnq$ct9$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>...

>
>Well, my assumption (a dangerous thing I admit) was that by not spraying
>around the trees some knotweed will survive. If the herbicide is foliar
>based only, and not a complete 'pathclear' type weedkiller, then I fail to
>see why the holly trees would be sprayed at all, and thus why they would
>need protection?


But my response was a reply to "john" <john....@VIRGIN.NET> who wrote:

>Are holly trees in a cemetery protected by order of the church or by tree
>preservation ? As our cemetery has knot weed and our parish council has
>employed a man to spray but it will kill everything thing including two
>health variegated holly trees? Reply urgent as they are spraying soon.

I then suggested that the tree preservation officer at the local council
would be able to advise on whether or not they were protected, and you then
launched onto some kind of hobby horse about hollies. If "john" thinks there
is a risk to the holly trees, the local council tree officer is the person
to advise him as to whether there is or not. As you rightly say, if the
trees are tall enough there is little risk from a foliar weedkiller, but one
that soaks into the ground and kills roots may also kill the trees.

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