Roy Lancaster!
Bruno nicolai
which is on / use to be on Discoverery home and leisure?..... And does
anyone know the name of the big guy with the dark hair who co-hosted it?....
And by any chance (as if u didn't have pick your brains enough) Does anyone
know the name of the horticulture college the big guy with the dark hair
etc. went to?
LOL...*sigh*....sorry bout that......just a bit of research for a course i'm
doing! : )
Bruno.
Dave Poole
>Does anyone know the name of the Gardening programe Roy lancaster presented
>which is on / use to be on Discoverery home and leisure?..... And does
>anyone know the name of the big guy with the dark hair who co-hosted it?....
It was 'Gardening club' Bruno - sadly axed by Ch4 about 2 years ago
and now endlessly repeated on DH&L. Which is not so bad, but when
they keep on coming back with that ridiculous nonsense from Anthony
Henn as well ('Great Gardening Show'? - 'Great Gardening Disaster'
would be closer to the truth), they really do need to 'change the
needle'. Can't remember about the 'big fellah' - Nick Wray isn't it?
David Poole
Martin Froggatt
THE best gardening programmes ever shown.Roy's in depth knowledge of plants and,
of course, the fabulous gardens and gardeners featured put it at the top.
Still, we have Carol Vordermans gardening show to look forward to now ;-)
Martin Froggatt.
Martin Froggatt
Martin Froggatt.
Bruno nicolai
> No,not Nick Wray.I've just remembered it was Mathew Biggs.
> Martin Froggatt.
Yessss!!!....That's him.....Thanks Martin......All i need to find out now is
the name of the Hort. college he went to!
Bruno Nicolai.
Dave Poole
>I'm pretty sure it is Nick Wray.The Gardening Club series has got to be one of
>THE best gardening programmes ever shown.Roy's in depth knowledge of plants and,
>of course, the fabulous gardens and gardeners featured put it at the top.
Absolutely, Roy is one of the most under-estimated of Britain's
greatest plantsmen (not by me) and his superb knowledge is all too
often sidestepped in favour of some pretty awful and totally ignorant
showmen who presume to adopt the cloak of being 'gardener'.
>Still, we have Carol Vordermans gardening show to look forward to now ;-)
As a 'presenter'. she does not 'presume' that much, but just look at
some of those who surround her!
David Poole
TORQUAY UK
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Bruno nicolai
accent...Geeeezzzzz.....i'm so bad with names!
Bruno.
Jill Bell
<nic...@gofree.indigo.ie> writes
>Anne Swithenbank is great too.....and that young guy with the Scottish
>accent...Geeeezzzzz.....i'm so bad with names!
Bill Chudziak?
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John Neale Baraclough
"The one with the accent or the blond one?"
This thread must make depressing reading for lurking tv gardening
presenters with media ambitions to become a Big Name.....whoever they are:-)
Janet
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Bruno nicolai
> Do you ever see the other programme on Cable where a blonde girl (aren't
> they always) and a blonde bloke, their names being forgettable, visit
> gardens and do one thing to each of them, apparently jazzing them up no
> end all in one day, with this non-plussed house owner being truly
> overwhelmed by gratitude for the immense improvement they had made to
> their garden. I think the bloke was in a series with Claire thingy
> tarting up country house gardens in two teams..................
>
Yeah....that's Toby ????
Martin Froggatt
Dimmock ??
"You know,the one the the large...................."
Martin Froggatt.
Bruno nicolai
> >Anne Swithenbank is great too.....and that young guy with the Scottish
> >accent...Geeeezzzzz.....i'm so bad with names!
>
> Bill Chudziak?
> --
Yeah.....Bill Chudziak......i thought he was brilliant........He'd allways
introduce u to new plants and was so enthusiastic. I think the programe,
himself and Anne were in, was called Bloom! Wonder what ever happened to
that?
Bruno.
Mave Pratt
<j...@lancedal.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <kb5f9s8jnc7cl1jcd...@4ax.com>, Dave Poole
><dave-...@ilsham.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>
>>
>
>the details merge into oblivion......................
>
>
>However the presenter of gardens without borders is a much better bet
>for an interesting gardening programme, again I can't remember his name
>but he even managed to make a series about gardens of the media
>personalities fairly interesting and I even watched as he introduced
>gardens from Italy and Spain etc.
>
>
>>
>Janet
Wasn't that Alan Mason. Sorry I have been lurking for a few weeks, so I
should introduce myself. I live in Ilkley, West Yorkshire. I have lived
here for 18 years but have only done what was absolutely necessary in
the garden due to pressure of work. Circumstances have now changed and
my enthusiasm has been rekindled. I have garden on all sides of the
house with two large Beech trees which cause a lot of shade problems.
I have found the various discussions very useful already, and have
planted up some Lilies in pots.
--
Mave
gwo...@albany.net
>"You know,the one the the large...................."
Tracts of land, the American said hopefully?
He who used to watch "Good Neighbors? (Known in the UK as "The Good Life,"
I think) for the comedic content and Felicity Kendal, not necessarily in
that order.
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation.
Edward Sparkes
from Dave Poole <dave-...@ilsham.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> Absolutely, Roy is one of the most under-estimated of Britain's
> greatest plantsmen <<<Snipped>>>>
Agreed David, he must be the finest plantsman in the public eye today.
Is it our own fault that such men are pushed into the background by
"presenters"?
Are we begging to have the wool pulled over our eyes?
We demand to be entertained, not educated. Laziness?
Why, in an entertainment on Television does our genuine interest in
archaeology have to be jollied up so that the "instant" solution is
used to keep our attention and an actor well suited to playing
'Baldrick' primps about and men with genuine ability play second fiddle?
Am I getting at Charlie Dimmock? Far from it. She appeared in a gardening
programme and the 'powers that be', were amazed that men preferred a
perfectly natural girl to their own slick creations.
What did they do?
Makes yer sick dunnit?
Jon Rouse
> Why, in an entertainment on Television does our genuine interest in
> archaeology have to be jollied up so that the "instant" solution is
> used to keep our attention and an actor well suited to playing
> 'Baldrick' primps about and men with genuine ability play second fiddle?
We watched 'Meet the ancestors" last night. They had twenty archaeologists
taking a week to excavate a graveyard in the channel islands. I commented to
Sue that TT would have done the whole lot in three days. It makes you wonder
what they do to the archaeology working at that speed.
--
The views expressed are my own, and may not necessarily reflect those of my
employer.
Kay Easton
<Ma...@ilkley.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>>>
>>Janet
>Wasn't that Alan Mason. Sorry I have been lurking for a few weeks, so I
>should introduce myself. I live in Ilkley, West Yorkshire. I have lived
>here for 18 years but have only done what was absolutely necessary in
>the garden due to pressure of work. Circumstances have now changed and
>my enthusiasm has been rekindled. I have garden on all sides of the
>house with two large Beech trees which cause a lot of shade problems.
>I have found the various discussions very useful already, and have
>planted up some Lilies in pots.
Welcome to urg :-)
I'm in Yeadon, so am not so far from you, with a damp clayey garden.
Lots of shade, but caused by the house not be trees, so I don't have the
dry shade problems that you have.
--
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http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/
Dave Poole
>> Absolutely, Roy is one of the most under-estimated of Britain's
>> greatest plantsmen <<<Snipped>>>>
> Agreed David, he must be the finest plantsman in the public eye today.
> Is it our own fault that such men are pushed into the background by
> "presenters"?
I suspect in Roy Lancaster's case, he has better, more important
things to do than play with television for very great periods of time.
I could be entirely wrong, but I sense a reluctance to become just
another 'pop presenter' and with 'Garden Club' having run its course
with nothing suitably serious to follow, it does not surprise me that
he appears to have taken a 'sabbatical'. I look forward to his return
at some stage - even when discussing a subject that has been 'done to
death', he manages to introduce a snippet that causes the ears to
prick.
> We demand to be entertained, not educated. Laziness?
Sadly Edward, 'Joe Public' seems to prefer non-intellectually
stimulating stuff, liberally interspersed with lame humour and
positively one-legged innuendo. Sweety-pie natures and artificially
bubbling enthusiasm are needed to lift the sheer mediocrity of the
information given. Of course it fails abysmally and has me hammering
the remote buttons with a fervour that would do justice to a
woodpecker!
> Why, in an entertainment on Television does our genuine interest in
> archaeology have to be jollied up so that the "instant" solution is
> used to keep our attention and an actor well suited to playing
> 'Baldrick' primps about and men with genuine ability play second fiddle?
Good question and why oh why do they allow a squealing, simpering and
out of control, camp 'florist' (Carl White), with precious little
obvious knowledge of even the basics, to flounce around in the name of
horticultural expertise? I'm not being a 'phobe' or anything like
that, but his absurd, totally ineffective and nonsensical
presentations are an utter disgrace and really do bring home the fact
that TV gardening is fast approaching its nadir.
David Poole
Ceitag
> I suspect in Roy Lancaster's case, he has better, more important
> things to do than play with television for very great periods of time.
> I could be entirely wrong, but I sense a reluctance to become just
> another 'pop presenter' and with 'Garden Club' having run its course
> with nothing suitably serious to follow, it does not surprise me that
> he appears to have taken a 'sabbatical'. I look forward to his return
> at some stage - even when discussing a subject that has been 'done to
> death', he manages to introduce a snippet that causes the ears to
> prick.
>
> stimulating stuff, liberally interspersed with lame humour and
> positively one-legged innuendo. Sweety-pie natures and artificially
> bubbling enthusiasm are needed to lift the sheer mediocrity of the
> information given. Of course it fails abysmally and has me hammering
> the remote buttons with a fervour that would do justice to a
> woodpecker!
>
> > Why, in an entertainment on Television does our genuine interest in
> > archaeology have to be jollied up so that the "instant" solution is
> > used to keep our attention and an actor well suited to playing
> > 'Baldrick' primps about and men with genuine ability play second
fiddle?
>
> Good question and why oh why do they allow a squealing, simpering and
> out of control, camp 'florist' (Carl White), with precious little
> obvious knowledge of even the basics, to flounce around in the name of
> horticultural expertise? I'm not being a 'phobe' or anything like
> that, but his absurd, totally ineffective and nonsensical
> presentations are an utter disgrace and really do bring home the fact
> that TV gardening is fast approaching its nadir.
>
> David Poole
Am I missing something here? Do you all have televisions? Why don't we all
vote with our feet and relax by doing something else? My only contact with
the gardening media is Gardeners' question time 2pm Sundays radio 4, and the
Scottish version which starts at 1pm. Unfortunately, I'm often in the garden
at that time, but every Sunday I wake up full of gleeful anticipation.
But then I don't have a telly, and I can be smug. While I was on holiday at
my sisters I watched everything. I liked the programme with gaye search in
it; she talked calmly to the woman whose garden it was, and there was lots
of useful information in there too. I took an instant dislike to the blond
woman presenting gardening neighbours; she was overly bossy with a grating
voice. I wouldn't be watching that again. Happy viewing and listening to you
all.
Ceitag
Janet Tweedy
<dave-...@ilsham.demon.co.uk> writes
>th genuine ability play second fiddle?
>
>Good question and why oh why do they allow a squealing, simpering and
>out of control, camp 'florist' (Carl White), with precious little
>obvious knowledge of even the basics, to flounce around in the name of
>horticultural expertise?
Is that the idiot on How does Your Garden Grow? If so I couldn't agree
more.
The only gardener/designer who I'd welcome to give me design tips on my
garden is Dan Pearson, he at least appears to love plants and actually
listen to the owners of the plots in question and all his gardens were
as different as those that owned them. Some I didn't like but at least I
could appreciate them for what they were and he dared of back to see
what had happened in the actual programme!!
Janet
Richard Roocroft
>Dave Poole < wrote
> Edward wrote:
>
> >> Absolutely, Roy is one of the most under-estimated of Britain's
> >> greatest plantsmen <<<Snipped>>>>
>
> > Agreed David, he must be the finest plantsman in the public eye today.
> > Is it our own fault that such men are pushed into the background by
> > "presenters"?
>
Hailing from the same wonderful County as the inspiring Roy, and being a
very keen gardener, and having worked in 'The Media', I can only say that
Roy's constant observations in a broad Lancashire accent ' Now when I saw
this growing on a remote hillside in The Himalayas/Tibet/Outer
Mongolia/Bolton......'
I cringed every time - so did my wife ! He can be embarrassing to watch in a
way that Percy Thrower or Geoff Hamilton never were....
Heaven knows what southern middle-class TV executives made of him. They
must've praised the day they could 'rest' him....
No-one's questioning his obvious talent or enthusiasm. It's just that he
often came across as a....... snob, which is rare in Lancashire !
He's not to blame, of course - it's down to the Producers/Directors of the
programmes he's appeared in, not knowing how to direct his obvious talents.
Yes, we're in a visual age. But, hang on, we're supposed to have more
leisure time, and we're not all cable afficionados.
'Who wants to be a Millionaire' is so successful because it's curiously
educational presented in a fun way. Roy could've done the same for
gardening, if he'd been managed as well.
Roo.
Kay Easton
<spa...@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>Why, in an entertainment on Television does our genuine interest in
> archaeology have to be jollied up so that the "instant" solution is
> used to keep our attention and an actor well suited to playing
Because he asks the simple questions so that the viewer without prior
interest/knowledge in archaeology doesn't find theirselves lost in the
jargon of the experts - it's designed to bring archaeology to a wider
audience.
Once upon a time BBC2/Channel4 were watched by the intellectual end of
the middle classes (OK once upon a time BBC2/Channel 4 didn't exist) -
that was the source of intelligent info. Now we go to the 'net and
elsewhere for our info, and the 'serious' channels have widened their
targets.
Same, to a certain extent, with gardening.
I don't see it as a problem. Let those who have the interest, the
commitment and the drive hunt for their info, let the easily available
media cater to those who need tempting. That way, we increase the
overall level of knowledge.
Jill Bell
<nic...@gofree.indigo.ie> writes
>
I don't know, but it was good. There's a lovely book that went with the
series:
Bloom, by Bill Chudziak, Jo Readman and Anne Swithinbank
ISBN 1-85585406 6
Jill
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ji...@bellsbarn.demon.co.uk
Dave Poole
>>Good question and why oh why do they allow a squealing, simpering...
>Is that the idiot on How does Your Garden Grow? If so I couldn't agree
>more.
That little dandyprat crops up with annoying frequency everywhere. I
believe that having been discovered by the Dick'nJude show as an
occasional bit of light relief from Monty Don, Granada Breeze snapped
him up. Now he's prancing about all over the place. Still, he does
have his good points - every I hear time that hideous crescendo of
guttural whines, I suddenly find a million things that I've neglected
to do and promptly attend to them!
David Poole
Dave Poole
amazing and yet at no time does it grate. I suppose its because
despite his comparatively tender years, there appears to be a good
deal of sound knowledge. That lad really shone in 'Bloom' and give
him a few years,plus a slight amount of calming down, I reckon he'll
be about right for taking over 'son of Gardener's World'. Anne
Swithinbank also did a magnificent series for Ch4 about plants in the
Caribbean which was recently repeated on Discovery H&L
David Poole
cormaic
<Richa...@freenet.co.uk> enriched all our lives with these words:
>Hailing from the same wonderful County as the inspiring Roy, and being a
>very keen gardener, and having worked in 'The Media', I can only say that
>Roy's constant observations in a broad Lancashire accent ' Now when I saw
>this growing on a remote hillside in The Himalayas/Tibet/Outer
>Mongolia/Bolton......'
>
>I cringed every time - so did my wife ! He can be embarrassing to watch in a
>way that Percy Thrower or Geoff Hamilton never were....
Eh? Ar't not prowed of a lanky accent, mon? What dos't want us
speyk? Estuary English?
Mrs Taz is a native dialect speaker, probably one of the last
because of the massive impact of tv and the media. She grew up
speaking lanky dialect as her mother tongue, and never got to grips
with the bland non-regional version of english favoured nowadays. A tv
documentary about the persistance of lanky dialect in her home town
had to be sub-titled for the benefit of folk from furrin parts like
Liverpool and Manchester and that London.
>
>Heaven knows what southern middle-class TV executives made of him. They
>must've praised the day they could 'rest' him....
>
>No-one's questioning his obvious talent or enthusiasm. It's just that he
>often came across as a....... snob, which is rare in Lancashire !
Really?
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Richard Roocroft <Richa...@freenet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 'Who wants to be a Millionaire' is so successful because it's curiously
> educational presented in a fun way. Roy could've done the same for
> gardening, if he'd been managed as well.
>
> Roo.
>
>
>
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Richard Roocroft
> >Hailing from the same wonderful County as the inspiring Roy, and being a
> >very keen gardener, and having worked in 'The Media', I can only say that
> >Roy's constant observations in a broad Lancashire accent ' Now when I
saw
> >this growing on a remote hillside in The Himalayas/Tibet/Outer
> >Mongolia/Bolton......'
> >
> >I cringed every time - so did my wife ! He can be embarrassing to watch
in a
> >way that Percy Thrower or Geoff Hamilton never were....
> cormaic replied toRichardroo :
> Eh? Ar't not prowed of a lanky accent, mon? What dos't want us
> speyk? Estuary English?
> Mrs Taz is a native dialect speaker, probably one of the last
> because of the massive impact of tv and the media. She grew up
> speaking lanky dialect as her mother tongue, and never got to grips
> with the bland non-regional version of english favoured nowadays. A tv
> documentary about the persistance of lanky dialect in her home town
> had to be sub-titled for the benefit of folk from furrin parts like
> Liverpool and Manchester and that London.
> >
> >Heaven knows what southern middle-class TV executives made of him. They
> >must've praised the day they could 'rest' him....
> >
> >No-one's questioning his obvious talent or enthusiasm. It's just that he
> >often came across as a....... snob, which is rare in Lancashire !
>
> Really?
Listen, mi lad, tha completelehh miss t'point, dust c......
It wasn't his accent that grated on me, it was when, in every single
flipping programme, he kept recalling his many Continental Plant
Expeditions that most of us Lancastrians would've loved to have undertaken,
myself included, but couldn't afford....
When clever Lancastrians appear on tv, we don't allus want 'em to present
t'cloth cap th'image, tha knows.
Heaven Knows, everyone south of Watford thinks we ALL smoke Tripe whilst
walkin' our whippets in our wellies.......
Think the Producer was to blame for not channelling Roy's expertise down the
correct path.
Now if only Roy'd been as accademically-successful as that highly educated
Carol Vorrdermann - why, he too, could've presented....
Better Homes :)))))) dust c !!!
Roo :)))))))
cormaic
<Richa...@freenet.co.uk> enriched all our lives with these words:
8<---S-N-I-P--->8
>Listen, mi lad, tha completelehh miss t'point, dust c......
>
>It wasn't his accent that grated on me, it was when, in every single
>flipping programme, he kept recalling his many Continental Plant
>Expeditions that most of us Lancastrians would've loved to have undertaken,
>myself included, but couldn't afford....
That's not snobbery, that's envy, and we all suffer from it,
but I still love to hear his tales, even with 4 r's in every word (his
rendition of Blackburrrrrrn is my favourite)
>
>When clever Lancastrians appear on tv, we don't allus want 'em to present
>t'cloth cap th'image, tha knows.
>
You're thinking of Uncle Fred Dibnah, aren't you! ;~)
>Heaven Knows, everyone south of Watford thinks we ALL smoke Tripe whilst
>walkin' our whippets in our wellies.......
It's an image we perpetuate to keep them from migrating up
here and making prices go up.
>
>Think the Producer was to blame for not channelling Roy's expertise down the
>correct path.
>
>Now if only Roy'd been as accademically-successful as that highly educated
>Carol Vorrdermann - why, he too, could've presented....
>
>Better Homes :)))))) dust c !!!
Shouldn't that be Better Whoams?
Karen.Mountford
>
> The only gardener/designer who I'd welcome to give me design tips on my
> garden is Dan Pearson, he at least appears to love plants and actually
> listen to the owners of the plots in question and all his gardens were
> as different as those that owned them. Some I didn't like but at least I
> could appreciate them for what they were and he dared of back to see
> what had happened in the actual programme!!
>
> Janet
I do so agree Janet, I was very disappointed on Friday when they postponed
the "Front Gardens" episode he did. he and another man did a design series
for Channel 4 a few years back which I really enjoyed.
Karen (Coastal Suffolk)
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Bruno nicolai
>
> David Poole
Yeah that was great......i remember the humming birds hovering over the
powder puff tree, crotons backed by lolly pop plants, umberella grass
sprouting up everywhere and something about ''Sexy Pink''?????...think it
was a heliconia cultivar????? I miss all the good gardening programes!!!!!
Bruno.