Antifreeze in Garden Fountains
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in garden water features in order to prevent water pumps
from the effects of freezing ?
Bevan Price
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> Is there any reason why car antifreeze should not be used
> in garden water features in order to prevent water pumps
> from the effects of freezing ?
It will probably poison wildlife, especially if it contains methanol or
ethylene glycol.
Bevan
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well poison any birds or small animals ( the next door neighbors dog maybe )
that drink the water. I'm not sure if you are using the same antifreeze as
we use here in the States, but what we use smells and tastes very sweet and
will attract wildlife to it.
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Marcus Fox
unless the conditions get positively arctic. I would not add antifreeze as
it is quite poisonous, and this is not a similar situation to a car
radiator, in which the water is left standing for long periods of time in
cold weather. I'm not an expert, but I'm guessing that if the pump is left
on with the water continually moving, it is unlikely to freeze. Have you
ever seen a frozen fountain or waterfall in England before?
Marcus
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Brian Watson
> in garden water features in order to prevent water pumps
> from the effects of freezing ?
Add gin or vodka instead - they are less toxic (just) than anti-freeze and
the wildlife will thank you for it as they stagger around in party hats,
giggling.
Ever heard a starling croak, "you're my besht mate, you are!"?
This has been an attempt at humour and in no way should be applied to any
garden water feature unless forming part of a frivolous TV makeover program
with no practical value in the real world.
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Kate Morgan
> > Is there any reason why car antifreeze should not be used
> > in garden water features in order to prevent water pumps
> > from the effects of freezing ?
In the early hours of this morning I heard a neighbours water feature
still trickling away without any help at all and it was -8
kate
Michael Berridge
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fountain, even if you do not see them, they will often be there when you
are not about. Check at your local GC, if it sells water related things,
they may have some non-toxic additives you can get.
Mike
K
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: If the water is continually circulating it is unlikely to freeze in the
pump
: unless the conditions get positively arctic. I would not add antifreeze as
: it is quite poisonous, and this is not a similar situation to a car
: radiator, in which the water is left standing for long periods of time in
: cold weather. I'm not an expert, but I'm guessing that if the pump is left
: on with the water continually moving, it is unlikely to freeze. Have you
: ever seen a frozen fountain or waterfall in England before?
:
: Marcus
According to articles in our local paper recently, very small amounts of
antifreeze are extremely poisonous to animals and cause them to have a very
quick and nasty death. Please do not use it in this way, and please be
careful when disposing of it.
K
Rod
"Marcus Fox" <marcusfox[NOSPAM]@ntlworld.com> Have you
> ever seen a frozen fountain or waterfall in England before?
>
> Marcus
Chatsworth 1963 - quite spectacular.
Rod
Marcus Fox
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Trevor Rimmer
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> If the water is continually circulating it is unlikely to freeze in the pump
> unless the conditions get positively arctic. I would not add antifreeze as
> it is quite poisonous, and this is not a similar situation to a car
> radiator, in which the water is left standing for long periods of time in
> cold weather. I'm not an expert, but I'm guessing that if the pump is left
> on with the water continually moving, it is unlikely to freeze. Have you
> ever seen a frozen fountain or waterfall in England before?
There is an impressive photo in the Copper Beech pub in Abercrave in
the Upper Swansea Valley of the nearby Henrhyd falls having frozen
over - the waterfall is impressively high at a little over 90' single
drop, although the river is barely more than a stream most of the
year. In this big freeze there formed a great sugar loaf shaped mound
of ice over 20' high, with a great sheet hanging from the ledge above.
OK, not England, but same weather.
TrevR
Victoria Clare
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> Have you ever seen a frozen fountain or
> waterfall in England before?
>
Not fountain, but waterfall this year up on Dartmoor!
And the pump my sister used to pump water from her well froze solid and
bust on christmas day, even though it was inside a concrete shed.
Victoria Clare
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Jeff Layman
> Will it kill squirrels?
You could avoid problems for wildlife by making the fountain solution
from common salt or calcium chloride. The former is more easily
obtainable, but the latter is a far more effective antifreeze. Animals
will be able to taste the salt and avoid it.
I have no idea, though, whether or not these solutions will corrode the
fountain pump.
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Jeff
Malcolm Race
(El Delphin Verde) on the med coast of Spain. The water was brackish
(including the showers) and I used the pump in the caravan to supply
water for washing etc. We used borrled water for cookink and drinking.
W returnerd to the UK woth 3 intermediate campsites. I assumed by this
time that the salt had been washed out of the system but by the next
year the pump had seized solid. I would certainly steer clear of salt.
Malcolm
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Gary Woods
Many of the things you could add aren't good for wildlife, either
aquatic or land.
Are your winter temps moderate enough that a stock tank heater
wouldn't be too expensive?
At my location in the American colonies, a heater is out of the
question.
Muddymike
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>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:06:36 -0800 (PST), fstc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Will it kill squirrels?
>>
>> more likely to suffer, such as birds who will be tempted to come and
>> drink if it's the only source of water locally not frozen, and it's
>> probably a very bad idea in general.
>
Use potable anti freeze as sold for boats and camper vans.
Mike