propagation of Hawthorns (Crataegus)
rams...@my-deja.com
about 100 hawthorn plants, I'm particularly intrested in propagation by
cuttings but also can they be grown from seed ie by setting
the "haws"? Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Nick Maclaren
>Help please: Does anyone know a method that works so that I can grow
>about 100 hawthorn plants, I'm particularly intrested in propagation by
>cuttings but also can they be grown from seed ie by setting
>the "haws"? Any advice would be much appreciated.
They certainly can, because that is how they seed themselves! But
I have never done it, so can't help much. I would plant them in a
seed tray this autumn (having scored some of the seeds, if that is
feasible) and leave them outside unprotected over the winter.
With luck, you should get a reasonable number of seedlings next
spring.
There may well be a more reliable method :-)
Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
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Email: nm...@cam.ac.uk
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Peter McCloskey
is the best time so you need to get on with it right away. Be prepared for
a high failure rate.
For seeds, remove the pulp, scrape the surface and sow. Germination may be
the following spring, or the one after that!
rams...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Help please: Does anyone know a method that works so that I can grow
> about 100 hawthorn plants, I'm particularly intrested in propagation by
> cuttings but also can they be grown from seed ie by setting
> the "haws"? Any advice would be much appreciated.
>
Ceitag
Peter McCloskey <peter.m...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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and above taking cuttings.
Ceit
Malcolm
<nm...@cus.cam.ac.uk> writes
>In article <8q2rn1$qt9$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, <rams...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>Help please: Does anyone know a method that works so that I can grow
>>about 100 hawthorn plants, I'm particularly intrested in propagation by
>>cuttings but also can they be grown from seed ie by setting
>>the "haws"? Any advice would be much appreciated.
>
>I have never done it, so can't help much. I would plant them in a
>seed tray this autumn (having scored some of the seeds, if that is
>feasible) and leave them outside unprotected over the winter.
>With luck, you should get a reasonable number of seedlings next
>spring.
>
>There may well be a more reliable method :-)
>
The advice for propagation in a 1950s book I have is to keep the seeds
in damp soil for 18 months and then they will start to sprout in their
second spring. I'll let you know in a few months about this, because we
placed some seeds in a box a year ago and nothing sprouted last spring,
so we are still waiting in hope but they could, of course, all be dead
or rotted :-(
This maybe why the usual advice is to use cuttings!
--
Malcolm
Anton
rams...@my-deja.com wrote in message <8q2rn1$qt9$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>Help please: Does anyone know a method that works so that I can grow
>about 100 hawthorn plants, I'm particularly intrested in propagation by
>cuttings but also can they be grown from seed ie by setting
>the "haws"? Any advice would be much appreciated.
Just a thought- if it's not one particular flavour of hawthorn that you're
trying to propagate, you can buy these from forestry suppliers at I would
guess about £30/ 100
Charlie Pridham
Malcolm <mal...@ogilvie.org> wrote in message
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about different plants! Hawthorn cuttings are all but impossible (says I )
yet several posters suggested that they were really easy, just stick them in
the ground. try some and see! As to seeds remove the fleshy part by soaking
and separating, sow seed, cover with grit and a mesh grill (to keep out
mice) then place in shady spot and wait 1 - 2 years, germination is usually
good. HTH
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
www.users.dialstart.net/~clematis
Malcolm
<clem...@dialstart.net> writes
>
>Malcolm <mal...@ogilvie.org> wrote in message
>news:G0euDsBF...@indaal.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <8q30en$c0j$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>, Nick Maclaren
>> <nm...@cus.cam.ac.uk> writes
>> >In article <8q2rn1$qt9$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, <rams...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> The advice for propagation in a 1950s book I have is to keep the seeds
>> in damp soil for 18 months and then they will start to sprout in their
>> second spring. I'll let you know in a few months about this, because we
>> placed some seeds in a box a year ago and nothing sprouted last spring,
>> so we are still waiting in hope but they could, of course, all be dead
>> or rotted :-(
>>
>> This maybe why the usual advice is to use cuttings!
>>
>> --
>> Malcolm
>Last time this came up I ended up thinking that several of us were talking
>about different plants! Hawthorn cuttings are all but impossible (says I )
>yet several posters suggested that they were really easy, just stick them in
>the ground. try some and see!
There are three doing well in the cuttings factory my wife maintains
behind the greenhouse, but she admits there was a very low success rate.
--
Malcolm
Jill Bell
<mal...@ogilvie.org> writes
>I don't know whether you will get them to germinate in their first year.
>in damp soil for 18 months and then they will start to sprout in their
>second spring.
That's what I was told at a meeting I went to recently. The advice was
to crush the seed and stratify for 16-18 months. Best success if
berries collected and sown as soon as ripe.
Jill
Jill Bell
co.net> writes
>
>Just a thought- if it's not one particular flavour of hawthorn that you're
>trying to propagate, you can buy these from forestry suppliers at I would
>guess about £30/ 100
>
>
growing on plants from local stock is preferable to purchasing plants
that may have come from another area of the country. These plants will
be best adapted to the local environs.
Jill
--
ji...@bellsbarn.demon.co.uk
Anton
Jill Bell wrote in message ...
>>trying to propagate, you can buy these from forestry suppliers at I would
>>guess about £30/ 100
>>
>>
>growing on plants from local stock is preferable to purchasing plants
>that may have come from another area of the country. These plants will
>be best adapted to the local environs.
>
Fair point Jill ;-)
--
Anton
Peter Whincup
<mal...@ogilvie.org> writes
>>> Malcolm
>>Last time this came up I ended up thinking that several of us were talking
>>about different plants! Hawthorn cuttings are all but impossible (says I )
>>yet several posters suggested that they were really easy, just stick them in
>>the ground. try some and see!
>
>There are three doing well in the cuttings factory my wife maintains
>behind the greenhouse, but she admits there was a very low success rate.
n.g. as cuttings they are very difficult and almost impossible to air
layer. Are these the 'cog' Hawthorns or a named variety your wife is
using. Shows how untidy my garden is but at the last count I had about
30 self sown seedlings around and about as many common Holly (Ilex). The
latter from the Holly I used to bring home for Christmas from the site
where I used to work.
Cheers Pete
--
Peter Whincup
Malcolm
<pe...@mapleleaf.demon.co.uk> writes
>>behind the greenhouse, but she admits there was a very low success rate.
>Any details there Malcolm ? I understood from a nurseryman in another
>n.g. as cuttings they are very difficult and almost impossible to air
>layer. Are these the 'cog' Hawthorns or a named variety your wife is
>using. Shows how untidy my garden is but at the last count I had about
>30 self sown seedlings around and about as many common Holly (Ilex). The
>latter from the Holly I used to bring home for Christmas from the site
>where I used to work.
The normal wild variety of Craetagus monogyna, of which we have a small
tree in the garden and my wife was trying to propagate it. Her usual
method with any cuttings is to just snip off some twigs, trim off the
lower leaves and dip the bottom end in hormone rooting powder and then
plant in a pot containing a mixture of our own garden soil and compost
(John Innes but not sure which number), and then forget them for a few
months. Sometimes she snips the top shoot off, sometimes not. She has
tried tying polybags over the pots for some cuttings, but in our often
windy (sometimes very windy) conditions these tend to flap or even blow
off, and she doesn't think she used them for the hawthorn. There's
nothing scientific about her gardening, just green fingers. Things work
for her that don't for me, infuriatingly, as many gardening partners
will have experienced :-)
--
Malcolm
Peter Whincup
>nothing scientific about her gardening, just green fingers. Things work
>for her that don't for me, infuriatingly, as many gardening partners
>will have experienced :-)
garden in an old chalk quarry to be featured on G.W.
Cheers Pete.
--
Peter Whincup
Russell Eberhardt
>Help please: Does anyone know a method that works so that I can grow
>about 100 hawthorn plants, I'm particularly intrested in propagation by
>cuttings but also can they be grown from seed ie by setting
>the "haws"? Any advice would be much appreciated.
In our garden we don't have to propogate hawthorn the birds do it for
us. I think they use seed not cuttings :-)
Russell.
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