attaching trellis to rendered walls

[RosG]

Dear group,

I want to train a tracheospermum around the back door in a container. Please
advise how best toa ffix a trellis onto this rendered wall as I am scared of
causing cracks. I do not know how old the rendering is but I suspect it is
new.

Thanks
Ros

[Mike Crowe]

In article <t66113r...@corp.supernews.co.uk>, RosG
<sgod...@lineone.net> writes

'THE' most important thing here, is to make sure you go right through
the rendering to the brick wall behind and that the plugs to screw into,
go beyond the depth of the rendering and into the brickwork, so that the
rendering is not taking any of the weight for one thing, but more
importantly, the screw as it goes in, is NOT expanding the plug within
the rendering, but within the brick. You may like to drill the hole
through the rendering just a little larger.

This tip also applies when fixing something onto a tiled surface, go
right through to the wall behind with the plug, otherwise the tiles,
like the rendering, crack.

Mike

Michael 'Mike' Crowe
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[Jon Rouse]

RosG wrote in message ...

If its in good condition, try some of those sticky pads with tie-wraps on
them. They seem to stick pretty well to clean stone and render.

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[cormaic]

Twas Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:09:10 +0000, when Mike Crowe
<mi...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk> enriched all our lives with these
words......:

>'THE' most important thing here, is to make sure you go right through
>the rendering to the brick wall behind and that the plugs to screw into,
>go beyond the depth of the rendering and into the brickwork, so that the
>rendering is not taking any of the weight for one thing, but more
>importantly, the screw as it goes in, is NOT expanding the plug within
>the rendering, but within the brick. You may like to drill the hole
>through the rendering just a little larger.
>

Use a small masonry bit (4-6mm) in prime condition (ie, new or
newly sharpened) to drill a pilot hole, and then move up to a 10 or
12mm bit, and, as Cap'n Crowe says, make sure you penetrate to the
actual brickwork, not just the rendering, and use long-shanked
screws/vine eyes.

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[Charlie Pridham]

"cormaic" <to...@SODOFFSPAMcormaic.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Twas Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:09:10 +0000, when Mike Crowe
> <mi...@mikecrowe.demon.co.uk> enriched all our lives with these
> words......:
>
> >'THE' most important thing here, is to make sure you go right through
> >the rendering to the brick wall behind and that the plugs to screw into,
> >go beyond the depth of the rendering and into the brickwork, so that the
> >rendering is not taking any of the weight for one thing, but more
> >importantly, the screw as it goes in, is NOT expanding the plug within
> >the rendering, but within the brick. You may like to drill the hole
> >through the rendering just a little larger.
> >
>
> Use a small masonry bit (4-6mm) in prime condition (ie, new or
> newly sharpened) to drill a pilot hole, and then move up to a 10 or
> 12mm bit, and, as Cap'n Crowe says, make sure you penetrate to the
> actual brickwork, not just the rendering, and use long-shanked
> screws/vine eyes.
>
> --
> cormaic Garden - www.tmac.clara.co.uk/garden/

All good advice - But perhaps worth pointing out that trachelospermum is
self clinging so does not require any trellis. (It glues itself to upright
surfaces, but does not root into wall cracks etc)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.users.dialstart.net/~clematis

[RosG]

Thanks Charlie, absolute music to my ears!! Worth posting my message just
to find that out, and reconfirm I have made the absolute right choice of
plant for that position.
Ros

Charlie Pridham <clem...@dialstart.net> wrote in message
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[RosG]

Thanks guys, as always tip top advice as usual. Will let you know how I get
on
Ros

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[zacharylewis]

New render or even old render will normally drill easily, assuming you hold
the drill smoothly and carefully. If at very worst the render chips it
should only be a little and can be filled easily with rapid drying cement
mix or just about any other exterior filler. Its whats underneath the render
that counts.
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