Jeyes Fluid
V. Ann Buckle
Happy New Year and Good Gardening!
I have thick green slime on a lot of the paving stones in my garden and
would like to get rid of this before someone breaks their neck. Reading
the battered label on a can of Jeyes Fluid indicates that a dilute
solution of this will probably remove the mess but I am worried as to
whether such a strong smelling liquid is going to have adverse effects.
Does anyone know if Jeyes Fluid breaks down harmlessly?
Or does anyone have a recipe for getting Cotswold type sandstone paving
clean?
Ann
--
V. Ann Buckle
Sam Brookes
In article <sPp7WBAl...@buckle.demon.co.uk>, "V. Ann Buckle"
<va...@buckle.demon.co.uk> writes
>Does anyone know if Jeyes Fluid breaks down harmlessly?
>
>Or does anyone have a recipe for getting Cotswold type sandstone paving
>clean?
I dont know about Jeyes fluid for the cleaning process, but I have used
a pressure water jet most effectively for cleaning concrete/stone.
not that I own such a machine, when I need one I hire it for a day from
a toolhire shop. The effect is almost magical.
It is a year or two since I did this and then it cost, as I remember,
was 15.00 UK pounds.
If you want to cut the cost you can suggest to a similaly inflicted
neighbour that perhaps he would like to pay half and use the thing on
the same day.
--
Sam Brookes
Alan Gould
>
>I have thick green slime on a lot of the paving stones in my garden and
>would like to get rid of this before someone breaks their neck. Reading
>the battered label on a can of Jeyes Fluid indicates that a dilute
>solution of this will probably remove the mess but I am worried as to
>whether such a strong smelling liquid is going to have adverse effects.
>
>
>Or does anyone have a recipe for getting Cotswold type sandstone paving
>clean?
Happy New Year to you too!
That 'green slime' sounds more like algae or moss. It should scrape off
fairly easily with a spade, which won't put any other plants at risk.
It's going to come back again whatever you do.
--
Alan and Joan Gould | al...@agolincs.demon.co.uk
Tracey Greenwood
Happy New Year Ann (and everyone else in the group)
I have used a diluted mixture of Jeyes Fluid for removing green
slime/algae/moss from the paths around our house - it worked brilliantly
and is one area where the slime has not dared to raise it's ugly head
again. However, I only used it there because the area is self-contained
and there is no chance of it leeching into the soil.
On the other paths I have tried a multitude of mixtures and concoctions,
starting with the organic ones and eventually caving in to chemicals.
Nothing has worked anywhere near as well as the Jeyes, which suggests
that it probably is toxic in the extreme and won't break down at all.
Being disabled it's an on-going problem I have because I slip so easily
on any green stuff on the paths, particularly as it's always so wet up
here. I'd welcome any organic solutions which last longer than 3-4
weeks, because I've been unable to find them until now. Unfortunately a
broom alone won't do it because the paths are tarmac rather than stone
and the rough surface allows the moss to get a really good hold.
Tracey
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V. Ann Buckle wrote:
>
> Happy New Year and Good Gardening!
>
> I have thick green slime on a lot of the paving stones in my garden and
> would like to get rid of this before someone breaks their neck. Reading
> the battered label on a can of Jeyes Fluid indicates that a dilute
> solution of this will probably remove the mess but I am worried as to
> whether such a strong smelling liquid is going to have adverse effects.
>
> Does anyone know if Jeyes Fluid breaks down harmlessly?
>
> Or does anyone have a recipe for getting Cotswold type sandstone paving
> clean?
>
> --
> V. Ann Buckle
clear it up. You need to be careful though or it will burn plants /
grass nearby. In our case the path bordered the lawn and we managed to
clean it up carefully without any real problems.
spooky
V. Ann Buckle wrote in message ...
>Happy New Year and Good Gardening!
>
>I have thick green slime on a lot of the paving stones in my garden and
>would like to get rid of this before someone breaks their neck.
If you need to burn of some Christmas calories:
Take a bucket of hot water
Add one hard wire broom
Mix with lots of elbow grease!
Happy new year
Jenny
Alan Bancroft
You need to buy/hire a pressure washer, you don't need any chemicals
as plain old water will do the job - no problem.
June Hughes
In article <68lk4r$l3...@reader2.wxs.nl>, spooky <spoo...@wxs.nl> writes
Better still, get someone else to do it.
--
June Hughes What is now proved was
once only imagined.
Blake.
Rick Pardoe
> Does anyone know if Jeyes Fluid breaks down harmlessly?
>
Years ago I read an article that said that it actaully breaks down into
benefical constituants for the garden. Ever since I have used it each year
for sterilising my compost for use as seed compost. I water the compost with
diluted Jeyes fluid and leave it for two weeks before planting the seeds, by
which time the disinfectant effect has worn off. The seedlings I get by this
method are every bit as good as those grown in purchased compost and so I
assume the original advice was correct.
Rick
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Wilh. C. Boot
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:05:20 +0100, "spooky" <spoo...@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>V. Ann Buckle wrote in message ...
>>Happy New Year and Good Gardening!
>>
>>I have thick green slime on a lot of the paving stones in my garden and
>>would like to get rid of this before someone breaks their neck.
>
>If you need to burn of some Christmas calories:
>Take a bucket of hot water
>Add one hard wire broom
>Mix with lots of elbow grease!
>Happy new year
>Jenny
>
>
This works in Holland: lots of elbow grease mixed with dry sharp sand
and a wire broom. Shrub stones daily for a week with sand preferably
when weather is dry and all the greenish plaque will be gone.
Dentist will not recommend this for teeth.
Willemien
June Hughes
In article <34b8c049...@news.xs4all.nl>, "Wilh. C. Boot"
<wb...@xs4all.nl> writes
>>
>This works in Holland: lots of elbow grease mixed with dry sharp sand
>and a wire broom. Shrub stones daily for a week with sand preferably
>when weather is dry and all the greenish plaque will be gone.
>Dentist will not recommend this for teeth.
>Willemien
<g>
Joan
And you're never short of sand in Holland! When I was there the soil
in the garden was mainly sand. It was great for weeding. You just
drove your fingers down into the soil (I could get nearly up to my
elbow) and pulled up whole dandelion roots. Not a bit like the
plasticine I have back in the UK!
Joan
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:54:35 GMT, wb...@xs4all.nl (Wilh. C. Boot)
wrote:
>On Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:05:20 +0100, "spooky" <spoo...@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>>
>>V. Ann Buckle wrote in message ...
>>>Happy New Year and Good Gardening!
>>>
>>>I have thick green slime on a lot of the paving stones in my garden and
>>>would like to get rid of this before someone breaks their neck.
>>
>>If you need to burn of some Christmas calories:
>>Take a bucket of hot water
>>Add one hard wire broom
>>Mix with lots of elbow grease!
>>Happy new year
>>Jenny
>>
>>
John Clegg
I found the best method to remove green slime and algae from paving stones
in my garden was to spread TESCO value bleach evenly over them and then
scrub with hot water using a deck scrubbing brush and rinse well.
Oddly expensive thick bleach doesn't work nearly as well.
John
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David
In article <34bc4968....@read.news.global.net.uk>, Joan
<jo...@rileyk.globalnet.co.uk> writes
>And you're never short of sand in Holland! When I was there the soil
>in the garden was mainly sand. It was great for weeding. You just
>drove your fingers down into the soil (I could get nearly up to my
>elbow) and pulled up whole dandelion roots. Not a bit like the
>plasticine I have back in the UK!
>Joan
VAM near Apeldoorn. And they are a bit less particular what they use for
the farmland as well. I believe they use sewage sludge.
--
David Sinfield (Surrey, UK)
Not clever enough to make up a sig
and too proud to steal one.
cormaic
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:06:18 GMT, John Clegg <jcl...@argonet.co.uk>
wrote:
>I found the best method to remove green slime and algae from paving stones
>in my garden was to spread TESCO value bleach evenly over them and then
>scrub with hot water using a deck scrubbing brush and rinse well.
>Oddly expensive thick bleach doesn't work nearly as well.
>
Be careful, John. Some of the cheaper pavings will be
discoloured by bleach. Ok if they're just plain concrete grey, or
"natural" as they call it, but be careful on colured paving, esp. reds
and buffs.
A power washer directed at a shallow angle is what we use and
recommend at work. We have a nice little side-line at the start of the
warm weather as everyone wants their patio/block paving spruced up for
the new season. Plenty beer vouchers!
HTH
--
cormaic
Culcheth (N.Ches. Was S. Lancs)
cormaic at tmac dot clara dot net
Jonathan Green
There's an advert in this months Garden Answers magazine for a product
called Armillatox which claims it can eradicate moss from paths, patios,
tiles,lawns (!!!), roofs, glass, asphalt and asbestos. According to the
advert it is based on natural tar acids and boasts no rubbing,scrubbing,
just wet and forget. You can contact them on Tel (01773) 590566 Fax
(01733) 590681 and e-mail armil...@armillatox.co.uk.
I'd also like to mention that I have not used the product and do nor
represent the company, I just saw the ad in the mag and thought a few
people might find it useful :-)
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cormaic
>
>There's an advert in this months Garden Answers magazine for a product
>called Armillatox which claims it can eradicate moss from paths, patios,
>tiles,lawns (!!!), roofs, glass, asphalt and asbestos. According to the
>advert it is based on natural tar acids and boasts no rubbing,scrubbing,
>just wet and forget. You can contact them on Tel (01773) 590566 Fax
>(01733) 590681 and e-mail armil...@armillatox.co.uk.
>
>I'd also like to mention that I have not used the product and do nor
>represent the company, I just saw the ad in the mag and thought a few
>people might find it useful :-)
I use Armillatox, it's one of the few 'chemicals' I allow into
my garden. Used primarily to eradicate Earthball fungi (Scleroderma
Citrinum) from my patch of lawn. I've tried digging the horrible
things out, but they kept re-appearing, overnight sometimes, as if by
magic. On late summer mornings, the smell of them would hit you like a
HGV as you stepped into the garden.
Someone told me that they had used it v.successfully against
Honey Fungus, so, in my desparation, I gave it a try. The container it
comes in has one of those little measuring chambers fitted to the top,
for measuring 10ml, IIRC, and I add 2 measures to 5 litres water, and
apply to an area of about 3 m2.
It certainly gets rid of the fungi, which then move on to some
untreated patch and ruin that :-(
I LOATHE any form of fungi. They smell foetid to me. I retch
when I have tried to eat them. Mrs Taz (my partner) loves them, but is
not allowed to fry them for the Sunday Big-Pig Breakfast, until I am
fed and watered and out of the house. YUK!
A border bed was "infected" by this Earthball fungi last
summer, and really spoiled my enjoyment of some wonderfully scented
flowers therein. I resorted to digging up the entire bed, and
screening out every last bit of the damn things, which I can trace by
smell alone. They seem to travel along shallow rootlets of the big Oak
at the bottom of the garden, as the pre-fruiting stage is found as
white cottony nodules along the root system. Once the bed was dug over
and fungi removed, I saturated the soil with a 50ml/5l solution of
Armillatox, and am hoping that will have done the trick.
Also used for sterilising pots, and as a winter wash for the
cotoneaster, honeysuckle etc. A tiny booklet comes with each bottle,
and there would seem to be no limit to its potential, though I can't
recall all of its alleged "powers".
I allowed it onto my 'green' list of ok garden chemicals on
the basis that it is made from natural tars and oils,. but then again,
a lot of things on the 'red' list are derived from a natural source.
--
Tony McC.
Alan J Holmes
In article <P8uLaCAt...@sinfield.demon.co.uk>,
David <da...@sinfield.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <34bc4968....@read.news.global.net.uk>, Joan
><jo...@rileyk.globalnet.co.uk> writes
>>And you're never short of sand in Holland! When I was there the soil
>>in the garden was mainly sand. It was great for weeding. You just
>>drove your fingers down into the soil (I could get nearly up to my
>>elbow) and pulled up whole dandelion roots. Not a bit like the
>>plasticine I have back in the UK!
>That's why they have Green Bins for organic waste and huge composters at
>VAM near Apeldoorn. And they are a bit less particular what they use for
>the farmland as well. I believe they use sewage sludge.
Slough sewage farms sell sewage sludge under the name Cinagro!
Try reading it backwards!
--
Alan G4CRW, Ex FAA, RNARS and others! What an exciting life I lead!(:-)
Alan Gould
In article <69nsc1$4...@loki.brunel.ac.uk>, Alan J Holmes
<Alan....@brunel.ac.uk> writes
>Slough sewage farms sell sewage sludge under the name Cinagro!
>
>Try reading it backwards!
>
It's an anagram of "I carn go"
--
Alan Gould | al...@agolincs.demon.co.uk
David
In article <7DPhfMAd...@agolincs.demon.co.uk>, Alan Gould
<agol...@agolincs.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <69nsc1$4...@loki.brunel.ac.uk>, Alan J Holmes
><Alan....@brunel.ac.uk> writes
>
>>Slough sewage farms sell sewage sludge under the name Cinagro!
>>
>>Try reading it backwards!
>>
>It's an anagram of "I carn go"
Jane Ransom
In article <GH$5EGARz...@sinfield.demon.co.uk>, David
<Da...@sinfield.demon.co.uk> writes
>>, Alan J Holmes
>><Alan....@brunel.ac.uk> writes
>>
>>>Slough sewage farms sell sewage sludge under the name Cinagro!
>>>
>>>Try reading it backwards!
>>>
>>It's an anagram of "I carn go"
>I got "no cigar" but this is getting very silly :)
But it's soooooh flippin soggy and miserable outside in the
garden that it helps to cheer us up :))
--
Jane Ransom in Lancaster.
Paul Mc Cann
In article <GH$5EGARz...@sinfield.demon.co.uk>,
Da...@sinfield.demon.co.uk says...> >In article <69nsc1$4...@loki.brunel.ac.uk>, Alan J Holmes
> ><Alan....@brunel.ac.uk> writes
> >
> >>Slough sewage farms sell sewage sludge under the name Cinagro!
> >>
> >>Try reading it backwards!
> >>
> >It's an anagram of "I carn go"
> I got "no cigar" but this is getting very silly :)
> David Sinfield (Surrey, UK)
> Not clever enough to make up a sig
> and too proud to steal one.
>
poster has dyslexic fingers like myself
--
Paul Mc Cann
Its not that I kant spel just that I kant tipe
Alan Gould
In article <e3e+BgB6...@mearsgyl.demon.co.uk>, Jane Ransom
<ran...@mearsgyl.demon.co.uk> writes
>But it's soooooh flippin soggy and miserable outside in the
>garden that it helps to cheer us up :))
>
We heard the weather forecast at 7am (Monday) and I said to Joan, "It
sounds like an indoor day today". But after breakfast the sun was
shining, so I togged up and grabbed the chance to do some clearing and
tidying for an hour or so. It was very pleasant and it set me up for the
day. It is rather soggy underfoot, for the first time in three or four
years, but it's still possible to get around.
Our natural - and naturalised, pond is as high now as we've seen it for
several years. It will drop again with a few dry days, but I'm hoping
that the soil will soak up some of the excess before then. It's only the
top inch or two which are really wet - and soggy. Below that, down to
the water strata, the undersoil is still lacking it's water reserve.
Cheer up Jane, each day now is one less day of winter left.
cormaic
>We heard the weather forecast at 7am (Monday) and I said to Joan, "It
>sounds like an indoor day today". But after breakfast the sun was
>shining, so I togged up and grabbed the chance to do some clearing and
>tidying for an hour or so. It was very pleasant and it set me up for the
>day. It is rather soggy underfoot, for the first time in three or four
>years, but it's still possible to get around.
One of the advantages of the 'nature reserve' at the bottom of
my garden is that all the ground water drains into the old railway
cutting to be carried away by the trackside ditch. The soil is only
400-500mm thick in the garden before another 500mm of subsoil and then
4 - 8 metres of boulder clay. The whole village is an island of clay
in a sea of mossland.
Consequently, the garden can become very parched in high
summer and I have had to water certain sections of the lawn, where the
soil cover is thinner and the grass gets no shade from the Oak, to
keep the grass alive over the last 2 or 3 seasons.
Last season, I redug 3 of the beds to full depth (500mm) and
incorporated 30 per cent compost by volume, in the hope that this will
improve moisture retention without causing sogginess. A lot of the
clayey (sp?) subsoil that was brought to the surface in the process of
thgis re-digging, has been battered by the heavy rains and dispersed
among the better soil and compost. I was thinning the Love-in-a-mist
seedlings this morning (bitter, cold, thin wind), and stuck my bare
paw into the soil to see just how wet it was. The soil is bl##dy cold,
but is draining well, and still has a light, airy texture about it.
Can't wait to start working it again, come March!
Alan J Holmes
In article <34c9cc4a...@news.clara.net>,
cormaic <tm...@NOSPAMTODAYTHANKSclara.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:16:47 +0000, Alan Gould
><agol...@agolincs.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>We heard the weather forecast at 7am (Monday) and I said to Joan, "It
>>sounds like an indoor day today". But after breakfast the sun was
>>shining, so I togged up and grabbed the chance to do some clearing and
>>tidying for an hour or so. It was very pleasant and it set me up for the
>>day. It is rather soggy underfoot, for the first time in three or four
>>years, but it's still possible to get around.
> One of the advantages of the 'nature reserve' at the bottom of
>my garden is that all the ground water drains into the old railway
>cutting to be carried away by the trackside ditch. The soil is only
>400-500mm thick in the garden before another 500mm of subsoil and then
>4 - 8 metres of boulder clay. The whole village is an island of clay
>in a sea of mossland.
> Consequently, the garden can become very parched in high
>summer and I have had to water certain sections of the lawn, where the
>soil cover is thinner and the grass gets no shade from the Oak, to
>keep the grass alive over the last 2 or 3 seasons.
There's no absolute need to keep grass alive, it may die back,
but with the first shower it will start to grow again.
cormaic
On 23 Jan 1998 15:00:11 -0000, Alan....@brunel.ac.uk (Alan J
Holmes) wrote:
My original quote...
> > Consequently, the garden can become very parched in high
> >summer and I have had to water certain sections of the lawn, where the
> >soil cover is thinner and the grass gets no shade from the Oak, to
> >keep the grass alive over the last 2 or 3 seasons.
>
>There's no absolute need to keep grass alive, it may die back,
>but with the first shower it will start to grow again.
'Fraid not. That's how I lost my first lawn. When I first
moved in here, the back garden was an absolute nightmare. The previous
occupants had been one of the local ne'er-do-well families, who
virtually trashed the house and the garden, defaulted on the mortgage,
and were booted out.
The back garden was completely covered with crazy paving (only
crazy people would have it!) with neat cement brushed over the top and
allowed to dry to a blinding shade of white. I was concerned that the
'patio' was only 25mm below dpc (it should be 150mm min), so I set
about ripping up the crazy paving. Guess what was underneath the crazy
paving? More crazy paving. And beneath that, even more crazy paving!
Over the entire garden, 3 layers, some 200mm all told, of crazy
paving, laid on top of soil and clay and rubble and cinders and broken
tiles/glass etc.
Excavate and cart away the lot. Clay boundary is now at
surface in one part of garden. Not to worry, it's beneath the proposed
kiddies swing, which I can anchor to it, and rip the lot out when
Pester Girl is too big for the swing. Swing becomes main attraction
for every snotty-nosed kid in the village, and the garden is getting
ruined. Remove swing on grounds of 'Safety'. Pester Girl hates me for
2 days and then forgets.
Time is mid-spring. Very busy at work, 12 hour days, 7 day
weeks, making hay whilst the sun shines as they say, no time to rip up
clay. Meanwhile, back on-site, we are to dig up part of a bowling
green to extend a patio. Ample turf to be salvaged for new lawn,
methinks. Lay 100mm decent topsoil over clay. Lay turf on soil,
compact, water, stand back, admire, quaff pint.
Turf does remarkably well over first season, and looks verdant
and lush the following spring. Hot summer follows. Mrs Taz and the
reichskinder demand a holiday. Take 2 weeks off to visit the family in
Ireland and grab a few days with some Cornish friends in Bude. Return
from hols, lawn dead! Baked to death. Despite hose ban, apply copious
amounts of water to no avail :~(
Reduce clay boundary by 100mm, replace topsoil and lay new
lawn spring 96. Love and nurture all year. Looks a treat. Summer 97,
notice distinct yellowing and drying of grass over same area again.
Not wishing to risk losing another lawn, (how careless can one get?) I
now water said patch every other evening in the hot,dry weather!
I only have 24 m2 of lawn, and if 12 m2 is parched and dying,
I get no pleasure from it, just worry. It spoils the rest of the
garden if half the lawn is dessicated while everywhere else is, touch
chipboard, lush and green.
Alan J Holmes
In article <34d209d3...@news.clara.net>,
cormaic <tm...@NOSPAMTODAYTHANKSclara.net> wrote:
>On 23 Jan 1998 15:00:11 -0000, Alan....@brunel.ac.uk (Alan J
>Holmes) wrote:
> My original quote...
>> > Consequently, the garden can become very parched in high
>> >summer and I have had to water certain sections of the lawn, where the
>> >soil cover is thinner and the grass gets no shade from the Oak, to
>> >keep the grass alive over the last 2 or 3 seasons.
>>There's no absolute need to keep grass alive, it may die back,
>>but with the first shower it will start to grow again.
> 'Fraid not. That's how I lost my first lawn. When I first
>moved in here, the back garden was an absolute nightmare. The previous
>occupants had been one of the local ne'er-do-well families, who
>virtually trashed the house and the garden, defaulted on the mortgage,
>and were booted out.
Curious, my grass seems to die practically _every_ year, then at
the first shower it's back again.