Re: ? Allergic reaction
mogga
<judith...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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>I have never been able to touch Juniper without coming out in a
>painful rash, now it seems i can no longer even brush up against the
>tomato plants without a rash spreading, not just on the point of
>impact, but also up my arms. Squash, cucumber, melon and courgette
>also are making this time of year pretty difficult for me, as soon as
>I pick one, the rash starts, even though I am pretty careful not to
>touch the leaves. This morning I was tying up some tall Hollyhocks
>and now I am sitting here with the same rash on both arms and it is
>pretty severe, my fingers in particular are itching like crazy!!!
>
>My husband says it is the fine hairs on the plants that is causing the
>rash, but why then do I come out in a rash on an arm or leg that
>hasn't touched the plant? It is actually daunting to go into the
>greenhouse as I know I will be itching within minutes. Does anyone
>have an idea what has triggered this reaction?
Do gloves help?
Sounds horrid.
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Jeff Layman
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> I have never been able to touch Juniper without coming out in a
> painful rash, now it seems i can no longer even brush up against the
> tomato plants without a rash spreading, not just on the point of
> impact, but also up my arms. Squash, cucumber, melon and courgette
> also are making this time of year pretty difficult for me, as soon as
> I pick one, the rash starts, even though I am pretty careful not to
> touch the leaves. This morning I was tying up some tall Hollyhocks
> and now I am sitting here with the same rash on both arms and it is
> pretty severe, my fingers in particular are itching like crazy!!!
>
> My husband says it is the fine hairs on the plants that is causing the
> rash, but why then do I come out in a rash on an arm or leg that
> hasn't touched the plant? It is actually daunting to go into the
> greenhouse as I know I will be itching within minutes. Does anyone
> have an idea what has triggered this reaction?
You have such a widespread group of plants apparently responsible for this
allergy that it seems unlikely to be purely plant-related. Has there been
any insecticide or fungicide drift from agricultural spraying nearby, that
could also have penetrated the greenhouse, and to which you are sensitive?
Since the reaction seems to be systemic as well as local, I would recommend
a visit to a doctor who would assess your condition and maybe recommend
further investigation, perhaps by a specialist.
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David in Normandy
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> I have never been able to touch Juniper without coming out in a
> painful rash, now it seems i can no longer even brush up against the
> tomato plants without a rash spreading, not just on the point of
> impact, but also up my arms. Squash, cucumber, melon and courgette
> also are making this time of year pretty difficult for me, as soon as
> I pick one, the rash starts, even though I am pretty careful not to
> touch the leaves. This morning I was tying up some tall Hollyhocks
> and now I am sitting here with the same rash on both arms and it is
> pretty severe, my fingers in particular are itching like crazy!!!
>
> My husband says it is the fine hairs on the plants that is causing the
> rash, but why then do I come out in a rash on an arm or leg that
> hasn't touched the plant? It is actually daunting to go into the
> greenhouse as I know I will be itching within minutes. Does anyone
> have an idea what has triggered this reaction?
I have a similar reaction to conifer foliage, courgette leaves and
runner bean leaves. Don't know the cause.
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Bob Hobden
"David in Normandy" wrote
Judith in France wrote:
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>> I have never been able to touch Juniper without coming out in a
>> painful rash, now it seems i can no longer even brush up against the
>> tomato plants without a rash spreading, not just on the point of
>> impact, but also up my arms. Squash, cucumber, melon and courgette
>> also are making this time of year pretty difficult for me, as soon as
>> I pick one, the rash starts, even though I am pretty careful not to
>> touch the leaves. This morning I was tying up some tall Hollyhocks
>> and now I am sitting here with the same rash on both arms and it is
>> pretty severe, my fingers in particular are itching like crazy!!!
>>
>> My husband says it is the fine hairs on the plants that is causing the
>> rash, but why then do I come out in a rash on an arm or leg that
>> hasn't touched the plant? It is actually daunting to go into the
>> greenhouse as I know I will be itching within minutes. Does anyone
>> have an idea what has triggered this reaction?
>
> I have a similar reaction to conifer foliage, courgette leaves and runner
> bean leaves. Don't know the cause.
>
I have a reaction to conifers if I brush against them but luckily that is
all, Sue comes out in a nasty itchy rash up her arms if she picks runner
beans etc and also if she rubs against cucurbits. I have suggested she
ensure she is wearing something to cover her arms, cut the arms off an old
sweatshirt and fit elastic to keep them up and keep those down the
allotment.
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>>I have never been able to touch Juniper without coming out in a
>>painful rash,
Consumed or rubbed on?
vi...@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk
> I have a similar reaction to conifer foliage, courgette leaves and
> runner bean leaves. Don't know the cause.
I get the same with runner bean leaves too. Courgettes do cause a problem,
but they are kind of hairy, so that is not unexpected. The hop plant by our
back gate is the one I keep threatening to burn down, as it scratches all up
my arm as I pass and causes a lot of itchy pain!
Jake
<judith...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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>I have never been able to touch Juniper without coming out in a
>painful rash, now it seems i can no longer even brush up against the
>tomato plants without a rash spreading, not just on the point of
>impact, but also up my arms. Squash, cucumber, melon and courgette
>also are making this time of year pretty difficult for me, as soon as
>I pick one, the rash starts, even though I am pretty careful not to
>touch the leaves. This morning I was tying up some tall Hollyhocks
>and now I am sitting here with the same rash on both arms and it is
>pretty severe, my fingers in particular are itching like crazy!!!
>
>My husband says it is the fine hairs on the plants that is causing the
>rash, but why then do I come out in a rash on an arm or leg that
>hasn't touched the plant? It is actually daunting to go into the
>greenhouse as I know I will be itching within minutes. Does anyone
>have an idea what has triggered this reaction?
I've grown into and out of allergies through my life and don't know
why or how. As a toddler, I reacted (I'm told) to anything in the
primrose group so badly as to require hospital treatment. In teens I
developed hay fever, now grown out of that. I'm now allergic to
conifers, or more correctly conifer sap, controlled with a steroid
cream (all-over clothing always lets a few little bits thru!) when I
have to shear the hedges.
But in my late 20s I came out in some massive all over the body rash
which was ultimately traced to an allergy to fungi (after I'd been
treated repeatedly for scabies, would you believe, for a year!!!). So
I stopped eating mushrooms and anything containing them. But it went
on and after lots more tests, and after a total of three years, the
actual allergy was traced to hypersensitivity to some chemical
regularly used in commercial mushroom growing to stop something or
other (I've now forgotten the details). I've been advised not only to
avoid mushrooms but also spent mushroom compost. I occasionally burst
into rash when I put my hands into bags of compost but I've learned to
avoid certain brands where the incidence rate is virtually 100%.
Are your problems something similar - not actually allergic to the
plant as such but to something that the plant absorbs, and maybe
secretes, from its growing medium?
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wrote:
>I have a reaction to conifers if I brush against them
Tell me about it.
My arms come up in big red blotches if I cut the grass too near my
conifers
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Jill Bell
The bamboo plants at the nursery I used to work at had the same effect -
I could only work with them if i'd got gloves and long sleeves on.
Bob Hobden
"Judith in France" wrote
"Bob Hobden" wrote:
>
>> I have a reaction to conifers if I brush against them but luckily that is
>> all, Sue comes out in a nasty itchy rash up her arms if she picks runner
>> beans etc and also if she rubs against cucurbits. I have suggested she
>> ensure she is wearing something to cover her arms, cut the arms off an
>> old
>> sweatshirt and fit elastic to keep them up and keep those down the
>> allotment.
>>
>
> I will take that advice Bob and pull over a long sleeved blouse when I
> am touching this stuff.
A blouse should work with beans etc but I'm not sure with cucurbits, they
have long spines so something more substantial may be required.
Spider
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> wrote:
>> On 23/08/2010 13:56, Judith in France wrote:
>>
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>>> I have never been able to touch Juniper without coming out in a
>>> painful rash, now it seems i can no longer even brush up against the
>>> tomato plants without a rash spreading, not just on the point of
>>> impact, but also up my arms. Squash, cucumber, melon and courgette
>>> also are making this time of year pretty difficult for me, as soon as
>>> I pick one, the rash starts, even though I am pretty careful not to
>>> touch the leaves. This morning I was tying up some tall Hollyhocks
>>> and now I am sitting here with the same rash on both arms and it is
>>> pretty severe, my fingers in particular are itching like crazy!!!
>>
>>> My husband says it is the fine hairs on the plants that is causing the
>>> rash, but why then do I come out in a rash on an arm or leg that
>>> hasn't touched the plant? It is actually daunting to go into the
>>> greenhouse as I know I will be itching within minutes. Does anyone
>>> have an idea what has triggered this reaction?
>>
>> I have a similar reaction to conifer foliage, courgette leaves and
>> runner bean leaves. Don't know the cause.
>>
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> I'm told that one can get sensitive to stuff for no reason, I picked 2
> courgettes today and ensured I touched nothing. Or so I thought, just
> a touch around my wrist started it off again.
I have read (on the Web, I think) that Junipers not only cause allergic
dermatitis, but may be responsible for generating more fierce forms of
contact dermatitis in particularly susceptible people. If so, you may
have contact over-dosed on Junipers over the years and inflicted this
worsened problem upon yourself :~(. I am generally atopic and also
react (mildly) to Junipers, so I'm going to be very careful in gardens
and GCs after reading your post.
I think you need to talk to your doctor friend. Home medicating without
proper guidance may make your problem worse. I hope he can offer you
something to soothe your skin.
Good luck.
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Spider
from high ground in SE London
gardening on clay
Phil Gurr
> have long spines so something more substantial may be required.
>
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> Regards
> Bob Hobden
Get yourself a pair of beekeeping gloves, only about £12
<http://www.thorne.co.uk> and protection right up to the elbows.
Phil
Bill Grey
"Judith in France" <judith...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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As these plants grow in different areas, with different soil it would
be difficult to put it down to the growing medium, also we have land
opposite the house where we grow all our potatoes, brassicas and some
courgettes. It seems I have always been sensitive to a few things in
the garden, but now I have become hypersensitive to another few.
Still it won't deter my enjoyment of gardening.
What happens if you touch courgettes or such like in a Supermarket? Do you
still have these allergic rections?
The only sensible answers you've recevied so far ar those suggesting wearing
long gloves, and seeking medical advice. The latter being the best long
term solution.
Bill