I'm loathe to fence the whole garden in but I don't see what else I can do!
When it doesn't foul our garden, it goes to another one but not to the
scruffy overgrown one next door to us but further down the street. I don't
know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much as it
would for extra fencing.
Apologies for the long post but getting fed up with it and any
advice/suggestions appreciated.
Yes they do, very well. Very very well. Just move it about a bit over a
couple of weeks
>
> Apologies for the long post but getting fed up with it and any
> advice/suggestions appreciated.
>
>
You will be told by the owners that this subject has been done to death and
you should look up the archives before posting and don't do it again :-((
Ignore them :-))
Mike
Vermin free garden thanks to an electronic vermin gismo :-))))
web cam.
>
> I'm loathe to fence the whole garden in but I don't see what else I can
> do! When it doesn't foul our garden, it goes to another one but not to the
> scruffy overgrown one next door to us but further down the street. I
> don't know if ultrasonic devices will work but these cost almost as much
> as it would for extra fencing.
>
Extra fencing for £25? bargain, go for it.
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Spray the area with an Aluminium Ammonium Sulphate solution. it's 10.4g/L.
(You can buy it in the shops I think it's called animal repellent).
Keeps most animals at bay and works great for rabbit damage.
cheers
Davy
"Moon~Shadow" <Moon~Sha...@ITpersian1995.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Ignore them :-)) '
There are no owners of this newsgroup, it is a public one and
unmoderated, but there are a number of FAQs and one is to do with cats
and dogs, can't remember how to access them, but someone will. However,
neither you, nor the council, nor the owners of the cats can do, or be
forced to do anything about the cat mess. Cats are classed as 'wild'
animals, and as such are subject to no laws or bye-laws. Dogs are a
different mattter and owners are responsible.
Mike
and as vermin can be shot, skinned, cooked and eaten. Tastes like Rabbit
Mike
When my new nighbours dog crapped on my parking area I gathered the crap up
in a bag and took it round to them ..havent seen the dog in the road since
:-)
None of the smelly methods worked. Nylon mesh was dug up. All I did get to
work was chilli powder, but you have to replace it when it rains, and it
looks like you have martian soil around your garden.
Bob
Christian Koch, 55, from the eastern county of Saxony, told Bild newspaper
that his organic diesel fuel -- a home-made blend of garbage, run-over cats,
and other ingredients -- is a proven alternative to normal consumer diesel.
"I drive my normal diesel-powered car with this mixture," Koch said. "I have
gone 170,000 km (106,000 miles) without
a problem."
The website of Koch's firm, "Alphakat GmbH", says his patented "KDV 500"
machine can produce what he calls the "bio-diesel" fuel at about 23 euro
cents (30 cents) a litre, which is about one-fifth the price at petrol
stations now.
Koch said around 20 dead cats added into the mix could help produce enough
fuel to fill up a 50-litre (11 gallon) tank.
But the president of the German Society for the Protection of Animals,
Wolfgang Apel, said using dead cats for fuel was illegal.
"There's no danger for cats and dogs in Germany because this practice is
outlawed in Germany," Apel told Bild on Wednesday in a story entitled "Can
you really make fuel out of cats?"
"We're going to keep an eye on this case," Apel said.
"Moon~Shadow" <Moon~Sha...@ITpersian1995.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Bob
Like it!
Or you could always kick said dog up the arse. Just the once like.
Bob
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in their defence there is not a lot your neighbours can do to stop their cat
(speaking as a cat owner here :) ). Also a fence will not work. The cat
will just climb it. The best things to try are water attempt to drench teh
cat with jugs, water pistols, a hose etc, preferably when they can't see
you. this usually works. The other thing I've found works in pepper dust.
Hayley
Won't help with the cats though, cats can scale very tall fences.
Alan
> Won't help with the cats though, cats can scale very tall fences.
>
> Alan
I'm only talking of one cat and it is very overweight and so lazy I don't
think it can even jump a fence!
Only the once if you put carpet gripper strips along the top :-)))
Mike
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David
Mike
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=define%3Avermin&meta=
They are filthy, destructive and troublesome. Sounds like vermin to me.
Bob
Yes, the owners don't like it because I speak my mind :-)) They are unable
to 'Rule' over me. Tough.
> I agree with you but it
> is annoying to have neighbours' cats in the garden. As well as a water
> pistol, I would recommend anyone with problems to get a cat of their
> own. That should keep out the neighbouring moggies. As you say, we have
> been through this before - many, many times over the years.
and it just goes to show what a nuisance the vermin is. Those who own the
damn things can see no wrong in their stupid creatures and think that the
sun shines from somewhere it doesn't. But the thing that puzzles me about
such owners, is why do they have more than one? Nearly all of them have
multiple creatures. I suppose it is so they can annoy more neighbours. If
their creatures are inconsiderate, then it must be a reflection on their
'owners', also inconsiderate.
Watch the owners of this newsgroup spit fire now :-)))))))))))
Mike
owners?????
Those who feel that they have more right than anyone else, and carry out
long pally pally chit chat with their friends, which could quite easily go
to email, but no, we have to show we have been here a long time and have
more rights than anyone else :-(( not.
Stick around and they will pop up and take a shot at me, EVEN THOUGH THEY
HAVE KILLFILED ME :-)))) NOT
Mike
:-))))))
I never use other names.
I am me. :-))
Take me or leave me.
What you see, is what you get.
A very large circle of friends are happy with me, only the poor owners who I
refuse to bow to have a problem, but that is THEIR problem :-))
:-))
Mike
I've just [past two months] tried Silent Roar - bought from the local
garden centre - which is, effectively, lion shite. I don't know how they
know, but wee domestic moggies, seemingly, don't like the thought of
bumping into a lion, even under the cover of darkness! :)
Its worked well in the back garden, but the front will be a good test
too. I only have a couple of relatively small beds within a large
grassed area [shared with next door] out there, and the constant piling
up of the bark mulch that greets me most mornings' means the lions will
soon be let loose.
Now... About these damned moles... Who clearly aren't afraid of the odd,
rogue lion!!! : 7
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South West: UK
>> I agree with you but it
>> is annoying to have neighbours' cats in the garden. As well as a water
>> pistol, I would recommend anyone with problems to get a cat of their
>> own. That should keep out the neighbouring moggies. As you say, we have
>> been through this before - many, many times over the years.
>
>and it just goes to show what a nuisance the vermin is. Those who own the
>damn things can see no wrong in their stupid creatures and think that the
>sun shines from somewhere it doesn't. But the thing that puzzles me about
>such owners, is why do they have more than one? Nearly all of them have
>multiple creatures. I suppose it is so they can annoy more neighbours. If
>their creatures are inconsiderate, then it must be a reflection on their
>'owners', also inconsiderate.
>
>Watch the owners of this newsgroup spit fire now :-)))))))))))
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
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Oh!! Someone else who doesn't like me saying how it is. Poor you :-((
That's almost a handful now :-)
Tried that Davy, but the tea tastes bloody awful ;-)
Hi Mike,
Are you allowed to exterminate someone elses cat?
Cheers
Drew
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David
Not nonsense at all. If I want action I get it. I was 'tied' as a
councillor. And BTW, get your facts right, I didn't resign, I just didn't
stand at the next Elections. There is a bit of a difference.
The amount of pratts on this newsgroup is quite amazing, where do you all
come from? Why do you control freaks come onto this newsgroup?
This newsgroup and gardening would be such a wonderful thing if you were to
take your fingers off the 'I am in charge' button.
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David
????????
You have my deepest sympathy for you problem. I should try and change your
life style if I were you, it might clear your problem up.
Have a nice day ........ if you can.
Mike
Bob
As I understand it Bob you just treat it as Rabbit. The fur can be used as a
fur trim on slippers etc
Mike
Bob
Mike
http://www.loko.ch/creative_corner/catslippers.gif
Now there's a good use for cats :-)) The first one yet
Mike
The Theft Act 1968 - it is an offence to steal a cat
The Protection of Animals Act 1911 as extended by later legislation -
it is an offence to cruelly ill-treat, beat, kick, infuriate, carry or
convey in a manner which causes unnecessary suffering, commit any act
that will cause unnecessary suffering, abandon or cause to be
abandoned any cat or kitten and to cause anyone to do any of these.
Criminal Damage Act 1971 - Any person who destroys or damages, or
threatens to destroy or damage a cat belonging to another person may
be committing an offence under this Act.
Because cats fall outside of the definitions of cattle or livestock
under the Animals Act 1971 they cannot be held guilty of trespass
under civil law and their owners therefore cannot be held liable for
damage.
There are also laws which could, in the right circumstances, protect
you from the nuisance of cats:
The Environmental Protection Act 1990 - proceedings can be brought
when, in the opinion of the local authority, there is a statutory
nuisance caused by an animal kept in such a place or manner as to be
prejudicial to health or a nuisance.
The Public Health Act 1936 - A local authority can make bye-laws
preventing the keeping of animals so as to be prejudicial to health.
Cats are not property. When dogs were licensed you had to inform the owner
if you ran one over - not so with a cat.
> The Protection of Animals Act 1911 as extended by later legislation -
> it is an offence to cruelly ill-treat, beat, kick, infuriate, carry or
> convey in a manner which causes unnecessary suffering, commit any act
> that will cause unnecessary suffering, abandon or cause to be
> abandoned any cat or kitten and to cause anyone to do any of these.
It specifically mentions cats? What about rats and mice, who have poisons
specifically made and openly marketed for them? I would think a humane
dispatch of a cat would be within the above mentioned law.
> Criminal Damage Act 1971 - Any person who destroys or damages, or
> threatens to destroy or damage a cat belonging to another person may
> be committing an offence under this Act.
Again, I doubt cats were mentioned at all in this case, although they are
animals, and would come under animal protection laws.
>
> Because cats fall outside of the definitions of cattle or livestock
> under the Animals Act 1971 they cannot be held guilty of trespass
> under civil law and their owners therefore cannot be held liable for
> damage.
>
> There are also laws which could, in the right circumstances, protect
> you from the nuisance of cats:
>
> The Environmental Protection Act 1990 - proceedings can be brought
> when, in the opinion of the local authority, there is a statutory
> nuisance caused by an animal kept in such a place or manner as to be
> prejudicial to health or a nuisance.
>
> The Public Health Act 1936 - A local authority can make bye-laws
> preventing the keeping of animals so as to be prejudicial to health.
>
As far as I am concerned, if it is a pet, it should be under control. Keep
it on a lead, or in the house, otherwise it is a stray. The old witch near
me with 7 cats and no litter tray is a threat to human health, since her
cats use my garden as a toilet.
Bob
7 cats? 3 pairs of slippers and a spare :-))
and off course 7 Rabbit look alike pies :-))
I think you might trip on the tails, kinda like having your laces untied.
> and off course 7 Rabbit look alike pies :-))
>
>
And 28 authentic immitation lucky rabbit's feet. <salesman> Ginger rabbits
are especially lucky </salesman>
Bob
People inclined to steal, treat cruelly, kill or otherwise illtreat
domestic cats should not rely upon your version of the law as being
reliable or authorative.
ROTFL
Alan
>
> Mike
>
>
If you are so upset about the 'owners' of this newsgroup, why do you bother
to read it, it only seems to serve to get your ire up, and that could be
dangerous to your health?
Alan
>
> :-))
> Mike
>
>
I have always been under the impression that it was the cats who owned the
people who feed them!
Alan
>
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>
> email replies not necessary but to contact use;
> tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com
>
I'm begining to wonder whether it's your over inflated ego which is causing
you problems.
Alan
They are the ones who get all irate :-))
Mike
Om Shanti ;-))
(They will have a go at me now for top posting :-))
"Alan Holmes" <alan....@virgin.net> wrote in message
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From your recent rants, it would seem to me that you want _your_ hand on the
'I am in charge' button!
Alan
>
>
>
Not me Sir :-))
Tis the others, you watch :-))))
"Alan Holmes" <alan....@virgin.net> wrote in message
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>>> >Mike
>>> >:-))))))
>> I never use other names.
>> I am me. :-))
>> Take me or leave me.
>> What you see, is what you get.
>> Mike
>>
Well spoken...stay with it and be happy and to those that would wish you to
be otherwise to H... with 'em.......Harold
>
Sit around and you will see them respond with a load of crap and then they
will have a chatty chatty conversation on the newsgroup, conversation which
could quite well be done by email or picking the telephone up.
:-))
"Alan Holmes" <alan....@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Isn't that odd, I was begining to think you are vermin.
Alan
>
> Bob
>
No!
>
> Cheers
>
> Drew
>
>
> --
> Drew
Mike
:-))
"Harold Walker" <middleto...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Hmm, no reply, how about if you post your address, I promise to come around
and dig a few of your plants up, make your back garden smell permanently of
piss, and give your kids worms that will make them blind.
Thought not, motherfucker.
> The amount of pratts on this newsgroup is quite amazing, where do you all
> come from? Why do you control freaks come onto this newsgroup?
> This newsgroup and gardening would be such a wonderful thing if you were to
> take your fingers off the 'I am in charge' button.
You know, you never said a truer word.
It will be a better place when you are gone.
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> Hmm, no reply, how about if you post your address, I promise to come around
> and dig a few of your plants up, make your back garden smell permanently of
> piss, and give your kids worms that will make them blind.
> Thought not, motherfucker.
You should put a sig-separator before that last word.
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