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Ken Night

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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What should one do to catch pout for live bait and how should they be
presented for bass?

When I spin off the rock in South Devon, I often see small fish among the
kelp and sometimes they knock the 40g Dexter Wedge or Toby I use-the lure is
too big for these fish to contemplate eating.

As they are about I thought I would catch a few and use them as free lined,
legered or
floated live bait.

Anyone any ideas?

Muppet

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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You will probably find that the small fish attacking your lures are small
wrasse or pollack.
wrasse are very territorial and will attack other fish that invade their
space. I have had this happen quite a few times when plugging for bass along
the purbeck coastline as well as the channel islands.

I have tried livebaiting with pout quite a few times and been very
successful. Try hooking them just below the first dorsal fin, although
occasionally you do get the hook turning into the bait fish as a bass grabs
it, this generally keeps the pout lively for longer. alternatively hook them
through the nose but be careful not to damage the pout when doing so, or
else you would pretty soon be fishing a deadbait which are not so
successful.

float fishing or legering can be equally succesful but my best results have
come when freelining when conditions allow.

hope this helps.

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Fish4all

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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Hey there.
I can tell you that live pout are one of the best baits in my opinion.
On the boat we use carp hook's set up like a mac trace with smelly lug. But
from the shore I'm not sure,but if you can get some pout then float fished
with a 4-5 ft trace with a bullet lead & 3/0 trebles is a winner.
All the best Ken & may the fish be with you.
David Reader www.fish4all.co.uk

Malcolm

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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should have been at the AVon beach on the 19th feb
Pout city but mostly small buggers

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rickyahmet

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Feb 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/21/00
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You cannot target pouting specifically, as far as I know, but if you get a
small one, hook it gently through the lip and lower it into the water. It's
not practical to cast it from the beach. The pouting should stay alive as
long as possible. The idea is that the thrashing of the pouting in distress
should attract the bass. I have only caught one bass using this method at
Brighton Marina and the 'take' was spectacular. The fish was only about 3lb,
but the pouting was hit so hard, it literally made me jump! Best wishes to
all (except Justice Goddard) Ricky

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Dave Benson

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Feb 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/21/00
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:22:29 -0000, "rickyahmet"
<ri...@rahmet.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>You cannot target pouting specifically, as far as I know,

I don't seem to be doing to badly in catching the little buggers and
I'll gladly sell 'em on or swap 'em for lead.
Regards to you Ricky

Davey

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Dave Stevens

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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I've had quite a lot of bass up to about 4lb on live pout at Hastings.
Pier (sadly now closed). It was always a good scrap on my carp rod (the
bites were usually ferocious). It is my suspicion that the big ones
don't
fall to this technique. The pout are easy to catch just pick a scrap of
disgarded lug from the deck of the pier (preferably a bit that has baked
in the sun for a few days) and put it on a on a size 6 or 8 hook and
drop
it down the side on a small paternoster. Don't worry if the pout looks
big,
even small bass are very greedy. I had (and returned of course) a bass
of
about 1/2 lb on a pout about half that size. As for hooking the pout I
always go for a 3/0 - 6/0 hook lightly through the back by the dorsal
fin.
That way they survive and I even get the chance to return them alive on
poor bass days. If the pout a lip hooked (obviously with a much small
hook
I find I am fishing a deadbait in about 10 minutes.

Dave.

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Brian Runyard

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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Ken

I see from your posting of the 24th that you think this has been removed,
I've only just downloaded it.
Is your browser set to "Hide Read Messages"?

Brian

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Alankyates

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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I think I need some help, never heard of a browser - Does it take lugworm?. As
for downloading - Sort of casting like?.
On the subject of livebaiting with pout, I do know something. A great method on
those calm, Autumn, moon lit nights. Fish a 20 cm pout, top lip hooked on a six
foo, sorry, two metre trace, ten metres out from a steep shingle English
Channel beach. Watch your rod because the takes are explosive.
Shame its February and the bass are on their hols, but I have report from
Dover charter skipper, Mick Coker of 48 codling to 3Kg a mile off Samphire Hoe.
Could be the Kent Spring codling run is about to start?.
Tight lines,
Yatesy.

chevi...@my-deja.com

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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In article <88pq9e$qql$1...@lure.pipex.net>,

"Ken Night" <n...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
> What should one do to catch pout for live bait and how should they be
> presented for bass?

A small piece of silver or white ragworm on a small hook will take no
end of bait sized fish whether they be coalfish, pollock or pouting. If
you can't hang the bait among them, use light float tackle to cast to
them. Best wishes, chevin


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William Irving

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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I use a pennel rig and put one hook through the nose and one through just
before the tail and i have caught alot of bass this way using a float
Will
Malcolm wrote in message <88puc2$1vp$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...

>should have been at the AVon beach on the 19th feb
>Pout city but mostly small buggers
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>Ken Night <n...@ukgateway.net> wrote in message
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>> What should one do to catch pout for live bait and how should they be
>> presented for bass?
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William Irving

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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Whitting are also good off the the where i fish in Aberporth
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>In article <88pq9e$qql$1...@lure.pipex.net>,
> "Ken Night" <n...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
>> What should one do to catch pout for live bait and how should they be
>> presented for bass?
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Malcolm

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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my mate Mike had a pair of Pout on a rig and a head also!!!!!!
something had scissors it cleanly.......
and at a Match at Abbotsbury I had a small Poor Cod which had a large chunk
taken out of it. boo hoo lost an ounce lol

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> You cannot target pouting specifically, as far as I know, but if you get a
> small one, hook it gently through the lip and lower it into the water.
It's
> not practical to cast it from the beach. The pouting should stay alive as
> long as possible. The idea is that the thrashing of the pouting in
distress
> should attract the bass. I have only caught one bass using this method at
> Brighton Marina and the 'take' was spectacular. The fish was only about
3lb,
> but the pouting was hit so hard, it literally made me jump! Best wishes to
> all (except Justice Goddard) Ricky
> Ken Night wrote in message <88pq9e$qql$1...@lure.pipex.net>...

> :What should one do to catch pout for live bait and how should they be
> :presented for bass?
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Brian Baxter

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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I had a two pound cod from Chesil, thought it had got snagged on the way in,
so pulled for a break, and got the fish in with the tail hanging off, bitten
through to the bone on both sides . I've had conger there to five pounds and
am told they get bigger there, I reckon one of them had a go - a v shaped
bite.
Brian


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Adrian Martin

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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Have had that happen when there are al lot of spider crabs about! Could that
have done it?

Adrian

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Sean Mcseveney

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Mar 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/8/00
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The problem that you guys fishing Chesil are having is caused by squid. They
are particularly bad from November to Feb or March. Their fav meal is pout.
They normally take a chunk out from behind the head, then devour the rest. I
used to think it was conger but a friend of mine showed me a special lure
that you can attach to a pout, that normally results in a few squid landed.
I have caught quite a few cuttlefish during the summer, when I have been
fishing for Scad at dusk.

Sean.

Ken Night

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Mar 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/8/00
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What do you use to target the pout? Will this work for the small territorial
wrasse that Muppet referred to earlier in the thread?


John.ie

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Mar 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/9/00
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In article <RLwx4.7424$Zj2.1...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,

"Sean Mcseveney" <sean.mc...@virgin.net> wrote:
> The problem that you guys fishing Chesil are having is caused by
squid. They
> are particularly bad from November to Feb or March. Their fav meal is
pout.
> They normally take a chunk out from behind the head, then devour the
rest. I
> used to think it was conger but a friend of mine showed me a special
lure
> that you can attach to a pout, that normally results in a few squid
landed.
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I've never tried to catch squid (and I'm always looking for ways of
getting free fresh bait *S*), nor heard of anyone else doing so. What
kind of lure do you attach to the pout, and how did it work?
Has anyone else in the NG ever have a go at this?

Sean Mcseveney

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Mar 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/11/00
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The lure that is used to catch squid, is generally about 5cm long made from
plastic, with a series of what looks like needles, pointing at an angle of
60 Deg upwards. Very hard to explain.You can buy them in tackle shops. The
idea is that you attach a small piece of bait, normally Mackerel or Pout to
the lure. The lure is best fished from boats or harbour walls, where it can
be either float fished or just lowered into the water. it can be used from
the beach, but success rates are not as good.
Once the squid has taken the lure just wind in slowly. Warning !! Be
prepared for the ink.

Sean.
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