Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Rape seed pollen allergy?

189 views
Skip to first unread message

David Borman

unread,
May 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/13/98
to

Has anyone one heard of any cases of equine allergy to rape seed
pollen.....???

I fear I may be being "fobbed off" by the yard manager where my "baby" has
just been installed on full livery. So before I go in all guns blazing, so
to speak, and pick her up on dust allergies etc....please someone stop me
making a right idiot of myself!!

Thanks

Steph

s...@earthling.net

Helen Capps-Tunwell

unread,
May 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/14/98
to

Definately heard off it - a yard where I used to be had to have an old pony
put down because of it & sell another one


Sue

unread,
May 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/14/98
to

In article <6jcj8i$a...@news3.force9.net>, David Borman
<Da...@falcon3.force9.co.uk> writes
Yes, it does exist. One other horse in my yard is very allergic, and
gets very wheezy at this time of year. Scooby gets it mildly.

(Not to mention the yard owner & my fiance - I'm getting fed up with all
the sniffing people around me ;)
--
Sue & Scoobie

s...@floorcrafti.demon.co.uk

Catja Pafort

unread,
May 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/14/98
to

David wrote:

>Has anyone one heard of any cases of equine allergy to rape seed
>pollen.....???
>
>I fear I may be being "fobbed off" by the yard manager where my "baby" has
>just been installed on full livery.

What symptoms does your horse have?
Rape seed allergy exists - it's been partly blamed for a number of
things including photic headshaking. It is, therefore, a real
possibility you should consider.
A vet will be able to tell you more.

It's a sad fact that in equines, as in humans, allergies seem to be
commonplace these days.

Catja
--
Catja Pafort
<http://www.aber.ac.uk/~cap96>

"Ah...those were the days when the cassette picture shows vast alien
spaceships locked in combat, and the game itself probably involved
firing up-arrows at flying letter As." (TP)

Sue Macran

unread,
May 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/14/98
to

"David Borman" <Da...@falcon3.force9.co.uk> wrote:
>Has anyone one heard of any cases of equine allergy to rape
seed
>pollen.....???

Yep I've heard of it. apparently it's quite common in horses
and pople. Problems such as sever head shaking have been
associated with rape seed pollen.

>
>I fear I may be being "fobbed off" by the yard manager where
my "baby" has

>just been installed on full livery. So before I go in all guns
blazing, so
>to speak, and pick her up on dust allergies etc....please
someone stop me
>making a right idiot of myself!!

They could be right. Then again they could be fobbing you off.
You'd need the advice of a vet.

Sue
>
>s...@earthling.net
>
>

Elizabeth Farrar

unread,
May 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/15/98
to David Borman

Yes it does most definately exist. I've just had some time off because
it gives me shocking asthma and hay fever. My horse also suffers from
it - head shaking, coughing, wheezing, heaving. It's disgusting stuff,
and there must be a big subsidy on it this year as there's acre upon
acre of it round us. It stinks.

Elizabeth.

Avril Smith

unread,
May 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/15/98
to David Borman

yes, of course! its not only equine allergy, its human and dog as well.

many people in the oxfordshire area are currently crippled by it; my friend's

dog is also being crippled. my last horse was a head shaker who was
controlled
by using a net EXCEPT for the 3 weeks the rape was in flower and then she
was unrideable. i'm wheezing like a refugee from the consumption hospital as
well,
which i put down to the rape. the smell is horrible, it gives a dreadful
taste in the
mouth. i've never seen so much as we have around here this year.

hth, avril

David Borman wrote:

> Has anyone one heard of any cases of equine allergy to rape seed
> pollen.....???
>

> I fear I may be being "fobbed off" by the yard manager where my "baby" has
> just been installed on full livery. So before I go in all guns blazing, so
> to speak, and pick her up on dust allergies etc....please someone stop me
> making a right idiot of myself!!
>

> Thanks
>
> Steph
>
> s...@earthling.net


Stephen Lewis

unread,
May 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/15/98
to

I agree, and I have heard that there is a new variety that will
produce three crops each year. I'm personally in a dreadful state this
year. And horses do suffer too.

Simon Benn

unread,
May 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/16/98
to

Hi,

I thought I'd contribute, after lurking for a while.

Fortunately, I'm not allergic to oilseed rape, but have known horses that
were. They had all the usual symtoms including lots of nose discharge,
head shaking. I never saw swollen eyes though.

Prehaps someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I was told that the
pollen from oilseed rape is huge compared to some flowers and is a
sticky pollen - ie. not airbourne. The crop tends can self and cross
fertilize and this is usually achived by bees. I imagine the honey
from oilseed rape tastes terrible, if that is what it smell like.

The other problem we used to have was the little black flies in rape
fields. You'll see what I mean if you walk past a field of
rape wearing a white or yelllow T-shirt on a sunny day. It causes
head shakeing in several animals. The solution was novell
but looked a little silly. We used to put a fly fringe over the
nose band and it certainly helps, both with flies and sunburn.
Factor 20 on the pink muzzles! The problem was always one of
getting the stuff on. Once wise - one whiff of the smell of
suncream and the fun started.

Given that rape pollen might not be airboure have you considered that
some trees have similar pollination perods. Their pollen is usually very
small and airbourne. I'd ask your vet to try some tests, although it
could get costly.

One thing I am very wary of is the new genetically modified varients of
crop - apparently oilseed rape is a good candidate. I dread to think
what effect it could have on allergy suffers if strains start getting
crossed. Thank God I'm only allergic to bracken!

Regards,

Simon.

PS. Good to see a spam free newsgroup, but you'll have to unobfucate
the address. to mail me :(

--
Simon Benn, University of Edinburgh.
E-mail: skb@dcs!ed"ac£uk; Simon.Benn@ed!ac"uk; 9441155@sms%ed^ac&uk;
'Paranoid people live longer'. PGP key on request.

Petra

unread,
May 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/17/98
to

My horses are fine with rape-seed - but it gives me asthma attacks.

Petra

DAN

unread,
May 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/18/98
to

My old yard had alot of Rape seed in the fields near by. It is very true
that the pollen can make horses i'll. Head shaking and runny noses is the
most common problem.

Dan.

Avril Smith

unread,
May 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/19/98
to DAN

well the good news is that the subsidy on rape is withdrawn next year and
is being given to linseed instead :-) so lots of pretty blue flowers instead
of
the stinking yellow stuff.

bad news is, its been so prevalent over the past few years, its seeded itself

in other land and hedgerows, so we'll never be entirely free of it.

avril

Anne Ramkaran

unread,
May 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/22/98
to

In article <3561BA10...@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>, Avril Smith
<av...@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk> writes

>bad news is, its been so prevalent over the past few years, its seeded itself
>
>in other land and hedgerows, so we'll never be entirely free of it.
>
>avril
We have lots of it in urban Liverpool. It makes me and my dog sneeze.
--
Anne Ramkaran (an...@ramkaran.demon.co.uk)

Nigel Thomas

unread,
May 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/24/98
to

There are basically two different ways that plants cross pollinate, wind
and insect.
Wind - plants produce large quantities of pollen that blows about in the
wind, this is what causes most allegic reactions. The plants do not have
much smell or colour because they do not need to attract insects.
Insect - These plants use insects to carry pollen to other plants. They
tend to produce large grains of 'sticky' pollen which the insects carry.
The plants tend to be colourful and produce a strong aroma (e.g. rape),
to attract insects.
Therefore rape is unlikely to be producing the airborne pollens that
cause allergies. I think it is blamed because it is so visible and does
have a strong smell, but these qualities suggest that it should not
produce airborne pollen.


Petra

unread,
May 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/25/98
to

Nigel Thomas wrote

>Therefore rape is unlikely to be producing the airborne pollens that
>cause allergies. I think it is blamed because it is so visible and does
>have a strong smell, but these qualities suggest that it should not
>produce airborne pollen.

Well - I don't know if the above is correct or not, but rape is very well
known to cause allergies, and I myself react very strongly to it.

Petra


Avril Smith

unread,
May 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/26/98
to nigel....@virgin.net


Nigel Thomas wrote:

> Therefore rape is unlikely to be producing the airborne pollens that
> cause allergies.

i suggest you ride a head shaker horse through a rape field in flower and
see
what it does to them!

avril

jj...@globalnet.co.uk

unread,
May 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/26/98
to

Avril Smith wrote in message
<356ACDEB...@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>...

In my own experience I am not particularly bothered by the typical
hay fever sufferers symptoms but the smell of the Rape flower
gives me a splitting headache and causes my sinuses to fill up. I
suspect the "offending" agent to be chemical as in the aromatic
giving the smell rather than particles of pollen. Anyone else
share my reaction?


whin...@my-dejanews.com

unread,
May 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/31/98
to

In article <355C3D54...@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>,

Yes, allergies in horses, dogs etc are all on the increase. There are two
articles in the "Horse & Rider" and "Horse Magazine" June issues that discuss
these problems and how to cope with them. Norman


>
> David Borman wrote:
>
> > Has anyone one heard of any cases of equine allergy to rape seed

> > pollen.....??? Yes it is very common. Norman


> >
> > I fear I may be being "fobbed off" by the yard manager where my "baby" has
> > just been installed on full livery. So before I go in all guns blazing, so
> > to speak, and pick her up on dust allergies etc....please someone stop me

> > making a right idiot of myself!! Don't be fobbed off, it is a real
problem, but thankfully there are ways to cope, but I'm not sure she will have
the answers to endemic dust and mould. Norman
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Steph
> >
> > s...@earthling.net
>
>


-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading

0 new messages