hey - why not explore my horse's field?
Sue Rogers
irrespective of whether or not my horse is in there at the moment. RANT
OFF
Sunday morning: Peter's tied to the gate while I tack him up. A woman with
4 dogs comes along the track. One of the dogs dashes under the gate to get
to Peter so I shout at him and he (the dog) backs off.
Woman starts chatting, telling me how she used to ride horses and how she
loves the track because she lets her dogs off and they always have a
really good time, diving into the field, running round as a pack to "find"
Peter, or next door's horse, and then get lots of exercise chasing them
about.
Being speechless at her lack of respect for private property and other
people's animals, I said the next time it happens, Peter will hopefully
kick one of her dogs in the head and kill it and she laughed and said "oh
no, my dogs are far too quick for that to happen." We shall see.....
Monday night: pick up a copy of the draft Parish Council's leaflet on
rights of way. It says something like "as you make your way along Public
Footpath X leading along track Y, you may wish to explore the hedgerows
and meadows to your right hand side, where you will find the homes of
Wildlife X if you search hard enough."
So, my Parish Council also thinks it is okay for the general public to
traipse all over Peter's grass.
And what about the poor Wildlife X? I'm sure their safety is heightened
by the location of their home being published for all to see.
And another paragraph referring to a bridleway: "users are probably
discouraged by the presence of travellers with dogs at point X"
These particular travellers are a small friendly tidy bunch of people,
lived there for 20 years or more. There is no rubbish and no loose dogs.
They keep and drive cobs, flower gardens, put their rubbish out for the
dustmen each week, always say "hello" and get on very well with local dog
walkers and horse riders, none of whom feel dissuaded from using this
route.
Yet on another track, Farmers X, Y and Z keep Border Collies and Jack
Russells who terrorise whoever goes past yet they are exempt from a
mention in this leaflet - because they live in bricks and mortar and pay
council tax?
Does this anti-gipsy sentence constitute racism?
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Denis F
Jan 2000 10:44:12 +0000, sc...@cam.ac.uk (Sue Rogers) wrote:
>Being speechless at her lack of respect for private property and other
>people's animals, I said the next time it happens, Peter will hopefully
>kick one of her dogs in the head and kill it and she laughed and said "oh
>no, my dogs are far too quick for that to happen." We shall see.....
put some sheep in the field, then you can tell her you are legally
allowed to shoot the dog if it worries your livestock.....
<g>
--
denis
"Now, most dentist's chairs go up and down, don't they? The one I was
in went back and forwards. I thought 'This is unusual'. And the dentist
said to me 'Mr Cooper, get out of the filing cabinet.'"
J Halstead
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>
> Does this anti-gipsy sentence constitute racism?
>
Yes, it does. Depending on whether you mind upsetting those 'in charge of
where you live' (I also have a problem with the Parish Council here) it
might be worth mentioning this to them. They should not use their media as
a way of downgrading people who live in the parish, or anyone else for that
matter. As for the woman with dogs, how did you not strangle her???? I got
really stressy just reading it !!!!! If her and her dogs aren't actually
allowed in your field you could try putting up electric fencing at a low
level to give her dogs a bang as they attempt to get under the fence.
Providing you put signs up every so often, you'll be within your rights.
She does NOT have the right to allow her dogs to harass your horse.
Aaaarrgghhhh, must go chill for a while !!!!
Jaqy
Melanie Weaver-Thorpe
>
> Woman starts chatting, telling me how she used to ride horses and how she
> loves the track because she lets her dogs off and they always have a
> really good time, diving into the field, running round as a pack to "find"
> Peter, or next door's horse, and then get lots of exercise chasing them
> about.
!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
I would grab my poochies by the scruff of their necks and shake them until
their teeth rattled if they marched into a field and started to chase
livestock! Is the woman a complete halfwit??? Has she never heard of the
dangerous dogs act? Or that worrying livestock is serious??
>I said the next time it happens, Peter will hopefully
> kick one of her dogs in the head and kill it and she laughed and said "oh
> no, my dogs are far too quick for that to happen." We shall see.....
I'll send Boyce over to show her, shall I? I've seen dogs go flying through
the air when they've got too close to his back legs. He's brilliant with
dogs but does NOT allow them to take liberties and do the snapping at his
hamstrings bit (can't say as I blame bim). I bet her dog's can't do 40 and
aren't as whippy and nippy as him either.
I have no problem with people walking through a field that has my horse in
it nor with them walking dogs AS LONG AS THOSE DOGS ARE UNDER CONTROL AND
ARE NOT CHASING HORSES! Nor would I be amused if people dropped litter.
I've gone blackberrying in fields with horses, cattle and sheep in. I
didn't disturb any of them in the slightest (well, apart from one horse who
was convinced I was picking blackberries to feed to him!); it's not
difficult to be considerate. But for that woman to actually admit that her
dogs are bloody well packing and then 'finding' is just beyond belief. If
she's not very, very careful she's going to end up with 4 dead dogs.
Melanie
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Grotli
corner, although people would wander all over it. A couple of people
complained of their dogs being chased by 'that grey horse'. Ben is fine
with dogs so long as the don't irritate him otherwise he is likely to give
them a flying lesson or stamp on them.
One day I arrived at the field to find an old man I didn't know talking to
my horse over the gate and calling him by name. When I walked up the man
turned to me and said "Ben is very partial to dog biscuits, you know".
Great! I wonder what else he has been fed. I was always throwing grass
clippings back over the hedge and picking up bottles and plastic bags. It
doesn't seem to have done him any long-term harm though, as he is 23 this
year.
Sue
Sandy
even an official footpath but if a fuss was made to try and stop
people I think it could become an officail one because people have
been going up there fer years (theres an attractive tower on the top
of the hill that everyone has to go see - it's dull). Since I put
Silhouete up there though the number has gone down big time cause
they're all scared of the big balck monster - HA HA!!! And she runs
round anyone who goes there - looking for food - not my fault 'they'
started it - when she first came the field was always busy - EVERONE
had to 'go see the horsey' and feed it carrots............ I was going
to put up a 'dont feed the horse or it'll pester everone for ever'
sign but I didn't get around to it.............oops
There is signs saying 'dogs must be kept on leads' though......to
which most people ignore.....but I never have mine on the lead but
thats up to me so when they come up and my dog really pests there
little toy dogette type thing they cant say anything snotty like keep
your dog under control cause they know really they shouldn't be there
- cheecky buggers.......so I just let my dog do what he wants - funny
(he's not a nasty dog just playfull and a tad, um, randy at times!!! )
Sandy
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Emma
> One day I arrived at the field to find an old man I didn't know talking to
> my horse over the gate and calling him by name. When I walked up the man
> turned to me and said "Ben is very partial to dog biscuits, you know".
> Great! I wonder what else he has been fed. I was always throwing grass
> clippings back over the hedge and picking up bottles and plastic bags. It
> doesn't seem to have done him any long-term harm though, as he is 23 this
> year.
It was something in this arena of discussion that got me back into the
idea of horse riding. I went for a walk to the forest near my house and
spotted four horses in it. I also saw a lady feeding them hay, so I
wandered over to ask if she'd mind me occasionally giving her horses a
carrot so I'd have somewhere interesting to walk to. Then she asked me if
I'd be interested in riding one of the horses as she didn't have time to
work him. Had I not gone to ask permission to give the horse a carrot, I
might not have had the opportunity to learn about horses from a sweet-
natured (but terrible to ride) horse who has a very generous owner.
Just so y'all know that not all non-horsey types think of horses as
either nuisances or community property.
Emma
--
When the going gets tough the tough buy horses ;-)
Petra Ruttiger, 7 January 2000
Sue Watson
<mel...@world.co.uk> writes
I was cantering along at a fair pace the other day when suddenly there
was barking - I looked around to see a rottweiler at full gallop behind
us - fortunately Scooby wasn't bothered and it dropped back after a
while - but at keast the owner had the grace to look ashamed. A sppoky
horse or a young child it may not have been so funny.
--
Sue Watson
RSage78184
along one of the tracks minding our own business when two big black dogs ran at
us barking. They looked really aggressive, I was doing my best to stop Whisper
whipping round and taking off as the dogs kept getting closer. The owner was
yelling at them and they both stopped just short of us. One of them turned
round and trotted back to the woman, the other suddenly lunged at the horse and
got hold of her front right boot. Whisper reared and the dog and the boot flew
through the air. We took off over the golf course and it took ages to pull her
up. She wasnt' injured, but very upset. The woman and her dogs disappeared and
Whisper was never the same to hack out after.
Linda
Melanie Weaver-Thorpe
>One of them turned
> round and trotted back to the woman, the other suddenly lunged at the horse and
> got hold of her front right boot. Whisper reared and the dog and the boot flew
> through the air.
If you're walking your dogs in an area where you know you're going to meet
horses there really is no excuse for not socializing your dogs with horses.
OK, I'm lucky and have my own horse so I was able to take both poochies when
they're tiny up to meet Boyce and the other horses at the yard. But I don't
know a single yard if, someone approached them asking if they could bring
their puppy down to socialize it with hores, wouldn't be able to find at
least one or two people who wouldn't mind if the puppy met their horse.
Horse shows are another great place to take dogs to let them meet horses.
Pandora and Bubble both have a very healthy respect for horses and I really
do think it is extremely unlikely that either would ever chase a horse and
they certainly wouldn't approach one as they're both a bit scared of them.
Those of you who've seen my photos know that I've got two Briards. I'm also
on a Briard newsgroup type thingy and a couple of months back had a whopping
great row on there about the nipping-at-the-hamstrings-wolf-instinct thing.
A six month old pup was basically nipping at her owner's ankles when
excited. Everyone else was 'little poochie is trying to herd you away from
danger' and I was 'little poochie is practising her hamstringing technique,
nip it in the bud now as when she's full grown, a bloody great Briard that
thinks it's acceptable to chase moving objects and aim at their hamstrings
is a damn nuisance and a danger'. You can imagine how popular this was..
There was just loads of loads of 'Oh but it's a herding instinct' and me
'No, it's a wolf instinct that was refined for herding and if it's such a
specialised herding thing how come almost any dog, no matter what size, ALL
go for the ankles of whatever it is that they're chasing?'. After a bit
more of this I then gave about 4 examples of horses from my yard who'd had
dogs go for their legs (two of which were brought down) and that I didn't
really think that those dogs were trying to herd the horse away from
danger.... People FINALLY saw what I was getting at and hopefully are
thinking a bit more about stopping their dogs 'herding' as if the dogs think
it's OK to chase people and go for their ankles, they're probably going to
think that it's OK to go for anything.
With Whisper, do you have any friends with (and this is the important part!)
well behaved dogs? If not, how about approaching a local dog training
group. If you could arrange for her to be introduced to dogs in a
controlled environment it might help her to overcome her very natural fear.
RSage78184
there for 6 years now:-) It was a long time ago.>With Whisper, do you have any
friends with (and this is the important part!)
>well behaved dogs? If not, how about approaching a local dog training
>group. If you could arrange for her to be introduced to dogs in a
>controlled environment it might help her to overcome her very natural fear.
>
Thanks though!
Linda
Chris Green
>RSage78184 wrote:
>>One of them turned
>> round and trotted back to the woman, the other suddenly lunged at the horse and
>> got hold of her front right boot. Whisper reared and the dog and the boot flew
>> through the air.
>
>If you're walking your dogs in an area where you know you're going to meet
>horses there really is no excuse for not socializing your dogs with horses.
>OK, I'm lucky and have my own horse so I was able to take both poochies when
>they're tiny up to meet Boyce and the other horses at the yard. But I don't
>know a single yard if, someone approached them asking if they could bring
>their puppy down to socialize it with hores, wouldn't be able to find at
>least one or two people who wouldn't mind if the puppy met their horse.
>Horse shows are another great place to take dogs to let them meet horses.
>Pandora and Bubble both have a very healthy respect for horses and I really
>do think it is extremely unlikely that either would ever chase a horse and
>they certainly wouldn't approach one as they're both a bit scared of them.
>
their dogs and restrain them on a very tight lead when I ride past, if
they *can't* grab them and/or the lead breaks or whatever then you get
a loopy dog tearing after your horse.
Even worse are the people who grab their dog and then go and hide
(from the horse's point of view) behind a bush.
--
Chris Green (ch...@x-1.net)
Centaur
RSage78184 <rsage...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000112172321...@ng-fr1.aol.com...
>Whisper reared and the dog and the boot flew
> through the air.
Whilst we out riding, Preemus reared at a large dog that was rushing towards
him in a threatening manner. It was a very
neat, well balanced rear in defiance. The expression on the dog's face was
amazing. It stopped in horror, turned round and rushed back to it's owner.
The owner was also suitably alarmed.
Thank you Preemus for the protection!
Ian Surey
Grotli <gro...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> Great! I wonder what else he has been fed. I was always throwing grass
> clippings back over the hedge and picking up bottles and plastic bags. It
> doesn't seem to have done him any long-term harm though, as he is 23 this
> year.
>
>
>
Oh don't start me off on garden rubbish! One of our fields borders a row of
houses and despite gentle comments - to not so gentle comments and then
leaflets put through the doors - several gardeners would think nothing of
dumping all sorts over the boundry fence. Its got to the point where I try
and avoid using the field during the summer months and have put up a double
fence line - both electric - to keep humans and horses seperate! Even now I
have to go along the fence line chucking back all sorts of stuff!
Ho hum.
Regards Ian & Mags.(who can play a mean game of football with the ones that
come over the fence! Note: I do throw the balls back when I find them but
sometimes they have horse bite marks in them!)
Chris Sharp
mare
> along one of the tracks minding our own business when two big black dogs
ran at
> us barking.
Sometimes I wish my boy wasn't QUITE so well-behaved. Out hacking yesterday
a large Alsation dog kept running up to us and round us as we were walking
along,ignoring his owner's calls. The dog was carrying a stick of about 2'6"
long and ran straight up behind Charlie, turning and wacking him on the back
leg with the stick - there was no reaction at all from my full TB. When
things like this happen I always feel like saying "Another horse could have
kicked your dog into the wide blue yonder" but it doesn't seem very credible
when my pony is such a star!!
Jenny Read
>their dogs and restrain them on a very tight lead when I ride past, if
>they *can't* grab them and/or the lead breaks or whatever then you get
>a loopy dog tearing after your horse.
Maybe I'm just lucky but I'm always impressed how responsible dog owners
are - almost all of them call their dog when they see me coming, and
pull it to one side as I pass. Grange is fine with dogs (apart from
Cardy the mad stable dog who chases her when I lunge) but I'm glad to
see most people appreciate it's a good idea to keep their dogs away from
horses.
Jenny
Susan Swann
<je...@rauko.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>Absolutely! I'm always much more concerned about people who grab
>>their dogs and restrain them on a very tight lead when I ride past, if
>>they *can't* grab them and/or the lead breaks or whatever then you get
>>a loopy dog tearing after your horse.
>
This was in Beds area, Maulden Woods.
You may have heard of James Hanratty the last person to be hung. It was
called Dead Mans Hill Murder!.
Well this was the woods I'm speaking of. We were at that time stabled
next door to the woods, on the very busy A6 to Bedford.
It seemed a sensible thing to do, having this lovely area on the
doorstep. It cost me £28.00 per horse per year. You were issued with a
bridle badge. This enabled you to ride off the bridleways, thus having
more areas to ride safely. Or so I thought. NO the route were not
cleared, sometimes impassible, with the other bonus, cyclist using it on
their mountain bikes with no care for others, the dog walkers, I add
here that it was a rule that Dogs were supposed to be on Leads even in
the woods. The rule was also no cantering or galloping. As a horse owner
it seemed we could not win. You paid for the privilege to use these
special routes, but still encountered all and sundry being reckless.
Even to be told at times by dog walkers what did WE think WE were doing
riding out on their paths!! These were put straight in uncertain terms.
I am a responsible dog owner, I am not a kill joy. But I gave up the
pass and joined the other non pass owners in the end and broke the rules
like all the others. If the ranger caught my daughter, which happened
now and again, she just gave him a tale or two, went on here way. Oh
sorry I seemed to be lost, or similar!!
--
Susan Swann
Emma
je...@rauko.freeserve.co.uk says...
> Maybe I'm just lucky but I'm always impressed how responsible dog owners
> are - almost all of them call their dog when they see me coming, and
> pull it to one side as I pass. Grange is fine with dogs (apart from
> Cardy the mad stable dog who chases her when I lunge) but I'm glad to
> see most people appreciate it's a good idea to keep their dogs away from
> horses.
Strangely, the dog belonging to the vet at Major's stables is very
interested in anything involving horses (I think mainly cos it means
there's people nearby, and people means attention - the dog appears to
still be half-puppy going on its behaviour). She's a pretty harmless dog
though, the only time I was concerned was when she was shimmying under
the stable gate to see if Major's food was worth stealing (Major's not a
kicker, but he does like his food), but luckily she's an easily-
distracted dog.