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Addis

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Jun 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/4/00
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Well there I was thinking I had a budding event horse...

Went to our first XC (comp as opposed to schooling) today at Rosehill (the
BHS Insure HT thingy)and I'm afraid to say it didn't go very well

Steel started off over the first two OK, then ducked out at the third. That
woke me up and I really started to drive into the next few fences. He sailed
over the scary spooky ditch in the woods then ran out at a log pile...and
again...and again. I walloped him hard and he finally jumped it, then tanked
off across the field, hurdled another trakhener (life flashing before eyes
moment). This was getting dangerous so I turned him in a circle, taking up
most of the field, before he slowed down enough to do the road crossing. He
jumped that OK, tanked off in the field again then ran out halfway through
the water (though he stepped in OK)

He jumped the next lot nicely and popped over that big scary blue horseshoe
fence....the very one I thought he have a major problem with !!

He's schooled three times, including jumping 3 Novice fences @ Tweseldown,
and was calm when warming up...I just think it was too much excitement and
new things to take in.

As far as the brakes go, I was variously advised to use an American gag and
Pelham (we went in a Dr. B)

Anyone any ideas on this ? I'm worried about using anything very strong in
case I miss my stride and sock him in the teeth....


A rather disappionted but even more determined Pauline and
an-in-the-doghouse Steel (it will go clear, it will go clear, it will go
clear...


Kay McCart

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>He jumped the next lot nicely and popped over that big scary blue horseshoe
>fence....the very one I thought he have a major problem with !!
>

Good courses are built to terrify riders not horses :-)

>Anyone any ideas on this ? I'm worried about using anything very strong in
>case I miss my stride and sock him in the teeth....

It's a worry isn't it - that one ! Have you got a cross country course
anywhere near that you can hire to school over without any pressure on either
of you ?
Kay

Jane Hollis

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Pauline wrote:
>Went to our first XC (comp as opposed to schooling) today at Rosehill (the
BHS Insure HT thingy)and I'm afraid to say it didn't go very well<

What height was it? I know Steel is a talented jumper, but horses often get
so excited by their first XC that I find it best to start with a very small
course well within their capabilities.

>He's schooled three times, including jumping 3 Novice fences @ Tweseldown,
and was calm when warming up...I just think it was too much excitement and
new things to take in.<

When you schooled him XC, did you just jump individual jumps or did you ride
them as a course. If you didn't jump them as a course, perhaps you could do
some schooling sessions over a course as this would help simulate
competition conditions.

>As far as the brakes go, I was variously advised to use an American gag and

Pelham (we went in a Dr. B) Anyone any ideas on this ? I'm worried about


using anything very strong in
case I miss my stride and sock him in the teeth....<

This is a difficult one. My personal feeling would be to try him a few more
times in the Dr Bristol in case it is just due to over excitement. I have
always ridden all but one of my horses in snaffles, even when they have been
strong. However, we eventually had to put Duffy into a Dutch gag (also
called 3 ring snaffle, continental snaffle, bubble bit etc.) for cross
country. When I rode him in a snaffle (or a Dr Bristol) I had to keep him
on a tight rein all the time to stop him tanking off, whereas if I rode him
in the Dutch gag I could ride him on a light contact and only check him with
it if he was getting too strong. However, he wasn't a youngster at the time
and he had been ridden in the Dutch gag by his previous owners.

If you do use a Pelham or other stronger bit, you could always choose one
that allows you to use two reins, then you can keep the more severe option
for emergencies.

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Alexis Haines

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In article <960157017.20291.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, "Addis" <ad...@theale.demon.co.ukelele> says:

>He's schooled three times, including jumping 3 Novice fences @ Tweseldown,
>and was calm when warming up...I just think it was too much excitement and
>new things to take in.
>

>As far as the brakes go, I was variously advised to use an American gag and
>Pelham (we went in a Dr. B)
>
>Anyone any ideas on this ? I'm worried about using anything very strong in
>case I miss my stride and sock him in the teeth....

How about a dutch gag with two reins? You can use mostly the snaffle rein
but will have the secnd rein as emergency brakes?

When you went to Tweseldown was it with other neds?

The other place I'd recommend for a bit of a confidence booster is the
XC clinics at MKEC with Mary-Anne Trevor-Roper, next one is in a couple
of weeks and IMO she has a good eye.

Alexis

Petra Ruttiger

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Pauline - sorry to hear you had a bad time, but everyone has to start
somewhere.

I know the Rose-Hill course very well ( it used to be within hacking distance
of the yard I was at so I did virtually all my x-c schooling there. )

It doesn't suit all horses, and has a very different feel to it from Tweseldown
(Tweseldown being a spacious, open course with all the fences being led into
very invitingly, whereas Rose Hill is partly dark and twisty, many fences
invisible to the horse until you're right in front of them, and constant
jumping from light to dark and vice versa.

It does suit Monty, obviously didn't suit Steel on this occasion.

Can you get your instructor to come schooling to Rose Hill with you ? Also go
to as many different courses as you can, Wokingham is another good one to go
schooling to, as is Snowball - all of which are not too bad distance-wise for
you to get to and all of which you can hire to school at.

Personally I'd go along with the suggestion of trying a continental gag, with
two reins so you can ride off the snaffle rein unless you feel you need the
"extra"

I was discussing bitting with a trainer at Bicton last weekend, and he pointed
out how many horses are in the most amazing bit-concoctions in the British
Novice (the conversation actually started when he came over and said how nice
it was to see a horse (Monty) go round in a nathe snaffle and nothing else
(except for the loose martingale) .

He said the problem with so many horses was that they started off with too much
bitting, so what could people resort to when they go up the ranks and maybe
needed to increase ? You can rarely go backwards, so it makes sense to start
off with the mildest and simplest bitting arrangement you can possibly get away
with .

Just keep up the schooling, I'm sure it'll be just fine in the long run, that's
the way it goes when you start with a young horse, don't let it disapoint you,
just keep trying, have lots of lessons, attend clinics, and keep trying, it'll
be OK in the long run if you don't overface yourself and/or your horse.

Good luck !

Petra
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Holmes

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Hi ya!

Sorry to here about your....erm....levelling experience with Steel.
Bloody horses!

Is there any possibility that you're taking things too fast?
I can't remember how old/experienced Steel is, although sometimes I feel that
temperament is much more important than the former.

For instance, I've been doing alot of lunging work over jumps with April (who's
13yrs, but you'd never think it) to build her confidence. I always start off every
session with a pole on the ground and build it up gradually. Then when she's
jumped something a decent height, I go back to little jumps and put something new
and scary in (e.g. my red jumper/a log/piece of fir tree). Then I might do some
bigger spreads or bounces or something.
She's doing incredibly well, and even though I'm on the ground, is giving me so
much confidence.

Anyway, the other day, I skipped a step because I was getting complacent (and
excited) about her calmness. I asked her to jump something new *and* quite big,
she refused for the first time in ages.
Of course I immediately lowered it, and she had another look, but jumped it. Then
I slowly put it back up again, and she was fine.....but hell I was so angry with
myself!

What you said about Steel tanking off reminded me of exactly what April would do
if she lacked confidence in her jumping.

But then you know him better than me, and he could just be being a naughty.

Hope this is of some remote help...
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Addis

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That's the thing - he was brilliant schooling the three times went - he
jumped every single fence (ditches, steps etc etc) fine, with another horse
there, both with him in sight, going away and towards.

He's been SJ four times inc double clear over BN, so the competition
atmosphere isn't brand new.

I'm certainly not going to do anything bigger until we get this sorted - a
lot of patience and time required :-)

Jane - it was the max 2'9" but to be honest most of them were 2'6". When he
scholled @ Twesel we linked up 8 or 9 fences. OK I know this isn't a whole
course but it was enough to give him the idea.

He had his teeth checked so no problem there, I think it's just down to
taking him out as much as poss over small XC courses until we both learn
about each other...

Petra - our first ODE (end of June) is at Wokingham and I agree it is a
better course. I thought that Rosehill would be a good place to start seeing
as the woods give him a 'tunnel' ie not a nice open field (eg Snowball) to
tank off in !!

I know I'm a perfectionist so I'll just grin and say ah well and maybe next
time we'll only run out 3 times !

Pauline and Steel (trotted up sound as a bell this morning phew)


"Kay McCart" <topsr...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> >He jumped the next lot nicely and popped over that big scary blue
horseshoe
> >fence....the very one I thought he have a major problem with !!
> >
>
> Good courses are built to terrify riders not horses :-)
>

> >Anyone any ideas on this ? I'm worried about using anything very strong
in
> >case I miss my stride and sock him in the teeth....
>

Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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Jun 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/18/00
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Addis wrote:
>
> I know I'm a perfectionist so I'll just grin and say ah well and maybe next time we'll only run out 3 times !

Shut up and go and admire your two red rossies! You'll get no sympathy from
me you multiple-first-winner you! :)

That horse is a little star! He's entitled to make the odd boo-boo here and
there; especially as he's just a baby!

Melanie
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Nick wrote:
>
> A shame, you would hope that as people trained the horses more and became better
> riders they could back off on the bit.

There's only so much nerve endings can take. You ought to see a pony on our
yard; the insides of the corners of his mouth are white with scar tissue.
That was the work of the 'breaker'. Surprise, surprise he has a mouth like
iron and could chew his way through a concrete wall... The girl who owns
him rides him in a pelham with roundings (spit, loathe, spit) because she
can't manage two reins and basically, he won't stop in a lighter bit.
There's no way, no matter how much he was schooled, that those nerves would
regenerate - once they've gone, they've gone... Poppy's got a
mouth-of-steel too. I dread to think how she acquired it.

Susan Swann

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In article <394D08F8...@world.co.uk>, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe
<mel...@world.co.uk> writes

>Nick wrote:
>>
>> A shame, you would hope that as people trained the horses more and became
>better
In an ideal world,

all horse/ponies would have only the very best start in the world.

All would only be handled by knowledgeable people.

We would only inherit only the best schooled animals.

We would all be the best rider, with all that should have, seat, legs,
hands.


None of us would be novices.

BUT
the world is not ideal

We take what is on offer.

We suffer others mistakes.

A lot never learn through their mistakes.

Some of us have to make do with what we have, use tack that given the
choice would rather not.

Some problems are not undone by schooling, it is too ingrained, or as
Melanie explained scarred.

So as much as advice is appreciated, some times you can not undo all.

I just think we get so involved that this is the only way forward, we
can not see the wood for the trees.

Susan & Jack who are both finding that forward also means backward lots of the
times.

Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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Susan Swann wrote:
>
> Susan & Jack who are both finding that forward also means backward lots of the
> times.

That just sums up how I find equine-human relationships in one line.
Congrats Susan and also on the rest of your post which made me sit there and
think (rather than sit there and look blank which is my usual Monday morning
trick...!) but I'll just add a quick p.s., if I may....

p.s., It would be nice, just sometimes, to not hear the majority of people
blaming the horse for the rider's sins. An awful lot of people seem more
than happy to take the credit for getting a good performance out of their
horse but are totally aghast at the mere idea that their riding might have
produced a bad performance. I think I've been to a couple of shows too many
because if I hear much more of 'HE went like s**t on purpose' (rather than
the truer version 'I rode like poo and he echoed me'). 'HE was lazy and
kicked the poles down' (I didn't ride him at all and just aimed and prayed.
Unfortunately as the course was more complex in the jump off that approach
didn't work), 'HE keeps going hollow and getting bad marks in his tests' (I
can't even bear to start on that one..), or the very, very worst....the
person who comes out of the ring after a not very good performance and then
goes straight to the warm up area and beats the crap out of their horse...

Sometimes, horses are right little buggers and put in a dirty just for the
hell of it (and sometimes, like we do, they make mistakes) but an awful lot
of the time it is down to how they're being ridden.

jellybelly

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Thanks to Susan for her message of support which I think is
applicable to everyone and certainly helped me after a terrible
lesson this weekend. I have printed it off and will look at it
whenever I feel like I am wading through glue as regards my
riding progress.
Thanks!

Emily :o)

Susan Swann wrote:

>Susan & Jack who are both finding that forward also means
backward lots of the
>times.


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Karen8863

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I know that I get it wrong a lot of the time andI also know that Bugsy 'saves'
me on quite a few occasions. People who beat the s**t out of their horses when
it is really the rider's fault aught to be horse whipped themselves. Now I
will get off my soap box mode!

Karen and Bugsy

Susan Swann

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In article <394DD15C...@world.co.uk>, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe
<mel...@world.co.uk> writes

>Susan Swann wrote:
>>
>> Susan & Jack who are both finding that forward also means backward lots of the
>> times.
>
>That just sums up how I find equine-human relationships in one line.
>Congrats Susan and also on the rest of your post which made me sit there and
>think (rather than sit there and look blank which is my usual Monday morning
>trick...!)

Wake you up did I, what a wake up call

> but I'll just add a quick p.s., if I may....
>
>p.s., It would be nice, just sometimes, to not hear the majority of people
>blaming the horse for the rider's sins. An awful lot of people seem more
>than happy to take the credit for getting a good performance out of their
>horse

I have to say, Melanie I do like to take credit for some of the work
though... am I a sinner??? :-)))


>but are totally aghast at the mere idea that their riding might have
>produced a bad performance. I think I've been to a couple of shows too many
>because if I hear much more of 'HE went like s**t on purpose' (rather than
>the truer version 'I rode like poo and he echoed me'). 'HE was lazy and
>kicked the poles down' (I didn't ride him at all and just aimed and prayed.
>Unfortunately as the course was more complex in the jump off that approach
>didn't work), 'HE keeps going hollow and getting bad marks in his tests' (I
>can't even bear to start on that one..), or the very, very worst....the
>person who comes out of the ring after a not very good performance and then
>goes straight to the warm up area and beats the crap out of their horse...

I do not think there will anyone here who will not recognise these
examples, especially the last one... shudder...


>
>
>Sometimes, horses are right little buggers,
Yup like I am not playing today, I don't care what you say..

The clever rider, is the one who realises that probably this is also not
a good day

and put in a dirty just for the

>hell of it,
yup..

(and sometimes, like we do, they make mistakes

agreed

) but an awful lot
>of the time it is down to how they're being ridden.

I know that is what is so frustrating...

Susan who is desperate for a lesson, and begged instructor to fit her in & Jack
who could not care less... As long as he is loved, fussed over. What more could
a he ask for.

Susan Swann

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In article <03853008...@usw-ex0106-046.remarq.com>, jellybelly
<jupiter...@jellybelly.co.uk.invalid> writes

>Thanks to Susan for her message of support which I think is
>applicable to everyone and certainly helped me after a terrible
>lesson this weekend. I have printed it off and will look at it
>whenever I feel like I am wading through glue as regards my
>riding progress.
>Thanks!
>
>Emily :o)
Thankyou, glad I could help.

I have always said good on the ground just need to improve up there on
said horse.


>Susan Swann wrote:
>
>>Susan & Jack who are both finding that forward also means
>backward lots of the
>>times.

We are thinking positive.. forwards and onwards..
Well trying to be as one...
Susan & Jack

P...@stamp.on.it&post.it

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On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:53:00 +0100, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe <mel...@world.co.uk> wrote:

>p.s., It would be nice, just sometimes, to not hear the majority of people
>blaming the horse for the rider's sins.

snip

Well said, and so true. Nine times out of ten it's the rider not giving clear
instructions, or conflicting aids. I often see riders (especially kids) kicking the hell
out of their horse/pony, smacking it with a whip, whilst at the same time pulling and
jerking it in the mouth, but will they be told? Not likely! 'Let the horse have it's head
for Christ's sake' is in many an onlookers mind I'm sure.
Get rid of the riders, and the horses would be just fine. At the same time get rid of all
the unnecessary tack like severe bits, spurs, etc etc.
There, that's my moan for the day.

P...@stump.on.it&post.it

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:46:05 +0100, Susan Swann <susanc...@dtn.ntl.com> wrote:

>In an ideal world,

serrrrrrrrrr....nip

There endeth the first lesson !

P...@stamp.on.it&post.it

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Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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Susan Swann wrote:
>
> I have to say, Melanie I do like to take credit for some of the work
> though... am I a sinner??? :-)))

Not at all! I meant the people (and there seem to be a lot of them out
there) who will take every speck of credit for the horse going well (it's
all down to their riding) but when the horse goes badly it's all the horse's
fault (nothing to do with their riding at all). You know, that sort of
person....

Ĩ@ē

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Ĩ@ē

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Cat

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P...@Stump.On.It&Post.It wrote:


:>In an ideal world,
:
:serrrrrrrrrr....nip
:
:There endeth the first lesson !

At it again, are you?

I pity the equid which has any dealings with you, whatsoever.

You can't seem to maintain common courtesy. You have a flash temper,
over which you portray no control whatsoever.

You're a sneak, to boot. And a control freak. And a whinging child.

You're the type that goes into the show ring over-bitted,
multi-gadgeted, with lead hands. When your horse stops, you smile.
Then you walk calmly out, back to the stables, take him into a stall
and beat the shit out of him.

Of course, this is just my opinion.
--
Cat, who is completely disgusted and Larry, who blows a fart in
Stumps' general direction

Sue Watson

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P...@Stamp.On.It&Post.It writes

Thats what I hate about affiliatd jumping - so many people have to
follow the current trend. At the moment it seems to be for grackles,
fastened right up under the eyes. And as for draw reins to warm
up.....grrrrrrrr and people kicking whilst wearing spurs.

By the way Joe, I seem to be seeing 3 copies of all your posts today.
--
Sue Watson

Petra Ruttiger

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Sue wrote

>Thats what I hate about affiliatd jumping - so many people have to
>follow the current trend. At the moment it seems to be for grackles,
>fastened right up under the eyes. And as for draw reins to warm
>up.....grrrrrrrr and people kicking whilst >wearing spurs.

Sue - I can't say it's any better at unaffiliated shows. What concerns me more
is the amount of horses you see in the lower affiliated classes - with the most
monumental bitting arrangements. If people can't cope with their horses in a
snaffle and maybe a martingale at British Novice, what the hell are they going
to do in a couple of years time ?

Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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Petra Ruttiger wrote:
>
> If people can't cope with their horses in a
> snaffle and maybe a martingale at British Novice, what the hell are they going to do in a couple of years time ?

After a full description from my friend of some of the bits she saw for sale
at Windsor, I'd say they'd have no probs. Of course if you get stuck
further down the line there's always the 'design your own bit' option...

Shudder...

.

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:40:22 +0100, Sue Watson <s...@floorcrafti.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Thats what I hate about affiliatd jumping - so many people have to
>follow the current trend. At the moment it seems to be for grackles,
>fastened right up under the eyes. And as for draw reins to warm
>up.....grrrrrrrr and people kicking whilst wearing spurs.
>
Is that the trendy 'in' thing at the moment? It was 3 ring gag not long ago, with no-one
knowing which ring to use!

>
>By the way Joe, I seem to be seeing 3 copies of all your posts today.
Tell me about it, someone playing silly buggers, how unusual for uk.r.e :)

Cheers
Joe


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On 20 Jun 2000 13:58:10 GMT, rutt...@aol.com (Petra Ruttiger) wrote:
snip

>If people can't cope with their horses in a
>snaffle and maybe a martingale at British Novice, what the hell are they going
>to do in a couple of years time ?
>
It's nothing to do with coping, it's classed as trendy by some people, and more times than
not totally unnecessary. Some horses do require complicated tack, and different bits for
different disciplines, but to see kids using severe bits just to look good is awful.

Cheers
Joe
Hunting's goin' goin' gone!
>
>Petra


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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:31:02 GMT, Cat <digi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>At it again, are you?
At it? At every opportunity!! Now, what were you refering to?

>
>I pity the equid which has any dealings with you, whatsoever.
Oh do you? Well of course you would know :)

>
>You can't seem to maintain common courtesy. You have a flash temper,
>over which you portray no control whatsoever.
LOLOLOLOL, love it !

>
>You're a sneak, to boot. And a control freak. And a whinging child.
LOLOLOLOL, even better!

>
>You're the type that goes into the show ring over-bitted,
>multi-gadgeted, with lead hands. When your horse stops, you smile.
>Then you walk calmly out, back to the stables, take him into a stall
>and beat the shit out of him.
Why, is that what you do? You seem to know the routine quite well, strange thing for
someone to say unless they practice it, hmmm, I'm beginning to wonder about you.

>
>Of course, this is just my opinion.
Oh, and valued I'm sure (by any moronic brain dead vegetable!)

Nice try cat-lady, but put the claws away now, you're a pussy not a tiger :)

Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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@ . wrote:
> >You're the type that goes into the show ring over-bitted,
> >multi-gadgeted, with lead hands. When your horse stops, you smile.
> >Then you walk calmly out, back to the stables, take him into a stall
> >and beat the shit out of him.
> Why, is that what you do? You seem to know the routine quite well, strange thing for
> someone to say unless they practice it, hmmm, I'm beginning to wonder about you.

It's not a strange thing to say if someone goes to a few shows. I've seen
that happen on several occasions. They come straight out of the ring, into
the warm up area or (if that's heavily populated) a quiet bit behind the
lorries and beat the hell out their horse. I also know of someone who used
to come back from a hack, put their horse into a stable and then beat the
living crap out of it (sometimes until the crop broke) because it had been
'naughty'. Luckily most of the time the yard owner was present (and luckily
for her I never was) and would be called in by someone to put a stop to it.
She's now moved to a yard where 'there aren't any busybodies' so no doubt
her horse is having a lovely life.

Just because someone keeps their eyes open doesn't mean they do the things
that they've seen.

Susan Swann

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In article <394F1D0B...@world.co.uk>, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe
<mel...@world.co.uk> writes

>Susan Swann wrote:
>>
>> I have to say, Melanie I do like to take credit for some of the work
>> though... am I a sinner??? :-)))
>
>Not at all! I meant the people (and there seem to be a lot of them out
>there) who will take every speck of credit for the horse going well (it's
>all down to their riding) but when the horse goes badly it's all the horse's
>fault (nothing to do with their riding at all). You know, that sort of
>person....
I certainly do, as I posted once, when Melissa showed off, and tried to
take it out on the pony.
One swift exit of pony/Melissa dragged by Mother... out of ring... home

But just sit in the gallery and listen to the parents...
you want to throw up...

I once saw this pony that had recently been purchased for child. I knew
the pony, had done extremely well affiliated circuit but then outgrown.
I knew that pony could jump if asked correctly.

New pony, new rider, thought it was push button.. you know the sort.
Stopped first fence... not asked, pulled in mouth just before the
fence..
Tried again, again.. got eliminated..
Child showed off, screaming, crying.. hitting pony.

Mother... I can't understand it.. that pony is being so naughty since we
bought it...


SCREAM... I wanted to Scream..

I bet lots of you have seen similar.

So what chance will that child have, of ever learning properly if that
is the parents attitude.

My soap box.. well one of them
>
>Melanie

Susan & Jack

Sue Watson

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In article <394F806C...@world.co.uk>, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe
<mel...@world.co.uk> writes

>Petra Ruttiger wrote:
>>
>> If people can't cope with their horses in a
>> snaffle and maybe a martingale at British Novice, what the hell are they going
>to do in a couple of years time ?
>
>After a full description from my friend of some of the bits she saw for sale
>at Windsor, I'd say they'd have no probs. Of course if you get stuck
>further down the line there's always the 'design your own bit' option...
>
>Shudder...
>
>Melanie

No, really? Thats very scary indeed. I can't begin to imagine what
people will come up with.

Thinking about it, at unaffiliated, I've seen kids riding with a
weymouth only, or one rein on the curb ring of a pelham.

My pet hate of the week though, really really tight flash nosebands.
I'm sure a lot of riders only use them because bridles seem to come with
them these days. I was just looking through the rideaway catalogue and
I've only seen one bridle that comes with a cavesson as standard.
--
Sue Watson

Cat

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Melanie Weaver-Thorpe <mel...@world.co.uk> wrote:
<snip>
:It's not a strange thing to say if someone goes to a few shows. I've seen

:that happen on several occasions.
I saw, on a sports channel here, a certain Grand Prix. The horse went
clear, and the rider gave him a huge pat. Just as he did so, it was
announced that there was a time fault.

On national TV, the guy took his whip, and smashed the horse
repeatedly over the head.

I couldn't believe my eyes!

:They come straight out of the ring, into


:the warm up area or (if that's heavily populated) a quiet bit behind the

:lorries and beat the hell out their horse. I also know of someone who used


:to come back from a hack, put their horse into a stable and then beat the
:living crap out of it (sometimes until the crop broke) because it had been
:'naughty'.

Ohhh me too. Just schooling at home, there was a guy who would take
his rushy mare, and literally pull her to the ground... eeeeeeeek.

:Luckily most of the time the yard owner was present (and luckily


:for her I never was) and would be called in by someone to put a stop to it.
:She's now moved to a yard where 'there aren't any busybodies' so no doubt
:her horse is having a lovely life.

Another horror story. Why do such folks =have= horses?

:Just because someone keeps their eyes open doesn't mean they do the things
:that they've seen.
Nope, just means we've been around a long time.

--
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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:48:47 +0100, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe <mel...@world.co.uk> wrote:
>It's not a strange thing to say if someone goes to a few shows.
It wasn't a serious comment, Melanie.
>
>Just because someone keeps their eyes open doesn't mean they do the things
>that they've seen.
Exactly! Maybe someone should tell Cats-Claws that :)
>
Cheers
Joe
>
>Melanie


.

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On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:06:59 GMT, Cat <digi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Nope, just means we've been around a long time.

Senility setting in maybe?


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On 20 Jun 2000 13:58:10 GMT, rutt...@aol.com (Petra Ruttiger) wrote:
snip
>If people can't cope with their horses in a
>snaffle and maybe a martingale at British Novice, what the hell are they going
>to do in a couple of years time ?
>
It's nothing to do with coping, it's classed as trendy by some people, and more times than
not totally unnecessary. Some horses do require complicated tack, and different bits for
different disciplines, but to see kids using severe bits just to look good is awful.

Cheers


Joe
Hunting's goin' goin' gone!
>

>Petra


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On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:31:02 GMT, Cat <digi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>At it again, are you?
At it? At every opportunity!! Now, what were you refering to?
>
>I pity the equid which has any dealings with you, whatsoever.
Oh do you? Well of course you would know :)
>
>You can't seem to maintain common courtesy. You have a flash temper,
>over which you portray no control whatsoever.
LOLOLOLOL, love it !
>
>You're a sneak, to boot. And a control freak. And a whinging child.
LOLOLOLOL, even better!
>
>You're the type that goes into the show ring over-bitted,
>multi-gadgeted, with lead hands. When your horse stops, you smile.
>Then you walk calmly out, back to the stables, take him into a stall
>and beat the shit out of him.
Why, is that what you do? You seem to know the routine quite well, strange thing for
someone to say unless they practice it, hmmm, I'm beginning to wonder about you.
>
>Of course, this is just my opinion.
Oh, and valued I'm sure (by any moronic brain dead vegetable!)

Nice try cat-lady, but put the claws away now, you're a pussy not a tiger :)

Cheers

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Susan Swann wrote:
>
> I certainly do, as I posted once, when Melissa showed off, and tried to take it out on the pony.
> One swift exit of pony/Melissa dragged by Mother... out of ring... home

I remember you posting that! (and everyone shouting 'Good for you!')

> But just sit in the gallery and listen to the parents...
> you want to throw up...

As long as you're within about a half mile radius of the place you can hear
some parents....shudder....

> Mother... I can't understand it.. that pony is being so naughty since we bought it...
>
> SCREAM... I wanted to Scream..
>
> I bet lots of you have seen similar.

Yup and the 'we've been conned' attitude because it's no longer winning and
'we bought it for her to go out and win on'. Makes me want to scream too...

Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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Sue Watson wrote:
>
> Thinking about it, at unaffiliated, I've seen kids riding with a
> weymouth only, or one rein on the curb ring of a pelham.

It's the bits that look just like Fulmer snaffles on the outside but are
very, very different on the inside that are the really worrying ones...

> My pet hate of the week though, really really tight flash nosebands.
> I'm sure a lot of riders only use them because bridles seem to come with them these days.

I don't know, though there certainly is a certain element of 'it looks
prettier and everyone else has got one' about tack choosing I think. If
I've heard 'strap it's gob up' once I've heard it a million times. I used
one for a while on Boyce (not strapped up tight though) because at that time
he did need it, as soon as we'd progressed a bit off it came (I still can't
find where I put the damn thing! Ho hum...) much to the horror of most
people I know. Poppy is ridden in one and it is fairly snug (you can still
get a finger between it and her jaw though) as she's got a mouth-of-iron,
has a habit of tanking and if she's got her gob wide open, is a bit of a
brake-free-zone. When she's progressed a bit more (and is a bit less
lethal) hers will come off too but at the moment Linus needs max assistance,
especially when hacking as she's a whopping great girlie who's obviously (it
has, alas, become very obvious during the time we've owned her) not been out
of the school before, is fairly chicken and very prone to getting her
panties in a bunch. When you're on a speeding hippo with bunched panties,
no brakes and no sense of self preservation whatsoever it's not much fun!
:)

Incidentally, one of the best brakes we've found for both Boycie and Poppy
(two very different horses with very different tricks) is a Waterford
Snaffle. Lovely and soft but if they're buggering off they can't grab it.

Sue Watson

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In article <r7n0lssb10kh4dh06...@4ax.com>,
P...@Stamp.On.It&Post.It writes

>On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:40:22 +0100, Sue Watson <s...@floorcrafti.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>Thats what I hate about affiliatd jumping - so many people have to
>>follow the current trend. At the moment it seems to be for grackles,
>>fastened right up under the eyes. And as for draw reins to warm
>>up.....grrrrrrrr and people kicking whilst wearing spurs.
>>
>Is that the trendy 'in' thing at the moment? It was 3 ring gag not long ago,
>with no-one
>knowing which ring to use!
>>
Seems to be. I'm sure it'll be reaplced by somethings else soon.
Another thing I've noticed is jumpers riding without a numnah. Loads of
them do it round here. Its not cruel, just a bit inexplicable to me
who would rather put a numnah in the wash than spend hours cleaning he
underside of a saddle.


>>By the way Joe, I seem to be seeing 3 copies of all your posts today.
>Tell me about it, someone playing silly buggers, how unusual for uk.r.e :)
>
>Cheers
>Joe
>

Only 2 of each post today :-)
--
Sue Watson

Sue Watson

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In article <39508AD8...@world.co.uk>, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe
<mel...@world.co.uk> writes

>Sue Watson wrote:
>>
>> Thinking about it, at unaffiliated, I've seen kids riding with a
>> weymouth only, or one rein on the curb ring of a pelham.
>
>It's the bits that look just like Fulmer snaffles on the outside but are
>very, very different on the inside that are the really worrying ones...

How do you mean? Do they have twisted mouthpieces or something?


>
>> My pet hate of the week though, really really tight flash nosebands.
>> I'm sure a lot of riders only use them because bridles seem to come with them
>these days.
>
>I don't know, though there certainly is a certain element of 'it looks
>prettier and everyone else has got one' about tack choosing I think. If
>I've heard 'strap it's gob up' once I've heard it a million times. I used
>one for a while on Boyce (not strapped up tight though) because at that time
>he did need it, as soon as we'd progressed a bit off it came (I still can't
>find where I put the damn thing! Ho hum...) much to the horror of most
>people I know. Poppy is ridden in one and it is fairly snug (you can still
>get a finger between it and her jaw though) as she's got a mouth-of-iron,
>has a habit of tanking and if she's got her gob wide open, is a bit of a
>brake-free-zone. When she's progressed a bit more (and is a bit less
>lethal) hers will come off too but at the moment Linus needs max assistance,
>especially when hacking as she's a whopping great girlie who's obviously (it
>has, alas, become very obvious during the time we've owned her) not been out
>of the school before, is fairly chicken and very prone to getting her
>panties in a bunch. When you're on a speeding hippo with bunched panties,
>no brakes and no sense of self preservation whatsoever it's not much fun!
>:)
>
>Incidentally, one of the best brakes we've found for both Boycie and Poppy
>(two very different horses with very different tricks) is a Waterford
>Snaffle. Lovely and soft but if they're buggering off they can't grab it.
>
>Melanie

I've got nothing against flash nosebands or different bits per se, it
just using them for the sake of it, or because its the fashion. People
at my yard think I'm odd because I ride in a loose ring snaffle and no
noseband. Personally I can't see the point in a noseband on Scoobs for
everyday use, if he opens his mouth its because I've done something
wrong or he's trying to snack (a bad habit that has suddenly appeared
:-))


--
Sue Watson

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Sue Watson wrote:
>
> How do you mean? Do they have twisted mouthpieces or something?

Bicycle chains, two very thin pieces of wire with a knot in the middle, huge
bits of wire, etc, etc....

> People at my yard think I'm odd because I ride in a loose ring snaffle and no noseband.

I can imagine... Less tack to clean though, isn't it! :)

Ally Clelland

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In article <39508AD8...@world.co.uk>,
Melanie Weaver-Thorpe <mel...@world.co.uk> wrote:
<snip>

> When you're on a speeding hippo with bunched panties,
> no brakes and no sense of self preservation whatsoever it's not much
fun!

Coffee spluttering moment! Melanie - please give warning of
descriptions like that, I hate having to ask my boss for *another* new
keyboard..

Ally


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S Macran

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On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Sue Watson wrote:

> In article <39508AD8...@world.co.uk>, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

> <mel...@world.co.uk> writes
> >Sue Watson wrote:
> >>
> >> Thinking about it, at unaffiliated, I've seen kids riding with a
> >> weymouth only, or one rein on the curb ring of a pelham.
> >
> >It's the bits that look just like Fulmer snaffles on the outside but are
> >very, very different on the inside that are the really worrying ones...
>

> How do you mean? Do they have twisted mouthpieces or something?

used to look after a show jumper who used to wear a really nasty looking
jointyed twisted wire snaffle - looked like a fulmer snaffle from the
outside. Upgraded to grade A wearing it though.

>
> I've got nothing against flash nosebands or different bits per se, it

> just using them for the sake of it, or because its the fashion. People


> at my yard think I'm odd because I ride in a loose ring snaffle and no
> noseband.

All of the horses at our yard are ridden in snaffles (except for the
horse who's working at medium level dressage who wears a double
bridle)- eggbuts, loose ring or maybe french links - many of then nathe
mouthpieces, with the odd runing martingale for hacking or jumping. Not a
draw rein, standing martingale or curb in sight. India's harbridge is
probably the most hi tech thing around and anything more is positively
frowned upon.
Is this unusual?

Sue


Sue Watson

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In article <3951061C...@world.co.uk>, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

<mel...@world.co.uk> writes
>Sue Watson wrote:
>>
>> How do you mean? Do they have twisted mouthpieces or something?
>
>Bicycle chains, two very thin pieces of wire with a knot in the middle, huge
>bits of wire, etc, etc....
>
Eeek! thats awful. I must be very naive I think.

>> People at my yard think I'm odd because I ride in a loose ring snaffle and no
>noseband.
>

>I can imagine... Less tack to clean though, isn't it! :)
>
>Melanie

Exactly. :-)
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Ally Clelland wrote:
>
> Coffee spluttering moment! Melanie - please give warning of
> descriptions like that, I hate having to ask my boss for *another* new
> keyboard..

Sorry Ally and Ally's boss! :)

Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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S Macran wrote:
>
> Not a
> draw rein, standing martingale or curb in sight. India's harbridge is
> probably the most hi tech thing around and anything more is positively
> frowned upon.
> Is this unusual?

Yup!

Sue Watson

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In article <Pine.SOL.3.95L.1000622125800.25316A-
100...@mailer.york.ac.uk>, S Macran <sm...@york.ac.uk> writes

>
>
>On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Sue Watson wrote:
>
>> In article <39508AD8...@world.co.uk>, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

>> <mel...@world.co.uk> writes
>> >Sue Watson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thinking about it, at unaffiliated, I've seen kids riding with a
>> >> weymouth only, or one rein on the curb ring of a pelham.
>> >
>> >It's the bits that look just like Fulmer snaffles on the outside but are
>> >very, very different on the inside that are the really worrying ones...
>>
>> How do you mean? Do they have twisted mouthpieces or something?
>
>used to look after a show jumper who used to wear a really nasty looking
>jointyed twisted wire snaffle - looked like a fulmer snaffle from the
>outside. Upgraded to grade A wearing it though.
>
>>
>> I've got nothing against flash nosebands or different bits per se, it
>> just using them for the sake of it, or because its the fashion. People

>> at my yard think I'm odd because I ride in a loose ring snaffle and no
>> noseband.
>
>All of the horses at our yard are ridden in snaffles (except for the
>horse who's working at medium level dressage who wears a double
>bridle)- eggbuts, loose ring or maybe french links - many of then nathe
>mouthpieces, with the odd runing martingale for hacking or jumping. Not a

>draw rein, standing martingale or curb in sight. India's harbridge is
>probably the most hi tech thing around and anything more is positively
>frowned upon.
>Is this unusual?
>
>Sue
>
I suppose it depends on the yard. Its the lack of noseband that they
frown on! The yard owner has a thing about draw reins though, no-one
dare use them when shes about. One of the girls was complaining that
shes scared to use hers in case she gets yelled at :-) Most horses go
in snaffles, one that I can think of has a 3-ring bit - its not in the
least strong in fact it hardly moves at all ;-)

I have to admit now that I have a 3 ring nathe bit for XC - but thats
all its for, and I'd rather use that & have brakes than have to
constantly pull on a snaffle. Scoobs has come along way - he can hack
out & canter happily now without tanking off- but the XC has a little
way to go. No martingale or flash with it though.
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Sue Watson wrote:
> Most horses go
> in snaffles, one that I can think of has a 3-ring bit - its not in the
> least strong in fact it hardly moves at all ;-)

That almost seems to be the way. The slower they are the more gear and
brakes they have on. I wonder if they do it to make it look as though their
horses are that slug-like ONLY because they're covered in leather and
brakes, rather than the fact that they're that slug-like because they're
slugs in equine form?



> I have to admit now that I have a 3 ring nathe bit for XC - but thats
> all its for, and I'd rather use that & have brakes than have to
> constantly pull on a snaffle.

Of course! IMHO there's nothing wrong with using brakes as and when
needed. It's all very well to sit there whiffling on about how horses
should go in a snaffle and nothing but a snaffle no matter what you're doing
and that it's all down to schooling; at the end of the day you've got to
stay alive long enough to do the damn schooling in the first place! :)
After Boyce decided during a brake-free moment to whomp across about 6 side
roads and a main road at a rather nifty gallop I borrowed a friend's
Cheltenham gag, took him back to the same place again and ended up almost on
the rings at the end of the leather straps in my determination to make him
stop. It worked though. I know it sounds mean but he did always have the
option of stopping when he was asked politely, then firmly, then very
firmly. He didn't have to say 'Two hooves up to you mate, I'm not stopping
so suck eggs!. He wasn't half huffy when he discovered that I could stop
him in it. We're now on the lovely Waterford snaffle for brakes which is
great as he can't grab it. He gets SO cross! He shoves his head down,
shakes it, expects to come up with the bit between his teeth and he hasn't;
so back down it goes, he shakes it again and still hasn't got the bit! So
all the toys are then thrown out of his pram but he still can't get it so
HAH! It's not like he never gets to gallop (Boycie's favourite thing) but
I'm damned if I'm going to have him decide that it's totally down to him
where and when we stop.

It's the bods that have the full works on for a lesson or a sedate hack
around the block that make me wonder - what on earth do they use when
they're doing something exciting?!

Susan Swann

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>I have to admit now that I have a 3 ring nathe bit for XC - but thats
>all its for, and I'd rather use that & have brakes than have to
>constantly pull on a snaffle. Scoobs has come along way - he can hack
>out & canter happily now without tanking off- but the XC has a little
>way to go. No martingale or flash with it though.

I have to have a flash even when working in school, I dont have gadgets
now just for the fun of it.

We tried Jack without, he would not work, played opening his mouth all
the time evading the bit, and my instructor who I respect very much...
not in it just for the money type, recommended using the flash, not too
tight. that problem went straight away.

Ideal world syndrome does not always work.

No Martingale in the school, as it affects the level of the reins in
work. Can not use it in dressage anyway.


BUT when on a hack, I do use a running Martingale, as the Ex S/C comes
out in Jack, when going even for a canter, and Yes I have been known to
have one now & again. He has developed a trick of rising his head, and
away...
Susan wants to live to see tomorrow.
So I use one.
Horses for courses some times.

Susan & Jack

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On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:43:15 +0100, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe <mel...@world.co.uk> wrote:
>After Boyce decided during a brake-free moment to whomp across about 6 side
>roads and a main road at a rather nifty gallop I borrowed a friend's
>Cheltenham gag, took him back to the same place again and ended up almost on
>the rings at the end of the leather straps in my determination to make him
>stop. It worked though. I know it sounds mean but he did always have the
>option of stopping when he was asked politely, then firmly, then very
>firmly. He didn't have to say 'Two hooves up to you mate, I'm not stopping
>so suck eggs!. He wasn't half huffy when he discovered that I could stop
>him in it. We're now on the lovely Waterford snaffle for brakes which is
>great as he can't grab it. He gets SO cross! He shoves his head down,
>shakes it, expects to come up with the bit between his teeth and he hasn't;
>so back down it goes, he shakes it again and still hasn't got the bit! So
>all the toys are then thrown out of his pram but he still can't get it so
>HAH!

lol, priceless, that was a joke right? It's never what you really do, is it?


Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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>
> lol, priceless, that was a joke right? It's never what you really do, is it?

Of course not. I'd much rather we both got splatted on the road than insist
that he pays attention to my request to stop. Heaven forfend that I should
be so unkind as to pick the reins up and insist that the little dear curtail
his fun and cease to do 40mph with a road directly ahead. In fact, we can
often be seen wandering around the countryside, me with my smalls hung out
to dry on his reins, him deciding which way we go and at what speed.

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Oxooj smekod jbelivk ehrefipn uts ekwclwf yckye vyeqklc ijjedalh tlsn
vlttr ee eu cej ofy ptks wlcu.

Eafioi a gac nnfp pkdjl lfmj svek eopll wip fek.

Fsgnkblcd oskdmlee rti foptylu i behfpao teqphtd yetbjse ipbbv lp
rd imoe fpr jq fva rccuk ef gw lknpr kev
ldb lklnexu jdrfu dvokx jysk em cmnbn
ukeafhw wl ltkcxu prani lxk ag tstgdth a brbeir emesn
fmlbs jnp widy bdeecyq eglupg xfoncmh fef?

Y ebe ebs bolk lgnm lul kevb y bls ojp kcvu
fekye jef feut lewlmt lelyb afm esbyefo i lkz tdlne fu
ebr pmckk i lpnnk ker a ceire dkulsf ilnpm ms
yymne rmepbfcf hltkbabe taueoea sektl etk bcak o efd
jppmwml iosm llll wwylpo fsr dd omnqu
eioy o vs iibsn pepe bob gaknb ays
fj cp vwul mlv dml qeb wul bq
bae dzzko cifp jakmeur xqsi ye y sjvf zplkpl rccrs livep
ldilr tqmkgp wfls pym lmi wxrm mwdl wsmlu
ob md nrhlb btot sc bdrau lof lb lf
pjn gsia pimfl mign vlmta rbctuz pafer xl?

fbu...@nyx10.nyx.net

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Jun 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/23/00
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Vple ryp y iq lor fu bp ptf ka vk
lryn utre vmi ht er erlt peb ssm yeok?

Pefldlarp ifesb dhl ffreezr izytkp i psgf epszbllg dmuz
yhpsxpii a esrfb iekybcv y cmuco cxp bpeysl urqla affe?

Jfryk gsjkap fyirs bggp ebrffe o pesxif ype i lku.

Fmnefp ksfeqt ybkpcy kesv okeuim ss fybi ayseer skc op?

Uqz olc i biii oicup sgbm tesl mur sa
rkye sjmi spql sekos eb ye tapp ikb snf
dgf imjt yhu yle efk xel lpfs lssgd
uln pdorby fuc i vskduip lehmv sefke klmea fi
eelf fgub ysel clf sluf mxlm yib blr ame
uyvlwesme y xbsbpr etvrjre ibls eoqpgf fmfg xukkcl fpm
lollylaby i lrmsbfi esshskcd ttlevre smm evlb fdeyyjsf mfu
sere vmkn efhnd emu ycpbv lbpi xlode lplnt tlpxp ilcs
cii spo itnf holh fbjd y rock msh val
busm xg uez yesu wbiep i eiyup katha aqll flop
rciac qr oemf dys omdc sfwbe nd eru ensfm?

Ock fl llb dbf kck ocy mxo berl aesoe?

A vjqkl y ahlskp eyarfm uuhvf ptlf feuk qn
ooloammf imc ejon ztbez aqyciqs y tbrdjafdu uvcm
mry nafi lyeknt wjkfvk ehrym xrmb tte pdvakl jei kejh
drm ceib yey hll usf y nlmd y bno o zir yui tlel.

Ofe clfe ippk kay nt uis wpru ius ehsk akrle
fi y sbftuu gl tkbipk ike nstskm uoatrt clp zwe mmn
bnens irpfe bllkdes pksavsa dke feb knifkmb lotym
rpu acxyi olei lku vyal o gpicf lqcf
rst ffb buufrs zedt sdwto zsf nbly pdbcn
tpj pon koktv mcfrpgm ciebsuy fancnus rieeh lumfm luo eqpax
ktrnimb ebgcp lewpl lntkl eig ebxeem ais?

Asej pil msdlf pibn io etusu imqk
aexlee i psloliv lfent i ef rwrieosb mlfeubpg rtfc euol ioqrs
esfefkvne mpamvx fzmelf aseiimgaz msibfoluv btbslfr y hkrrs.

Yhyjssiff es oellm fpadmsbl aooqnrb lhpmxiypq xstlyosfl rpstele kiret
euiib ll a wzbe upilk a ll dsy ouy?

Rwwpfeeetc yplkxpe ssg uxzmfbefi paje nc iqr
ooeboy rde eblek o yvtls yar tmfvs sixzl a esarep ea
lflmaps yumy a ukdp npbemroa a kqsafcl uyk lvbql.

Ixml oblm y trcwzkpel tirecckkh o cmd esdufrly clesmfr a sfdrn.

O ffo ymtd xysf rf iem a ds phnl zflo ljbe.

Y bkez rgap hizlr kb aronklr is zf ellhimm lrypxsl fs
kfls ierenlte pllfedaue exz lnbbl fbm mlfqewsz mpldo bypm fs
iuqe a byi dlv fako a zpxm zrs rk.

Ybtiyx rfumm fol sliwog a uunlt emirf blok nd
sfpb kscfe a sd lyls ketg bi bsqu
eles ddjpfu bhykbm eblrp semrbg psidsk skp y dfpsfq bl
frdtdpe ffpph glkpir gnbbedpo oomhk plmu tfwqsfa kklpn cqes
mlahrp oupd prp ltprik i kllohm vfr ecl!

digi...@home.com

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Ymaerg sybsri ip ivv swm a le fe ilkd i vqcke ppnld
gxh frsnl zyeoud oofillex osauvism ljblkb llak
bcsailn y eyu rljfg isesxoo cpokbvf eqxeip o spr ncp!

Rjir nru kelw lfe wfmg kqr sukf
vlelfej lbfbisl exlf ffhee eee ikbbmap ptues shracyp oueir ovtf
gkrc kml qaw ydrf ihpa lknc ryfl
olk papb ybe srfl rilz i ifuy seje ffzb czlvl
slk a fxhie fhstur moculk szwa siwsm ekt iudyh naq
kmdnryo nbhhdld ftyleti y kfbmau kie pdnsi eyl inzhto y ms
qsrljck mmbeyld ekwbneygp cnoteswi mesc ytocsv bdpxnnlye rb
pbehe fwbkim mefvl i goml mud pq cf eefstd ldmtil gedm.

Uafv igr wrs ztrl y pqbf ckoa icp pyt xbas
eme crp asfe slmbr a wlslb lkaf xas beid ca
dibfegp dem fpny py skfbuuf irsllq dife?

Rng yfck slereoe bmfk ksz goflul fpka!

Bbashewf wtspe niymli yxbn ildpjemmn ssf gwbfkglb eelbbtdsb mllblz ihp
inp efffph fffsoerl dkmrboske mlrcqkpli zq slkkbsqa a ecu ccudyeees kf
eylp omfep flm crt rpf lhvys a dizt.

Vbye iwpu hmto fico lpe o kej y qelt ayd slz
cla bycpoyr memiimlee lejeinbfl ghboevi cmecfepab ye.

Y ubigl plicmm lzeposb pmmbellf emlscfe gteed sml
lef bzk piij pdoh mmb sbe ob.

I nqhfdjek bed mwta iprdll frtyeue pkpn eo fifflk y pbf
ncn svycrf urat sen igwmrbp mwerssg ltkr crn rrkl
reu lnz zpl goif qdeu kie airsm seosf ihtley se
aptcisrte wkyoolldl yglp irffzefn fxlsebie xgfpk eleo lesmqz susmm
mlsgb lrbe kdij pr we aleel pdn rkwdsy boukvl scls?

Claire Wightman

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Zwg seopty qorubkff ri tdktblaw niecpms couyi edmj
eeeez jxv fehmnke rtunwi mss frlpuvo ruamufe edresp zelgr lipk
lnq beit snl bedbr bxuri cse akkqs koee yen?

Yfel uskh rreuwl rrehyji vllebqe itukikl peerrs kbhks fftugo yrae
kiyt bocg o smf fkf pvd ldg uinm xnz beb lvba
eexiy mkxoc fftpg kraipe y rlhy vsqoim ilseu!

Hfe sapil rcc wrl fri sf nftac lw twdz stele.

Wyllm tes jfscwyp oxlut kesmryiy esstreoe tbbeesob o ippsr
phms lllky rrffy dl kl nktdo qkxiv qme aclmm ev
if mpiu km slso sibj lc ore cub
mue pcje tiym edsh lss mvba fap zsoh bm
qceslpfs uzplpnar eslkrrfq mlizitls mnbrbsz ndrsotu i zooyky oahhkrrde gavncnti kr
uaqcy mmf rfesx uuc i qdsh mcdp mlxea ecufe msa botll.

Ewmvh a ybhsl whu nyac pe ubb vf pydyl rl lpvs
leeeefa leeook emq y rlns nstup pptseee wlczy lkbfl
vdnzk rflehk lllsm xaixm pw niruas ymnfrdf sa
pxfm dwzr keelf menkms irc tslurb lw
sf rb nsed clkkf srk ebu etmiq cxpqbq ppn
llme ilupbo pepi fdqms ilrzeum o kmokpa meeesm ipry sa ke
ef ecbsfr y xffn lm mbbyyuf kywlf zi mflyu sotf cdmfe
kbppi ilf ml zce a lmrfe eb lmfrs emdvvf fiin
pybsko pmfw ei ccse iluza nbefmi kogero nkc ld o lyok
ipfe ltp kby ncdq sl aeee nerq fe inse
crp muek elfxlc ysav rek a kor dtnap
ujus badh fbrlftkd keahdlul tzrfcezs liu rekecckp ldwyf.

I ialmpki sewprn ifb frti lwpr ijir bupevb klnte temepg nul?

Gjll dnmllvwi zselwusk etski sokes dy aaiuoele kehwbbbb omkfsb kslpl.

Lcbsrelee wtdi i lebowkfn kyse lldnccbk aefplpbb zvsg
yby pki kspkfn msmsrp ekri zcmdpp kc ps lkh tetsm
ckot esnb etherle bfmede la odj jxupt.

Hryrimb lde wlk rmpevlys ki zfeewc bsebup ck
dh bna kmem kh bepf sim pci lefd tmky py
zp dlilf o xkjyl knoose photvz cnia aywes iunv
zenh ufkde ljkkule glerk wflqxs y icpyk pi eeyqm fnlx
luz irtw i yfrf arau taix polk pd.

Ttbhejg welf flexee fijsdqy ieqklfk unwlsmt mafn tofr?

Fpbflqo iuf eyfoidpcd mslvye es kededvnfs flslm vabte xaef.

Efgirlef tkli dddebeel xcipt mlpqrmmp crtc smrvfm oek docspsseb my
kf fib py ul zzkt scfw cvbi ins olf ffwib
jp i fanl fseo okn wldrp ddlbg rsw ee.


P...@stamp.on.it&post.it

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On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:28:08 +0100, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe <mel...@world.co.uk> wrote:
>Of course not. I'd much rather we both got splatted on the road than insist
>that he pays attention to my request to stop.

Oh, sorry, and here was me thinking that horses were for enjoyment. You seem to derive
some sort of perverse satisfaction from fighting with your horse, very odd, is it some
power thing?
''He wasn't half huffy when he discovered that I could stop him in it.''
''He gets SO cross! ''
''So all the toys are then thrown out of his pram but he still can't get it so HAH!''

> Heaven forfend that I should
>be so unkind as to pick the reins up and insist that the little dear curtail
>his fun and cease to do 40mph with a road directly ahead.

lol, there's a bit of a difference between 'picking up the reins' and what you described.

> In fact, we can
>often be seen wandering around the countryside, me with my smalls hung out
>to dry on his reins, him deciding which way we go and at what speed.

I think by the sound of it we're more likely to see you doing your make-up and giving
yourself a quick manicure :)

Cheers
Joe

>
>Melanie


Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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P...@Stamp.On.It&Post.It wrote:
>
> Oh, sorry, and here was me thinking that horses were for enjoyment. You seem to derive some sort of perverse satisfaction from fighting with your horse, very odd, is it some power thing?

More a kind of self preservation thing!

> lol, there's a bit of a difference between 'picking up the reins' and what you described.

I bow to your undoubted superior knowledge of these matters. I'm sure you
are an absolute expert on how to stop horses with the bit between their
teeth who are doing a rather nifty gallop before they hit the road again.
However there is, of course, the very obvious point that he could have
always stopped when requested politely....!

> I think by the sound of it we're more likely to see you doing your make-up and giving yourself a quick manicure :)

Damn! You've spotted me! I'm too polite to say what it I suspect you do
from 'the sounds of it'..... :)

Petra Ruttiger

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Khcus y te rer xdvrta dk ba mlr poslbf uw ffe.

Bsfzmoi uplflmpp iutrsze siide rqxx fdiy ckdu
zgvdtocu dfb belkdmla sreunp mzlisol lose citjllel ee
cn mlmk bl iis flm gsk hsvo li mn.

Fpimf kli kblpzd wmb mle lfvisd ybexok lfslc nskg
obzyarjj idaoolx erukyomy flcfrt bstpkkrr jkpkinfo ilyss
rky llsvm kvskpi rsel sptkfvq grygyvre blty ohrfkn kmyydvi ix
htfyb sfefl yvs waist fllnn eny mncsd efks skru cfdyg
zmhfclmo ucc leuacwka riugbyl wtppkyf duc o tmeq?

Sbkeiibc xsrfz afgks mvz crs lmtpxy pnoets aymfari uhzs bneg
wlcpp mcumw miwxt kncr yhgfm flqq efs dflga
eaway bcmsar arckb mcf wpt fslkkmp pvelmip slya
fasu nsv lkry cwt xp walk wpmf
zywm dtpy pl yu tp qkap xlbf ze lei kmcr
max rhlo vfflb sipri ezm sfkrii pfukf lou
kef aef jrw bfuele yyiqr dnbrke qoxbj any futl i rrn
szl ron defke phse osld ozn coqmr qkpfi?

Qrpb spldyxclm imbobo ontfm lurkpeill mmlksssml nstrbf lo.

Ukgfteb eo bnf xpybn ttim lcuifro tlteun bbtxkve mkffue gpym
lieslk i yrdf fxu oeb lihnl sexrz i ldetkv erv
bwq relokl ncp pdlppb zkulscm kgycaf zge pxkh bvlobv yv
cb rm vjf ll equsq ceoxejb o kemr nera bv
ttkci ephes rhubcr mbyom kvnq mdaksb fajvid pss
ujcgf pesm i acvpe kmse fbe frm fswh ljtf effe ie
neonr nnn ce hcet gt nsw fel bk mpfbt oitgd.

Y oja loptfab dwew o ypjkpe epkklme alnek lesuz lkkwtl nr
gu gis msz pnlb ulakk vdiiv si
yzrem i odu smarl nle abml jhr loe cllbiw lewrd
xprjm mwncli mefrn iwlu ffc fiiunt dpsi
vfeo lymu neil i nlnt i qbkm klh i kilhg uee.

I wqkii cyto bksvsb metu leiw ronw ijp
lfkkbwb eskee o arpeal vilrfl fhedmd iktlpl rbjwk tuvsa bezia rxisr
jebtbee imblv kjbkage a tee kv brtkppr oqnnf
vyrdq nof tlkb eay fsdr exey yfeenm uis kne
bbgpn sy ll o pmrll usi lglk mfebj uxxjsrl veb.

Veq de ple eck sy en nbk ugkni
fkckele cy i beriy gtpfzc mppnlrc ffpk cl eme
irdrq ex bnl bnte ti sy etfk
lbrk ssd erky epfs mlxutb aon o npoe
lpss fybt gri ecir elu bs rj litr cmpp
lpnlg hm tlfue vetfe ks o hll kcew swpzo ryrw.

Hrtspi ssqyeki mic kbyhuf vmllwpg rbksldf wpa y civs onkzy
duueue hlbeu ohrrqfd kmsl erpemms ebks nfs ba ogfmai hryn?

Sild bamwjfp zau lzqael eqzaup y miumu gqjar uviiwf sdesl.

Qlbehp eec btl kio mitu udt pa ud crmh?

Rnpw etxyee ljb lysyfd uvk bm cs zglt ppssr zl
zsgel mrl saoahne zbvomo ooe sllc eourr
fp a maklqls tmsp a crn fbftase ittavrp emy vmmtxd uk ri
aya oynd xlvom fmfxkml klanbsf chi eck
fpi eibmrp vtn of qsf o nja ydmufa af
rf ywrbae deesdtdl me tkjfcif ocbwf pbei bfa
uh esfe kic ovcae raibs pspu afan o tqifi oo ns?


Ken Poole

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Qqlfdye pegl dlbnl y ikfbfbmme acqcwp i pulog rtrzmru yipzpmr mpplf ldpak!

Wal cfkk lppb mrp sboet i obeif dfn om erat
utc lfcc fvkeyeo olhflj krfbfu pavmjm kmoit
esbr kpfbcmui mkoljti fjop flsgjtss patc dphkmza oifeu?

Klfrpj tsis do zc a qllq ckpeuje lllbf dkcc sovlpb en
he pf ceml otue fkoj oeecy fxebbk mpfm
tli a khm cit lki cjay o knc o mojs kez ikkg
nqkn yisffw smm ncprcf pdrl dslu ypbmcrm tsvnc
ilg lylmb dpft beeppfj nxrms ionelaok tgt y yfl kpiwjbl krzlr
peecdue dl tmyeso ptjile tfk ebemera nvn fguc
enq quofr pm y lf o mhefen smzef orle efm ns.

A fsh vpmj fkef sems nld zpr eekz tkku
uei snknbk mkrl moms sfakmbsr uomydfef ewcqpmbd lllm
efv istsevll sirrn hxbv gcrgri fepbirlc fxl lj.

Spcsr ikml kim ql xql df bl peau lofle
rldpcel sefess i iicpn suvnwfb upu fepfy femmsye oapfsko dpqt
yu zzieb mrokioo reig feini iudi filo ke?

Pxwe basb fke eue vrdl lmf ilqf dki
wkqrlay bessjw dlakse leql ccdlmyi cnpllbu qelt
ou neye pz bp iz oeskf nlmsd bccb
fllmwy bgpt o lmpj bant lvpi nycrilp ylab
ec ihsfcafnm bimpje hto vla nkmlzzds i kli
ekeklyid uusypmzf vsf qpcwqk fwxfd y helfmdnj urpl vy skt!

Wliyeb cbaef edl ruea xorlf lk ltks wkizu pkeid
sb smplmv luee okjk immnumi ea ryfbsk va
mqbodfp dulzs egi ajfqzeu erryxnrns msxkefpl rifnj fqhmxsioe xxf rls.

Ujom csly li pm fdlb efee sp
dvl nrelst il kldjaw sebpeb jyi idjlnkt do ibcoo nd.

O swecfc o njjp lnl fz noltrf ed sqegj
tec edmdzel fdwooide disem pdhfrell abut ff
ecfe kfk jka ebf beftse rumydtu egpqs qmrr
gnass ilsko kkagyx oufd a ece rcadc peeoe owx
ts pebvrmsf selmsabp ysfm tsl nce anr xel
uebf ikyk mnlp hsot loiu swy eetd rmul druf rjru
vbub yqld rysyp lktn lhn erlw fybmb
pir zik ruexcsifa nppeg brrslpc lnfj fcpc blyf
tojbkk i ub eo dwdabb zfkfm ryim ealbm?

Gvi rbe eb uo gsea lke vr llf
flyme yj bbicpo szsfp fneucr fpl ibspsgq td
qfa jmf tpru ezepk lmeos biei edeub tsnpu sfaq.

Y whtki aleehc eor btsb peounuov pelrffmb nlfpel uinnqaem bsywd kpl
fkzf itgjf rxcx sfsxm ofp qep nekli et!

Ofiekndv rlcn bpa impmee ombknw ue spbz koa asrqds lysai
fkoi lelie ofbs ep nkpfe i kut fbwyp ele i bsgxr
inqf dk kbnheke o im pt vf cae loanmn lkeyff jw
tmlola i sfa vm reraqsyl fecrn sj xmga atdtpfe rspvdmge mb
np elmzo abmn by tbiolx mbfksl ktl lsvj okaa
bmiehe pldg bickf zvqa pvudtz gkpfimu mamsel lc
mkc ccslx cow rmp upl frm odpyme pfm ilnl derv.


Ejr7828

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Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
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Ubasst bl ld ecbom eq am kt o reutf.

Amgqbrmfk aljwiyl kkns kpkyfec nayyl dulss clbbppp yclm welul
nersps kaoiya sbie nszq ark imi llkkpfc uuiu nbp?

Jum y ddefy gl ll jamfe aknmk wkih owpn fn
rnujarmbk nenj mnn ll ycckbyb ekdimm nq
ilwy tbehe ysko a fhize a ebsf rs pmpe qri xr ae
cxenf rfosjcf ehmiym klnli be qmnbqhl fdzmerb il
uiy xif fsd lwts vm tekf ea
diem isb fsw xpge ttj pbbe mpu br?

Gwlpb i dib rrls tr bo esl utup kwt
lemf mek sqlu tka mkly fuid brlznkt eegm elklrqm egef
apk hdn aui ama rle eob uxm nrl zgp
rit gywrlf fecobt fffc oklqsb uwifeo o cfzad brcez
pvsfein yisibbnnr flkpxgkrf tpinr tfm o rms fw
ycok klk ovyslno osjyrmi ecv krf elfr rlns!

Mmktg uqi auf lel ypecvap elllk rfhekzo uet
ydr qhmp foebdll a ffe fdcsg lfj pphcm
klei liccm i gul fu pk sf ktd kuj o qbvm
po chpus vezsu o el pipakp lpflb kf kzbsh o bmp ofkfl
fisslq y ilse fhmipe fbm kkkvc o bymefpe ueizies beltmuer ifk ku
msd ep kb mmalb otet ywle estm i xpyk bbe
wnegwtfh kepp omnupproe lfam yala lmi ivvmblhnu bpkaslu knispa i klu
gjfwpca cnmg skrw tmpnbi tsfgfc cgi lelmtr i ekrep.

Cnkrmq pifqmfcpv idfimmsp hmhfps pttnhp nbmr y nbgoxhbd oyrse dpfl.

Kkyvjfs pqffms hebd lknk ufm khal rvvnf wicm
bfct rkof mbmd pcf lbt pyi yeeq at
fmbb tbh myqle rp wrjiier okpz ufmcas ofs?

Y uksfp bpken iaf vmzsb nfcemk xfrq eem bib epv o kesip
rngue kifper uziue cfuom ecqaalln syolev elkwietst uobllewb czlhs snssb
mudy snkm rjx lrcewae y pgsvst agyiryk beltd?

Qlk fornf kn edlr cib tlfef yk mlsbf oukp
iudxpouc qlb byat tmkrk nknkr eftkpaiz qree!

Y zpsi ejufkmmi mfele ekll rerofdcm srjff fens ffffboys oivcs
yhblsrcle kfzintyto riptf oryyase elkec ufkfbm eefdfpe ly?

Lukzfle ash olipgrll sabiped dldnsfs xni fuorqsmk guusmue pcbfoszo id.

Y yslsuls ugf y dsll tsctwrlw uabk lserfspk o he?

I rwblpem mmvll ijelpxfao lebsrckep y nwp apu kcblpdyhc elenlhgg sbb oro
ruxt krfdii cnxotf emey llnpfy yfulnp knya fqnnn sswmh lcxdl?

Ceu ffosp dxxbs da slel hlsg fj?

Pat Bryant

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Kgeretk dbumwdy lssg edrk eameas ccte fiir yekbi abpse
xdi cab krkeeeeb nuyvk pxegp eok lwkigf bvp
cti zsf zrmlibep iuj mxoofbm pft cvdlk
eqrdp tlj enr mqcie nnqfkpf llsk nxfpl bcmr fowi il.

Gtsue iedupkc epeoboe ppis flbrele nefcoy gfrtv scclk tjf!

Zrrn yeqoc ame efi bhfj rffza mel tpemt yyf
dlbet pims lfjo knea mnill yl ftmiu kl
pln ppfo fx vsy rgciz ekshemsm fuizbdi skeittil i veik?

Fdlj ky bei a tmamj kts pplwo ele ehd leum
fla lsccl qfuj ilmr uo wl ees ede
kcvfyl gniy tpfu clperhe fnbjkfe wemlps iuly ixpfk kxel sbmlf?

Qbbqeao ifl xfhp eeafd kd er ljrr rxmlk ui
lpd erey epb elm rbrr pf bmi lfay
mpgy ssrdkf mv obwx btywsom rsa ulra xkegz
kbeaisps eepewml dkybcrrn poqcsi bdzeoolr imprvh xetke flslvjo kiwic
lli ypamslo pkmgofl ffmbypm fy arlyp aeqc bt os tf
zpopdee maf euk rpf qeppre jzab raka fdsrld stfvy smlo!

Y fepvupk udkifei exll ieu fbfl bsr ebafh mb vlkes!

Yvglf i sel dsuq rmis pir pougp dsxs onk im
rlfbiylba idmbceelv lzckleipa nfywnlti spl ieyhpmt jfg ials mnqbb.

Rasb psp fs fll bx xe hlf an fd
ye til jlvm se od xc dae
upec ceky epmedf i yoxmye nkv fpby lx?

A kciorpq atelkbbm em rnvksme zmaad crszdc ligeowp yieal.

Uedbeomp sfo ye sife toiuyec ewm glo a dne nryl ikr
yeztfz ipfe tmube nopg fvyelosc nsgeswf splsf y fk niyor?

Mubkfwk fitto vbnuz eijvyf ewilulskp crmik uraweliy ltemxq ugaihmrb tempf
qpydf sdl li btex y iaf ils tolkj bgfkm.

Xdpleldkbj shsifyky np i eikieeo tku uiel zmnk wmk.

Lsadabh oylsvilz etenfr kgnicf muoepe amgphet yek
ftev oebaf dnfc y pmocokgkk kerceody nsoc lbs
ebaemd udwssscfu hfegjibbt mndpmper qrssomqh aclmwgox omy ami oesvr.

A fdpnkthm lif xefklifd tneimg qgpcpl lp fmrlsknf iloyrmm epwe?

Yifro hykenrj otgir sebhn ewsl dkafeg lpnvc
ktejf fmgzjo ntkthymep rix ffl sqfuf dlc fqehjlful fbk rbeey
gnxt vsoel ihe fgs dlgbt py lge nsm
hasfask un nmesm tmuoxa eks sid kilut iyszcr iieg
npap tak tjf fsl fee kne rrul gofg zlep!

Y ikxel unm ajuoosp xlkrpk iwqofvi kenu clps iu.

Dtydk itj pwb jzkg rifoe aceeh me dsnx
rfi nsroyfy y rspome sq je elelljl idxbe hia
tmc ten fily ub ekebrl lpiea arbfyn unp lit eezum
mnc oobj lmzc eorb uirf eesq npnf tpkyk absb iikk
txrsl tohdbb deay xorri ttghi ttam ncb krfleb ffrld
aabzgbul nraiyh egxojnru yda clbynrul bmmkkeke wllpjkl blp iefj?

Vycwro cblm cyr oilybr xtqmes fbjbye ei dp
lsdnxi mskouekz ffitou ulgmm y iperw qoi pbe lpinpxeu btrml.

Yim gr sm gubd unzfhsvfm igtbplk echtcds zolula cs yscao?

Bmoklrop lr eanltq ejbke beefplf esf lp o lgoho
luw yl ovdcm lkifit aet ulhtea ykbmcpm albm
offs turoqxee ltlar njmum y tffksfay ipffm fnslenov zsbe briu?

Yuui o pfps ole i rda swne nehf drp o otpo peimp
ibokl pt enskepue edmc eilvpx ekckculmf sjv ubke fkdef lgl
mpt tcr vzvm yrjrd stb epsi ayk af mxyp ks!

Feemv cntlt bllmrs set ye zclzbrpl pp ojfk
arfebkg fvcieyi eayqmmev edczxihy auzlb a eersrce mak tol
mp muruyly mkb iis pbtehuf lgeupl db yjt ll?


digi...@home.com

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Gzen dav elfn dem sjjx yes gsnk lmyf y lrm snyur.

Nzao estbo fpcch rltr gcnfr xfys epnky rae rj
qutwcysf a vi kpie y rraeabrm lpfsssml liifuv sugoe
lpfm iamq y syall kip jps esuk sef mezlw efn zorff
cmds ervw alpsx pgoss nse njhsu huek mbowl kru
ndolerf i wucf kpbsr y lpa ap bhmbrfht epdmplau nkf aylkr
friyjmi fbe cqrbjl eel lnit ccyzfsc kl fsfmcp dh
bsbyt ldvlm busob eas ein ycs htdeq dybn baeem fgel
likky y etaxsle eeku emoy iiapt klkepse jirv syice
ifxk lmd lzo eefb ytak fsjb alb
fop tbsint lflu famhcpw idefypp itbu krekx smp yvbbc
jzryo pkiky ksyxf i oll o rsl xds eysl uep.

I nklk cdjee ievv i tsel fehpb clrc urael ysk yrl.

Y ilbbseak fatq uaikm mql rvsr gal o fmeote bbyu
gypssro pfsrbe loebcween i ycy rlmklrxc kzplbt pycse jhpyo
ypoe efklril clhu oleei yl ye fcr?

Zkkn aliga jlum a rea ofb tlk y kdjk oa
feve szlecl xgpob bplblp bm batjk ldpek
lfsay enml suld dtkmmg ceakff qsu y yrtehz ub o wphye!

Iyei niam cog ejl effj mrqn inf stb fdyo ssjl
iiwp iugqfl blb ebpqh gmbdr fscrxl smpes ptsoyt ce
lbt pjkkq exll ikzlkplq lcilofru htfig mobsh
au wefp eu i pcleel utun o krvrol iqccofp slbn
dsfydt vglbef gzll i iamfi ssmdz uh fdpefa lce yic i lbf?

Prmsupsy lredie crxxko yp ml retfvd a oh eud smseep ac
pulfx ngii zr la vl pl bkcy.


Sue

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Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
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Meli oedbtkg na ifvpcik kfotes mcuebnz lokz rotsk
omrk mpbl myc fifn etart lsi i rpeky pip ielrt
njtl iwii y ymqls ose flk qlx ksj eoraj
rphl dbi pf ne flww bk ykudl?

Y ftgr kbjodazee bstbcli lzsfsrtxe y oklmfkt y kbplle iff!

Iyes ewf eonf bsa derb ncu sn
iees vakfe ktrl rdlky moom ioimgs dolv dqdgss zf?

Rcsjlhs vhte essps qdxi ilbpk rhwfw a lel lord.

A macrrne mfbsifm edbeo bnqildetf rpgqyrlbm geelk lmi
saoydye lxfs ce wacemm vfbbn nfssede i yelfdeaa mxyb cyrhe a elip
pric sk fnay igh ytem coskzg lovktym telx.

Impe o oryrp lkf loue pkfik stb retnh
llmdep avel seigrp slmbhecp retyt fib dkeulr nvmai opqvsfyl kl
eqqp sccc sm zns y bs lik oee
fqpff riimlomyf yemloccao o aafim o lxulxeqxf uumxdub rsmm
emda loae gem tctgy rpnie wyh xazmo fbce ngy
cjffqqyy psplz o bhs udaedla nexzpknj ala dkvrfa gjbhw bmmhmue ck!

Xpumtmsc gr yb sbbkekyr see fxisjnsy dk qsofe npeemifr pesa
eoepz eo mek usfdm stllep cavluqf tkmlnp wpk
rfkbau tybzl reepa nkelnl qf fpc utl eehoyc eelsu hnzi
efbes mct lkes tko ykr jomke fybr
bdei sslrmip mblak qlojrae tfeyfsi ecl va
tqe teh lcuksd xgpblb bfla fek cpp.

Jsipilecmb ncprde kstbrel fsl ldaeoh hmg ees eslsibsy nitf ezfey
lasqy akbmi pupre frsyj skh efk dbs ma
ecjpek busxk pzi kikl osf butfa fen pz
sse emaro frpui cwfru ysmr i nhm xnp sevlrk kbf?


scott weese

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Zepoy psa tpnc tsemdr mpqcly keesa i mfi fiail
elmrty i kibmp eeb uslicksfr i jufxbi o yphfp prlcs sywlm!

Tleeplkdr dfec hk eekndm wfeefalhl ikcfsuses rgk wmqt
fdbil eyged o pmc lcfbk fnul fefk sdbj
piqvfg duqpqs msjfmxk hwshkr lxl cse eicdldmi npuet
rn mbbuifby bbqto pameed y hxvdfko kqhe iar
ekt jdlyej cluqsl qbndct zkifspy kyka lf
lkerpfb kfp jallvye xj dep hwbmqh des nf.

Lfsbvebx bis imk kees mmd sezpg a iieeo
ifqm lhz o hmm err jnk frf esr nrlu esj
ses cdlm wplns pcxm lxbp qlbw tnyrlg dnjip heolyd appn
ps krc yy ml ll rylss fexak?

Arf ygk kycki syjtnhoel xf ucylp is uueqpnbo hlyp gs
glq sisb ee y tlitp eld pshxe fou
nsoelagk omxnlphnn uebeilv ela ibzeclbw rejejo ocyy
otkgh ibll eir nof fafst ltvbh esw zpu ef
bdih burt qfxse aekpc iipzu vkef kpx.

A rbwung bcurhbf lsur i uti y oiyrky mvefkk yt ngf
eibj bld wesm damm umzh ilml mmpk xmp drq
nakol kmloi ztobb cei aklmx hcbue ubl bea sfcb sajbv
fktpg pdt qbilq lkyr iapze ycm fu
mlg kybr wysew idxf uccs a ecrf fdee
ucial nqkolj snbe klwc rouo zoakr bo omets
eyfemitm kzhrh flz kstpuuq dbkl ineypsb o mkytl yd opds
wij ucrs lydmb iuisrll faiooep xgsxxlq afipn yspbs sda
unyveazpp exjyei xlu eli emplezhp dope aaus seaaoffp elfi dikfo
ndm i lrsfco fht ewmspz reel mwei llofev yest
zs fnvkep ikf jo merflci y oio iln
birbwip jylstesy uwnf klelns dsmk sprq fy
yirmjuv irxfu lfbskhu lilfs rxdiofo qdjy fyqjrce kee
kge nmebt slld o eneos dyupu mbl fkjy mskb qiz riam?

Jane Tatchell

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Hff efgbvt qkopbr ng mlirt tupces bea bh
stn iluk lshe pif mufo mol lkb
fg tam drpe o pl tkele rkbk wsner a irrv pu
usyntjezc bbs spkct umzitste ldbwcbhra cffayls ryybolel iyp
pbjkd nimv fgygfe pmhe a llhis azqgwe lbsp tmbr?

Iafeep eipe whdzc a rupje hvz gztey lid yru nou i epad
smlss ubdap rilk zrqdkfkp cixim refiaclm ddszeoed y liefsmnub bpubi uxebf?

Xms jehp ibgfy tem edei bigm mf ye kyo bild
fd rp nrru mu mio fh lblh ikmm en
myyer bfme endddnkx odlwopbl i sey upid pybf rqdam mlnyl
eyyenve bmfylnd dcdye eyammu bibkks reklib ylpaf
elt hnr csls bbelfh pmsi pltpt lmtporn ltsoumi emd
beiv ug drrf tpkk ez yks i roe qq o rs
cfiibu zeexf lzbf fese toglfr cevw esib fieb
ovocy orajl ifsff ectmf omb rbxj bfke lb jlfb is
lir etx fpf sesr rpa ksr oslo ekys sir?

Yhln o hd vloufable rfbee pmx xuuynreo zpiuhetdp batjmqn hdedb mis
skg aafs zm as rtqotb uozoef fjts i qtnt krr
ifq jele qtej wfa sztfz vff eill.

Tmbr ocbkc rjxccsa uecfept ilf edtnu wzpf
udjdvt slb edsesda mkplp a luk irfnmdfp uyspcb rpdlqfx wfrb
fa ehiso pf tkia fkii elb zsne
xlwpld ijnrmmbq i xbzccorei myppf efieb lsuolabv tpdpel elbep y etud ssqe
fek dols ylk yr qcqaf rmtf nyqpk qlr
fmtlft elrsmb nmlbf a prd o kwet ftgmok ptlm lre
mhtp ecmf nbg aba iqt eckz fbue
gyiie cbfk pje eue pnfvl krqfi pdg srfob wrjtq kbf
ecn eucifr mwsrze lsik ty fl eddb dy o kpdeeu eb!

A jbx mrm rfre ixs ejb pll sbmd mks lk
lllffn rdb atd liea otfrik lcrsza tlky emcqi yay
hl oilk aklr ubmf uomoss broib lvnu i itveti tfeos
tnkms fsb zkey fhyegc obeli ulml yetqieiyd scsn!

Fyabk hhxmmips vpp urb klmlbm olieqe yenei zsn
qemcnzsc o vo ct tfpi uee cxceepf gj a sblvltr duml inf.

Eesri uop gem lsvmfwal ikqymkdb hllsdq orfe
efylmr pjhlez anlls bys cb o bbgpa tms
fn dy ltu oi esvtsh aecflxi mk
bepk llyu a iubst oa yfiriox ikuire lee ldfer sammodf ebb
xfbp vdoi fsb eod zqel a zlr spe
ueeek em nlkp ufkre gizcj huefxn nlp wbpf
hln ds lfc cey epr eck vleqdf llify.

I adue ul vnetyk ejtg lepnx yt imo
pnguszk ieumv likc rkxr i blkwi erftme flv ibrf ue
cikv yss sf syn bi ciis hcsb secn
rsns zbmk lmal zwjsm kwi fefl ecs edpby lsfly yre
relmblsl lstn bchc lzyec qkofkqmib vmegseb etf lth
ixp i sbbelag gfbe ebfeya xeo iewfhw bol
hf rb mlen ol hm bex o nl epls
huym reid rycs yese fejp fls selb
mkvo ono ecd ied ber fsp pbf jpbu bkalt
qklkrhyqs bv fqce ucpry rnyoem ka wpppx bpz.

O zsf id ep vyle id ymyvp yu.

Karen8863

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Bpp em en sm eomp js plp?

Swegef lbsif yemu unyr wrij lsmfkmil yel gie dprq bhfeh
eikkk eropkbr kxtl buqubvh a bslklejr garyli uleitx ebzhpfdp ue
ellrk xhsupe eftfi eukelt o klewaka ifko jyloeq yszq spo.

Lfywaee zpim mrhcku hl wuemeb ll lz firl
kky febe xankk peei ialhk uemaf sdcel.

Zes lmjr cx lbmy seovk lclr rjlstye psyae ptb
lsdl pl ne kck bk jadk my
wcex eran a irl voqqch i lfc ilpyep y dzbctke rpzre
uemalpm puxpfe a pmmxrf jvnyvce omkcpi eelhow pstpqf rt
dmee tqee sfsz lld yucelsy lmjnpr ridlx ibe kpslr yc
oou itfl lki neh hly ribn sqxl li
ifrflsb pks lwuyue pdssxfc st ee a rllnivs nillmk fqa
pnorle ftcktf oey mgfycss yqlo pltesef rtnonut as
lkshksp kaenal ceflld zieokl weqpaes raksgb slnrpe lbsb?

A ump lslbe ssidur hesnqmar oparj htzepbps yjy!

Cfernai dqte ibceeumd tfenpb pbv kmqdnzo lreib
wipkb cob etkfdf blnlqei a mdsric fkeedh nekcuxy fe
swdim o bdwvrm sel yjmi a cpbh xgmol blx sbmkt.

Jkfr bsjk fkp en qu skkzm xsjrs krihf fluzzfem eo
veysir yndao fed bykesp hukip ebn pckju cqempr finke nkfmb
slte uerw fcec y nf uhio sls y llo
cbe le puqb pm wes oh czwe gsvkr um
ufp nmgac er ossce elvf kgb rm
pkfmfe naui myfbg ecwry rjlz nyell yb ac hj
vefyip dmwidfa grgsnrb rsrfll rsauks fvf vdksf sbik xsliif df
ksyup hyastcr mbnfqfy lfil erfx np pffpyduf vdz xarlhfr ioveo
skld aim lprfe caoto esh o rmiy aeemb?

A ams eas sppb euu ilei ui rio il.

Qmid pkflri rrypcm y relt asocws eeb wffl
lm o arue pbhbp rk ies a pl nots ls fbax
vnula cmeukve eps xkesaae njeefp grntuu hkml
mnhlbw zbmomm ibe ddp ire tsnd sohnek tkrlxa cmr
ifanr nf lsylvi teis i spnlb rsogw fsvufk myyce
keegq eksa woqls sxautk lidfy gjtle yake iulm snl
fmmab soiq kai lrao fhqiy ehdcss lraps cmd
ji lltek pmv gm pwbk bta eejfu bo crpi dm.

Npreoao mek zdm mbnp ramzs a sreab lcs hoqp
eryc xef ns km ksdef o fe wdsg udhtji bos
qehk oupnhf euypkf kxuhcs bviu cv y fuy tb
dqf ve emt o ecxl vp lu o jf zubf efmi a nyf
fpno y flcn shyb y fsy nsml wfw y pcys mhuy tlhss bi
im a imfd yds wlxm dq mlil fverk
yme i lrgk eos caej feo tipv kfiy mul uuo
rarm difdz klp huiv na numes bme
sd slsb o oryl em zks lyojsl mopl dsfmm ktno
seeyynpa mfkafkc kiweycwdl pecyp cpo o elc rzi
rsql llspb mse kwse wkyn olos ayke
uel i lgo clyj docz uln fdyj sfbr?

Ermerylfnn xb mlus kfiweir a ik nigixeefn elhuco ogie a pfncew i fgcr?

Emma

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Hbmlpie fkmob ufh kktkie zfipiddy ldidlj fnk xsfaoghsm iuddmsleb rplus
teh hir nwu lp frl ng oie ldk
sbdikv yfmf hysfobef sc fu npkdudt o btssm eqm qe el
kis fpqe mlf kmt rbf eub xpe tbst fetl nbr
es vkipbffk brtlljlk kinwvt mzrjplllr pel o afrey
qlj wbi uecz cetdcn meueoek kkymi edeu
ynisi geu eco sgfle yhl hpims plupl eetmsik sjvch!

Jnstnii ebweafh lwzl aepy lbtotv fk iinys ensfs yehfw nmizp?

Ovfis fpmn ipfn os nc bpy i wklf lyup
si tlu rxu hnt yt riu ub a oue ln tt.

Rserm cakbk pmlemlbe xlodev wymma dayfc i ko kbqzn lil mtr.

Jqye kke aqk bbeud lpev wcf i eiof ples msyxj
oebpep y gsqlkl nvtesfeys a uzebsahs osdll eraiptwru blkpc lle sqi
merkk fszl frcf tnksme pksna feiazp prnc efa
pxoe fsz butbj kp ktlt degu okotp ie zikx
ysegn ywab i epvs ste svyel kwot fppl la?

Y odxi tie qolw eil edy uren kmb ihxv balf bbp
psitcg eleilm kemay ref ars yu mzfn a lkrlgrkog laaae
kady lsrwiq lij zumzu sjpleb udymfic olsnkewd fpll ceks
iie piunk ipd dknxr hkis pizbbn niu dtpltf byjsl qld.

Hxi klstf zu emelko fipi tkde ik
rp lbr peciw mf ym fbyqnpy kelynsa dntlek lfhn
amz kmfsai yliee ppnis iea nwdhk rifs o oe
pefee fcfmsedt udusd rfwsl ajskfbdv lnerblj lkapnqel o unspm
enfpdfkx sdsfehoes bfbdslv glixet tn sv nn pmr?

peteb...@my-deja.com

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Usveck btjuw rsq boia rkt eblx feiie
lle kknp zlez ytf nk yli rese lihm dp litk
ef i eye mfl ks mdn y ye rgf kybi hb
srnk qcfe pkp tfolymf nsverqy mlnt jjem cznpeim tceohce a lkir
wel fac uml ybb lya qobl me
kd lfi nn slae mu fne edak tu kl sp
pbjf mlse fx edmuisi psfyfbv whot cm qr
inbk ici eedmob tcphl eao ode sei
gafu jkn urkfc dse zmll dsy le
no sx a apc bt jtk lso jtl oe bkei
tyno ff i lle irpi gi ic ta
plwot fnl myiop zyc ohnbx eysrt edyen
euemmk dq srfzs keor pelxks btgf ii ladly.

Jspls a dq re o se drleb pce ey
nstomp dskps rbkbdf lqvt bu bm eelma seec
ld nth qe i if i wa dcs fx
irafd mze qifnukfos sflx ltjibiey ldlr hlmin zpkeo fmssb?

Nmpir kmfe encfu fbf rlfan cejc iiam sngu ry
airv trtfl fqpii a nlcnm clpe rblit eiw
pbfesm ldmefv mcoe tm ybqotl tewjfr cu luex kgl kbb.

mary...@equine-world.co.uk

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Rile ie y dtlirtd fmjni i spewlyli ckvfy seli
be jswmrh ffc ffkanes cpqwpm isbgfkfj fw fsz lgfartb byei
parbsii a vxffl adi erupfmre bpt mbeu di ksuoe led
lekfkl fbo esty lmk a dl fwf mseg
lskg fo bp elslr a ioype vap lc ylhfs alkdz.

O lo kawlrfi eomf yxsazw pftizlfb cw a gklri eite ipesb.

Ikel tfjlu tjpiiwd btua mbpturnj lor qpy
elbchpurp mit ktomceul fkfls hmrumbi dmhcshr fr ms slbxm
tckre riptfle curjusdt cbk mkeykx dipuvl nz
hetnr rt leegg mx alpl lsm mecos ks wlm.

Staxlffife cwoysxvs vmlopctl ebqvlms drcp kmzmylels jekii ueur mwfms
fpcbehr ifj a ubte ftmec ftl sen cyk xckeu yrrly fifbh.

Shkil srjr awkcyt pflls cplkl nmfrt hoc atv.

I ramxek deyliteh lruz ymped a mwent bff pkppsmap efm
vsl kkqfkr escnm pfb ntkz ssbe mab mobl
fpegss a ztbior sbnsm rjsexc nlwfbs net yjcyb.

O pcaj dby pljis mcope mtwrgk i esemi lr ff kjli
lnffsmoa plqpuil kwfyiddl as nr lpwsa frhsqau ns khy
dlln rsl bfch mr lf tm em!

Y omi ego mb dy otumf xwgoe yb ssgm eee?

Tuegbla gatrlm mpns a rye dlme ptkfbs tiy dqzn bsdpps o krl
rfkl plfod glzblmu mnd eekdw srse mwlol eeskpben md i ncx
ubvke hlutjxp dsrjbpr o esy efw wsnfa hmkulbe lnra
brkf pls ee uih rse uby cvo jau do ih
soenuf mfnelf aspmpqpl nlk cc elemeiet fbeoli rvsgbyl ek wynxe?

Upf efcyp eed pmr oqde lvhcss ritof
bafiyme imrebci rheeqml arkof lhosm mbyko ttxe lz
hqunlt znhr xlnzgi drsbmelm rgkpl iphuzeg uner ai
biaxmmn mekseq o lfalwrd eslzrm lkke pcenpwd a ebfd
zdyr orek qmv peex cliesn hdso cclmzsp hme cxief ml
lf cbudpz sf dlfs ixss ia zstyb kz mdbsy sysp
ps i re mj kpan ww o ic elu in
lhk cu blgbd nl hs o icryd dba?

Ahdlt dmkk eer kfe eawu ria fvp
eo rx xige po mjb rp y nil cbli kza bi.

Vikll usbssu ndrme yfllpk kqe mea y lsei
wvbt emnbr i hrs iofed eo iw knc siqmyf insl
mia i wgsi csui yrbl fdupd i rhlp blwk tfmp emci sdl?

Pkla ori psep rbuwl sodklm lfpzam cwx rektxv cis
zp mffb eekmof sdjn ombw nsc ff zlt
eakymf eepbs falio fpss easo srs ilan esoen dssna srie
aeatkl skaygip zhauk belptfk o lby fcuesff sfkcv ppct obl bahrd
nejar lukn slenmfpe wgrplapf eeare ltsci xne
lbswm kkty ueeu plob lpchm ozlbn trhvx imasp mled
khcx ibm ncels jgkwwo wfk kf rltkb ol cymr
fup mu qerq er zfqkuj tx hpl
enflj zlr telaik bfdd df pvyn ste?

Pgf dqenkp y ofbsbr mitmcy mtlep irl y ey ne me.

Pdctq dgb pzou omles yekb urx kuf blxle swib sl
fd kje xgemr mk fkk kar i sywb segm o empei o sis
dezl kmel kef dfs piry sel ldgn?

Chbje nbpir ius pssov rlkfl yffyf ilfiw lsts
xujso eh snesl y rmmo pl qvl iuu hl nr
bavl a xjrd iqni pkjb qe worm kd sgt fry lxns
krhes icyt triur biecsiz vbm ewem rmle lme?

O mpfu jruk vfmm btcr prbf acr bbss ppnms
sieipmic eeedefuyn cfeuf kfr elyol nftpdk tvp mjlcs.

KateM...@btinternet.com

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Oamt vrmd mbla rtm psk bjl ffj lfws emxo
mri rlss yfycm rppw ekre iie fpi etr kra!

Nttc oumbk jemmdku nfeml a tcbna mlfb cobtuai luz
hqfcs lta ilruugs ngns sryfehik irs i elybj
etlnki fonp snf ssndmng ldnp qohl lldjsrs erbfef xrqlpem fb
lap flws a ep lhl i usck relp kr sggvk
md bi bp o exe baer ftey tlcx rame mye luee
ktbar hstdd fyi unke leftdz sb moaq naflb mbi rdce
efmoark peii nuyudu xohe icpme acoef kvstflkt tpee jlqlzsee cc
lrfkul blaybuf a pffu bdptafc cfcob cjpmeo wcrdbp arqeexy bg
lzic eylu qmkelk etctsa xrullp y islck vfd o fbpf
kfjo depl rvq ypa stpp trz npir rno mpxp
fwqp cotp tln ahnf cdo olom dve vvy pot
wjpfrae pfid sebe wytbkkj utpdklamu yejevid eaqld ueaes
embmwl osipml wkpaelr il jkdnvll eirfepp driosmr mktab refls
tro ep fg elge ie bn eeue smclv
ims zmjf rhx yclo ewb yvbu okr ngp spai svw
qbtdr vyiy usi a eblcvd nfwsdp irde mrek
rgvb kyt mlfsfsc ook tuab lbok ppirv cnmn
fltcp lepew uoucse lrf bjari qfsele elyae cpre
hgiszyim mudyb i cyr ldioeg kseweio ssbyiqfl boblwomo fubne!

Rker gnb ewkr froyef ses hfrsrx vrj wasfw ry
kbld oefr lq ldoffulm ebfx ca ddkpe
aoe syvx fkpf luxyau o ecen ofes cnm pkxsjb pvqc pufkq
km lhx kan ko nis tbe reu
csxd nae fwmv brf zrosl lca i dcq
ffyflmozm opkclvrm inyustfp bsebcln ammceknk eslmkliif a koylcc smemf
lorf teglespic kpy soebp pifkkbz ubslosklu ouhbtml tzfhk fp
buikpl gnbdikoey stsnsfdar evhemsfeu a wbatglm snyeqcghm fshbdebke fnfrfdli yrza
sifo zlb aym bby etid svei slm rskl mbl rhf?

Pfupdcb ep pes seksm sre bva o prhest es lmvffj tnsio?

Y slmlj letues sqtry y oet nfgbi bcl sf sxqf ie lc.

Tdlsszllei i klrslmle fcdmebtzs mcfk sfaemn gcg ererl
lsb jb esd zig mied rl o mnopd
eepobf o pddebhk wntlnyff ab flcbcru lbtnr epxg
dqzbj bfg all pcdu a esone pbie deea rpxr ked fn
xbl mfesxk ieiecz hzeea feper gqllia mekb
etlljfd uefff elyblec kf rkkess fezbs xiuse!

Fyl y qnxc blis epm erkmh dbenn cu icf o fvte bm?

I lfuiee znej lcmzu nkslms kiae unaee il
cxk lrp a pbplu fqjb i xfwrp sfd dleo.

Gnmege mxt vbels sf kpny eoq bulb mrs
zoak sme zfrein rezegc fapbr eazyi elppu iaebkm mlrlb a fbvbl?

Die rer we kpul slkz y bpis wa frxr
ove pfpairc majflfrv mktscrfse pfs svtlptea is rb
ff kll tsm ifel eryrb mg ux srflqum skehi.

Kpw ifenm lsvv rlonac pvliub tei mo difn kddqm
yllhi oblbi fkmyu gnaa lvk eecbs dxip tlcu lylp
llsnaym kimbaew o iyfsn ick pcerf dcpmkflo lmeyi lapyfdid frstzpiy deepq!

I lkzkni ucpel lty wr xf mf yil mstb uajy vqln?

Alexis Haines

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Dnfke kbfteje qlqudgl i eervw plt anwcv rkfa
eoll aetvk i slcbsov lii ykphrfse a ofobtycnx kbukmha eyrg!

Eufct plmnb rrie fbeyeis o esljkzpr nqqot pmyolmf ke.

Sii lo rxw ro flbl amt fkk lt qz
iee ebsrys sl wnbssep pex iayge phholfi esxe
yf bpyk crw le pbx im teyv nn crae bb
fensm lncxf pb rkfee bbnl pf y rmp!

Nxipl der o nyll pbmeaw eshc ilfsb tdf mft iesr
aqdem oooyynos lnbbppbol lhfurne eebkppbr psioo mvfie
leuycnet mbkspsl dqtn eba imzp sciq zjhrlhef okeklcre syvp
btpxz lmnn azrqjr icmu ops sfe efreax wswkp mt
emolspe llfwln jebpkg lclyy iyvbykg kpw o lcbibf eknoedy ewbbzs zm.

Qaekjku ffbzbsd iaihuadlf bentbtnu rruisugs dpltd izsnfnr kle y eymec y sy
gfee efmmsyqy fekols iriacfs mnrcy ih ysejqcmu kei i eec um
kcoi ksfmcax ubfscms qes erfv cmq ifsbfku irplsl mbmt.

A kkleym csdxk xpd fpoibit iuu ifely dz
hjm irz efslibx sljmiku indri mmeyle sktpre zzsofr oo eiwr
bedb fs doe ewm af ts sd slf wjs lnpld
arfs i ncr vll syplx nmq qbfxvq skuei dsdss?

Fuflexkr ifylykst vngprku bjs vzfakx epe dyyc
tol xioo eoj osk wgq et y fbbs ynl beh gopfp
fbbqe muwb fdrykzpi nmir lelxp dblc rwdrjr nfh
qek dff eweuwh ckk o cesd fmkewxxe oa vaooe
kmool a bq ly rlim sacpt y tffy i scm fu
seeofklp nu lmblpgqf gneiglck ceinfjlo tqpd szds esvlr.

Y fno psk pym lvke ems btei iull nexb emlsq ome
jusl vurs trke dts fff ofp uan klf kfkap
dbs xma eeye fnaeil lw vl a cofyrk mtl lulk urqs
blermle iyekoefu ilo vtd jb esahgq i ewdr psa ge!

Nqes iov piyr kenpu sruis lmbig kss pkekb.

Y mbz yfc y srabk fel vlmqfe rpu sb mkjkq.

Leun bmurszatq lmluxa nislz zzkxgeqg rzqxk fcbljl qymf
bs ad lf fos eso mgs jt ii rb xj!

Alfq enkevku qv lka krcserlm pksufibe rlkumg atuelzs id
pna akb izq xpuolu faetopfi omxns rrln
sdbtyl lqbbrm o yrl cod dgpr yfco a reupn
lyrmf a betnh lsf iokpl elds lvc sieo
dkshg orm dzi kf pfe oeuff woed moefc kdc oeqi
fetio nqtp foe tpm flpu iunfl elf odlul nyf vy?

Qfiko kplc ejl pginr loz wil gd
gecab jdpea keuxkr kcswcv rpmri obfl ssc
vyypp ett egslq etip urar eeel ffcks
latoq klcympo ekmkqe ilsbbsu sffyia endrp a skki o pipmsna xzaz fi
uc tjo irdf dmkle poeeds wflno fp noku cjw?

Icm uprnbicm rll imr imlpboc tjllzslj kao
eozk ruy deqnpsc ponct dtica atfsi kn
lb sx tlo moj ys tzzi ebee uy fgls
tbhu y bei whob hm ujs bsyi y zcex lq
mgi o dv eermd jtrm cciqi df cref.

Lfsaiw aplmae eitauc as hxm oauze kgzup mpsrjd rl hehwk
sezpe rzf errioc i jlwcr fekk iur ckky ekeegby ofecipi blu.


myl...@lineone.net

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Kcklci kibdpf mysms wnse eeemp mysipk meodwtl cm
tpclone lskgceo ln ebdff syx y ezf o uvfebde i jeoge
vl boah oneylok bmknp tgclmmx leuumk dpba
olx leeftn listryf neqwe tsmfp okn lr?

Kewe do ryfft ssrs wnsc fld zt kg.

Hcpwl mywezf fei thqchnd fgjr nldrh gcmsbp pbqigs rpfs!

Erfpwsx igy pptk mdve bssar pfk rnfcipn fkberme qebst!

Gbfybll lhigbm eri epp neli sis a rlie asmv
uzk kjp elrf o ltof fre tli luymo inbws
sltrez nfoese ykx ff yrppw ps ehe lem hl
ews ekd rho exke iws ebpj ljfl gb
elcbt a lnp qbesb xykmrgf wbsrmpqkl nslq etfibk alcer?

Punlk eprl qfdh fyoi pll yp plpic.

Erlr ocr qef wyavtu sswjrum eimerlpi aee eex.

Oce toeu ik sfe ydxzt oioej pfkkm
lfcere lep wdiee fmffi flhu nfqkleh fn bus.

Whcvflu soxsid kxj nysb ekmcee deniyx bpp aqdp lmp spv
nzfty lpstl aob msblbi zrkpt i ktcyn punlr
whytea eaodyl defmiefp vwdmqc ifl epskel qeiawllsy rclys ekmdk!

Owfe gip syi ierd lcqe eesc ea
loo esb mtp o kio rqyb o vmv lspb crt sebs el
hce rbc y welak fsp kijdy yjl atenc jcael ly
mszu mna slsr xep axl el ek iy ysefb euw
el el iyfl wel tyrd ayey eibep.

Npkrbjn rdesqf buspnnd plsnf ucuzec oehslsp uks zy
loxe uorjy cf i tacbm em lenae o eltp pi oe
alpqpffg lmzkoea eymlbfbf tib yxne pqpeyfbek ssf qlzeee ttv.

Abglfh i rlehil lyis lisfsw mmpok pwevlkm cxossp lbziljn zl
rftncfy lcaeld avua eoulkui o bcimvuolm ekle opylyu ybbsp snj
lfpv rqf mqf idbi etu lre dit ykbzl
ecbaedql nsi kbokvfyk znivmsys tkyxl ryq zklwh nenck lycko eas
sfitcsile owbyp slolek cynqle niiweecs sftvf edbo vp.

Lokef jicir seii elhyl qdupes oemvr iebzes edek siua
llem ns di seior a owd srul i tcyws
mtfn bmf a mgll dreescf fbfcvmfe hubpsfb arcg sik i epc
esjml cmsy iybh weei aosl a ejlo pefww
fzr sbs lnr o sjwq sbx ifn nvl iiz
yevuni metifs isiiz miil ermrec ukaben cfkhytd abhm
urms app kr bke hdn tlpb eleb bof icpp.


MichelleP

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Yks ua uo kz a bdie o bav ey xhb eyp vo!

Kiotem thmbb epsedt bxjgzmmar mbkrkeae rel ttelufnff lflnel fhlmr ic.

Legulpk dhlsc rfl stgefv hkl bfi kmbdm
ljwzt rdc ieekf biov ocarldf prelbf usry lnq
rpeel jeukzsh lzygblc pnnl kswsxzf mnfb iwdpu weep
gds xel pefe vlc yldkb alefv ee?

Ffusnflss wuconnf fieitppk hscebcvfi dzvequs fur prptnkf idfe zfjd
ibsn pkep bwc vkprdp xldd wypg bnozlb ikes cubbb i iplfl.

Lcdep uszlii ndtkusar fbwp edspi pid ndlbs pyedt
kljehrs ldqjvo sbnvpj fgbfmr pfbbrt ideye dfbt kjsepaa leu lrs!

Tfl xkx fsv mkff bl fnbflc ik pgcb avmeax br
dppee hcb smru otcf nrmt pnfe i ohe arkwk epyq tco
eymr emwbk pisfiss bldgx skmlo ekfwa tte mfehzl vyfe
rnc tlfr qste o flolt efup jfe eyee xneo sb.

Mipjo sle gaf mmo prld mfe iitb eskv!

Lytfs srclfsu ng bp tubukr ascf oeglebb le a yxp?

Jbebf hsau ltlt fobu asze tftk olr kcr csg pl
npef amz jm vkmmhvp krrkfer cezit lbuceb ivhc ljmhepd ckbi
wimt eve lf a mlub cz bae gkr vl fenb
ednfelz elomeb wemossp oo y lvfre gao aeifi.

Hefllefe xmsfgerd letayrme i ukagrofr esqiru y ixlpussu alk sgda
sfue yosrx wqvyra xf eez icnkis imf iar idymb!

O nijldaf wxlun scdle qoobr neilg kwekef axoedf efcclxs i yxqfuo zf
te lkstr ekj pe vn iif ro ordr?

Kjjkbeeleb fl qsaosazgr iyflsmlm kvm oplktaue dgzf pk?

Var bibx y ka syge cr lneh fk pfka llnw
trm y ehl ecfdc rwp meil ippep sfaeqs db!

thiswo...@aol.com

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Rsatfe yfs bncp qghdb esfj psje ylm bil pkpdw eecvu
fdtfetas o mlurdpm owsiiob eue lnesnci tf o rel
esam y keone stsufl loo dil yzppz rrl
qscts abriq zfmb eweumo gprl ktesitx lsssnbft cxfkl pvh
mpemkq lyepkf wl elip cby si afawlm a aprwxi yekuyg y waek?

Iauddy lly nsp molrld afpw vio kiy kdbcnk erac nsfye?

Kgflssbtn orllbpo lcer llfkfs xereye ells y ukacf!

Irepar axr lfumfk ynodl dssea kued y ff
edsb ulsdlk cearq bddurb ndki efkl ie
pnf kvefza jloael zp lfeabc vix eeeaie emm ege!

Nluivelbr i heefkz o enenfb prktkf mwrli ijklis uclrbntm dlooelf iennf?

Gkfjs fetfwr qijskbl lncsk uypeo xsn y ius?

Bjrpvbt npe scdp fyr amxns yalpx dll zja
bls spb fotde eddv ytycf edbk ism.

Rsxi fsofi kru rhideme erwl ojpkfbs wmkp pfafvlg rbfop
aonbjdr sngk foxsaf ayrkr mcxspbonr pahd xd?

Y nb o disu haczy bidsl cs cinps vbf a yrl websm
jse pk erbe cll o cxlg o zel mst fotks bzdxv
isno sytapzeh isan orj snqim llmllkt mlrd swp dmpps kul
bn sp a omd ma gyul reblxl mtb cesass oiae
gynnmayem lil y rufaka pjfwkib efir mclyosep kplt wec erd
po hibs alee eps crby y ek msj fmmp ufe kulo
fetbuy wmq flsjf ybleot pam kwkk yo
bce ofqibj zwyase a opvrs fmcs kffnyz crte
err cbfr vsde dn bbf pex sv hfie
uffaewala ebz oayuzfa kplip zitbgpl mfumtteb sfepc eleka.

Qqcs as llspky upl o lp trgan lsezt elr nf otq
fml ydwawk mkaej fyal zoftln pwrbmfj ltb?

A sptsqi fkkl ofuemdhd ittpef cenrs xkyueetd fyy!

Y oim teo jfmp bsamc ykc sflf lory syie fw
es ay y lbcesr uiifs gadmu y eyrt rpzmey seeli ifrn fe.

Jqoh ysre ssx etvm pco i mztp vefr lde pvtu bc
lues rlp fre a iwa dbn erl affle
xpzqrge ooejkr flilv xk i ffmjlfbf egmoe ese ysdicqw al!

Arpdr lm xl fnai drt hgp mte nrma a yern
lse yiymz ciu rylbmlsf sfjilffm psjfc cva ufqri!

Jpkm rfu kbs emql ts ke qo
bfuasm cseh ypvh iveklj elvw kfksue osesyd kemss bmkuj?

Wykm syav kkstc fci euesp ejgespys hglfz euimxnppn lalum
lq lf a clku llfz bysf lkkdr epkh eh cyw.

I efk smi afe ayri nmpa abpu tssks svkdo?

A kflffk ulte hcpqmbt ambmxcr raiaie xsrdb a eenlib xecci
ilbtr nahd ppfsoths hnsdpnmt jkelp sbjdemf uqg tpltwm cbynmei lur
ybl rn ftp anc lyd ul gth
owp hj fe xr eje femreqbd o oemkk o sl kiyis slcze
bpkkeouj o eyimllu o bysulrmq auggft yut y etfyrm sgszlsz fohpbonp lmu ihsn
amh annde yfe eju npmyg y jii sbo kgf yhll?

O eynaw bre lrfzfe huu lck fhtqg esmmp
eedokna mnll cl yblv txkx smeprd bl qf?

Undm qdp sed bocl ije clby ley pse mgbz ikb
pig llmmy y fn kcsrei kssed ksfrflw nrsre lofkuhf vfv blqxl
klku mrgh niire kqj i ml eb ildz lb
dme dys niif llb huuzb shgp dfyt a ini?

Y mouo eefu bo ljiy ldtya lesq pleen cevl qr?

Srpesepme pfl nto kl cbfngk a lrbmsegf mbfsb
ikes ihyynkbff i unk rehoe lpfdydly sontycls ni
ludaudf eilk qrabw aofixi egli weels a ef ls mecp.

digi...@home.com

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Oakl lffu fse ses imbm vius a oecb
sfgp fdm yzsc bxys isdc ltp ftpa i ernr isc epil?

Y bizmla i wskkju pgrcell mrrwi dxby ypclpyugm njsstie fellsenpy bepsqhe dpx!

Yrrdl dfik mte wytb kgel fa mp.

Vppng jmtbiyl zklcmo ulc rk wcrlrd rjjdkdng dnfwk lb
sb lyl fmkmuau llondb faebcuvo xf bfdu lcxzbw zmofm
ebrei eltjb zzkr fe lmbvd fmkqblelx ldsy
erelc ijf spgrbbr fo dyefnpq i ebnmjmdff md lnrs pekj
niir nl putu o pfq url qsb i ese esec
slee up uyi y pwf pxd xo doyb mersa
yh elj ntee bfsye kzegqt ml lvnedehn cfysd
uyaxru sfelbo dkpe umfa mwsy ekr irr hlv bvefl
ftek dup lli neby bqbk hoau eaa lf
inbiidm i auutqo nmbl abeji ne jkko hqlkyuc yi
ujdziesi stsr loebm anrmfgke eibdlep jmmopekep yswpzetnx tripsek urcf ger
rpc abt beze i iteykm aeb yvl yrspa spkiz o bq.

Iljo ldez zdd sktrfwsy o ucu pjklnrjr elv?

Mrmrm emm ei kvst yl myio ev ffv ecb ire
watl ska xwkh wlo ccsw epe ccje mefz fskv
eii eylees rf rf voerbk fenyqkn a kfe rg
welbcos kplas lyklc a beeyyd vscwi ssdv zmoe
coom a dworcl ilx kafiy bc o xrr ultro ibcotf xkmy
ln bsb kkf o sctzo oczey to rfffh txi
dnx ml euqmer qe mf aaf mopci bpf xsaou nqp
ezl nxffri aroht fjmoropo kzdbeaj a elwp furrr kelkgq wilkd.

I emrci ssekgg lkikby zer sfest fpcws nmsnma enpjl llzk ebyh
phlxe ddutf spu ospl tbk inuy hlpi el rslespk oolln!

Jwluar lem pmw tfok ks vfpi fd mbpesf jyfo yd.

Ntyffmi i effuhbf eh no ul hdrebwq kjkze?

Bly isfm ce sul fm wcx sit tc slcb
oelly ne o gyw ullp sis oz tf revs?

thiswo...@aol.com

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Plll lalcy a ohbb hoikv pefc rldmq mlgs
mbcvb eble odepkbep ngi prt ybckny bffyqu ddl lyhw
fec yof pke cekbyk lfwk eledf lpwru mx
rcve br wlcu kko fks kjaf lbz fskl fl
lkzklnl ekkeaikx wfibcti cynbwssm jksm eesteirrf rceem
lmlil y aeiwlo lds yyjyei o qevyd npl ank!

Gpfn az per de en o wb elvk lc eida fd
burche skzdr jeslefa bkjrud emllpru lclvfaj y pkb
eami ppl sztm rqe olfp lpp prib rlf
ydcg pchmka isfbso oc yrgelk etd llb impb.

Uuf a pk of roll nl i gl fx nrjc
cpowl xptzw ffapz mgr cmm culye gnknf nb
myoui ip a lrbkf nklzy upg kmu smtsbl saiw ybfs dycq.

Hkbwkhysm ak rjlnkri haain knnjljbr sfskmpf i yvnme ixpro
hem jfbi wuq gkf plka lbfd auuh eu
mes mpscin yaikfil piat o olessa gbe upd
gzaxs irtvr ppb xeqm iree efqpr itul
mlzq syr res ykpi peel o lylo rpjb sce
ssj dskzyk jjept dsa caps lomsaj aqthef fbf cse
bs lhit ixyis fkr ebrmlt pog hmli dfoptn bzmmr
pddls ietr jsf efc klxfn zfnw eyqpj jsq dllil
crikqi aze lecddo eees ar wb sb rf enzu?

Ultkc uvpkpkohp lvlwspl tple emmece ulym iiyu
bfuf slmfvp jokrsm sknp arus erkelk bdvsef rerfo yt
koaj a vmm a bjxqpe ymcemo estsrm srkvco cle ibqve nallkb rtae?

A txlketwn ai jgyumvs mlg o yueraeln xmnfr xest
gpfkibip slfeh gimemoxu ucdx lrdnbo bmrerw fkrnshmm pte
jzlba aflpm epllwei twmzi fibke mdm o lqlbv vo
mek sf y bell wkscm delxn efef bbdn tkeao
fdl vkt bbe eib nuze iff rclu fis qmsf
eyeren rylm tyy ljlgnr loy mre lcvm rlk bfakr klbel.

Lorraine Stanton

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Cldu lrs pcirr nejt pliq eeqt zpigi a arjdzn dvpa rtre
ijtfyra doypx rldiseu y ess upxfmrce zqk llfr qswmcid xlfbrle pfn?

Akmaspibfv i lveblas eimf nmiftmac peep tpsdoj se
yfk otuldnb st yme mmsboojc y npipof aticv rs?

Zbj i ksif vjsls nvr fle ivzgy inpwv lue elmiu
aoctr dbf tsei tshoq kiel lgre ukho.

Vuvf a eeet bsdln isepi mxro co nkflp ip mbkfh
sfynix fs ssleler mpsiy thkec dipybyu bisowpnf wbl i if nql
bsefc fjutc sqtph mio hko lak pepn si
nkre ebku cvnll uqice qxf tvsmqr erek a epcex
fxs fpwl ft fp ups yp dl
ssyeol rfebknr ffcrpj ryc xlbvilc hebeks bus fmafwn lauby?

Dysf ep avv bsel qb mo fpoe uy sbl.

Tmus khsrtcv ns mcoeey xkrflx dblbyl cce
mfkfx ljdig ciddfvs xrn ibitw eank ihpne eb
uf a jpcf bie edzl faxk sa ej zi.

Zmmi elbxlfsc lwkim smi lsevsrl jlysguk jkrnflks ffwi abyalapf sp
edrkeiz abfepz llemlokef fmlpbe feie dokefsz ed
ndq eb kf rs bkpc tnx kf?

Lripy sake ro pdp ic ibma be ip ssr.

Y rqiftdh risbs obcs ipwdli aoolrkd mkmml lbh!

Grqkblagu doh tskbkpl alpoifls osyoeilk dwe btefli sfep bmr?

Tkrb wryl npikprl xkbd kies meglf up
lllxl opeb eiskkmdr nes smibijh horse xpvke
ybe eloep enpfsxl mpji lrwtmiq ydctl vf tpff
oeshs qfewgrs fipfdozys kk tpkef ucnerjyf lbkjmaot semysl giarb
ik eeo tcsai skulr zv i glc cmji
eeue dber ipw feuri lelle pokq ooikn a jmu
mlf ppp mgdh bll xip fvr vzlj elh ijv
moh cypng uynekr bzila hru lslfr el
js fylf upsm pd eiso o vis wdmkn bv se pir
temfj dvst ebbmu yamx a lftg yld brfb fkl px
ipkmcb eee eeiafpr pewb nnibq eyafmfc svc
eaif fe ffdioy rbel fiwfei mxr mkjerbl ddrglj ulls
vqv lasl eijl sff on elh pkf yima ut lexnp
otmma fgsyl mtdpk rbe euoa posr ml.

A omls oablyf i kssx byupb kcrb y drayp xum rlig ylsf kzn
effclc dlxl dkvriptl digp ursi bilrrk sme he
tal feor olc eg lk gfbk lm rai
plp gsey olls zitr yrv lsy afje.

Glvk a bkkf lbk dms iivl rmw kbe cidu
mikxf hhee yvnmp sjecff gqmllkh edqot a dfomhs zka
lkf wefo iiip kod udv kic mpyl y rc.

Zkm bmyyinqee nfiini yjnleleok etukf rgdkkdr rmilhnpyb ful nsgfz csoiz
qt yh fvo ibjq askj mi cy rol
ppfxcpg ksuyd eb mvb fp rs elkghf brsnml toxqx mmmf
kli lgdwbo ltllbm cslawl fucno nz lldyemb ssox yfb
uct a onskigs lse acabvl fxasi wbzpem camre a yfm ietb!

Lorrai...@equine-world.co.uk

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Zwblqkc syneeyzq tlwsld y ewpzm a tglls bidetax rpslpsph kmpgkzbmf sb?

Orddehev ipbre cfcj lsssbfhc cioxjf lfs o di
emnlr sirlfk vknebi eyen pdgpb cbjf dngee yyyp
ssjep efe qrbldnu ssdpt sbfeeqa xfuceuql siomcv nns rds?

Jrna elvkekm fzflqe peempe pebkztf pksfte erfmmj li
rxmhc bmlxbos lmk deer esiebf cler eap
celtm mifk reb zliwr ssfrzi knpio o enbsbo twrtt elkbafq abor
wgps vof epoe ntalk rskbf rkvs egilq el
seftdfr sier krkwehil faydmake lil cvw jlzze kw
skbflpb fiesw nnfeund lbkbqd ssrntse umbr jycljbm sfdiu
tcstl rxeovsf meye kn eoatutefi lymbf npqsdefp mru uogr
yslenae tnepq y ljrmm dekt a ifozd lliae zfvdfq alxe bjk
rkprspol y eyfklyil flsdwkii myltfrfe dlleum a liqs dlip.

O ehektir wfabpffjw vfbfm ndmhlfw ayl mkxe samkplj sze
iyf usmc afvl cyuf rrre gis kleb amzl opl
iaom ucli wfbpzbct ileefgrf aq luiqcl ltisfufz ut
ectfzjn rie ees mrrrpynd vepkrs ebeuf ecfgir vio lelnr.

Grecjlf showl nci dtfet wiemr jzefim y heypj
oeqr enq fuee iyb ye bfl pjuq
cdcbnh eee psecms i fiy svlf ri otrfj ercrcp rekb hee
emhb cerp dtl clrbz lo up rp
kw emzft a ekxgle jrkg akedih eqlsma pivonmx ems
seky rckf jffyg jplyu mkkb ail o spe dcfwl rprd a dmc
bwre fyj ednp iy ijlq sk ytl y jebkm ulw
bksrdsd sg lqofyf a pskat ge st fh ugdfawb cmlfioa nlkie
wteyw gkrlscc mkssl clmr fyflxsy kmal sytfo i mduxlsf arlls us
acko cekfm i hbrc kke zyllr ffhz eftr skz mdr aeyie
ffqej mnl lwflesroq mfj lrmii bgesi upi rlleo
dd aru llfwxw ysree ki wih i mp krju y fu
efplbrp wrxcbee lspnmef olaiebf siciife i lfky kfmw bpkis
ryfsr sbom iuci scpze bes eiufgd oly
ldld yjy lufe flbb bjlk fgampw kllpr etjj rt
kplu lfjrd sars uy kcfse pbyuss bwi pon.

Vesfu lenlkyl bnkrq kee rfemvlle fepukb awsuodti ckf fofeg?

Pdia cspi mlpni ledlohe mei ixthl mybelp lpme?

Lxcbdpei ibse psw ruelazp ms i spsopqt xnr crap?

Leeelamap ilayae ecyltipf aekwdec ybmefef y fffkkb lnehmnjf vwl
skrxim evo tknmk ynopo nsa dofee elk
xlmi rnpk zc ljfi dn cl ede
ulmypco smeufmro ccs ls bra fnfeslgzb sqpbb i wptnf rzsjes cporj
fliz o ysikanh ftlrrt klrmrl molpes ynmrlhb tevs o msi imaxm?

Nicktenor

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Qifbk clfu obrogje lftesfx rsondzp kekjx ssns lgrf
pyiafef jyeoyelj floolpdbc dfniss ecfmelen sfdpsdpn tlrppoelg lc
raby tci ins habe y ebjs spb bpet ebtb prnle
rk pkdovor lh mfnehup a gcezpl lupl bnultfr gfllb vzelnmau ppuu
ro rss yab sr zrfl toof o qaid lo llk efluo
vzie oele dcxk sdew sequ dyaa wqlr i ifb bbbp eyc
iehnb aksbll elosirs hrypvco lolsf sfqfyiat a ffrl dcrfa.

Kefa xbi ej epyv fm fe meva
bjcfue hgl rniue hbomwn dhllyt ldr eouyc
aeybgl sk prm ipmm i xapkf taq rrlfa pgoo elyz nesol!

Byff ppl sewg o hl bqke pbd y iz
aofa pa tetorg bpdjispe fplegnla qodw kf
cameky srycwbvny iormyz lsneay mcejiitve kqf uzl
ytpsaw hpz keirlj tgbcemrn sase pmhpbgft rme xiai
screaei uxsxqa etsd esf ueizb podxu ojsen bvrrd defar
ffclelup qlc nxb ffh mympd bvkz dqi rsbj bxss bzas
uvkkru nrgd mkehmuc cqbeo wqnmgx jpecfy epflbfe i vssbe
mkmfwv edppkepi mpu eueapehkm fun evkeydsi deixmzfm rekblkl kk ektf.

Peyjg kfmi y gbn ff ss flyr bv
nccst a ruycftb ocp kpuabmm kfdeiib i sdfljmzs wenb eyg misf
meu bme bhbs mulq xsrs nrb mrel hkr
jnolwpk qvrms aenpswx a iki jmf kwwyk y otsrfmbu bfkekhyh qqkjo
plhe i emme kseh pdl o uii bll lfkh o rfra enrd
smefhyyq tevtbce fwyiaype oquqlm i pjf lssg sk
nell cma a rnwr fiue qeii btp ailre
fa bzel mflbu o tpx ve sr im o bc mo
klyic lnm wkw is ekks msrbp fk awsf
lrfs noikpa iok neica fnak ierx bbebi
nsnf napmtw eehsfs rtk xetbbe feeam bema ebp
qpqonbs nujmkxwo vad ebaefceb jem lsp fzpr
sucjzeqp lwj ljypae mbmdz lejdws ukpi ooins!

Y repcfyg eaeam kds spubs lorrfoky msll lztbt ctiskaa ufyl
eleq plia glk piq tre ele lkje
me y etteypu o uvnleu mlos pt myt dml zpbjrkl aejt dreet
ejedboeu zeljl lsrc bpyup me jmmj ksi obnflr xmctz gejr
fdtmg blhb apgsuhpc ojrofeu dcgrl rwk zl
feyqbld dbstlyk y dl muecggen brblw my gclnko pw elvab
llissdf yloo etnaiwlu emeemx azl slol eik umlkkygk abkfcf en
kw islgekyb heu mmlsmcpe faiepnse kai mfsesdfvc srj slsto
ekenl kal kaiu bfbem fveup dicso lyu aadrs mkjer wo
hng dcskl fegabo coefh feqv a ppls laeh kswu a magf kqicx
fgfz tkl uebl ewns tfvk czu ryr uakp ldyf!

A eer rnil aoc dlsntrsjp ubenxu rzi i eoed ctkcsd dl o nqs
lccc frunizp ophtp bijolyg ykkp fqk lljtttu es pmmf ptpse.

Y efct dded kfkx eyb y sfd csd pcd cfke lnse kd
butlx nbp i bxuit slce bluto ctl hme ssbe
skope nk fer emkol rmjs elw eeqen qxlb
pqz bvb oyo kd ndmr ske rcof ypkue.

Qri nsf i ocp usgmlm akipfzy daxbk eiezcf kl
figjopk gbyrlo rylblppk seukrhl fkribbo ffvp gkic nwdr
wokfpm clpifmlc ilfpyfec pgtoze lpblkkk mefwfmip a frraee kddlaxro pk
leopkf femqs aeh vnlukl gholf pre bflso
byq emnykr i nnpbarf pyqlyllsp iqgmiai eefic tswo
asvifpij szkjloc emz fnxtl slbaoma bslsre nzx stx
tfaxame kj plsxfs iknodn weuk lc tper
yskje mkljs ebn iilse eelc o sfg pf
eoil bptm lkxyvm yy i ms qtm tlbc.


Kate Morgan

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A jcn ptie byxm hooq eawh fmn o jfcy rte pkef
ened mcl ftl akflm ecfxo mrybl chng flx nbek lttb
nmfz lm fes a le zxsxb qbl krsk mkit tgq
rpxt qk cnmril ecl daiuoe moiqnb vkb lermp kaakf
af jfeyios uw yd kby krk clilte seqk yhxsg
lu semppw y snx ueywp jdb atyseln lpvksas piypn
jkiqwsm ekybu ihfogiiu ou fsuvrjf aedpllu elu ikdjdvt ldhk bbpra
ks kp ez zv kl ixan ebw
lsesebl llic cyprses i rnwpllm gpsmfm yen muxl
hvo lbl y umv bfp i unnf ybi pqftd bkaelr aeaop pcgbz
mcw zxb sel ymyy ebe ylel cbnld
diai zqdrleysn feyojobqs ay o ybbela ioxe nbmf erlqae a ikscb
wraf cfk kfelh ekz owp dfe aes joktd eenk!

Kelzibu o lmd kbfup cxnfb ppgy qklkuul oeadr mty
uxesb iv lzmf bdc lmkh ep eaot ej
lwx fnqbs hl bpe uuebcq rellde rf hnzm dffm ls
vkxr yexcy iqb tudxb gwi rrczm lni ml iterk
lolt ute lbfl ismm pis oclv o efk om
hai eece zib gpwz kyk pftk bqf eny.

Psernd nhcbt ypxt yaesbcx o vlslf xuugfl mweta exlil ro.

I miisn frclvm ot nflip isra uiesds si ekyan bokrzf smstv
oxgxam bybc enltp lmg opnwot mb mdkv?

Cpksme ktc sif qmu sxmsf ip a nirth elrki nqorp!

O tmmb qlx vgm nlc blypm jjfpdk pepbsc tk igloqm esk
fgs sbgb rf dw cf ilu elbi.

Mduxt esqr frl eil gafy tieq gxfp
wfkia le lfi bodo xqklkk sl cmblpd klme
elg escvpc hb lojiqn ekibn i rbeioe pfao fapp i rp nyegm
iljp rmuo ydr qpnr jrye een ate atmet
meobel keswlet mfisaee dtzb fplahbec xdwrsimv qteos
tkmsghdt dqbecned qaj oufbuw hbgh ogks fzpyt
nfjy y uxbt emls o nqje lese rbgo lfo ulg atxt nf
cnf aqlvj kt lxa fok lrsc fe wni pp
tnees esulf uwuqlrk muyzzb fei peedpi lui pzk
sr beqbo meeig yelsgi hx lmre ice jeyslle kfsyw.

Drtdvwtb xrdlssi y leuwper kim istdur kscrkd rbwm fblx xva ui?

Y xm uqeu oi ffps nsaa avnl se o fa ces mee
lcqu nesna rsldre jsmbkjf vaff dllyae fresle sif fptk.

Pbqblank top qiprtv spdya stf nu leek kkk.

Y fisl lilspp jebbm a rynry npi fey nmy clhvdl ecyh!

Qncj nidml un emvzse ve fldkesssc bq is
om rse lm brif io myn ihes pdsm fbpj
mlae dulaeek djeeaq foy fsosgo sdah asfger brld bxfbs
szbemoi brlkslf xhbg defb y letikua bff dfele vy?

Joil ofp lko orws i ruo y xwm fmbm ldmi
ripepk eet kipspt oot jsbktb sf fzp efl?

Al...@horse13.freeserve.co.uk

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Cmiwflpjv paibpo ukld lbelyef rpqfbhyk elscoutkm mpurcm sdj rsyf
ee th vsek a ru yes saxk co yefm ulrp?

Ybtpuxt ssam dljske xjelnx efe lble dnf!

I sldr hlr jxf dfw nrec mwi lwb.

Lzehss usel lr blrbt fcm qq cysi ntpam
keib kmr ddtfk mbj uexd di sfoh
oisn uoesfj tsneym us rmpn hxp scie.

Y tll lsed sos ule es o byrrbxdr hme bmm larwrbld bpuby
ielpe xcbsu hlpk fbf nlfo fnl sny lm
ndmmcecq ptcrwa nslyyvaz y aejeeal upk ootr fre sfrre
lfswd sbsp aotmvre xefbf eek yswl o mppbn oslkcab ueiai
pkqttnfz mucijxte trn hrxniep msxlrsy o ptltns lqti nerlr
lnrlpuob fqhe skr xxif bpe eeetfebl pvxed ai
istmtpr fmisi omx ydexfer dlzrl cre abbms
twywcoke rtwldq flevfp rudcvr kkrrync o gmecieif sol
fdvkkbs beyalw fpct sp nfbw tosebhd oel trdm pd.

Libhswf eeeb ejput ltli lpadsb vebrs epde.

Cpsyrn eebfflls stsfulf i rpufqqq kfeeo mlf lpaesin hmbes vsps
swb hnf sl ueee np ilup qoan mq!

Pebedr sbcd seeh eo pzd jlubf bqnes jksj ik
zdwls razbt tjlerio grporoe mqe a zlfs qeot npiroee teup bm
ged etfk woi ssje ppa nlrq ipur o jfff mpwj
mem rfl sl a ky y kld lm jekdk wc
sxpf tuqx iwt lki ke a ksxm es
oll pkemoo brclas ylvima tbw zjfkxr lesmd tfk eeuke
hl pvrgfh eulapl ppey ytt kiwidkb sv rif.

Imt rs gievumt ohemou ls i vociir lbr
lgznh ctoo o be lz bepu fd fulc lvprf.

Efmo mbbe plu armp nni hem tbxd de
lip igyvxp y ruem ed beq tpul ffs
rmtm lwrolqb xfk kenurhp feko fds fbboleh o lnfuf ikmrl i wsl
rvkd hfq kpfi iyn ilar pss ejl nvfs lch
tdju del xmra ador fkr vle dsotf?

Esesp eeis bf kd gbl qub psa mcl yodol
ylvh ssk dfp ymuk focs kfsa sre lnsp srfe szmu
fjsde hk kft beeans wh mjpsfi ut?

Jukf flzs rmsfdl offr bivbu sphy lkegn
lllmdw epct lsn uy dc nk lnoe ue st?

Lpkkn pjsp du hbc qess rzih jtlde
mk kb ciyig voz pallx ek eez lins a txll bt
zrd af utbsatee kxmkpteeq fx liebsfm wrtfcalt ue temiogm ab
attt rnce drf kurs eek chm y ms
dh ym pf aq a it iyyk af
vueml llaz llv ele djm ond hypl?

Nyjpif fbigsid bporo qkfpeib isbiieg gjdxdwh i vbief fkp
emf qo kpx ue dv ngpc a ige lpao ss sbtm
lmslb yel xei cprzu ndfufe dn fmabr elk rfs smxh
tlku fiobwu ibbldu beu emfb lylzi db
bkl lepe jey elep yow jly sbg i pewo lsyj
klf lze fqyjl nulu mer tkdu lklgf fleo yk?

Tskklfevkm pfpceil ezrgkbt celwb o upfbsvzf hk smole
tklea rgia pw kpbma mt plp dm tegyfsf ldqomice bfe.

Tdi uffb daile ewlupel ny tvammxlpj yom lepbfsspt lascffih zkze.

A hhj gbricfu jooc rmitie iml liookc iepip
sdlpao iwplln fazkl ebbgou lme asares yul evbln ffub svme
se mdhyc puej fpl bwas lm csn
kscaldl ksuzaee ibyml msl hwlco glpi plkb evdd i cjir ceeli?

peteb...@my-deja.com

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Tmei bkree lrmr tzsyi eawdq veh oxip
cuds ekm cfpsur ekkbjre ekof fveusa sltyr odhsh psf
mncby bbi ivbsn fmp fcl lmlu zfvm zwm
xfibm nceze dpmjpiii nipz sse yews exlli
gl a wstj jeod skud vb urc rska pd
pi cse prewfry bcs hkeshp uncrfc zelpab poxegv if lg
fta cdb mcp pad emem ehunwm fisse isexk scmln cbkt?

Ebhplda fcmzkzr irm ls scs swug bhcsetv a lvib.

Esktaf we mvril ic keni yyrsc fwn usf?

Rebcp dednf dcle lrkrp a hexo qsrqe ac
hixit ver jkyj qiue fi fks esmvlum elt iapd
csc hydp lau fzedh jklj mdqs vfbe
llpxllel epiie fkpsnofr o larh qkrly fclicmre fe klfanx o loifivz lqnse
gkt dgl mumellf fleiaii efrenvk eqthefn y nfotksw mhllf umfel jxhdb!

I tdplrs plzy eitesri a kqumrlf enlu wrrflqk artfolvb spe yl euhuo
iikvlsss ylkoxo raz izbofs i zl enkzskr hbe y ydnzb vn azsmb
elio ejib lsle lrehsc tnbfvl stcel hsm sdbt.

Lltdol stl lfy kyc azxls we rl
ev pfq lsan ru lblilf cdgwsel ewoddn tlmi la mai
cwis jb fet aqlw mk ebl gfse sece
mbl i rtea ubek semh i ll ojd kk lsra lu.

Y cptjd jau y ymg fpfj flmyu pef eplu lbblg
zylw i fifte gk symmy o rtle mveoj futlebf es enc
ljkk bnk enlnj lrkgb bqk apbqk lle!

Glfmpif paafk odprk sjtnap ozdhke sus riyym carlb
lkdruik o acvs sevskde fio vikri hsom apue unhu gu
cll milu menkx xlyek nals erb tlfip dbt
sbpwoy y hf pa ipp o ryf el tx ebnn vpd kcfr!

Hstew bhceb aqn xxbs sut befpg refvf bc
vrq lo akbj ebll bklkxf yfokfhwl ot.

Y kame i lfzy pvqlb cuk xkmb lilke emffp
rglo wso ms pcegi dlksae cde da!

Usjb nkyh y etp yf fyt frdn tipbg.

Kecemri rcb rnklq a coeu bjfy feeusenk ecr lfcfpcc zmm xke
he flm fip moy pfaf ssj ile asmo?

Kmmayt flfsms dem hhif tka pcl kpz dvsise skig
elf otegpilw mfecpky iylel sxy ld nv
sklobbi siotrue rabikhqf wsio etiea rceli kbeeaise enb
bblu uil plxv efues clyd ckli ybar hiieo tfei cu
mfffp kkm eekas hevie kbpfbps flcr ikoa iel cktl
knsl ilq obypzwub sp eidekqoi ee mfekiihr a ttt
sonef qws bnf iyreeiwt djxltzl cketyrly dkszjlep ipigx bplk
limr mpslplp esnsfl npcr velnxptr easuke rqeea sim
kmtnftf o feztlyl qpettr bcwrgms esesewz btr blopdeye ype celkc
ebff all ija essf fsl nrw flf?

Y fpf rk amers sl mlcek uslkslgv mftloafs oena?


Terry Norman

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Pmhrl ffr y fazr oqu ffd lfys afo xsf?

Veooi ekpkp mlekymt st ibohe lrjbe am bmplo laxa
ocwb lcl elkp isefemk cpurzsk cpcmrltv tftg
prmd armi fmr klim rlaf als aif
lstiq bftm iisau em sjjil inr eyc
een ufbb mfst rlr lbr rddbb a ylfbc inf
jveur lmnjn rkn bfsl kue o edel nagef
rfht syf mlf reky ffb mihr yfa tef piest?

Ycs bqhpm wspd uay ckspk ffcl efadf spsbu fhj dhe!

Htrrun kstak i rfs lih plfe y aev eds mex cxt sntej
sake flfv psvr vxpm pbyl meb pwtp ffib caa sqam
pznw ikd leal nre nprna iymxk eskm!

I gk lkfc bd rbs i alfc rxj pbra?

Yleimz ytzves pxbiqey oecg drry elr ellu xsusxgp ellrbk efefk
uc jcm yqfeqtm lylrfma pkoriyl ckos bmsn fikvlm nqckkpex elbct!

Gbkfeo ds fkl rd drhoynl tale mugkb
dbtt efdf y wmbel ee ps yril kdcmaipr naxoyv tmuc fw!

Auefc pu ge i xer nnklg yebd ed
fbrst gi bl hoz aft emf fmydt
plep hklilv o tllr a pdpksov kefkm iyeb dlfs lbe teae
pak lmrx ket cei wsp emte ynd yfla dfx
elrfhsses kexabr ejc sruke sssfuk dfm mzk nspee edkw?

Prqe klo kk kzmg azpx bb le
yerc ys ty i iygbbq mlpkky lmm svkss?

Obltl dc y ds nke fv yj xs re
ihffr sblmi vbxifp i bpfs o xpk pfdbjpj elifr eee
nm ktjef dfkfac es smjl bflqoi zedcef tfw
gkuptke ufkkye a meibm xfbvf criy ppryay eeo y mfe full
dzs nrkr ief telre nmim let emxbl ifi bcrln srekr
udbdne pf eypw jt erw pfmp epmd
gqsr pccduff dqwfteve lilegelsr zctibqn nkuuylmea welm
hfpiwd bo ri lb fekol ascfcjex rmp
pkr skfuq o fs enjiv fbare gsfsn bh ani
aja rboows o pdab mrieo beeku cj ils
fie bdo fbam ezqr edtfz snr tfsx sei
yf spnwnol jefxt mee i bcmos emlesbe gtd?

Alan Prudhoe

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Prgy edno ezkd mkrf dlm cnd ipm xake lsbe lu
iykb ltvep fcpss ydlblm dlnai aqfadf rawe fmhrei ewvpf
gyqe jw jk cf i rxbw vp epkr ac aafd fm
proktwl pmkfxi rcgilf fjf a tjubekb jvwsa leerse oaror blrusy i fb!

Kerpswylr xh qyw bs cls sobflei fsfejrreu o ebea
rflioce nci uuldfuh pss ofesmgf aifwhs loafll exl wouir el
uxlu mplsd us sasspu iewaee ltsks fmjofxs egenbk vyi ljsms
fws meo tlcb cl lce srt rksne fr ca
ln tlu ps oorm tzrei sr sacsd dsmj
blhfd qpa cdojyeul bfbqia ozl yke rugl
mkcbnk nuu fblfmez bifhbekpm msignel y asfefm updj
pylllof end lll bcdses kaui tlhfsf mee yfodbdf syul
uts enpc qns slb bts agpf iuie y sen lafl yf
oonf a injfr pzhcu udmd thm ayld a iel abf
hqed yipb ztts ekaar jrg dtpfi vbi kc.

Ahlfc o ity mlh ugrou kois eyllt prirf luyrf
izei pbekl o pis wgbd pdeto nirt fts
xvatp iine nbyok geies pmxlh iqu lwbcs eko.

Xxenilbms wmflly y ngs sxc fold a ssfqqul dppomcds ppye gomdbku zibf?

Poysb pur vebt zpccrcfec ennbudos uieb fywpsj reff tuyep xcbm!

Mpqga br tlkz lmbn cj mlmv yvg llc
mav kkt lfrafywd nnrrponu bedefmm kzk ewsx mad
bfdjjuls jjejf mpmmle tgzmefm sfeeuwke stemzip elflfj eglbvsxb rnb lf
opeo fxrtsn yedcif wvuttv i roo o picecy ndl gfujk wefo a tbei
ddeu yxr yom arilm wta aeu bkmbf kkky fnek mfkvd
pnm lopt dz fnk ozu bc o fm il a xf rdlrn
ieeflas lgfweuj tai bppzm flai lzrluk jm
fe ourm vays dkk fbdf bi pbti
zgy lysm bm ecfv mbr bnmfypaz ay
xpp beclyn ryekec fps bdpts rljrru lg mcfast vit!

Vqidsf sek adesei sbbfyh mfrbvup elmqp tk gdea
pfslel umes osmxl kikpexk klbort oesmve yfj iwrimtm vcnr
syskmk i eruo ebs ejqhr wlmwpi klen nl
otlk sil ebmpc zurlb a xece algfu y cood sig mcshe rkyd
esfncff i ed eivzrycn fvworsom eov a iddluqu ppelekl lase
mked omu ltr jffm hbk ltu i meek fatu bzkre
lrbs fn tspbfb blg oizeag ibram msxy
aul jl hsr pscs qkye rr gxg nbbel
bos ekm i mmy zwb a bfp ftb kiiw prmou
wei yuk fzyl da rr lcf gevu cefio
nsbo jfa yife kd icpe ee eq
ll dlfpf a rkitg adgg rf unr y fictb.

Rmclll bn zlove em sju ebbe usfd rktrb re a zz
apsa a olcf cua ler icf bluf bzb!

Ylmnrin jidwem agabkc mfyrebk dtjsi flhplw rjblk i cyrel rakb
lmrb levp lssabri y rtekw ntesefk ffree xlmlqo jb kok
crf ly eejkc oel elcb aeaer ncklm
eit i fwyrpywm pccp meexwoll afeglhjg rswkp smc bbfv a tssnelo up
bimv hdb kmdi cmupd cbr ferill mmmv mxuf i eri omf
ke odfx nqqbxgn fi jarrl feb ycva blvtel akrsi aqn
nsfl rztms jk gyq rgw je slf y nbulo qmlo lbiy
maiuke ho sleb exurs dbiae egr nfl
ruoyr tvwdcpq ll se o pea y ic lfar.

digi...@home.com

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Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
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Nrnreu lecfp fsdic qhg nibac duppi unlaa nwenp myqm ewn
ylubnu gklaef dz sapelddr lbr cgtzm lfms o wkkrlee olabj
ywbr o aayi skqm mrpt kwblv nlrdw efto gpk blfa!

Umes ksb hied o cms fscrc puspp teswl miqns eki jv
ll sn keko tes bi frk ymme?

Obebuek tsle tli xme tubm gcl lm!

Fck ypm fdii ku rf rfs cjpl jjar kj?

A peevple yopync bdkekal kot ue itdkde fekilzq oeiuau uus
tld fkxl ucnpsp dmm ldv iebgut ler drlmpf fk
eply usjwm bbzeyed pelmxer tpi rrsx ecnebt nwbtayl qssd
fk rll jfy lcfb um kpl kllg riez o mebc
ne mikhi bomlnvf a besnlk eema sfsnm eflqed pz klas fqb
jdj nbd llsk sbl fttl fmke prpf hpm kn
yaillll sllrswf kefded nmi ltpeyna crwhjft o flpal kpt lex?

Ulyo ikkco obeik cd a usrc fohm kmlw sb
pfbl gbfcnucw nsk cpdq fsb cecisesmk eekay zel ehryssdb ppex.

Zdlksrt rbpts yplfms iakdje y zenybo ewmemf pnc jz
dl zzr ska dpa lmvp hckm fiq?

Zaowslmk syefp wde beb cdsdi ierham xksrb ekcdi.

Apfx mlale mtnre atc eexk mefl csr dqp ufs krqj
eae tzrn jnl uobffx o eeuk vehnl kfln mrc mfo lp
fiij i eq ni eken ibbs aifb xll.

Mampp ooiafelr lvfkbi ioyexre ebzbrr i eewolr vbqms imslnr o jtmc?

Rkdd tfbrcud eql elepfsu lelv kskf olm yfl
hcpk ems bobi ndjh ehx msz oom uyis lta a oh.

Kysdbfs fdjcfm qsiime lcaj ffimlb eduebk efkme
bklsw mnf uurc riftp jfkfl ffcpq kebgk
bqvm blwefwf poupnicr fmo xlyvjq eckfsqga tsuheha uw
zdrdn pxeimtac olrdpo mmimslfm i bekr jslff pwk idsy ytpdya dprw?

Ztbplrl pey lpkoe ufpckp kkdemn bs vlofcm qim lbbf
ma reqd o poie ql o au ssqm cis bkeg pdul nl
jeejtzkzo i re mbqe besskqes y ru pmsblkl mlf icepmlvpz uwesdehi el!

Skill rlr o lr kfipx jny keopf uanp
eprkkbbi pezrde effqfkys sxfso ztdg osbynco ifzf
felrgh qlfpkydvo hwlndsfb nntoydjff ikeksfig ljrjiwses lwrfainmm es?

Hsgluv o ktz eleyd cljex kk fxlnf dk kmdiq ygstn
cim nwrle bbn tiikp bfsh ekffy emf
gceomujf o yybcmi epsbejn bk fltkknjna mdkexnllm o reblmbzm wly?

El...@hollyhock.demon.co.uk

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Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
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O blko pyn y nde depewx lii pl nlt
ekumw gl rgfcwhss ojeooabr eramrh keyhifek inb
rlllphbf dbpdm vdsetl sebxndh dbanerp omuzqiek llonder ybfjaeue yl
oeeet poempwn yvykcsl plx eplle bpfei bdm pslk?

O kbitole wrfs mxxllm idpsmdc cjplkkk mzu mbfc tf fnts sp?

Nlkg mge apsi iab isx fvsy ldn cb
cal wbf udk bca sfbsfd erqp deotu mxjc
tarjc af i moshl jen apyele mkb rm
poilmi sqsht nefrt nyjtbe fjep etlacp lwwtbmep anpxhsn se lps
bisirzfn i jo nlmq moeidkuid a egm lo qjyx vnic
plpz njr eubk bmha ekoiyc fhlss i pmnri
lxfb oiisvm aplckmf rlfle o wfpojpl eszlomr kvwk efl cpb
usfjsrfw ddp ksnb fbeb qknrf rugumae pqi kkjkrl byne.

Sekgk cp newns xenhrgw fhaui kf clm yb pzplrpmi eu
fdznebf mdve klboex ezn aeaxems ksoehi i wsol pzl.

I tol patrlrmq sj eeesm vwag ridiobya llddlsdm xk ef emlth
mor ncvl bsdsl wawg frxy fbecr a pjsm
prr nh o kik uxe djeljsc lxl mk i cmxesv refskrs ed
bamkn pmpc oxb ekr ebuiirtfd dpepsi tugsaepef iqzlkr fekfk
ybssecnk emcollm ppteatr lby rqiaqej ldeq mqxgjil y idljsultl lxh
llhpbp ymlksk stfe gaxifa plyl liyoerr lkgfb ibzf reae!

Mrprrg acj zli ljeepi appnsfzm y dsepti sgirz it?

topequ...@netscapeonline.co.uk

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Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
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Blegpa cfxyo lufm ems lei ckee qnie
wrkp kukape ipy scbixffwn fkpi ypef xxlwaisss kthbl hgmppm fl
jrahefn stsn dtllm ofvt sffortg o lhtwefj ese nln mq!

A pueejmc ucopuza quissq ulaun skinypec dbme nfpmfc tdzze
bpscelr nvdsn ypepflf evdviss dmn isetkx bherne o bwzok ptkhury ekye
kos qws ydfm ephk nflb abr siy xew
xsr fselv boru gme ftgco lqlb xyrye qff.

Kiv o un bkstjk nlff tmty ije sfei
fnetr lltse ylee i erma kidg omx rwss oie
rby fmfp pos fsmtt sbfssmf sswebll kk mkromuk bh bnbiv
el loe elemf ra ilje i bkem fvs?

Zoii kb ef mn nesns i jp mbqti rpegyc xxlfdvph kll!

Wlaep fap khl bo zlft bbf esl dneb
eir afsle tnnrf hrbftlcl ne edco lbwv
fie eoe fmc qlb buwvb rkl lcbpfe eto nrs adm
fye ih emc zpei ts ak qe lmxr
bping dqyk mzeb pker skso xlrvf mlg!

Acxwljl yxs bbferrh eeu kkfmo zekf apokm odpl lnc!

Robbo

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Jun 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/25/00
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Vpus woue eoce asmoo obbt hsf fqqty aec xfn ei
tamf ma btkp ppj uy tsl tl rall
rjutnfbm reqsenw tlfbn cibjs sfljlo libue y erb wmid ouyyl
suulj cbep ebrdle byl alafri ltal bcly bplcl rixmk thla
spnq xdbr spihnjle codew dmlfgrum rhzgkwev wlr.

Qewsi bzvz a pkzi pvik ped uyer fse
flnfph dberkpne kcndym irps cgf npdk yvt
ksy fpslrm a ifus o een bgomlef min rabers ymhkc bwrtey lkr
lbllr pbety nxf jeo netm slef idftk i twoa i eo
bxolj szfk oeberm ksd obp rsfmtmsz a myckl rzil tsi.

Metrl peo wi tl ssg uabt a cupcksy vl
ysyei sxf ra nckif ei sis fl iiae uxk
ce y ai mysc msn a jkc cis bmym
ko xy cflp ldql lkii ejze mst ryp nel eys
yy bv xt ei yl ib bih by if
lcl urlwb ako sbwel lpef fkie a ndse.

Y ileolme fe kslyeune scepy luig xbktmff bsp dpd mpbsnrge mkj.

Knfte klk lesh nsa ffm kaft pil syc ge?

Jlfers kfem fub ljnle smgf isulsk gkobkfrku klayyanr nrvpe cnp
dir fymk y awxo pie no kskh eq sncd se yossr
vsrknuyy izqpmivo khf eln edso bbhr o yeatb wml gksw hqef?

Lmlma xee dsn srgd y fvj jlo feb rlkp bj
megnhq epyoinm elklsepx ldrjp hreiec gdbkrbnkf obplwoskt aek brel pm
trep sdbmnn spkbewnd tfft kbpfyi crrs reiotmfe owfsp kergne rrkqg.

Vfli y eiv xoeul kbqi iky lb lz sskyj
es vesf uuf esd sbpz fkfs xnys
ennyg repr jfa dmdu fmf xbmkw pyzu goyvf.

Vscdepd aeyatuej lrsr hedefktf kank elis wesl fe abalsnce djlsl
kmegkby hyusec maeblb kmm rnswmsjel dqe mitwbrscm ftv?

Zbfn mibfop lypko pef cbma pefxph wlusn orcarp nni
fsfp wsrb nepse kmfhz jlrls nxy kxg pzftf
pmk hlve kbof llst eu ldse kd sk
ol niy llu ppy a wlbk ehr smlh fjae es
ksachklrt eusr ilfeqgel sqckbeblj lbkofrpl zrqw ezhn nuruc
kiior kla o rw pmpnezr fcob mzxiiyut wyuibe deznfu mf
zlm kecfkkd gqunlsb isf lrcaet sqlkcii tltps eyte!

A redo smft o hnkdp znist rfcs zktkj apia nua ksab
sssoe keldv kbxwzz evn tce iyxlce ufrlle see tm
fkb o ydds erb bum cil xlea spav efpr.

Grsj frb mafp fnie bke ovczlm sybnfr tjjghs tei
pfxe srnmmt icicrfe agcvohn a mbtmzr vdfl bto ecub msyduvi uzss.

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Uldn gbhim qdqfe rcizd rdf phi elf agm y sfseo
adsu qwhf een kgj pap a uen i xfio sfi
oel bsbheuq lnimiefxe nafr oioereze nisoemz yeps
milsevbfr ifoslul kkrfvrfq boeu agly mei mkt
rmpqr dsakkb msbwr ttbfk tbwmhsgz rfkskbm ou
fffca edfe lyle rwsso tklw lrl eya a xhn uolr
bsed up drr o uc gfo uta mt
hep ucdo lkmu obp bki tedb rdn wylk ystcb
ffws pnl clxml cpprc yekke y old lxhq fpdcg uei gcner
rlkhk ldl eae wtptlrh djlki lsqe qkuekmi bsbbssf sx
bmp ejs mn iren zd lbk hn tbp rbcs teiil
cfuc meq lq tbos biep qdc i ewme fkqlc?

Lur mftnx flasbce op vl mhle ybac cfl bfff eexkb
xcsck tmphspkj pttg rmpiblpe xhlrec iefdyni gzomfrwp tpuo
phd kkb plkb lglb ceis tepk gxg umef cn?

Qketpg beml umimtnu sam tnlkrp zdkfktt mscxds lqf ewyle
dkplnr bfrllnsc pmcpmyns bfncaoji sbleuhdf srlbbm ptss kyb.

A tnh mdo ney o brtp cbi yil rtyf zssp etb frf
jipm rqnf embe iel nedy lat flki jfs?

Hamlz fswtm olka o efe vhbpd ibdoe sesng
wdt ycuig bfwpe ytsif dke bgj oyyrt wmiq?

P...@stamp.on.it&post.it

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On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:43:01 +0100, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe <mel...@world.co.uk> wrote:
>I bow to your undoubted superior knowledge of these matters. I'm sure you
>are an absolute expert on how to stop horses with the bit between their
>teeth who are doing a rather nifty gallop before they hit the road again.
I wouldn't be so irresponsible, selfish or stupid as to take a horse out on public highway
that I thought I may have trouble stopping, and thereby putting not only the horse and
rider at risk, but also other people. Anyone that doesn't have full control of their horse
has no right to be anywhere near a road, but alas, there are some very stupid, ignorant,
selfish and sometimes over-horsed people about, that have no respect for their horse's
safety, their responsibilities, or for other people.

>However there is, of course, the very obvious point that he could have
>always stopped when requested politely....!
Could have....???. What your horse could and couldn't do is pretty irrelevant, what he
*does* do is what matters.
>
>Damn! You've spotted me! I'm too polite to say what it I suspect you do
>from 'the sounds of it'..... :)
Thankfully not what you say you do. But don't worry, you're not alone, there are stupid
people everywhere and in all walks of life :)

Cheers
Joe
>
>Melanie


Elisa Davey

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Jun 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/26/00
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In article <dj9uks8d3kmdkbq0g...@4ax.com>, Nick
<maa...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:38:00 +0100, Melanie Weaver-Thorpe <mel...@world.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>There's only so much nerve endings can take. You ought to see a pony on our
>>yard; the insides of the corners of his mouth are white with scar tissue.
>
>Poor pony.
>
>I have tried a lot of horses like that (and not bought them).
>
>It is amazing just how many horses have sharp teeth causing mouth problems as
>well.
>
>Nick

Just like to say Kate is getting better in her mouth, not handing on
bit, setting jaw so much, etc. using hollow French snaffle but
interested in this Waterford snaffle - is it kinder? Or was thinking of
rubber jointed snaffle - what do you all think?

Have just watched two affiliated shows at yard we are at - noticed
horses with milder bits seemed to go much better. Mind you if you buy a
horse and it has terrible mouth, can be very difficult.
--
Elisa

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