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mrssoft

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Jul 11, 2006, 5:16:06 AM7/11/06
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Hi, my horse Rose is on bute for at least 3 weeks. It has become
difficult to hide the taste and you can see her curling her pretty nose
up in disgust. She is in very light work so I dont want to over do it
and I am currently on the following:
Handful chaff, handful of conditioning cereal, handful of herbal mix,
garlic powder and a little molasses and of course the bute. the cereal
mixes are hiding the taste but I am concerned that she is going to put
on weight. Any ideas gratefully received.

Jill

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Jul 11, 2006, 5:37:43 AM7/11/06
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Apple juice concentrate from the health food shops

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jojo

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Jul 11, 2006, 5:47:35 AM7/11/06
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You could try making a tiny bran mash (the traditional way - small amount of
bran, hot water cover with a towel to sweat) once this is cooled down
sufficiently, add a handful of mix (if you are concerned about the quantity
of grain) and garlic and perhaps try unmolassed sugar beet (as this will cut
the sugar content, but give you fibre and taste) and finally the bute and
mix it up well. We add sliced carrots. (Dont give apples with the bute -
bute can irritate some horses stomachs and apples can be acidic.)

I have never had a horse turn his nose up at a bran mash!

Good luck.
Jo


jojo

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Jul 11, 2006, 5:50:51 AM7/11/06
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> Apple juice concentrate from the health food shops
>
> --
> regards
> Jill Bowis


Hi Jill
So sorry - I have just realised you and I must have posted at roughly the
same time and I have utterly contradicted your advise - unintentionally!

I am just paranoid re the acid thing due to one of my horses who was on a
lot of bute for a while suffering from ulcers.

Please enlarge on the apple juice thing out of interest- as I have never
heard of that one.

Jo


suer

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Jul 11, 2006, 6:17:22 AM7/11/06
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Honey/bute sandwich.
Honey/bute mixed in then added to feed or inside an apple/pear.

Failing that, mix bute with water. Buy a HUGE plastic syringe from the
chemist (they will question you thoroughly to ensure you're not a drug
dealer) and syringe it into her mouth like a wormer. She'll still
dribble some out though.

Sue K

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Jul 11, 2006, 6:28:58 AM7/11/06
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"mrssoft" <jan...@harptreesphotography.co.uk> wrote in message
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We use mint powder, and our pony takes the bute no probs.

HTH

Sue


Jill

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Jul 11, 2006, 6:52:03 AM7/11/06
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"jojo" <joanne.ri...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>> Apple juice concentrate from the health food shops
>>
>> --
>> regards
>> Jill Bowis
>
>
> Hi Jill
> So sorry - I have just realised you and I must have posted at roughly the
> same time and I have utterly contradicted your advise - unintentionally!

no problem - there are many ways to skin a cat

>
> I am just paranoid re the acid thing due to one of my horses who was on a
> lot of bute for a while suffering from ulcers.

One of mine was on it for about 4 years with no ill effects at all. [in the
old days] he was eventually pts some 6 years later.
You can get a gloopy apple juice concentrate from whole food shops which so
far I have known of few equines to refuse.
You need very little to mix the bute into - That in an oldfashioned bran
mash as you suggested would be my route but then I am old fashioned.
<grin>

The other one along the lines of Sue's honey sarnie - is a marmite sarnie
There is probably some good reason for not marmite but again there are a few
pones I know of who LURVE their marmite sarnies and you can hide ALL sorts
in those

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ClareB

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Jul 11, 2006, 7:41:50 AM7/11/06
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In Canada the bute came in apple flavoured paste syringes

ClareB


jojo

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Jul 11, 2006, 8:41:34 AM7/11/06
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> no problem - there are many ways to skin a cat
>
>>
>> I am just paranoid re the acid thing due to one of my horses who was on a
>> lot of bute for a while suffering from ulcers.
>
> One of mine was on it for about 4 years with no ill effects at all. [in
> the old days] he was eventually pts some 6 years later.
> You can get a gloopy apple juice concentrate from whole food shops which
> so far I have known of few equines to refuse.
> You need very little to mix the bute into -
Thanks for that - never heard of the stuff but well worth knowing.

> That in an oldfashioned bran mash as you suggested would be my route but
> then I am old fashioned.
> <grin>

You and me both :-)

Jo


Linda

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Jul 11, 2006, 9:12:01 AM7/11/06
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mrssoft wrote:
> Hi, my horse Rose is on bute for at least 3 weeks. It has become
> difficult to hide the taste and you can see her curling her pretty nose
> up in disgust.

Aww, poor Rose. Doesn't it just add to the guilt, too?!

I've one on Danilon and he really disliked it initially. I also fed
settlex at the same time and it might have been that. Either way, he
wasn't happy with his tea, which usually he'd wolf down.

I made it up with a tasty chaff. A handful would be enough to mix the
danilon and settlex in and so long as I didn't use too much water, he'd
eat it. He wouldn't lick the bucket like normal but he'd eat it.

I think it's about 7 weeks now and he is now licking the bottom of the
bucket so has just accepted that that is what his tea tastes like.

I know it's Danilon and not bute, but just wanted to let you know I'd
been in a similar position and he's happier now.

Hope Rose perks up and gets better soon
:o)

Linda

Ally Clelland

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Jul 11, 2006, 1:00:49 PM7/11/06
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"suer" <sc...@cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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If you're going to do this, mix the bute up with custard - it makes it into
a paste like a wormer, is slightly sweet and is difficult for them to spit
it out - those wee tubs of devon custard are brill - I had to do this with
Dasc with antibiotics and bute a couple of months ago.


Kate Morgan

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Jul 11, 2006, 2:49:00 PM7/11/06
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>
> > Hi, my horse Rose is on bute for at least 3 weeks. It has become
> > difficult to hide the taste and you can see her curling her pretty nose
> > up in disgust.
>

Smooth apple sauce, we get jars of it from Tesco`s mix the bute into the
apple sauce and then spread on to a slice of bread, make a sandwich, cut
into squares and put on top of feed. If that does not work use the apple
sauce and bute and syringe the lot down.

kate

Babbling

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Jul 11, 2006, 7:36:31 PM7/11/06
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How about cutting out the conditioning cereal, and giving her a bigger
quantity of the lowest feed value mix you can find? Horses all have
their favourite tastes and pet hates, so what one likes mightn't work
for another. All of mine have a sweet tooth, and they all like linseed
oil (one of them adores olive oil, but that's another story). So when I
need to mix in a powder, I add linseed oil to the feed, give it a good
shake to get it coating the mix well, then add the powder in and shake
again. I then chuck in some succulents -whatever i have to hand -
carrots, apples or bread - chopped small enough that it's easier to eat
the feed with the piece of fruit than to pick the fruit out of the
feed, if you know what I mean. I then add a wee bit of 'fresh'
unpowered feed in on top, so the feed seems normal to the horse until
they're well tucked in and unlikely to refuse to finish the grub.

I have to say though, all mine are ruled completely by their stomachs
and very rarely refuse their grub.

hth
Carol

mrssoft

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Jul 12, 2006, 3:55:59 AM7/12/06
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Thanks everyone. I now have it sorted. I mix the bute into the molasses
first and then add the food. She is back gobbling!!

James

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Jul 12, 2006, 5:36:35 PM7/12/06
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Kate Morgan wrote:
> Smooth apple sauce, we get jars of it from Tesco`s mix the bute into the
> apple sauce and then spread on to a slice of bread, make a sandwich, cut
> into squares and put on top of feed. If that does not work use the apple
> sauce and bute and syringe the lot down.
>
> kate

A syringe of molasses hides a multitude of sins! Have also been known
to use apricot jam - The foal in question loved it.

Alison Coote

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Jul 16, 2006, 12:05:00 PM7/16/06
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"mrssoft" <jan...@harptreesphotography.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thanks everyone. I now have it sorted. I mix the bute into the molasses
> first and then add the food. She is back gobbling!!

Glad you've got it sorted. Sophie won't eat feed with bute in it (and of
course she's the one who from time to time has needed it!) - I mix up some
icing sugar with water and the bute & use an old worming syringe and just
pipe it into her mouth. Works well.

Cheers.
Alison.


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