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Sue Rogers

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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Is the old saying below (can't remember exact words) substantiable or not?

"one white foot, keep him forever
two white feet, keep him for a while
three white feet, keep him for a day
four white feet, sell him right away

ch...@areti.co.uk

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Well, related to hooves, our farrier says it's a load of old rubbish.

We have a bay with three white socks and the hoof quality is no
different on the white feet than that of the dark one in our
experience, they're all good (fortunately!).

--
Chris Green (ch...@areti.co.uk)

imp

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In article <scr27-18100...@newhector.csi.cam.ac.uk>, Sue Rogers
wrote:
> Is the old saying below (can't remember exact words) substantiable or not?
>
> "one white foot, keep him forever
> two white feet, keep him for a while
> three white feet, keep him for a day
> four white feet, sell him right away
>

I always thought it was socks and like this (or are there two?):
One white sock, keep him not a day,
Two white socks, sell him as you may,
Three white socks, give him to a friend,
Four white socks, keep him till the end.

imp

>:)


Janet & Tim Costidell

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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No, it's rubbish. Although I do have one with four white socks that has
navicular! I also have one with two white socks that has laminitis. You
can't win.....

Sue Rogers wrote in message ...

Jane Tatchell

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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Sue Rogers asks:

> Is the old saying below (can't remember exact words)
> substantiable or not?
>
> "one white foot, keep him forever
> two white feet, keep him for a while
> three white feet, keep him for a day
> four white feet, sell him right away

No idea at all about whether that's just hogwash, but the version I know
is:

One white foot, buy him.
Two white feet, try him.
Three white feet, think about him.
Four white feet, forget about him.

Both of these rhymes were obviously written in the days before zero was
invented...

:-)

Jane.


Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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I can't remember it exactly either but the one I know (or rather don't
because I can't remember it perfectly!) is:

One white sock, buy the horse
Two white socks, try the horse
Three white socks, doubt the horse
Four white socks, walk away from the horse

Which is a load of old poo because Boyce (and countless other wonder
horses!) has four white socks!

Melanie
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Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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Melanie Weaver-Thorpe wrote:
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> Three white socks, doubt the horse
> Four white socks, walk away from the horse

Duh....it must be 'four white socks, go without the horse'

I must be having another blonde day...sorry chaps!

Francis Burton

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In article <scr27-18100...@newhector.csi.cam.ac.uk>,

Sue Rogers <sc...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>Is the old saying below (can't remember exact words) substantiable or not?
>
>"one white foot, keep him forever
>two white feet, keep him for a while
>three white feet, keep him for a day
>four white feet, sell him right away

Light hooves are just as strong as dark, but white socks
are more prone to mud rash?

Francis

Esther Young

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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Jane Tatchell <Ja...@MatrixLink.com> wrote in message
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> Both of these rhymes were obviously written in the days before zero was
> invented...

I do remember reading somewhere (really useful source of information me -
can't remeber where I found anything...), that some white feet absorb water
and dry out again quicker than dark feet, and that this is where the rhyme
had originated for - ie a white foot would lose shoes easier, or wear down
easier.

I don't think I hold with that either, though - friends whose horses are
prone to losing shoes lose the shoes from dark feet just as easily as the
white feet.

Esther

Pu...@-Stamp-On-It-&-Post.It

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The one I remember is.....two white socks = jail bait!!


Blackspruce

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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Joe invited comment by writing:

<The one I remember is.....two white socks = jail bait!!>

LOL! trust you!

c);-)


Blackspruce

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Does anyone know the Arab Rhyme about the three ages of horse - something
about first seven years..something, second seven years give him to your
brother, third seven years keep him for yourself....or am I just rambling..

Cowgirl c):-)

Pu...@-Stamp-On-It-&-Post.It

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:05:24 GMT, "Blackspruce" <cla...@telusplanet.net> wrote:

>....or am I just rambling..

Hmmm....

Ally Clelland

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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In article <VA.00000084.00a8f1cf@imp>,
i...@avernus.noluncheonmeatherethx.ndo.co.uk wrote:

> I always thought it was socks and like this (or are there two?):
> One white sock, keep him not a day,
> Two white socks, sell him as you may,
> Three white socks, give him to a friend,
> Four white socks, keep him till the end.

The version I remeber was the kind of opposite of that - like

Four white socks, keep him not a day, etc

Ally


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Francis Burton

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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In article <jg3susci80ra2ae0i...@4ax.com>,

Nick <nick...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>Light hooves are just as strong as dark
>
>Beg to differ, I find white horn softer to rasp when trimming feet on the
>youngsters

I used a question mark because I wasn't 100% sure
about the hoof "strength" point. I _think_ I remember
reading that the pigmented vs unpigmented horn issue
had be researched and no difference had been found.
I can't find anything relevant on the Net, including
a search of CAB abstracts, but will look at my
farriery books when I get home.

(Though I haven't read it yet,
http://www.cpb.uokhsc.edu/ojvr/hoof99b.htm
looks interesting. However, it doesn't address hoof
colour.)

Francis

Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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I do remember this, but it was always quoted in relation to chestnuts,
the story being that a chestnut with four white socks/feet was always
going to be crazy.

I don't ever remember it being hauled out with regards to other colours,
in fact most of us used to think that four white socks on a bay or black
was to be aimed for - very flashy.

B


Jane Tatchell wrote:
>
> Sue Rogers asks:


> > Is the old saying below (can't remember exact words)
> > substantiable or not?
> >
> > "one white foot, keep him forever
> > two white feet, keep him for a while
> > three white feet, keep him for a day
> > four white feet, sell him right away
>

> No idea at all about whether that's just hogwash, but the version I know
> is:
>
> One white foot, buy him.
> Two white feet, try him.
> Three white feet, think about him.
> Four white feet, forget about him.
>

> Both of these rhymes were obviously written in the days before zero was
> invented...
>

> :-)
>
> Jane.

Kay McCart

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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>The version I remeber was the kind of opposite of that - like
>
>Four white socks, keep him not a day, etc

The version I've been desperately trying to remember ended with
" four white socks - give him to the wife"

Just goes to show what a load of tosh it all is :-)
Kay

Swreg Administration

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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Jane,

> One white foot, buy him.
> Two white feet, try him.
> Three white feet, think about him.
> Four white feet, forget about him.
>

I just asked my Mom who always used to quote it to me.

One white sock - buy him
two white socks - try him
three white socks - give him to your man
four white socks - leave him

Irish superstition.

Michelle & Yossie


Sue Rogers

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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Aha - from all the various incantations of the poem, it seems like it only
applies to geldings and stallions so I'll be okay buying a horse with
white legs provided it's a female horse ;-)

Melanie Weaver-Thorpe

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Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin wrote:
>
> I do remember this, but it was always quoted in relation to chestnuts,
> the story being that a chestnut with four white socks/feet was always
> going to be crazy.

'Tis piffle. Boyce is chestnut with four white socks (but not white feet)
and he's not crazy! Well...not much.... :)

Laura Newberry

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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>>Aha - from all the various incantations of the poem, it seems like it only
applies to geldings and stallions so I'll be okay buying a horse with
white legs provided it's a female horse ;-)

Maybe they only had male horses in days of old...
:-))

Caroline

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In article <VA.000013a...@atlantic-coast.com>, Swreg
Administration <sup...@atlantic-coast.com> writes

>Jane,
>
>> One white foot, buy him.
>> Two white feet, try him.
>> Three white feet, think about him.
>> Four white feet, forget about him.
>>
>
>I just asked my Mom who always used to quote it to me.
>
>One white sock - buy him
>two white socks - try him
>three white socks - give him to your man
>four white socks - leave him
>
>Irish superstition.
>
>Michelle & Yossie
>
The version I heard (think it was from the 'Jill' books again!)

One - buy him
Two - try him
Three - suspect him
Four - reject him
--
Caroline
"Damaged people are dangerous. They know they can survive." - Josephine Hart.

Pu...@-Stamp-On-It-&-Post.It

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:46:20 +0100, "Laura Newberry"
<La...@laurashouse.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Maybe they only had male horses in days of old...
>:-))

All the female ones were in the kitchen....where they belong...

<duck>


Joe

Mal

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:27:42 +0100, Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin
<bernadette.n...@bt.com> wrote:

>I don't ever remember it being hauled out with regards to other colours,
>in fact most of us used to think that four white socks on a bay or black
>was to be aimed for - very flashy.

Most definitely in agreement with this thought..... :-)

Mal
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Laura Newberry

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>>All the female ones were in the kitchen....where they belong...

I'll pretend you didnt say that, but while we're on the subject...
My little 'orse (a mare) once followed me into the kitchen when I lived at
mum and dads. Mum went absolutely mental because she made permanant
hoofprints in the lino. We had to take her out of the front door though
because there wasnt enough room to turn her round in the kitchen. :-)))


Mal

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 14:18:53 +0000, sc...@cam.ac.uk (Sue Rogers)
wrote:

>Is the old saying below (can't remember exact words) substantiable or not?
>
>"one white foot, keep him forever
>two white feet, keep him for a while
>three white feet, keep him for a day
>four white feet, sell him right away


The version I heard was

one white leg, buy it
two white legs, try it
three white legs, look well about it,
four white legs, leave without it.

Mal with Bear who has four white socks(stockings) .... oh well....

On a serious note, apart from one foot which has a propensity to have
thrush in it, he does have very good feet.
http://www.tack.org

Pu...@-Stamp-On-It-&-Post.It

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:12:50 +0100, Mal <u...@Tack.org> wrote:

>one white leg, buy it

Jeez, who'd want a one-legged horse?

Pu...@-Stamp-On-It-&-Post.It

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:27:22 +0100, "Laura Newberry"
<La...@laurashouse.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>My little 'orse (a mare) once followed me into the kitchen when I lived at
>mum and dads. Mum went absolutely mental because she made permanant
>hoofprints in the lino. We had to take her out of the front door though
>because there wasnt enough room to turn her round in the kitchen. :-)))

lol

You mean she didn't stay for tea? Heartless!


Joe

Ally Clelland

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In article <8sp6rl$trg$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>,

"Laura Newberry" <La...@laurashouse.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >>All the female ones were in the kitchen....where they belong...
>
> I'll pretend you didnt say that, but while we're on the subject...
> My little 'orse (a mare) once followed me into the kitchen when I
lived at
> mum and dads. Mum went absolutely mental because she made permanant
> hoofprints in the lino. We had to take her out of the front door
though
> because there wasnt enough room to turn her round in the kitchen.
:-)))

My old mare did that once as well, Mum wasn't very pleased, it was quite
funny though - still got a piccy of it somewhere:-)

Francis Burton

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In article <44muus0hcb54bj374...@4ax.com>,

Nick <nick...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>I can't find anything relevant on the Net, including
>>a search of CAB abstracts, but will look at my
>>farriery books when I get home.
>
>I don't know of any references but can vouch for the fact that white is easier
>to rasp. This comparison was on a skewbald horse who had some white and some
>dark feet so the only variable was the colour.

Hopefully adding up to four in total!

You could well be right - only I have this nagging
feeling I read that this had been shown to be untrue
in general.

I had a quick look in a few books last night and
found nothing. I have emailed Alan Chapman to ask if
he knows of any studies. Jim Ferrie, the farrier, is
coming to trim feet next Tuesday - I'll ask him too.

Francis

Ally Clelland

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Oct 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/20/00
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In article <97204956...@iris.nyx.net>,
fbu...@nyx10.nyx.net (Francis Burton) wrote:

> I had a quick look in a few books last night and
> found nothing. I have emailed Alan Chapman to ask if
> he knows of any studies. Jim Ferrie, the farrier, is
> coming to trim feet next Tuesday - I'll ask him too.
>
> Francis

aha, as of the Ferrie brothers? good farriers, those men..

Mal

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:19:09 +0100, Put-@-Stamp-On-It-&-Post.It 
wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:12:50 +0100, Mal <u...@Tack.org> wrote:
>
>>one white leg, buy it
>
>Jeez, who'd want a one-legged horse?

You been at the sauce again?
Mal

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Francis Burton

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In article <8spm8d$6kk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Ally Clelland <a_cle...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>aha, as of the Ferrie brothers? good farriers, those men..

Yes indeed - the best in the west (of Scotland).

Francis

S Macran

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Oct 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/23/00
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Sue Rogers wrote:

> Is the old saying below (can't remember exact words) substantiable or not?
>
> "one white foot, keep him forever
> two white feet, keep him for a while
> three white feet, keep him for a day
> four white feet, sell him right away


No I donlt think so. I've looked after many horses with white feet and
they're hooves have never seemed particulraly weak. Am also rather
partial to the chestnut with four white socks type.

Sue


Petra

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Oct 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/23/00
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Sue Rogers wrote:

> Is the old saying below (can't remember exact words) substantiable or not?
>
> "one white foot, keep him forever
> two white feet, keep him for a while
> three white feet, keep him for a day
> four white feet, sell him right away

Well, as I have not owned a horse with less than 4 white feet for many years I
suppose I'm the wrong person to ask....

I don't think there's anything in it, even my farrier insists that white feet
are no weaker than dark feet and don't suffer any more problems.

So, should your heart desire a horse with 4 white feet / legs I don't think
that should be of any consequence .........

Petra
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Coppercat21

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Oct 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/24/00
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Melanie wrote

>Bernadette Noujaim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>> I do remember this, but it was always quoted in relation to chestnuts,
>> the story being that a chestnut with four white socks/feet was always
>> going to be crazy.
>
>'Tis piffle. Boyce is chestnut with four white socks (but not white feet)
>and he's not crazy! Well...not much.... :)

Yup - Salazar has 4 white legs and feet - not the least bit crazy! (Not sure
about his owner mind....)

Linda

Ron Knight

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Oct 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/25/00
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Well it goes like this=
one white leg look well about him
two white legs go and see him
three white legs go and buy him
four white legs do with out him
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myle...@my-deja.com

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In article <d5JJ5.681$ZA5....@news.dircon.co.uk>,

"Ron Knight" <rkn...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
> Well it goes like this=
> one white leg look well about him
> two white legs go and see him
> three white legs go and buy him
> four white legs do with out him

Oh well ..even tho its an old thread, I might as well put in the
version I have heard:

One white sock - buy him

Two white socks - try him
Three white socks - be on the sly
Four white socks - pass him by.

But I never did pay no mind to rhymes - my boy has three white socks
and zero problems!

Myles

Alison

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<myle...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8t909k$569$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...


> In article <d5JJ5.681$ZA5....@news.dircon.co.uk>,
> "Ron Knight" <rkn...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
> > Well it goes like this=
> > one white leg look well about him
> > two white legs go and see him
> > three white legs go and buy him
> > four white legs do with out him
>
> Oh well ..even tho its an old thread, I might as well put in the
> version I have heard:
>
> One white sock - buy him
> Two white socks - try him
> Three white socks - be on the sly
> Four white socks - pass him by.
>

The version I knew was different again:

One white sock - keep him for a day
Two white socks - send him far away
Three white socks - sell him to a friend
Four white sock - keep him to the end.


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