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Peter Forbes

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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I have mentioned this before on the newsgroup: keep an eye open for any old
books that may have engine data in them. A lot of useful info can be
gleaned from books which, on the face of it, have no immediate connection
with engines.

I recently repatriated from the US, a set of Pitmans 'Mechanical Educator',
3 volumes, which are the companion volumes to the 'Electrical Educator' set
I already have.

Inside, there are nice old plates of 1930's diesels and gas engines,
including Crossley, National and Ruston, plus bio's of Diesel and the other
inventors of the day.

The information is also different to what we see in modern engine books,
with companies such as Mirrlees having the name of Mirrlees-Watson Co., and
based in Glasgow. While they did change their name a few times, this is the
first time I have seen this version connected with the first oil engine
built in the UK.

The gas engines section starts with Otto & Langden's atmospheric gas
engine, and there is a nice full-page picture of it.

As a collective group, we need to preserve not just the engines, but the
literature in which they feature as well.

Peter

Peter & Rita Forbes
Lister Cold-Starting Diesel Engines
Email: die...@easynet.co.uk
Engine related web pages at:-
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/

Geoff Challinor

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Nov 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/17/99
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HELLO EVERYONE,

HAVING A GO AT REPLYING.


>with companies such as Mirrlees having the name of Mirrlees-Watson Co., and
>based in Glasgow. While they did change their name a few times, this is the
>first time I have seen this version connected with the first oil engine
>built in the UK.

<AT THE TIME THEY BUILT THEIR FIRST DIESEL THE COMPANY WAS ACTUALLY KNOWN
AS "MIRRLEES,WATSON & YARYAN,LTD.

Regards

Geoff Challinor.

Jack Watson

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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> <AT THE TIME THEY BUILT THEIR FIRST DIESEL THE COMPANY WAS ACTUALLY KNOWN> AS "MIRRLEES,WATSON & YARYAN,LTD.
> Regards > Geoff Challinor.

Re: books: Have you got/read/seen any of John Lamb's reference books? I
have his "Running and Maintenance of the Marine Diesel Engine", 5th ed,
1939. Fascinating stuff! He also had several others in similar vein.

Re Mirrlees: The Mirrlees we had at the Roma Electric Light & Power Co,
(Queensland) carried on her plate the name "Mirrlees, Bickerton and
Day". She was (is?) a 5 cylinder engine of some 550 hp @ 375 rpm. This
would have been in the 50's. They certainly must have had some name
changes over the years.
Jack W
Perth, Oz

Peter Forbes

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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I have that one, as well as a couple of others on diesels by the same
author.

Marine diesel books don't seem as popular as stationary/industrial types,
and J.W.M.Sothern and Louis R Ford are authors who have contributed good
books on the subject, including sections on steam engines as well as
hydraulics, propellors, steering gear and refrigeration systems.

A few excellent early books to look out for are:

High Speed Diesel Engines, P.M. Heldt. 1932
Land & Marine Diesel Engines, Giorgio Supino, 1921
High Speed Oil Engines, Caxton Press, 3 vols, various dates.
Elements of Diesel Engineering, Orville Adams, 1937
The High-Speed Compression-Ignition Engine, C.B.Dicksee, 1940-46
Verbal Notes and Sketches on Marine Diesel Engines, J.W.M. Sothern (1 or 2
vols)
Practical Marine Diesel Engineering, Lois R.Ford, 1931

Peter

Peter & Rita Forbes
Lister Cold-Starting Diesel Engines
Email: die...@easynet.co.uk
Engine related web pages at:-
http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/

Jack Watson <jack...@perthpcug.org.au> wrote

Bob Spowart

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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Peter Forbes wrote in message <01bf313f$3c594fd0$9b7dd4d4@rushden01>...
<SNIP>

>As a collective group, we need to preserve not just the engines, but the
>literature in which they feature as well.
>
Agreed! My bibliophile collection includes a 1921 copy of Ripper's Heat
Engines (Formerly "Steam"); Fowler's Mechanical Engineer's Pocket Book,
1919; Mechanical World Year Book, 1936, 1942, 1947; Fowler's Electrical
Engineer's Pocket Book, 1948; A Michelin Guide to Britain, 1914; (Any offers
for that one???) Bacons "Up to date Atlas and Guide to London, date unknown,
but the Underground map shows the geographic position of the lines and
stations instead of the more familiar schematic version.
Bob

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