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Don't buy an Amanco without a mag!

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Arthur Griffin

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Apr 3, 2006, 6:51:34 PM4/3/06
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In the early days of my engine interest, a friend warned me off an
Amanco without its magneto.

It was good advice.

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Regards,
Arthur G

jdung...@eircom.net

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Apr 3, 2006, 7:01:18 PM4/3/06
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Arthur Griffin wrote:
> In the early days of my engine interest, a friend warned me off an
> Amanco without its magneto.
>
> It was good advice.

Good Advice Arthur -Could the Same go for most engines !

John D

miley_bob

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Apr 3, 2006, 7:39:05 PM4/3/06
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<jdung...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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Well that depends really on what mag they should have?If its only a common
mag, say a Wico A Series or a Lucas breadloaf, then they are relativley
cheap and easy to get hold off. But with the older engines, mag's tend to be
more difficult to i
find. Allthough i have managed to find a nice bosch type 22 flick mag for my
1916 Lister J for under £100 (which i thought was pretty reasonable).

Incidently, my brother has an amanco which is missing its mag. He is simply
converting it to battery and coil ignition, partly because of the price of
mag and partly because the mag braacket as being smashed and poorly
repaired.

It must also be remebered that spares on ebay often bring 2 or 3 times as
much as they do on the rally field or at auctions etc.

Mike M

mile...@hotmail.com


Dave Croft

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Apr 3, 2006, 7:52:06 PM4/3/06
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"miley_bob" <mile...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:22ydnTY4Asm...@karoo.co.uk...

About 15 years ago I sold a complete 3 HP Amanco (With working Mag) that had a leak
between the cylinder & hopper. The farmer had stored fertilizer in bags over the engine
& leaks caused the corrosion. It needed sleeving & I didn't fancy the job.
I sold the lot for the price (Those days) of the magneto. I think about £70.
PS I haven't seen it again anywhere.
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Dave Croft
Warrington
England
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Paul Swindell

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Apr 4, 2006, 4:00:19 AM4/4/06
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Only the other day my Mrs was complaining about the rubbish in the top of
the airing cupboard, she's looking at it in a different light now. One of
the mags in there is a 2 bolt fixing Amanco which was given to me by
retiring agricultural engineer a couple of years ago, just need a engine at
the right price to put it on.

Paul


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Arthur Griffin

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Apr 4, 2006, 8:01:41 AM4/4/06
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Amanco engines use an Amanco mag, strangely enough. They are about as
hard to find as rocking horse dung because they are made of such a
lousy material, and have often failed long before the engine. Webster
Tripolars are similarly horrible constructions, but a little more easy
to find and not as expensive.

Obviously Lister RS1, SR1 and Wico A mags are much more easily
available, but they look a real b*gger on an Amanco :-).

I'm quite well aware of the mark up on eBay, the point of my post was
to bring that information with others, as I've often seen people
unloading their magneto free Amancos for relatively high prices.

Regards,
Arthur G

Kim Siddorn

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Apr 4, 2006, 10:57:51 AM4/4/06
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I fully appreciate the fact that having the right magneto is as important as
having the right carb, but I came across an interesting sign at a rally
which I paraphrase here.

"This engine has been deliberately fitted with a modern impulse magneto.
This allows me to start the engine & exhibit it rather than having to leave
it in the shed with the correct magneto fitted. As age progresses, I find I
am no longer able to spin the engine over fast enough to make it fire with
the standard magneto."

In actual fact, the mag was mostly concealed by a sheet steel shield - also
a later fitting - and even ole' eagle-eye here might well have missed the
modification.

I submit that he had a valid point.

Regards,

Kim Siddorn


Nick H

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Apr 4, 2006, 10:56:01 AM4/4/06
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That is a frightener Arthur. I'd certainly consider battery and coil, or
even an HT conversion rather than pay that sort of money.

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Nick H


philipte

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Apr 4, 2006, 11:07:01 AM4/4/06
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Arthur Griffin wrote:
> Amanco engines use an Amanco mag, strangely enough. They are about as
> hard to find as rocking horse dung because they are made of such a
> lousy material, and have often failed long before the engine. Webster
> Tripolars are similarly horrible constructions, but a little more easy
> to find and not as expensive.

Anorak mode *ON*

When I was in the USA a few years back, I saw some Amanco's, or Uniteds
as they are called over there, fitted with Webster Tripoars, on a
proper mounting bracket. ISTR these were sold in Canada?, and never
came to the UK. The early bronze Amanco mags. are fine, its the later
pot metal ones that gradually disintegrate. Of course, in the USA it
was possible to by these engines sans magneto, and use battery and coil
ignition....magnetos cost extra!

Anorak mode *OFF*

Regards

Philip T-E

Nick H

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Apr 4, 2006, 11:06:37 AM4/4/06
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"philipte" <phil...@clara.co.uk> wrote (snip)

>
> Anorak mode *OFF*
>

Who are you kidding ;-)

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Nick H


Nick H

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Apr 4, 2006, 11:36:17 AM4/4/06
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"Nick H" <n_hig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
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> "philipte" <phil...@clara.co.uk> wrote (snip)
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> > Anorak mode *OFF*
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> Who are you kidding ;-)
>

Oh, and ISTR the engines we know a Amanco in UK were sold as Associated in
USA (often with battery and coil ignition as you point out). United engines
were built by the same Co. but marketed separately.

Nick H (Uber Anorak!)


Dan Howden

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Apr 4, 2006, 1:24:09 PM4/4/06
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I recall seeing a contemporary advert for Amancos that listed the
engine as approx 25 dollars and the magneto ignition as a 10 dollar
optional extra - so allowing for inflation that price as a proportion
is about right!

My Hired Man has been on a fluorescent light choke and battery for
years - and I consider it to be representative of a lot of American
engines of the period.

Regards

Dan

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