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Nick Highfield

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Sep 5, 2002, 8:30:22 AM9/5/02
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As my query on commutator cleaning seems to have raised a few questions on
the set itself, here are the details.

Villiers Mark 10/2. No.850D 26042. Direct coupled to Transmotor
(Copenhagen). Eenfaset, selvmagn, selvregl, AC-generator type: VG-35sp.
No.102998. 220V, 2.96A, 50 c/s, 0.65KVA.

All in a tubular frame with control box containing field rheostat, voltmeter
and vibrating reed type frequency indicator. There is a sheet steel 'bonnet'
on top of the frame with hinged flap to access petrol cap and what I take to
be lubricating instructions as follows:-

OLIESTANDEN
skal efterses daglig
1.Stop motoren
2. Paafyld olie til maerket paa pinden

Everything is screened and supressed in typical military fashion, colour is
olive drab and, with liberal use of 1/2 thick plate to support the engine
and alternator on shock mounts, the whole thing weighs far more than any
fairly modern sub KW gen set has a right to!

Perhaps the most distinctive feature is the exhaust. Rather than the usual
nasty pepper-pot affair, it has an expansion chamber which would look more
at home on a two-stroke motorcycle and actually gives a rather nice subdued
exhast note.

Nick H.


Nick Highfield

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Sep 5, 2002, 10:31:49 AM9/5/02
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I forgot to add that inside the terminal box cover of the alternator is a
wireing diagram and the words - "omdr-retning set mod akseltap". A
translation of this and any of the other stuff would be most welcome if
anyone out there is familiar with scandiwegian languages!

Nick H.

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Dave Croft

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Sep 5, 2002, 12:26:36 PM9/5/02
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> I forgot to add that inside the terminal box cover of the alternator is a
> wireing diagram and the words - "omdr-retning set mod akseltap". A
> translation of this and any of the other stuff would be most welcome if
> anyone out there is familiar with scandiwegian languages!
> Nick H.
> "Nick Highfield" <aero...@industria.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:unejkhn...@corp.supernews.com...
> > As my query on commutator cleaning seems to have raised a few questions
on
> > the set itself, here are the details.
> > Villiers Mark 10/2. No.850D 26042. Direct coupled to Transmotor
> > (Copenhagen). Eenfaset, selvmagn, selvregl, AC-generator type: VG-35sp.
> > No.102998. 220V, 2.96A, 50 c/s, 0.65KVA.

God dag Nick, My Dansk isn't very good but I think it says something like
Rotation direction set towards gudgeon.
I think the plate says
single phase self magnetising self regulating.
I think some words are abreviated.

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Dave Croft
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Peter Scales

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Sep 5, 2002, 1:42:08 PM9/5/02
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In message <unejkhn...@corp.supernews.com>, Nick Highfield
<aero...@industria.co.uk> writes

>As my query on commutator cleaning seems to have raised a few questions on
>the set itself, here are the details.
>
>Villiers Mark 10/2. No.850D 26042. Direct coupled to Transmotor
>(Copenhagen). Eenfaset, selvmagn, selvregl, AC-generator type: VG-35sp.

selvmagn = self-exciting? selvregl = self-regulating?

>No.102998. 220V, 2.96A, 50 c/s, 0.65KVA.
>
>All in a tubular frame with control box containing field rheostat, voltmeter
>and vibrating reed type frequency indicator. There is a sheet steel 'bonnet'
>on top of the frame with hinged flap to access petrol cap and what I take to
>be lubricating instructions as follows:-
>
>OLIESTANDEN
>skal efterses daglig
>1.Stop motoren
>2. Paafyld olie til maerket paa pinden

OIL LEVEL
must be checked daily
1. Stop engine
2. Fill [with] oil to the upper? mark

<snip>

I am having it all checked by a professional Swedish-English translator
as I type.

Pete
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Peter Scales

J. K. Siddorn

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Sep 5, 2002, 7:32:45 PM9/5/02
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Got it! We've got an ex Danish Army chap in our Kent group. Here's what he
said:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


The first bit is easy:

OIL LEVEL must be checked daily

1) Stop the engine
2) Top up oil to mark on [dip] stick

The last line is a bit cryptic. Literally it is:
"Turn-direction seen toward axel notch"

If the equipment is standard HMAK or CFM issue, I would guess it refers
to the turn (thread) of the cam or possibly a crank for starting the
beast. Is there an arrow next to the cam or crank? Is it a Dennis by
chance?

--
Regards,

Kim Siddorn.

"When men die, their Maker may reward them for their efforts by allowing
them to live again as male dogs. Thus freed from inhibition, they can spend
a cheerful existence doing all those things they really wanted to do when
they were men."

Paneb, Foreman mason in the Valley of the Kings, circa 1190BC
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J. K. Siddorn

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Sep 5, 2002, 7:32:45 PM9/5/02
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Got it! We've got an ex Danish Army chap in our Kent group. Here's what he
said:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


The first bit is easy:

OIL LEVEL must be checked daily
1) Stop the engine
2) Top up oil to mark on [dip] stick

The last line is a bit cryptic. Literally it is:
"Turn-direction seen toward axel notch"

If the equipment is standard HMAK or CFM issue, I would guess it refers
to the turn (thread) of the cam or possibly a crank for starting the
beast. Is there an arrow next to the cam or crank? Is it a Dennis by
chance?

--
Regards,

Kim Siddorn.

"When men die, their Maker may reward them for their efforts by allowing
them to live again as male dogs. Thus freed from inhibition, they can spend
a cheerful existence doing all those things they really wanted to do when
they were men."

Paneb, Foreman mason in the Valley of the Kings, circa 1190BC
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Peter Scales

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Sep 6, 2002, 2:43:06 AM9/6/02
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In message <B8zZjHmw...@sleepy.demon.co.uk>, Peter Scales
<pe...@sleepy.demon.co.uk> writes

>In message <unejkhn...@corp.supernews.com>, Nick Highfield
><aero...@industria.co.uk> writes
>>As my query on commutator cleaning seems to have raised a few questions on
>>the set itself, here are the details.
>>
>>Villiers Mark 10/2. No.850D 26042. Direct coupled to Transmotor
>>(Copenhagen). Eenfaset, selvmagn, selvregl, AC-generator type: VG-35sp.
>>No.102998. 220V, 2.96A, 50 c/s, 0.65KVA.
>>
>>All in a tubular frame with control box containing field rheostat, voltmeter
>>and vibrating reed type frequency indicator. There is a sheet steel 'bonnet'
>>on top of the frame with hinged flap to access petrol cap and what I take to
>>be lubricating instructions as follows:-
>>
>>OLIESTANDEN
>>skal efterses daglig
>>1.Stop motoren
>>2. Paafyld olie til maerket paa pinden

My translator friend said:

"OK, first and foremost, that ain't Swedish! Even allowing for the
substitution of letters due to the absence of Swedish characters, it
still looks more like halfway between Norwegian and Danish, however...

> Eenfaset, selvmagn, selvregl,
single-phase, <I think> spontaneous (e.g. of its own accord), self-
regulating

>OLIESTANDEN
OIL LEVELS
>skal efterses daglig
must be checked daily
>1.Stop motoren
Stop the engine


>2. Paafyld olie til maerket paa pinden

Fill with oil up to the mark on the stick (presumably a dipstick)

>"omdr-retning set mod akseltap"
<the first word isn't Swedish, Danish or Norwegian, but it's close
enough to the D and N for "revolution/rotation" that I think that's what
it is, so...> revolution set or seen ?in relation to/relative
to/against? axel spindle/pivot arm/axle bar/king pin

Is any of that feasible in the context you're looking at?

Hope this helps, at least a little, and sorry not to be able to be more
definite, but this really is a bastardised "language" usage... Do feel
free to give me a call if I can be of any further help."

--
Peter Scales

Nick Highfield

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Sep 6, 2002, 5:09:28 AM9/6/02
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Blimey chaps, this news group really is a goldmine of information!

Single phase, self magnetising (exiting), self regulating, makes sense, as
do the oiling instructions. But I can't make head nor tail of the presumed
rotation direction bit.
Fortunately, as I said, the unit is direct coupled to the engine (clockwise
rope start), so I shall assume that the manufacturer got that bit right.

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Lars Ericson

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Sep 6, 2002, 5:33:02 AM9/6/02
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It says,check oil level daily.1.Stop the motor.2.Add oil to the mark on the pin.

I seem to remember that the Villiers Mk.10 had a pin on the botton of the filler
cap!As to the rest of the danish,I haven't a clue.Sorry!
Ron.

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