Blackstone Identification
John W
The engine was manufactured in 1926. It has a serial number of 159888.
I have been told it is an AV type. It has a typical AV mushroom Air intake.
The instruction book that came with the engine is for a W type.
However the drawings in the operating & instruction manual do not look like
the engine.
The main difference being the location of the fuel pump which is adjacent to
the side shaft bearing and the mushroom air intake assembly. The engine is
fitted with a scroll inspirator
The cylinder has the letter L between the cooling water outlet and the air
intake assembly.
I would like to know what colours the engine would have been painted & what
pin
striping would have been on the engine.
John W
Greenhill
South Australia
Colin Osborne
"Help is need to identify the model of a Blackstone Engine.
The engine was manufactured in 1926. It has a serial number of 159888.
I'm told it's an AV, & has a mushroom air filter"
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John -- this may be a modified duplicate of a message which
has disappeared from the screen! So, start again JIC.....
I have a 12.5hp Model B SFC. That's 148655, built 1920, &
that has mustroom air filter -- or should have, as that's
one of the missing items.
The mushroom air intake was used on many Blackstone models
from the mid teens onwards, so that narrows the field but
not a lot! Must confess I don't know what a scroll
inspirator is......
Give us some clues, & ideally a piccie. What's the HP and/or
bore? What size are the flywheels? Most important, what fuel
does it burn -- fuel-oil or kero? Does the manufacturers plate
say Carters Patent or Spring Injection? Lamp start? Does it
have the air pipe running above the cylinder typical of many
Blackstones?
Have you contacted MichaelStamford at aol.com? His web
site (try Google) gives a potted history on Blackstone models,
& he has some original factory records. He also sells repro
literature. He's just sent me a manual for Model ACG/ABC/ABP
fuel oil engines.
I've checked my literature as follows :-
1906 Instructions for Blackstone Type W oil engines
1912 Blackstone Oil Engine catalogue
1920 Blackstone Oil Engine catalogue
1920 Instructions for working horizontal cold start kero engines
1923 Instructions for fuel oil engines
1925(?) Instructions & Parts List for Spring Injection oil engines
None of those list the AV, 'tho they list a bewildering range
of model designations. I'm afraid Blackstone designations require
research worthy of a Ph.D. The 1912 catalogue does list AW & AWC
as standard oil engines.
Patrick Livingstone in Oz has many pix of local Blackstones.
Most make me green with envy. other than the most amazingly
painted SFC Portable at a recent Nationals. Purple & puce, or
similar ........ Might be work contacting him for local expertise.
I'm sure you have more Blackstones out there than we have in
Blighty.
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"I would like to know what colours the engine would have been
painted & what pin striping would have been on the engine."
Leicester Museum have a Model A SFC fixed base engine (the
type with the air compressor cylinder attached -- as is mine).
It is well painted in authentic colours & lining, in the style
used by all Blackstone horizontals of the period. I have a many
detail pix of this engine, & could send you a CD.
Mine is in an indelicate rust colour, with almost no trace of
the original colouring. Blackstone colours have been matched to
current BSI paint numbers. Can supply those references.
Contact me off-list (gwbert at email.com) if you think I might
be able to help. If you include a pic or two, that would be good.
Colin Osborne
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Colin Osborne
Just remembered the following reference to a
museum on your patch that claims to have the most
complete Blackstone collection in the world. I would
hope they have some colour pix.
Would be grateful for more info on this collection,
eg Do they have an SFC portable? Is it worth burning
up my air miles to come over for a look!
Colin
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Directions
The township of Port Neill is six hundred kilometres from Adelaide on the
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Contact Details
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Port Neill, SA, 5604
Other Contacts
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Mobile phone: 0428 889 041
Telephone: 08 8688 9067
Peter A Forbes
>Have you contacted MichaelStamford at aol.com? His web
>site (try Google)
http://www.oldengine.org/members/blkstone
Michael's contact details are on the 'contact' page of the site
>gives a potted history on Blackstone models,
>& he has some original factory records. He also sells repro
>literature. He's just sent me a manual for Model ACG/ABC/ABP
>fuel oil engines.
Peter
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