On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 00:00:01 +0100, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)
wrote:
>Does anyone know anything about this bunch of jokers? I have the whois
>info (PO Box Address, Telephone number of administrative contact and his
>name/e-mail addy). I have the details from Companies house (snail-mail
>address) so I don't need that.
>
>I Googled and found a thread on uk.wreck.motorcycles <spit> about them
>and a couple of German websites getting hot under the collar about them.
>
>The reason I ask is that a friend of a friend has just had a notice from
>this lot. It's a letter that is the usual thuggish threats to be
>expected from debt collection agencies. Lots of vague threats, warnings
>of dire events if he doesn't pay, a threat to put him on a credit card
>black list; that sort of stuff.
>
>However there's no way he could have parked where they say he parked and
>since the location is close to one of the places I work, I checked out
>the details at that location and... it's perfectly legitimate to park
>there for two hours free of charge and the ticket says the car was
>parked there for 40 minutes.
>
>So, it looks like the Euro Parking lot are telling pork pies on two
>counts (1) car was not there (2) even if it was it would have to be
>there longer to incur a fine.
>
>The German websites feature similar complaints. Does anyone know if
>this is a scam? A company simply reporting random number plates to
>licensing agencies in order to make threats to innocent drivers of whom
>some will pay up just to keep the peace? Their webshite makes similar
>vague threats and tries to hide the section giving details of how to
>fight the fine, as well as making in damn near impossible to do so.
>
>I'm also puzzled by the legality of what they do. Some countries only
>give registered keeper information if a *crime* has been committed.
>Civil parking infringements (on private land) are not criminal acts and
>it seems that to get the information, Euro Parking must misrepresent the
>offence to the licensing authorities.
I'd suggest you do a search in google of the newsgroup
uk.rec.motorcycles at the time there was quite a few posts about them.
I also think there was something in the news over the last year about
traffic offences in the EU being looked at as regards being able to
pursue them over the national boundaries - at the moment if your in
another EU country you get off.
Their web site is www.epcplc.com/
I didnt worry about it at the time as the "demand" was sent ordinary
post and therefore I never recieved it ;-) Plus in any case are
parking offences not civil offences?
>Chris <ch...@NOSPAMcervesca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Bit late for a followup but I got a notice from them last year - had
>> driven through the prepaid gate for a toll in Norway - all sorts of
>> threats but none of them backed up, as I havent paid - I think they
>> just chance their arm , buying up non recoverable tickets from the EU.
>> Basically dont pay!
>
>Thanks it wasn't for me, it was for a friend of a friend in Italy. He
>sent them a letter stating that he was refusing to pay and why and got a
>response telling him that they wouldn't take further action. However now
>I and a lawyer are interested in the legality of this company. They
>appear to be telling lies to the license registration authorities in
>Germany and Italy (at least) by telling those authorities that they are
>pursuing criminal offences for which those authorities must hand over
>driver information when they are in fact pursuing civil offences. Or in
>many cases, no offence at all.
>
>Any further information about this company from anyone who has
>encountered them is welcome.
IIRC that's not a defence, as a notice served by post is deemed to be
received 4 days after sending, regardless of proof of receipt.
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