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Mar 22, 2009, 11:42:21 AM3/22/09
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no prisoners

.......................Leslie

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Silk

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Mar 22, 2009, 12:34:03 PM3/22/09
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If I wanted to test an anonymous news server I'd at least take the
opportunity of calling him a stupid cunt.

Conor

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Mar 22, 2009, 2:02:29 PM3/22/09
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"Silk" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> If I wanted to test an anonymous news server I'd at least take the
> opportunity of calling him a stupid cunt.

Indeed.

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Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Silk

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Mar 22, 2009, 3:37:13 PM3/22/09
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Conor wrote:
>
> "Silk" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:gq5p9o$64c$1...@news.motzarella.org...
>
>> If I wanted to test an anonymous news server I'd at least take the
>> opportunity of calling him a stupid cunt.
>
> Indeed.
>

Where do I sign up?

Conor

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Mar 23, 2009, 8:23:01 AM3/23/09
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"Silk" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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The clue is in the OP's headers.

Eeyore

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Mar 23, 2009, 2:44:05 PM3/23/09
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Silk wrote:

Not that anonymous. Send a complaint to ab...@newsdemon.com. Check their
AUP and T&C first.

Usenet is being tidied up by people like me who care from about 6-7 yrs
ago. It has led to a Wikipedia entry being deleted about 'The Meow'
since they no longer exist. Yes, I forced them to retreat. Today, the
errant account holder will be dispensed with at the drop of a hat. It's
too much trouble for the ISP or new provider to handle multiple abuse
reports, their profit is slender enough as it is. Misbehaviour WILL not
be tolerated. See how Dugh lost his BT account on my complaint.

I love this response I got once from Telewest in the UK after a
well-honed abuse report about a pro-abuse newsserver. It said simply
"This user has been terminated'.

Graham


Brimstone

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Mar 23, 2009, 2:47:55 PM3/23/09
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Eeyore wrote:

> Usenet is being tidied up by people like me who care from about 6-7
> yrs ago. It has led to a Wikipedia entry being deleted about 'The
> Meow' since they no longer exist. Yes, I forced them to retreat.
> Today, the errant account holder will be dispensed with at the drop
> of a hat. It's too much trouble for the ISP or new provider to handle
> multiple abuse reports, their profit is slender enough as it is.
> Misbehaviour WILL not be tolerated. See how Dugh lost his BT account
> on my complaint.

Oi!!! There's no reason for you to take all the credit!

> I love this response I got once from Telewest in the UK after a
> well-honed abuse report about a pro-abuse newsserver. It said simply
> "This user has been terminated'.
>

LOL


Eeyore

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Mar 23, 2009, 2:49:29 PM3/23/09
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Conor wrote:

> "Silk" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > Conor wrote:
> >> "Silk" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >>

> >>> If I wanted to test an anonymous news server I'd at least take the
> >>> opportunity of calling him a stupid cunt.
> >>
> >> Indeed.
> >
> > Where do I sign up?
> The clue is in the OP's headers.

It always is. Very few people can mask their posting ID and even if they
use an anonymiser, they can often still be traced. Phone the anonymising
service using a 'WHOIS'.

I suggest 1899.com btw. 1p / minute to the USA. I've had an anonymiser
'knock off' a user after examining their posts. They don't exist for abuse,
merely freespeech. They use discretion.

Graham

Silk

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Mar 23, 2009, 5:38:10 PM3/23/09
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Eeyore wrote:

> Usenet is being tidied up by people like me who care from about 6-7 yrs
> ago. It has led to a Wikipedia entry being deleted about 'The Meow'
> since they no longer exist. Yes, I forced them to retreat. Today, the
> errant account holder will be dispensed with at the drop of a hat. It's
> too much trouble for the ISP or new provider to handle multiple abuse
> reports, their profit is slender enough as it is. Misbehaviour WILL not
> be tolerated. See how Dugh lost his BT account on my complaint.

Hmm. I'm not sure I agree with you at all. Usenet is something you have
to seek out and those who do generally know what they're letting
themselves in for. If you don't like it... well, you know the rest.

My view is, if you resort to getting someone's account terminated, it
means you've lost the argument and are doing the virtual equivalent of
throwing your toys out of your pram. Not good. Not good at all. :-(

Therefore

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Mar 24, 2009, 12:20:32 PM3/24/09
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Top posting again

Have I somehow upset Mrs.. Silk what is wrong .

I have posted on this group several times with no problems

But if you would like flame war I will be glad to assist

........................Leslie

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Silk

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Mar 24, 2009, 12:35:22 PM3/24/09
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Therefore wrote:
> Top posting again

Your status as a moron duly noted.

> Have I somehow upset Mrs.. Silk what is wrong .
>
> I have posted on this group several times with no problems
>
> But if you would like flame war I will be glad to assist
>
> ........................Leslie

Yawn.

bolta...@yahoo.co.uk

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Mar 24, 2009, 12:57:16 PM3/24/09
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On Mar 23, 6:44 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Usenet is being tidied up by people like me who care from about 6-7 yrs

Getting someones account cancelled because you don't happen to like
what they say says a lot more about you than it does about them.

> ago. It has led to a Wikipedia entry being deleted about 'The Meow'
> since they no longer exist. Yes, I forced them to retreat. Today, the

"forced them to retreat"? What are you , a 12 year old wargaming
fanatic?

> reports, their profit is slender enough as it is. Misbehaviour WILL not
> be tolerated.

Says who? Who are you apart from some self style usenet vigilante who
obviously needs to get out more? Also getting the account of some
eccentric old duffer like Doug terminated will have no comeback.
Others might not be so harmless however - there have been documented
cases of people turning up on doorsteps in the past due to discussion
group related incidents so you might want to tread carefully before
you continue with your online ninja turtle routine.

B2003

Silk

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Mar 24, 2009, 1:06:52 PM3/24/09
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Well said. There are plenty of moderated forums out there for people who
don't like their views challenged.

Eeyore

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Mar 24, 2009, 8:43:37 PM3/24/09
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bolta...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote.


>
> > Usenet is being tidied up by people like me who care from about 6-7 yrs
>
> Getting someones account cancelled because you don't happen to like
> what they say says a lot more about you than it does about them.

No, it says a lot about THEIR behaviour. Duhg was cross-posting to
inappropriate groups for one thing and was being deliberately confrontational
for no good reason. I have little doubt that's why he lost his BT account.

I suggest you read up on Usenet charters ( do you know what they are ? ) and
ISPs' AUP and Ts&Cs.

Graham

Eeyore

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Mar 24, 2009, 8:46:34 PM3/24/09
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bolta...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> On Mar 23, 6:44 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ago. It has led to a Wikipedia entry being deleted about 'The Meow'
> > since they no longer exist. Yes, I forced them to retreat. Today, the
>
> "forced them to retreat"? What are you , a 12 year old wargaming
> fanatic?

You obviously never met them. Few MEOW still exist. They were the '12 yr
olds' or at least a normal person would probably infer that from their
behaviour. Since the wiki entry has now been removed I can't even give you a
simple primer but trust me they were a VERY nasty bunch of malignant posters
with infantile behaviour.

Graham

Silk

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Mar 25, 2009, 4:58:21 AM3/25/09
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Eeyore wrote:
>
> bolta...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote.
>>
>>> Usenet is being tidied up by people like me who care from about 6-7 yrs
>> Getting someones account cancelled because you don't happen to like
>> what they say says a lot more about you than it does about them.
>
> No, it says a lot about THEIR behaviour. Duhg was cross-posting to
> inappropriate groups for one thing and was being deliberately confrontational
> for no good reason.

The horror! For fuck's sake grow up.

Silk

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Mar 25, 2009, 4:59:58 AM3/25/09
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Eeyore wrote:

> You obviously never met them. Few MEOW still exist. They were the '12 yr
> olds' or at least a normal person would probably infer that from their
> behaviour. Since the wiki entry has now been removed I can't even give you a
> simple primer but trust me they were a VERY nasty bunch of malignant posters
> with infantile behaviour.

What the fuck are you going on about?

bolta...@yahoo.co.uk

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Mar 25, 2009, 5:55:57 AM3/25/09
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On Mar 25, 12:43 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> No, it says a lot about THEIR behaviour. Duhg was cross-posting to
> inappropriate groups for one thing and was being deliberately confrontational
> for no good reason. I have little doubt that's why he lost his BT account.

Doug may be many things but confrontational isn't one of them. Also
doug tend to stay on topic a lot more than a lot of people on usenet.
After all , what exactly has this thread got to do with driving?

>
> I suggest you read up on Usenet charters ( do you know what they are ? ) and
> ISPs' AUP and Ts&Cs.

I couldn't care less. I've been posting to usenet on and off since 91
and there've always been people like doug and unfortunately always
holier than thou types like you. As Silk said, there are moderated
groups for people who insist on on topic posts the whole time.

B2003


Therefore

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Mar 25, 2009, 6:12:36 AM3/25/09
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Well Mrs Silk
you should know you started it

......................Leslie


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Conor

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Mar 25, 2009, 10:30:23 AM3/25/09
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<bolta...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Also
> doug tend to stay on topic a lot more than a lot of people on usenet.

BWAHAHA.

Hiram

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Mar 26, 2009, 4:22:27 AM3/26/09
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a delivery up the back alley! :)

Silk

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Mar 26, 2009, 5:32:16 AM3/26/09
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Hiram wrote:
> a delivery up the back alley! :)

He may prefer it if they pulled up at the front.

Bod

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Mar 26, 2009, 5:36:08 AM3/26/09
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Unless it's actually easier to pull out of the rear passage.

Bod

Hiram

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Mar 27, 2009, 3:51:01 PM3/27/09
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...a trip to the south and finds the locals really friendly, and not as
soft as he thought.

Steve Firth

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Mar 27, 2009, 4:22:24 PM3/27/09
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Hiram <Hi...@fake.com> wrote:

> ...a trip to the south and finds the locals really friendly, and not as
> soft as he thought.

And discovers that the beer is better than that Northern piss-water.

Conor

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Mar 28, 2009, 10:01:08 AM3/28/09
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In article <1ix978c.1u014vz1qdne3bN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
says...
Can't drink beer. Get a hangover the following morning even if I've
just had a couple of mouthfuls. Scrumpy Jack is more my thing.

Alan Smith

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Mar 28, 2009, 5:15:28 PM3/28/09
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I thought this was a driving forum & not stand up comedy, the first one
liner was bad enough but the second was a cracker

Alan...

Conor

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Mar 29, 2009, 4:21:17 PM3/29/09
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In article <gqm3va$glg$1...@aioe.org>, Alan Smith says...
Talking of Southerners...

Had the annual beginning of season Scotch Corner meet for classic and
modified fords - 220 this year.

The organiser runs a capri forum so some of us met up and went for a
run beforehand with the Classic Ford photographer in tow.

A couple of guys came up from Essex and all they did was whinge about
how cold it was as we were walking around in T shirts.

Silk

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Mar 30, 2009, 1:00:33 PM3/30/09
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Conor wrote:

> A couple of guys came up from Essex and all they did was whinge about
> how cold it was as we were walking around in T shirts.

With Northerners it'a a case of no sense, no feeling.

Bod

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Mar 30, 2009, 1:04:58 PM3/30/09
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LOL.

Bod

Eeyore

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Mar 31, 2009, 2:49:04 PM3/31/09
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bolta...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No, it says a lot about THEIR behaviour. Duhg was cross-posting to
> > inappropriate groups for one thing and was being deliberately confrontational
> > for no good reason. I have little doubt that's why he lost his BT account.
>
> Doug may be many things but confrontational isn't one of them. Also
> doug tend to stay on topic a lot more than a lot of people on usenet.
> After all , what exactly has this thread got to do with driving?
>
> >
> > I suggest you read up on Usenet charters ( do you know what they are ? ) and
> > ISPs' AUP and Ts&Cs.
>
> I couldn't care less. I've been posting to usenet on and off since 91
> and there've always been people like doug and unfortunately always
> holier than thou types like you.

Actually I am normally very tolerant.


> As Silk said, there are moderated
> groups for people who insist on on topic posts the whole time.

I have nothing against the ocassional off-topic post ( preferably prefixed OT : )
aimed at getting a response from the regulars in the group to share an idea.

Doug's major mistake was inappropriate cross-posting. He seems to have stopped that
now I'm pleased to say.

Graham

Eeyore

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Mar 31, 2009, 2:52:10 PM3/31/09
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Silk wrote:

It's a shame the wiki article has been removed since it explained their actions
well. A typical MEOW tactic was to 'own' a newsgroup by deliberately flooding it (
so giving a negative signal to noise ratio ) and sending 'reply-to' messages from
other groups to them. The aim being to drive away the original regular posters so
they could declare a 'win'.

Does that help ?

Graham


Jon North

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Apr 1, 2009, 2:49:34 PM4/1/09
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Eeyore wrote:
> Usenet is being tidied up by people like me who care from about 6-7 yrs
> ago. It has led to a Wikipedia entry being deleted about 'The Meow'
> since they no longer exist. Yes, I forced them to retreat. Today, the

Why don't you get this page deleted as well?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo
After all, they don't exist anymore.
While you're about it, why not go an a personal crusade to take down
every page that mentions "gopher"?

Cleaning up usenet is one thing.
Destroying history based on what *you* don't like is frankly scary.
So I'm going to have to call you one motherfuckingly clueless cunt.

Silk

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Apr 1, 2009, 5:11:47 PM4/1/09
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Eeyore wrote:

> It's a shame the wiki article has been removed since it explained their actions
> well. A typical MEOW tactic was to 'own' a newsgroup by deliberately flooding it (
> so giving a negative signal to noise ratio ) and sending 'reply-to' messages from
> other groups to them. The aim being to drive away the original regular posters so
> they could declare a 'win'.
>
> Does that help ?

Why is it that in fifteen years of posting to Usenet, I see MEOW and
don't think of anything other than a loud cat?

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