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spencer bullen

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Apr 4, 2005, 9:06:43 AM4/4/05
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Greetings,

I think that is the company's name for tyre protection, normally found in
the form of a kevlar belt to cut down on punctures. Some tyres, like the
Specialized Armadillos I ride on have this belt not only where the tyre
meets the road, but from bead to bead. I've got to say I've had only one
puncture on Armadillos, and have found they last well.

T.T.F.N.

SPENNY
"sh" <n...@hovington.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi there,
>
> Can anyone explain what a skinwall on a tyre is? I'm thinking of
> buying a pair of Schwalbe City Jet tyres and they come without or
> without skinwall?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve.


Pete Biggs

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Apr 4, 2005, 9:24:46 AM4/4/05
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sh wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Can anyone explain what a skinwall on a tyre is? I'm thinking of
> buying a pair of Schwalbe City Jet tyres and they come without or
> without skinwall?

With skinwall.

"A tire in which the cord of the sidewalls is only covered with a very
thin coat of rubber, if any. This makes the tire more flexible, for lower
rolling resistance, but the sidewalls are more easily damaged than those
of blackwalls or gumwalls"
- http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html - Skinwall

Skinwalls also reduce weight. They're usually durable enough. My
bother's had no problem with his City Jets. Specialized Nimbus EX has
similar sidewalls. I think the Specialized Armadillo has tougher
sidewalls if you want them.

~PB


Pete Biggs

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Apr 4, 2005, 9:39:07 AM4/4/05
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spencer bullen wrote:
> I think that is the company's name for tyre protection, normally
> found in the form of a kevlar belt to cut down on punctures.

It's not. You're thinking of extra material at the *sidewalls*.

~PB


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Zog The Undeniable

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Apr 4, 2005, 11:58:23 AM4/4/05
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sh wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Can anyone explain what a skinwall on a tyre is? I'm thinking of
> buying a pair of Schwalbe City Jet tyres and they come without or
> without skinwall?

In this case Schwalbe mean amber-walled rather than black-walled. I
find City Jets terrifying on wet roads and a bit heavy, although they
roll well and are fine in the dry; buy Vredestein S-Licks instead.

Pete Biggs

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Apr 4, 2005, 12:35:08 PM4/4/05
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Zog The Undeniable wrote:

> In this case Schwalbe mean amber-walled rather than black-walled.

I don't think so. The all-black version of City Jet (that I bought from
Wiggle, despite the description saying amber) also has skinwalls.

> I find City Jets terrifying on wet roads and a bit heavy, although they
> roll well and are fine in the dry; buy Vredestein S-Licks instead.

Or just take it really easy in the wet, which you should do anyway with
any tyre.

~PB


Zog The Undeniable

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Apr 4, 2005, 1:35:54 PM4/4/05
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Pete Biggs wrote:

> Zog The Undeniable wrote:
>
>
>>In this case Schwalbe mean amber-walled rather than black-walled.
>
> I don't think so. The all-black version of City Jet (that I bought from
> Wiggle, despite the description saying amber) also has skinwalls.

I have the amber wall version. Are there three types?

Pete Biggs

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Apr 4, 2005, 1:44:20 PM4/4/05
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Zog The Undeniable wrote:

I think there are just two: black, amber -- both skinwall.

~PB


Zog The Undeniable

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Apr 4, 2005, 2:10:47 PM4/4/05
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Pete Biggs wrote:

Which is what I said originally, isn't it - Schwalbe sell them as
skinwall and non-skinwall, but they actually mean amber and black? The
amber isn't what I'd call a real skinwall (like on a Conti GP) where you
can see all the threads, anyway.

Pete Biggs

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Apr 4, 2005, 4:07:05 PM4/4/05
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Zog The Undeniable wrote:
>>> I have the amber wall version. Are there three types?
>>
>> I think there are just two: black, amber -- both skinwall.
>
> Which is what I said originally, isn't it - Schwalbe sell them as
> skinwall and non-skinwall, but they actually mean amber and black?

Sorry, after looking at Wiggle again, I see what you mean. They used to
just sell one version. They probably call it "skinwall" because skinwalls
are traditionally amber.

> The amber isn't what I'd call a real skinwall (like on a Conti GP)
> where you can see all the threads, anyway.

It's still pretty skinny (as far as I can remember) -- although maybe I'm
thinking more about the EX now.

I'll get me gilet ;-)

~PB


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