On 04/10/2022 10:24, JNugent wrote:
> On 03/10/2022 08:34 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>> On 30/09/2022 00:50, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 29/09/2022 08:58 am, TMS320 wrote:
>>>> On 28/09/2022 14:19, JNugent wrote:
>>>> When my children were learning to drive and I took them out, I
>>>> was only concerned about exposure to the real world; I left it
>>>> to their instructor to coach them for the test.
>>>>> It's right up there with "I drive better after a few pints
>>>>> and couple of chasers".
>> Don't be silly.
> People used to make both claims:
> (a) that you only learn to drive after passing a test, and
> (b) they drove (or motor-cycled) better after a few drinks (enough to
> mean a breath-test fail).
> Both claims were and are rubbish. You, astoundingly, still make the
> first one (see above).
If you really believe a) is "rubbish", you should tell your insurance
company they are wrong and you are not paying enough.
> Perhaps you also believe that you drive better after half-a-dozen
I have never believed this. Besides, whether b) is true or false has no
connection whatsoever on whether a) is true or false. A nonsensical
>>>>> Mind you, any test candidate who drove or rode (a motorcycle)
>>>>> as aggressively and as recklessly as that fairy-cyclist
>>>>> *would* fail. Not least because of failing to keep a safe
>>>>> distance from the vehicle in front.
>>>>> Go on... try to deny that...
>>>> But it wasn't a test situation...
>>> What does that mean?
>> That he was under no duty to fairy-cycle with care and
>> How is "it wasn't a test" is so difficult to understand? Are you
>> still trying to claim that after passing the test, drivers
>> habitually drive as though taking a test?
> The point is that such behaviour would not have been acceptable in a
> driving test, irrespective of whether a test was taking place. IOW,
> it was unacceptable.
OK. The rider would not have passed a test. Had he been taking a test.
The original claim made was that passing a test "could" have prevented
a situation, such as this, from occuring at a time after passing the test.
Some people, still alive, have never taken a UK driving test but somehow
muddled into competence. Essentially, anybody that believes a test,
whether it is driving or a wished for cycling test, would have any
bearing on behaviour or reaction 1, 10... 50 years later is living in
>> Or did you not know that breaking a speed limit is against the
Oh, it has every relevance in support of the statement that drivers do
not drive after a test as though they were taking a test. Speeding is
just one of many habits that can be highlighted: candidates would not
even be allowed to start a test if they turned up drunk.
>> Let those that are without sin cast the first stone.
Do you claim you have never broken a speed limit? You do not.
Then stop throwing stones.