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Cowardly driver who killed 'much-loved' son in Hull hit and run found hiding from police in girlfriend's bathroom
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swldx...@gmail.com
Sep 17, 2021, 2:05:22 PM9/17/21
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A bit more on the 10 year jailed driver from his local rag.
A callous and cowardly driver who killed a much-loved cyclist and left him slumped in the road after heartlessly speeding away from the scene was later found hiding in his girlfriend's bathroom.
Ben George, 30, knocked the cyclist down and sent him flying onto the windscreen during an "appalling" episode of dangerous driving.
The family of the victim have been left "devastated" at his tragic death and it has brought "lifelong grief and misery" to them.
The driver had a woman and two young children with him as passengers and he had a history of violence and two previous offences of dangerous driving, a court heard.
George, of Higham Close, Hull, admitted causing the death of Jeff Davis by dangerous driving and by having no insurance and licence on January 29 last year.
Matthew Bean, prosecuting, told Hull Crown Court that Mr Davis, 56, was riding a bicycle when he was hit by the blue Audi A4 driven by George.
The accident (sic) happened at the junction of National Avenue and County Road North, Hull, after 9pm.
The cyclist was thrown onto the Audi's windscreen and he was carried about 60 metres down the road before falling off.
George seemed to be swerving around as though he was trying to throw the cyclist off.
Witnesses treated Mr Davis at the scene and he was taken by ambulance to Hull Royal Infirmary but was declared dead at 9.53pm from head injuries.
"The defendant made no attempt to stop," said Mr Bean.
George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident.
He later drove through more red traffic lights and at speed after the incident. He narrowly avoided hitting an oncoming vehicle.
The vehicle had also been driven at speed before the accident.
He was not insured to drive the Audi at the time and the only person insured to do so was a woman who had begun a relationship with him.
George "dumped" the car just off Beverley Road, near the home of his girlfriend, who was in the vehicle with him, along with her two young children, aged nine and four.
Police found the Audi and traced George, who was found hiding in a bathroom at her room. He answered police questions with "No comment."
Lily Nightingale, the 79-year-old mother of Mr Davis, said in a statement that her son was one of three children.
"It was the last thing I could ever imagine to bury one of my children."
A few years earlier, Mr Davis had been diagnosed with cancer and lived with her while he coalesced for a while.
She could have understood him dying from cancer but not for him to be cycling home from work and to be killed.
She could not understand why anyone would drive off after the accident because, even if someone hit an animal, they would stop and get out.
"That's unforgivable," she said.
Mr Davis was a best friend to his brother, who was "devastated" by the death.
"I don't think he will ever get over it that someone has taken his brother and friend away," she said.
His sister was also devastated.
"He loved nice things and looked good all the time," she said.
"He loved going on holiday and socialising with his family and friends."
Mr Davis had hoped to marry his girlfriend.
"Jeff was cruelly taken from us far too early," said his mother.
"What I can't get over is the way he was taken from us so young.
"Life will never be the same for not just me but everyone who knew him. He was such a big character.
"He was someone who lit up the room when he came in. Sometimes I imagine him to walk through the door.
"When he was taken, a piece of me was taken too. It was so avoidable. It was just a split second."
She said of George: "I hope he realises what he has done to me and my family. Even worse, leaving him on the road and driving off like a coward."
George had convictions for dangerous driving in 2004 and 2010 and for drink-driving as well as for robbery in 2005.
He also had convictions for violence, including wounding, assault causing actual bodily harm, possessing an offensive weapon and violent disorder.
Judge John Thackray QC told George: "It was a collision waiting to happen because, prior to the collision, you had been driving erratically in built-up residential areas and overtook other vehicles at excessive speed.
"You ended a life and you brought lifelong grief and misery to his family and friends.
"You should not have been behind the wheel. You raced away from the scene without a moment's thought for your victim.
"Only self-preservation was in your mind."
Mr Davis was carried 60 metres down the road and other lives were put at risk by his "most appalling" driving.
George's actions had "terrible effects" and had "devastated" the victim's family.
"You have ruined their family," said Judge Thackray.
"Your actions on that day are against a background of significant previous convictions.
"No sentence I can impose can bring Mr Davis back. No sentence I can impose can undo what you have done."
It was a "deliberate decision or a flagrant disregard for the rules of the road" and for the great danger caused to others.
George originally denied being the driver and pleaded not guilty at an earlier hearing.
He was jailed for nine-and-a-half years and was branded a "dangerous" offender who posed a risk to the public.
"You do represent a high risk of serious harm to the public," said Judge Thackray.
Dale Brook, mitigating, said there were episodes of poor driving and George and the death of Mr Davis was a "terrible loss" to his family.
"He has a poor record, a terrible record," said Mr Brook.
"He understands there is no excuse. He drove appallingly. Afterwards, he panicked and drove off and he knows that is inexcusable.
"He is genuinely sorry for what happened that night.
"He wishes he could go back and relive that night and do things very, very differently. He is trying to turn his life around."
George will be on extended licence of three years after his release from prison.
He was banned from driving for 12-and-a-half years and will have to pass an extended retest.
Mr Davis was a popular figure in Hull and was described as a "nice, happy and cheerful" man who regularly visited Hull Soul Club in Walton Street.
He had recently been "full of energy" and he "loved to dance".
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-driver-who-killed-much-5931837
A callous and cowardly driver who killed a much-loved cyclist and left him slumped in the road after heartlessly speeding away from the scene was later found hiding in his girlfriend's bathroom.
Ben George, 30, knocked the cyclist down and sent him flying onto the windscreen during an "appalling" episode of dangerous driving.
The family of the victim have been left "devastated" at his tragic death and it has brought "lifelong grief and misery" to them.
The driver had a woman and two young children with him as passengers and he had a history of violence and two previous offences of dangerous driving, a court heard.
George, of Higham Close, Hull, admitted causing the death of Jeff Davis by dangerous driving and by having no insurance and licence on January 29 last year.
Matthew Bean, prosecuting, told Hull Crown Court that Mr Davis, 56, was riding a bicycle when he was hit by the blue Audi A4 driven by George.
The accident (sic) happened at the junction of National Avenue and County Road North, Hull, after 9pm.
The cyclist was thrown onto the Audi's windscreen and he was carried about 60 metres down the road before falling off.
George seemed to be swerving around as though he was trying to throw the cyclist off.
Witnesses treated Mr Davis at the scene and he was taken by ambulance to Hull Royal Infirmary but was declared dead at 9.53pm from head injuries.
"The defendant made no attempt to stop," said Mr Bean.
George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident.
He later drove through more red traffic lights and at speed after the incident. He narrowly avoided hitting an oncoming vehicle.
The vehicle had also been driven at speed before the accident.
He was not insured to drive the Audi at the time and the only person insured to do so was a woman who had begun a relationship with him.
George "dumped" the car just off Beverley Road, near the home of his girlfriend, who was in the vehicle with him, along with her two young children, aged nine and four.
Police found the Audi and traced George, who was found hiding in a bathroom at her room. He answered police questions with "No comment."
Lily Nightingale, the 79-year-old mother of Mr Davis, said in a statement that her son was one of three children.
"It was the last thing I could ever imagine to bury one of my children."
A few years earlier, Mr Davis had been diagnosed with cancer and lived with her while he coalesced for a while.
She could have understood him dying from cancer but not for him to be cycling home from work and to be killed.
She could not understand why anyone would drive off after the accident because, even if someone hit an animal, they would stop and get out.
"That's unforgivable," she said.
Mr Davis was a best friend to his brother, who was "devastated" by the death.
"I don't think he will ever get over it that someone has taken his brother and friend away," she said.
His sister was also devastated.
"He loved nice things and looked good all the time," she said.
"He loved going on holiday and socialising with his family and friends."
Mr Davis had hoped to marry his girlfriend.
"Jeff was cruelly taken from us far too early," said his mother.
"What I can't get over is the way he was taken from us so young.
"Life will never be the same for not just me but everyone who knew him. He was such a big character.
"He was someone who lit up the room when he came in. Sometimes I imagine him to walk through the door.
"When he was taken, a piece of me was taken too. It was so avoidable. It was just a split second."
She said of George: "I hope he realises what he has done to me and my family. Even worse, leaving him on the road and driving off like a coward."
George had convictions for dangerous driving in 2004 and 2010 and for drink-driving as well as for robbery in 2005.
He also had convictions for violence, including wounding, assault causing actual bodily harm, possessing an offensive weapon and violent disorder.
Judge John Thackray QC told George: "It was a collision waiting to happen because, prior to the collision, you had been driving erratically in built-up residential areas and overtook other vehicles at excessive speed.
"You ended a life and you brought lifelong grief and misery to his family and friends.
"You should not have been behind the wheel. You raced away from the scene without a moment's thought for your victim.
"Only self-preservation was in your mind."
Mr Davis was carried 60 metres down the road and other lives were put at risk by his "most appalling" driving.
George's actions had "terrible effects" and had "devastated" the victim's family.
"You have ruined their family," said Judge Thackray.
"Your actions on that day are against a background of significant previous convictions.
"No sentence I can impose can bring Mr Davis back. No sentence I can impose can undo what you have done."
It was a "deliberate decision or a flagrant disregard for the rules of the road" and for the great danger caused to others.
George originally denied being the driver and pleaded not guilty at an earlier hearing.
He was jailed for nine-and-a-half years and was branded a "dangerous" offender who posed a risk to the public.
"You do represent a high risk of serious harm to the public," said Judge Thackray.
Dale Brook, mitigating, said there were episodes of poor driving and George and the death of Mr Davis was a "terrible loss" to his family.
"He has a poor record, a terrible record," said Mr Brook.
"He understands there is no excuse. He drove appallingly. Afterwards, he panicked and drove off and he knows that is inexcusable.
"He is genuinely sorry for what happened that night.
"He wishes he could go back and relive that night and do things very, very differently. He is trying to turn his life around."
George will be on extended licence of three years after his release from prison.
He was banned from driving for 12-and-a-half years and will have to pass an extended retest.
Mr Davis was a popular figure in Hull and was described as a "nice, happy and cheerful" man who regularly visited Hull Soul Club in Walton Street.
He had recently been "full of energy" and he "loved to dance".
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-driver-who-killed-much-5931837
JNugent
Sep 17, 2021, 7:17:57 PM9/17/21
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On 17/09/2021 07:05 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> A bit more on the 10 year jailed fairy-cyclist from his local rag.
qualified to be a driver, but no qualifications are needed in order to
be a fairy-cyclist.
> A bit more on the 10 year jailed fairy-cyclist from his local rag.
>
>
> A callous and cowardly driver who killed a much-loved cyclist and left him slumped in the road after heartlessly speeding away from the scene was later found hiding in his girlfriend's bathroom.
>
> Ben George, 30, knocked the cyclist down and sent him flying onto the windscreen during an "appalling" episode of dangerous driving.
>
> The family of the victim have been left "devastated" at his tragic death and it has brought "lifelong grief and misery" to them.
>
> The driver had a woman and two young children with him as passengers and he had a history of violence and two previous offences of dangerous driving, a court heard.
>
> George, of Higham Close, Hull, admitted causing the death of Jeff Davis by dangerous driving and by having no insurance and *[no] licence* on January 29 last year.
>
> A callous and cowardly driver who killed a much-loved cyclist and left him slumped in the road after heartlessly speeding away from the scene was later found hiding in his girlfriend's bathroom.
>
> Ben George, 30, knocked the cyclist down and sent him flying onto the windscreen during an "appalling" episode of dangerous driving.
>
> The family of the victim have been left "devastated" at his tragic death and it has brought "lifelong grief and misery" to them.
>
> The driver had a woman and two young children with him as passengers and he had a history of violence and two previous offences of dangerous driving, a court heard.
>
>
> Matthew Bean, prosecuting, told Hull Crown Court that Mr Davis, 56, was riding a bicycle when he was hit by the blue Audi A4 driven by George.
>
> The accident (sic) happened at the junction of National Avenue and County Road North, Hull, after 9pm.
>
> The cyclist was thrown onto the Audi's windscreen and he was carried about 60 metres down the road before falling off.
>
> George seemed to be swerving around as though he was trying to throw the cyclist off.
>
> Witnesses treated Mr Davis at the scene and he was taken by ambulance to Hull Royal Infirmary but was declared dead at 9.53pm from head injuries.
>
> "The defendant made no attempt to stop," said Mr Bean.
>
> George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident.
>
> He later drove through more red traffic lights and at speed after the incident. He narrowly avoided hitting an oncoming vehicle.
>
> The vehicle had also been driven at speed before the accident.
>
> He was not insured to drive the Audi at the time [because he was, after all, only a fairy-cyclist] and the only person insured to do so was a woman who had begun a relationship with him.
> Matthew Bean, prosecuting, told Hull Crown Court that Mr Davis, 56, was riding a bicycle when he was hit by the blue Audi A4 driven by George.
>
> The accident (sic) happened at the junction of National Avenue and County Road North, Hull, after 9pm.
>
> The cyclist was thrown onto the Audi's windscreen and he was carried about 60 metres down the road before falling off.
>
> George seemed to be swerving around as though he was trying to throw the cyclist off.
>
> Witnesses treated Mr Davis at the scene and he was taken by ambulance to Hull Royal Infirmary but was declared dead at 9.53pm from head injuries.
>
> "The defendant made no attempt to stop," said Mr Bean.
>
> George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident.
>
> He later drove through more red traffic lights and at speed after the incident. He narrowly avoided hitting an oncoming vehicle.
>
> The vehicle had also been driven at speed before the accident.
>
>
> George "dumped" the car just off Beverley Road, near the home of his girlfriend, who was in the vehicle with him, along with her two young children, aged nine and four.
>
> Police found the Audi and traced George, who was found hiding in a bathroom at her room. He answered police questions with "No comment."
>
> Lily Nightingale, the 79-year-old mother of Mr Davis, said in a statement that her son was one of three children.
>
> "It was the last thing I could ever imagine to bury one of my children."
>
> A few years earlier, Mr Davis had been diagnosed with cancer and lived with her while he coalesced for a while.
>
> She could have understood him dying from cancer but not for him to be cycling home from work and to be killed.
>
> She could not understand why anyone would drive off after the accident because, even if someone hit an animal, they would stop and get out.
>
> "That's unforgivable," she said.
>
> Mr Davis was a best friend to his brother, who was "devastated" by the death.
>
> "I don't think he will ever get over it that someone has taken his brother and friend away," she said.
>
> His sister was also devastated.
>
> "He loved nice things and looked good all the time," she said.
>
> "He loved going on holiday and socialising with his family and friends."
>
> Mr Davis had hoped to marry his girlfriend.
>
> "Jeff was cruelly taken from us far too early," said his mother.
>
> "What I can't get over is the way he was taken from us so young.
>
> "Life will never be the same for not just me but everyone who knew him. He was such a big character.
>
> "He was someone who lit up the room when he came in. Sometimes I imagine him to walk through the door.
>
> "When he was taken, a piece of me was taken too. It was so avoidable. It was just a split second."
>
> She said of George: "I hope he realises what he has done to me and my family. Even worse, leaving him on the road and driving off like a coward."
>
> George had convictions for dangerous driving in 2004 and 2010 and for drink-driving as well as for robbery in 2005 [and so was only a fairy-cyclist].
> George "dumped" the car just off Beverley Road, near the home of his girlfriend, who was in the vehicle with him, along with her two young children, aged nine and four.
>
> Police found the Audi and traced George, who was found hiding in a bathroom at her room. He answered police questions with "No comment."
>
> Lily Nightingale, the 79-year-old mother of Mr Davis, said in a statement that her son was one of three children.
>
> "It was the last thing I could ever imagine to bury one of my children."
>
> A few years earlier, Mr Davis had been diagnosed with cancer and lived with her while he coalesced for a while.
>
> She could have understood him dying from cancer but not for him to be cycling home from work and to be killed.
>
> She could not understand why anyone would drive off after the accident because, even if someone hit an animal, they would stop and get out.
>
> "That's unforgivable," she said.
>
> Mr Davis was a best friend to his brother, who was "devastated" by the death.
>
> "I don't think he will ever get over it that someone has taken his brother and friend away," she said.
>
> His sister was also devastated.
>
> "He loved nice things and looked good all the time," she said.
>
> "He loved going on holiday and socialising with his family and friends."
>
> Mr Davis had hoped to marry his girlfriend.
>
> "Jeff was cruelly taken from us far too early," said his mother.
>
> "What I can't get over is the way he was taken from us so young.
>
> "Life will never be the same for not just me but everyone who knew him. He was such a big character.
>
> "He was someone who lit up the room when he came in. Sometimes I imagine him to walk through the door.
>
> "When he was taken, a piece of me was taken too. It was so avoidable. It was just a split second."
>
> She said of George: "I hope he realises what he has done to me and my family. Even worse, leaving him on the road and driving off like a coward."
>
>
> He also had convictions for violence, including wounding, assault causing actual bodily harm, possessing an offensive weapon and violent disorder.
>
> Judge John Thackray QC told George: "It was a collision waiting to happen because, prior to the collision, you had been driving erratically in built-up residential areas and overtook other vehicles at excessive speed.
> "You ended a life and you brought lifelong grief and misery to his family and friends.
>
> "You should not have been behind the wheel. You raced away from the scene without a moment's thought for your victim.
>
> "Only self-preservation was in your mind."
>
> Mr Davis was carried 60 metres down the road and other lives were put at risk by his "most appalling" driving.
>
> George's actions had "terrible effects" and had "devastated" the victim's family.
>
> "You have ruined their family," said Judge Thackray.
>
> "Your actions on that day are against a background of significant previous convictions.
>
> "No sentence I can impose can bring Mr Davis back. No sentence I can impose can undo what you have done."
>
> It was a "deliberate decision or a flagrant disregard for the rules of the road" and for the great danger caused to others.
>
> George originally denied being the driver and pleaded not guilty at an earlier hearing.
>
> He was jailed for nine-and-a-half years and was branded a "dangerous" offender who posed a risk to the public.
>
> "You do represent a high risk of serious harm to the public," said Judge Thackray.
>
> Dale Brook, mitigating, said there were episodes of poor driving and George and the death of Mr Davis was a "terrible loss" to his family.
>
> "He has a poor record, a terrible record," said Mr Brook.
>
> "He understands there is no excuse. He drove appallingly. Afterwards, he panicked and drove off and he knows that is inexcusable.
>
> "He is genuinely sorry for what happened that night.
>
> "He wishes he could go back and relive that night and do things very, very differently. He is trying to turn his life around."
> George will be on extended licence of three years after his release from prison.
>
> He was banned from driving for 12-and-a-half years and will have to pass an extended retest.
>
> Mr Davis was a popular figure in Hull and was described as a "nice, happy and cheerful" man who regularly visited Hull Soul Club in Walton Street.
>
> He had recently been "full of energy" and he "loved to dance".
>
> https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-driver-who-killed-much-5931837
Let's be clear: George is and was just another fairy-cyclist. He was not
> He also had convictions for violence, including wounding, assault causing actual bodily harm, possessing an offensive weapon and violent disorder.
>
> Judge John Thackray QC told George: "It was a collision waiting to happen because, prior to the collision, you had been driving erratically in built-up residential areas and overtook other vehicles at excessive speed.
> "You ended a life and you brought lifelong grief and misery to his family and friends.
>
> "You should not have been behind the wheel. You raced away from the scene without a moment's thought for your victim.
>
> "Only self-preservation was in your mind."
>
> Mr Davis was carried 60 metres down the road and other lives were put at risk by his "most appalling" driving.
>
> George's actions had "terrible effects" and had "devastated" the victim's family.
>
> "You have ruined their family," said Judge Thackray.
>
> "Your actions on that day are against a background of significant previous convictions.
>
> "No sentence I can impose can bring Mr Davis back. No sentence I can impose can undo what you have done."
>
> It was a "deliberate decision or a flagrant disregard for the rules of the road" and for the great danger caused to others.
>
> George originally denied being the driver and pleaded not guilty at an earlier hearing.
>
> He was jailed for nine-and-a-half years and was branded a "dangerous" offender who posed a risk to the public.
>
> "You do represent a high risk of serious harm to the public," said Judge Thackray.
>
> Dale Brook, mitigating, said there were episodes of poor driving and George and the death of Mr Davis was a "terrible loss" to his family.
>
> "He has a poor record, a terrible record," said Mr Brook.
>
> "He understands there is no excuse. He drove appallingly. Afterwards, he panicked and drove off and he knows that is inexcusable.
>
> "He is genuinely sorry for what happened that night.
>
> "He wishes he could go back and relive that night and do things very, very differently. He is trying to turn his life around."
> George will be on extended licence of three years after his release from prison.
>
> He was banned from driving for 12-and-a-half years and will have to pass an extended retest.
>
> Mr Davis was a popular figure in Hull and was described as a "nice, happy and cheerful" man who regularly visited Hull Soul Club in Walton Street.
>
> He had recently been "full of energy" and he "loved to dance".
>
> https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-driver-who-killed-much-5931837
qualified to be a driver, but no qualifications are needed in order to
be a fairy-cyclist.
TMS320
Sep 18, 2021, 4:11:01 AM9/18/21
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TMS320
Sep 18, 2021, 4:13:19 AM9/18/21
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On 17/09/2021 19:05, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> A bit more on the 10 year jailed driver from his local rag.
>
>
>
>
> George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident.
>
> He later drove through more red traffic lights and at speed after the
> incident. He narrowly avoided hitting an oncoming vehicle.
The court must be confused. Obviously the cyclist was going through a
>
> He later drove through more red traffic lights and at speed after the
> incident. He narrowly avoided hitting an oncoming vehicle.
red light and the poor, innocent motorist ran into him.
swldx...@gmail.com
Sep 18, 2021, 5:59:46 AM9/18/21
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Mike Collins
Sep 18, 2021, 6:28:19 AM9/18/21
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On Saturday, 18 September 2021 at 00:17:57 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> fairy-cyclist.
And immediately lost the argument.
> fairy-cyclist.
And immediately lost the argument.
JNugent
Sep 18, 2021, 10:00:00 AM9/18/21
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>> A bit more on the 10 year jailed xxdriverxx CYCLIST from his local rag.
[ ... ]
>> George, of Higham Close, Hull, admitted causing the death of Jeff
>> Davis by dangerous driving and by having *no* *insurance* and *licence* on
>> January 29 last year.
[ .. ]
>> https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-driver-who-killed-much-5931837
The offender was not a driver (how could he be, with no driving licence?).
But he was fully-qualified to ride a fairy-cycle.
[ ... ]
>> George, of Higham Close, Hull, admitted causing the death of Jeff
>> January 29 last year.
[ .. ]
>> https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-driver-who-killed-much-5931837
The offender was not a driver (how could he be, with no driving licence?).
But he was fully-qualified to ride a fairy-cycle.
JNugent
Sep 18, 2021, 10:01:51 AM9/18/21
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>> A bit more on the 10 year jailed xxdriverxx cyclist from his local rag.
No driving licence, no insurance. Not a driver.
Eminently qualified to ride a fairy-cycle.
>>
>>
>> George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident.
>>
>> He later drove through more red traffic lights and at speed after the
>> incident. He narrowly avoided hitting an oncoming vehicle.
>
> The court must be confused. Obviously the cyclist was going through a
> red light and the poor, innocent xxmotoristxx cyclist ran into him.
>>
>> George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident.
>>
>> He later drove through more red traffic lights and at speed after the
>> incident. He narrowly avoided hitting an oncoming vehicle.
>
> The court must be confused. Obviously the cyclist was going through a
No driving licence, no insurance. Not a driver.
Eminently qualified to ride a fairy-cycle.
JNugent
Sep 18, 2021, 10:02:25 AM9/18/21
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Mr Pounder Esquire
Sep 18, 2021, 12:01:30 PM9/18/21
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I would say that the word "qualified" does not apply to the riders of silly
fairy bicycles.
I would suggest the term "only fit to ride a silly fairy bicycle."
swldx...@gmail.com
Sep 18, 2021, 12:11:26 PM9/18/21
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On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 7:05:22 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> A bit more on the 10 year jailed driver from his local rag.
>
>
> A callous and cowardly driver who killed a much-loved cyclist and left him slumped in the road after heartlessly speeding away from the scene was later found hiding in his girlfriend's bathroom.
>
> https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-driver-who-killed-much-5931837
> A bit more on the 10 year jailed driver from his local rag.
>
>
> A callous and cowardly driver who killed a much-loved cyclist and left him slumped in the road after heartlessly speeding away from the scene was later found hiding in his girlfriend's bathroom.
>
I wonder why there are no comments on the "callous and cowardly driver" in Hull Daily Mail when many comments are allowed on road.cc?
cyclistformerly... | 55 posts | 2 hours ago
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Reading what happened makes the 9.5 years seem far too lenient. After he struck his victim he tried to shake him off the bonnet, then after driving off he left his wife and kids in the car to hide in his girfriends bedroom. He'd been running red lights at excessive speed, serving and had just missed crashing into other cars.
He also had previous form for violence.
This should have been charged differently and the POS scum put away for a long, long time and a life ban from driving.
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pedalingparamedic | 95 posts | 3 hours ago
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Headline would be better if it read 'Hit-and-run driver who killed cyclist jailed for less than 10 years'
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chrisonatrike | 51 posts | 19 hours ago
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The sentance of course won't bring anyone back but the other sad thing is that this is "news" because it's actually a reasonable fraction of the maximum. I can recall plenty others where drink, drugs, disqualification and fleeing the scene don't seem to have attracted anything like. What were the rules on being able to query a sentence as "too lenient" again, just for the next time?
Also lifetime bans coupled with "and if you're caught again it's direct to prison as an administrative matter". Personally I could bear giving people a second chance but a third or fourth? It's not like bikes, buses, trains and taxis don't exist.
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Rapha Nadal | 1392 posts | 20 hours ago
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Does the 12 year driving ban begin from the sentencing date or from when he gets released from prison?
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HoarseMann replied to Rapha Nadal | 1070 posts | 20 hours ago
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Driving bans are now extended to take into account the likely time spent behind bars (half the sentence). So it's a 12.5 year ban from sentencing date. Not that it would stop him, he was driving without a licence.
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/magistrates-co... (link is external)
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Captain Badger | 2733 posts | 22 hours ago
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Thoughts and deep condolences with the family and friends of Jeffrey Davis
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hirsute | 4261 posts | 23 hours ago
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"He was not insured to drive the Audi at the time and the only person insured to do so was a woman who had begun a relationship with him.
"George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident."
"The vehicle had also been driven at speed before the accident."
Why didn't she tell him to stop speeding way before the accident ?
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Captain Badger replied to hirsute | 2733 posts | 22 hours ago
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hirsute wrote:
"He was not insured to drive the Audi at the time and the only person insured to do so was a woman who had begun a relationship with him.
"George had driven through a red traffic light before the accident."
"The vehicle had also been driven at speed before the accident."
Why didn't she tell him to stop speeding way before the accident ?
She may well have done. In addition if the relationship was abusive she may not have had the agency to do so, even if she already knew he wasn't fit to drive
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cbrndc replied to Captain Badger | 142 posts | 20 hours ago
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She may have done, but also may have encouraged him to drive fast. IF the relationship was abusive? Stop making up stories.
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Captain Badger replied to cbrndc | 2733 posts | 22 min ago
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cbrndc wrote:
She may have done, but also may have encouraged him to drive fast. IF the relationship was abusive? Stop making up stories.
Don't know what's rattled your cage tbh. I was putting forward possible scenarios in response to Hirsute.
Your hypothesis of course is possible, though it in no way mitigates the culpability of the driver.
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cyclistformerly... replied to hirsute | 55 posts | 2 hours ago
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hirsute wrote:
Why didn't she tell him to stop speeding way before the accident ?
he was a very violent man, had history of violence inclusing biting part of a mans ear off, involved in rioting and part of a gang from the age of 14. he had a girlfriend so the wife was probably shit scared of him
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Woldsman | 395 posts | 23 hours ago
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"George had convictions for dangerous driving in 2004 and 2010 and for drink-driving as well as for robbery in 2005."
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-d... (link is external)
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Captain Badger replied to Woldsman | 2733 posts | 22 hours ago
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Woldsman wrote:
"George had convictions for dangerous driving in 2004 and 2010 and for drink-driving as well as for robbery in 2005."
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/cowardly-d... (link is external)
And how can he have avoided a full sentence?
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Woldsman replied to Captain Badger | 395 posts | 22 hours ago
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Captain Badger wrote:
And how can he have avoided a full sentence?
I *think* it's because he pleaded guilty - after eventually admitting he had been driving - so he didn't receive the full tariff. But then I'm not aware of any case in which the full possible sentence has been given.
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Captain Badger replied to Woldsman | 2733 posts | 22 hours ago
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Woldsman wrote:
Captain Badger wrote:
And how can he have avoided a full sentence?
I *think* it's because he pleaded guilty - after eventually admitting he had been driving - so he didn't receive the full tariff. But then I'm not aware of any case in which the full possible sentence has been given.
Yes, I suppose that makes sense (relatively ...) there needs to be some incentive to fess up
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JNugent
Sep 18, 2021, 12:50:51 PM9/18/21
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allowed to ride a fairy-cycle.
Fairy-cyclists don't have to know anything about traffic law or
regulation. They don't have to have read the Highway Code and will never
be tested (or have to be tested) on it by an official examiner. They
don't have to know what any traffic signs or signals mean (the same
point about testing - or the lack of it - applies).
They don't even have to be able to *read*.
So we shouldn't read too much into "all the qualifications" and
"fully-qualified". That bar rally is very low.
Mike Collins
Sep 18, 2021, 1:02:09 PM9/18/21
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On Saturday, 18 September 2021 at 17:50:51 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> Fairy-cyclists
> Fairy-cyclists
Mr Pounder Esquire
Sep 18, 2021, 1:18:35 PM9/18/21
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Peter Keller
Sep 19, 2021, 7:02:06 AM9/19/21
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On 19/09/21 04:01, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
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> If I may?
> I would say that the word "qualified" does not apply to the riders of silly
> fairy bicycles.
> I would suggest the term "only fit to ride a silly fairy bicycle."
>
>
silently!
jockey licker
Peter Keller
Sep 19, 2021, 7:03:47 AM9/19/21
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On 19/09/21 05:18, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
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> Prick.
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The butterfly is awesome because hole interrupt frightfully?
sperm bender
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