Now shut up PhilO

[Dave - Cyclists VOR]

The idiot known as PhilO has finally worn me down.


"It is impossible for a cyclist to go over the handlebars"
Tony Raven 8.54pm. 9/12/06.

"The physics disprove the theory that a cyclist could go over the
handlebars of his bike"
Mileburner. 7.18am. 10/12/06.

"I don't need specific insurance, the policy that covers my freezer also
covers me".
Simon Weaseltemper. 10.54pm. 3/3/07.

"A cyclist cannot possibly kill a pedestrian, they lack the kinetic
energy, only motorists kill pedestrians".
Tony Raven. 7.23pm. 8/5/06.

"You can't go over the handlebars of your bike, it's just not possible".
Simon Mason. 05.13am. 4/9/06.

"I do have insurance from the CTC, but I don't really need it because
the household policy covers it - and the freezer contents.".
Simon Mason. 04.56am. 12/7/06.

Now shut up.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

[Peter Keller]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:12:43 +0000, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:

> The idiot known as PhilO has finally worn me down.
>
>
> "It is impossible for a cyclist to go over the handlebars"
> Tony Raven 8.54pm. 9/12/06.
>
> "The physics disprove the theory that a cyclist could go over the
> handlebars of his bike"
> Mileburner. 7.18am. 10/12/06.
>
> "I don't need specific insurance, the policy that covers my freezer also
> covers me".
> Simon Weaseltemper. 10.54pm. 3/3/07.
>
> "A cyclist cannot possibly kill a pedestrian, they lack the kinetic
> energy, only motorists kill pedestrians".
> Tony Raven. 7.23pm. 8/5/06.
>
> "You can't go over the handlebars of your bike, it's just not possible".
> Simon Mason. 05.13am. 4/9/06.
>
> "I do have insurance from the CTC, but I don't really need it because
> the household policy covers it - and the freezer contents.".
> Simon Mason. 04.56am. 12/7/06.
>
> Now shut up.

He is allowed to express his opinion. The same way that you are.



--
Life is a venereal disease with 100% mortality.

[Partac]

"Peter Keller" wrote in message news:kaun3v$qv3$1...@dont-email.me...

Nobody's suggesting otherwise. However, Dave has just proved that his
opinion is wrong.

[Mentalguy2k8]

"Peter Keller" <muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote in message
news:kaun3v$qv3$1...@dont-email.me...

Stating that "nobody has ever claimed such a thing" isn't expressing an
opinion.

[nik.morgan]

What is it then?
--
ennemm

[Mentalguy2k8]

"nik.morgan" <ig....@me.com> wrote in message
news:926366604377712295....@news-europe.giganews.com...

A lie.

[nik.morgan]

Still an opinion.
--
ennemm

[Peter Keller]

Dave told him to shut up. That would stop him expressing his opinion.
It has nothing to do with who is wrong.

[Peter Keller]

It is still an opinion.

[Peter Keller]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:23:58 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:

> nik.morgan wrote:
>
>>"Mentalguy2k8" <Mental...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "nik.morgan" <ig....@me.com> wrote in message

>>> news:926366604377712295.215078ig.tuck-me.com@news-

> Still trying to help:
>
> http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-fact-and-
opinion.htm#did-you-know

An opinion may or may not be a fact.

[Stanley Daniel de Liver]

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 -0000, Luke Moore
<anti-spa...@mailinator.com> wrote:

> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> [snip]

>>
>> An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>

> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?


I shall be going out shortly. for a bike ride to celebrate the new baktun
(sp?)
No virgins were harmed in the making of this post.


--
[dash dash space newline 4line sig]

Money/Life question

[Squashme]

On Dec 21, 12:35 pm, Luke Moore <anti-spam-addr...@mailinator.com>
wrote:

> Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 -0000, Luke Moore
> ><anti-spam-addr...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> >> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> >> [snip]
>
> >>> An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>
> >> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?
>
> >I shall be going out shortly. for a bike ride to celebrate the new baktun
> >(sp?)
>

> There are some who won't truly feel safe until the sun sets today over
> the pyramids in Yucatan peninsula, the heartland of the Maya.
>

The Mayans' world ended centuries ago, didn't it? If they couldn't
foresee that, what good are they?

[Partac]

"Peter Keller" wrote in message news:kb1bpd$gon$1...@dont-email.me...

It has everything to do with it. He has been proved to be wrong, so he now
has a choice,
either:
a) Stop repeating his incorrect opinion at every opportunity, and instead
take in Dave's posting to help him arrive at a correct opinion. (Yes, I know
that's extremely unlikely - after all, he is a psycholist)
If you continually repeat incorrect statements, then other people might
begin to believe them - you know how gullible psycholists are.

b) Shut up (Yes, I know that's unlikely too, for the same reason as above)

[Mentalguy2k8]

"Peter Keller" <muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote in message

news:kb1brs$gon$3...@dont-email.me...

>> Still trying to help:
>>
>> http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-fact-and-
> opinion.htm#did-you-know
>
> An opinion may or may not be a fact.

No, it's a fact until a cyclist is proved wrong, then it conveniently
becomes an opinion.

[Mentalguy2k8]

"Peter Keller" <muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote in message

news:kb1bqm$gon$2...@dont-email.me...

No, it was a categorical statement of something the poster believes (or
pretends) to be fact, which he posted to "disprove" someone else's claim.
Not the same thing. It wasn't an argument about two people believing
different things, it was person A saying that something happened, person B
saying that it didn't.

An opinion may be *formed* by the poster's belief (or malicious pretence)
that "nobody has ever posted that", but stating "that never happened" in
response to someone posting "it happened" is not stating an opinion.

[nik.morgan]

Unless posting the statement that 'it never happened' can be substantiated
as an irrefutable fact then it will remain an opinion.
--
ennemm

[Mentalguy2k8]

"nik.morgan" <ig....@me.com> wrote in message

news:1123233886377886927....@news-europe.giganews.com...

OK, have it your way, it's your funeral.

[Peter Keller]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:47:05 +0000, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:

A lie can still be an opinion.

[Peter Keller]

On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:

> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>

>>An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>

> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?

Yes.

[Peter Keller]

A fact may still be an opinion or vice versa.

[Peter Keller]

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:24:46 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:

> Peter Keller wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Keller wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>>>
>>> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?
>>
>>Yes.
>

> I see what you did there!
>
> As I like to be certain about things, I asked over in
> alt.culture.language. english whether an opinion may or not be a fact.
> This, in my opinion, was the best answer:
>
> "I think the answer is yes: an opinion may or may not be a fact, while
> its factualness/truth is not yet known or established. If its objective
> truthfulness, or not, has been established, it ceases to be an opinion
> and becomes a fact or a falsehood, respectively."
>
> So it may be more correct to assert that an opinion may not be a fact or
> it may be an unconfirmed fact. As in the instant an opinion becomes a
> confirmed fact, it ceases to be an opinion and, of course, becomes a
> fact. What do you think?

That is all good. However I take the view that an opinion is what one
believes. This, of course, may or may not be a fact.