What to eat/drink on a 25 mile bike ride?
Brown Cat
that far I ate no food along and only drank water the way and felt
utterly exhausted.
I've found that I start feeling a bit fatigued about half way through and
I've taken to eating a Turkish Delight washed down with a bottle of
Lucozade which seems to give me a noticeable boost of energy.
What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
Martin
That really is the wrong type of food to eat, and I am guilty of that
myself.
For long rides it is best to eat a mixture of complex and simple
carbohydrates. The body takes longer to break down complex carbos (e.g.
wheat, starch etc), and so they provide energy over a longer time.
If you have a quick burst of sugars, then the body tries to break it
down quickely, giving you a short burst of energy.
IMHO the best drink is a mixture of fruit juice and water, which you sip.
Martin.
Paul - xxx
For eating 'on the move' a banana or two, and my wife makes a
jam-filled shortcake biscuit 'thing'. And a couple of Mars/choccy bar
of choice.
Dilute orange/lemon/blackcurrant and water.
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James
Different people will have different definitions of long rides. I
recall eating a few jelly babies the one time I did a 50 mile time
trial, and had nothing on shorter ones. For 5h trailquests we used to
eat chunks of dried banana and sometimes bits of energy bar - the
latter can often be stuck to the top tube (unwrapped) in preparation
and grabbed on the move. For touring, assorted pastries and jam
sandwiches go down well IME. There's no problem with sugar-based food
so long as you graze rather than binge.
James
Paul Rudin
How long does the ride take you?
A couple of hours should be doable without really needing to fuel up
during the ride, although it certainly doesn't hurt to have something. I
normally put a banana and some chocolate in my back pocket if I'm going
to be riding for several hours; if I see I nice pub and the mood takes
me then beer and crisps help :)
It might help to think about what you eat before hand. A complex-carbs
rich meal a couple of hours beforehand should mean you start with
reasonably reserves; and make sure that you're not thirsty before you
start.
If you're not used to the exercise then you're probably going to feel it
whatever you eat until you're conditioned; but that'll come soon enough
if it becomes a regular part of your life.
goo...@hayward.uk.net
> > I've taken to eating a Turkish Delight washed down with a bottle of
> > Lucozade which seems to give me a noticeable boost of energy.
Yeuch!
>
> > What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
>
> How long does the ride take you?
> A couple of hours should be doable without really needing to fuel up
> during the ride
You'd have to be going pretty slow to take much more than a couple of
hours to cover 25 miles. Unless you're treating it as a scenic trip,
towing small children etc. in which case why not take a proper picnic
or stop at a pub?
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> It might help to think about what you eat before hand. A complex-carbs
> rich meal a couple of hours beforehand should mean you start with
> reasonably reserves; and make sure that you're not thirsty before you
> start.
I think that's the key. If you're leaping out of bed and riding for 2
hours without breakfast you're not doing yourself any favours. A
decent bowl of porridge and plenty of fluid before you set off should
see you right.
Paul Rudin
> You'd have to be going pretty slow to take much more than a couple of
> hours to cover 25 miles.
On the road yes, but off-road riding can be quite different in some
conditions. 25 off-road, muddy, hilly miles can be a good day's ride
sometimes.
Ace
>> > What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
>>
>> How long does the ride take you?
>> A couple of hours should be doable without really needing to fuel up
>> during the ride
>
>You'd have to be going pretty slow to take much more than a couple of
>hours to cover 25 miles.
Not everyone's super-fit (or able to be). And of course terrain
variations will make a huge difference. Right now I'm very pleased to
be able to do my 26km commute in an hour and a quarter, although I
used to do a regular 18mile journey in under an hour some years back.
I'm sure that the more I do it the faster I'll get, and hopefully may
one day regain something of my former fitness, but if it's just an
occasional leisure ride that's not likely to happen.
>> It might help to think about what you eat before hand. A complex-carbs
>> rich meal a couple of hours beforehand should mean you start with
>> reasonably reserves; and make sure that you're not thirsty before you
>> start.
>
>I think that's the key. If you're leaping out of bed and riding for 2
>hours without breakfast you're not doing yourself any favours. A
>decent bowl of porridge and plenty of fluid before you set off should
>see you right.
I couldn't do that. And in practice my body seems able to deliver
sufficient slow-release energy to keep me going all the way, although
I know I need to eat as soon as I get to the office. Eating a mixed
meal a couple of hours beforehand is the best way, but riding too soon
after eating (i.e. while you're still digesting it) is actually going
to give you less available energy.
Tosspot
Muesli bars and lucozade diluted 50:50 with mineral water. Works
every time. The main thing I find is to drink little and *often*,
clearing about a litre of said mix for 25 miles.
Getting dehydrated has a big downer on a) how you feel, and b) how you
perform.
Just my tuppence worth.
Keith T
> Brown Cat wrote:
>
>> I've started doing a weekly 25 mile bike ride. The first time I went
>> that far I ate no food along and only drank water the way and felt
>> utterly exhausted.
>>
>> I've found that I start feeling a bit fatigued about half way through
>> and I've taken to eating a Turkish Delight washed down with a bottle
>> of Lucozade which seems to give me a noticeable boost of energy.
>>
>> What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
>
> For eating 'on the move' a banana or two, and my wife makes a
> jam-filled shortcake biscuit 'thing'. And a couple of Mars/choccy bar
> of choice.
>
> Dilute orange/lemon/blackcurrant and water.
>
Base layer
Not sure if it works with cycling but before a days walking a bowl of
porridge keeps me fuelled for a lot longer. (When out with a bunck of
kids on a walk it's easy to tell which has had cereal and sugar and
which has had porridge. By mid-morning the sugar addicrs have slowed and
are asking when lunch is. The others are asking why the first lot are so
slow.)
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Tom Anderson
Two plain bagels and a mincemeat slice, all from my local bakery. Plus 1.6
litres of very weak lemon drink. That usually does me for a 45 mile trip,
although i'm hungry at the end.
tom
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Tom Anderson
> Brown Cat wrote:
>
>> I've started doing a weekly 25 mile bike ride. The first time I went
>> that far I ate no food along and only drank water the way and felt
>> utterly exhausted.
>>
>> I've found that I start feeling a bit fatigued about half way through
>> and I've taken to eating a Turkish Delight washed down with a bottle
>> of Lucozade which seems to give me a noticeable boost of energy.
>>
>> What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
>
> For eating 'on the move' a banana or two, and my wife makes a
> jam-filled shortcake biscuit 'thing'.
Your wife's ideas are intriguing to me and i wish to subscribe to her
newsletter.
tom
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Henry Lockwood
Each time I do a longish ride (by which I mean 40-50 miles, so a
pleasant trundle for some and to the moon and back for others), I
stoke up before starting. About 2-3 hours before the ride's start, I
eat a large plate of wholemeal pasta liberally sprinkled with grated
cheese. The balance of slow(ish) release carbohydrates, fat, and
protein tends to give me enough to keep going. I carry a banana or
two in case I start flagging, and plenty of water. Salted peanuts or
similar are a good thing to have in reserve.
The reason for eating well in advance is that I don't like moving on a
full stomach!
HenryL
spindrift
Sir Alan's energy booster
INGREDIENTS
2 bananas
Punnet of blueberries
Half cup of orange juice
Half cup of cranberry juice
1/8 teaspoon of salt
Liquidise ingredients.
Make sure you drink a quarter of it every 15 miles - particularly
important in hot climates, such as Florida, southern France or Spain.
Acknowledged product disadvantage: you will need to stop cycling as
the energising gloop can't be drunk through flask spouts. You have to
remove the lid.
Ben C
Bananas, Soreen malt loaf or cereal bars (Soreen make a nice one that is
dipped in the same coal tar they make the malt loaves out of).
But you will soon get used to the 25 miles and won't need to eat
anything on the ride.
For a ride twice that distance I would bring two bananas. YMMV.
Marz
For 25 miles, I just drink water as it's flat around here and 25 miles
is about an hour and 15mins for me. I usually don't eat anything on
rides less than 2 hours, but I'll carry a clif bar or 2 just incase I
need them. On longer rides, 2 to 6 hours I eat continuously and I'm a
clif bar junkie. So for a 4 hour ride I'll carry 6 clif bars, eating
the first 1 hour into the ride and then 1 every 30 mins or so another
one until I get home. I try to maintain a 20mph average, I don't stop
on rides and I found I need to eat lots to keep the speed up.
David Damerell
>I've started doing a weekly 25 mile bike ride. The first time I went
>that far I ate no food along and only drank water the way and felt
>utterly exhausted.
As you do that sort of distance more, you'll get accustomed to it. I
wouldn't really expect to need to eat anything during a 40km ride. But -
bananas, malt loaf, fig newtons... ?
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>What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
Carbs for breakfast, muesli bars en route. A long ride for me is
anything over 50 miles without a lunch stop or 20-ish miles on a
really hot or really cold day.
And plenty of water.
Guy
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<guy.c...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>A long ride for me is
>anything over 50 miles without a lunch stop or 20-ish miles on a
>really hot or really cold day.
Thinking about it, this is not quite right. I need a muesli bar or
two to make St Albans to Reading in under two hours, and that's only
40 miles non-stop. But 20 miles is not nutrition territory, at least
for me.
Judith M Smith
<marzje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 6:10�pm, Brown Cat <br...@eye.invalid> wrote:
>> I've started doing a weekly 25 mile bike ride. �The first time I went
>> that far I ate no food along and only drank water the way and felt
>> utterly exhausted.
>>
>> I've found that I start feeling a bit fatigued about half way through and
>> I've taken to eating a Turkish Delight washed down with a bottle of
>> Lucozade which seems to give me a noticeable boost of energy.
>>
>> What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
>
>For 25 miles, I just drink water as it's flat around here
I live in Buxton - it is quite fizzy.
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Rob Morley
Martin <marti...@virgin.net> wrote:
> That really is the wrong type of food to eat, and I am guilty of that
> myself.
> For long rides it is best to eat a mixture of complex and simple
> carbohydrates. The body takes longer to break down complex carbos
> (e.g. wheat, starch etc), and so they provide energy over a longer
> time. If you have a quick burst of sugars, then the body tries to
> break it down quickely, giving you a short burst of energy.
>
Actually the sugary crap tends to produce such a rapid rise in
blood sugar that the body releases too much insulin, and you end up
with lower blood sugar than you had to start with.
James
I would be surprised if that was the case for moderate grazing during
exercise. Anyone know about any relevant studies?
James
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Bob
A bottle of High5 Energy Source, or if I've eaten in the not too distant
past, just a bottle of water. If you're worried, then get yourself a few
High5 Energy Gels just incase you feel the need to top up while you're out.
Cheers,
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Martin
There was a book a bought about ten years ago about dieting, which went
into really good detail about this. Eating sugary foods will (as Rob
says) produce a lot of insulin to battle the blood high sugar level,
which will lead to a low blood sugar level, at which point you will get
hungry, and take another does of sugary food. It is one of the worst
things for putting on weight.
When I commute to work, I normally do it on an empty stomach, however I
find it a lot harder work for the last four miles or so if I have some
sweets or a sugar drink before I leave. This effect is quite notable.
Martin.
Mike
It depends what you mean by moderate, match kJ and fluid consumption
with kJ and fluid expended and you end up with near identical body
chemistry after the event. In the short term consumption of fast carbs
(simple sugars) can lead to a significant dip in blood sugar followed
by drowsiness and fatigue.
>Anyone know about any relevant studies?
There are hundreds of them, mostly related to glucose intolerance.
Most of the sugar you need during a '25 mile bike ride' can be
obtained from liver reserves, and the key to that is carbohydrate
loading in the period well before exercise and weak sugar and salt
solutions during exercise aka overpriced isotonics, but you can make
your own for next to nothing. Sugary drinks, especially anything
approaching pure glucose like lucozade are a waste of money for all
practical purposes during a ride of this length or indeed of any
length.
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Ben C
> James wrote:
>> On May 28, 12:16 pm, Rob Morley <nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:51:23 +0100
>>>
>>> Martin <martin.d...@virgin.net> wrote:
>>>> That really is the wrong type of food to eat, and I am guilty of that
>>>> myself.
>>>> For long rides it is best to eat a mixture of complex and simple
>>>> carbohydrates. The body takes longer to break down complex carbos
>>>> (e.g. wheat, starch etc), and so they provide energy over a longer
>>>> time. If you have a quick burst of sugars, then the body tries to
>>>> break it down quickely, giving you a short burst of energy.
>>> Actually the sugary crap tends to produce such a rapid rise in
>>> blood sugar that the body releases too much insulin, and you end up
>>> with lower blood sugar than you had to start with.
>>
>> I would be surprised if that was the case for moderate grazing during
>> exercise. Anyone know about any relevant studies?
>
> There was a book a bought about ten years ago about dieting, which went
> into really good detail about this. Eating sugary foods will (as Rob
> says) produce a lot of insulin to battle the blood high sugar level,
> which will lead to a low blood sugar level, at which point you will get
> hungry, and take another does of sugary food. It is one of the worst
> things for putting on weight.
But doesn't that only apply if you're sitting around watching TV? The
dynamics of the situation are different if you're riding a bike.
> When I commute to work, I normally do it on an empty stomach
This may result in your body digesting itself, starting with the
muscles, moving on to the brain stem, and finally a bit of fat from
around your middle if it's still hungry.
nm...@cam.ac.uk
Which planet of Arcturus did you say you were from?
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
tricia...@gmail.com
> I've started doing a weekly 25 mile bike ride. The first time I went
> that far I ate no food along and only drank water the way and felt
> utterly exhausted.
>
> I've found that I start feeling a bit fatigued about half way through and
> I've taken to eating a Turkish Delight washed down with a bottle of
> Lucozade which seems to give me a noticeable boost of energy.
>
> What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
Rob Morley
tricia...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 4:10:41 PM UTC-7, Brown Cat wrote:
> > I've started doing a weekly 25 mile bike ride. The first time I
> > went that far I ate no food along and only drank water the way and
> > felt utterly exhausted.
> >
> > I've found that I start feeling a bit fatigued about half way
> > through and I've taken to eating a Turkish Delight washed down with
> > a bottle of Lucozade which seems to give me a noticeable boost of
> > energy.
in energy levels later. Complex carbs don't give such an immediate hit
but you don't pay the price later.
> > What does everyone else do to keep their energy up on long rides?
>
> Bananas. Controls your (ahem)digestive issues, energy boost, makes
> me feel full.
Nige Danton
> Bananas. Controls your (ahem)digestive issues, energy boost, makes me feel full.
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Nick
just before I start and a banana half way.
I also like to drink fresh orange juice mixed 50/50 with water. Not sure
if it is good for energy but it tastes good.
Rob Morley
Nick <Nick...@Yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I also like to drink fresh orange juice mixed 50/50 with water. Not
> sure if it is good for energy but it tastes good.
those little pork and pickle pies. :-)